Whats the point in using DCD and all this mess instead of the offical sprint released stuff?
I used the DCD stuff with these versions:
ROM Version: dcd 3.0.4
Rom date: 2/22/08
Radio version: 3.37.20
and now I've updated to this newest stuff and I see 0 differences. Where the heck is the full change log (not the per version one)? I couldn't get youtube to work on my phone before, and I still cant get it to work now. When the hell is someone going to fix that?
I remember a long time ago I look and look, AND LOOKED for a work around, and tried several things with 0 luck.
My main reason for upgrading all this in my phone tonight was so that I could be able to record all my phone conversations and any software I've tried Resco audio recorder, and this weird SPWM5Callrec.cab program all give me the error that it cannot start recording while I'm in a phone call. Does anyone have a fix or work around for this too?
Thanks guys.
P.S. Its on a HTC Mogul.
3.0.4 came out months ago. try updating to 3.3.4 and see if you come across any differences in dcd's latest and the stock rom. i guarantee you will never go back to stock.
edit: i also recommend updating to the 3.42.50 radio. much better reception, and i havent gotten a dropped call since i updated. (although i rarely got them before. ohh verizon...)
also: recording calls without the opposing party's consent is illegal. there are programs which supposedly do it fine, but i can't see how recording calls is your main reason for updating your rom anyway.
ElementalWindX said:
Whats the point in using DCD and all this mess instead of the offical sprint released stuff?
I used the DCD stuff with these versions:
ROM Version: dcd 3.0.4
Rom date: 2/22/08
Radio version: 3.37.20
and now I've updated to this newest stuff and I see 0 differences. Where the heck is the full change log (not the per version one)? I couldn't get youtube to work on my phone before, and I still cant get it to work now. When the hell is someone going to fix that?
I remember a long time ago I look and look, AND LOOKED for a work around, and tried several things with 0 luck.
My main reason for upgrading all this in my phone tonight was so that I could be able to record all my phone conversations and any software I've tried Resco audio recorder, and this weird SPWM5Callrec.cab program all give me the error that it cannot start recording while I'm in a phone call. Does anyone have a fix or work around for this too?
Thanks guys.
P.S. Its on a HTC Mogul.
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Did you PAY for DCD's release? If not, then be MORE considerate, he's releasing ROM's because he can, not because it's his job....
Its pretty straight forward
Install DCD 3.3.4
You gain memory, speed, GPS abilities, etc.
You haven't been reading if you simply think there are no differences.
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3.0.4 came out months ago. try updating to 3.3.4 and see if you come across any differences in dcd's latest and the stock rom. i guarantee you will never go back to stock.
edit: i also recommend updating to the 3.42.50 radio. much better reception, and i havent gotten a dropped call since i updated. (although i rarely got them before. ohh verizon...)
also: recording calls without the opposing party's consent is illegal. there are programs which supposedly do it fine, but i can't see how recording calls is your main reason for updating your rom anyway.
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I know all about the legality of recording calls. Thats beaten to death and back. I still prefer to do it.
I know its free. I'm not disrespecting the guy for making it.
You guys still didnt answer the questions about recordings and youtube.
Also is there a executable for the new radio rom? I have hell trying to get my sd card to work to do this. I dont have 100% the proper equipment to do it, but I can still do it this way, it just takes me alot longer and is alot more tedious and annoying.
Also does the sprint provided one not come with GPS enabled? I haven't reinstalled google maps just yet to find out.
If it's beaten to death, you would know that the hardware in the mogul is not capable of recording calls.
what I use for Youtube
Try these cabs.
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Try these cabs.
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I see no cabs? Rename the .zip to a .cab?
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If it's beaten to death, you would know that the hardware in the mogul is not capable of recording calls.
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Thank you for showing me the similarities between legality and hardware It's almost as if black = white now. Yes yes, I see it now.
In case you didnt understand I ment the legality issue of recording phone calls has been beaten to death across every google result I've found.
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also: recording calls without the opposing party's consent is illegal. there are programs which supposedly do it fine, but i can't see how recording calls is your main reason for updating your rom anyway.
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Depends on your local laws. The state laws where I'm at allows you to record phone calls as long as one person knows about it. Which is of course you who is recording the conversation. Trust me...been down that road and had to use a couple in court before.
Pardon me, if I may
ElementalWindX said:
Thank you for showing me the similarities between legality and hardware It's almost as if black = white now. Yes yes, I see it now.
In case you didnt understand I ment the legality issue of recording phone calls has been beaten to death across every google result I've found.
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Why do I sense arrogance in you. I mean, isn't there any other way to ask your question or make a point without it sounding like that? DCD does great work, and true enough you nee to try his ROMs before you comment on no difference. I have used all his ROMs and each time there is a remarkable difference, GPS Speed, good audio, nice reception.
Youtube: If you search the forum, there are many ways to get youtube, I would suggest you tell us what type of youtube app you are trying to use because there are just so many.
As for recording calls, there are apps out there that can do this. JUst google it, and you will have more than enough to try. If there are errors, don't blame the ROM. DCD ROMS are more functional and bring less stress to the RAM than the bloated Sprint ROM.
unzip
ElementalWindX said:
I see no cabs? Rename the .zip to a .cab?
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unzip the zip file.
You guys still didnt answer the questions about recordings and youtube.
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It's not the jobs of the people on this forum to solve your problems for you. If they do, great, but you shouldn't be using an attitude that makes it seem like you think everyone on here is being paid to solve problems for you. Maybe you didn't mean this line to come across as rude but it sure seems very rude to me.
The Flash Video Bundle with TCPMP that was posted works very well for YouTube.
You could also try this cab:
http://drop.io/YouTube_M2D
Also is there a executable for the new radio rom? I have hell trying to get my sd card to work to do this. I dont have 100% the proper equipment to do it, but I can still do it this way, it just takes me alot longer and is alot more tedious and annoying.
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You only need an SD card... nothing else. If you have an SD card you have 100% of the proper equipment. Everything can be done directly on the phone without even having a computer. You might need software to extract a .zip or .rar file at the most although it seems you're not familiar with compressed archives (zip files) so flashing your phone might be a little advanced for you. If your SD card doesn't work very well for flashing, buy a new one. They are extremely cheap for the low capacity ones which is what you need for flashing anyway.
You claim not to mean any disrespect for DCD's ROM but then you're whining about how you think there's no point to using it and why hasn't someone fixed some problem you were having when they have... I think a better attitude might make people more willing to help you.
Well put unL33T,
I would have just called this guy a douche bag and written a note-to-self to ignore all future posts by ElementalWindX, as so far every one of his 4 posts in this thread is dripping with jackassery.
I have a feeling that either method will be just as ineffective.
ElementalWindX said:
Where the heck is the full change log (not the per version one)? I couldn't get youtube to work on my phone before, and I still cant get it to work now. When the hell is someone going to fix that?
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You do realize that many of the amazing people who develop software and ROMs for your phone do it free of charge as a hobby, right?
If you want a change log with the entire history, I recommend you go into the threads and do a lot of copy and pasting. I'm sure there are a few other people who would be appreciative if you took the effort to help out with that instead of just crying that nobody else has. Sound fair? You take, you give.
And similarly with youtube, why don't you go to hell and fix it yourself?
ElementalWindX said:
Whats the point in using DCD and all this mess instead of the offical sprint released stuff?
I used the DCD stuff with these versions:
ROM Version: dcd 3.0.4
Rom date: 2/22/08
Radio version: 3.37.20
and now I've updated to this newest stuff and I see 0 differences. Where the heck is the full change log (not the per version one)? I couldn't get youtube to work on my phone before, and I still cant get it to work now. When the hell is someone going to fix that?
I remember a long time ago I look and look, AND LOOKED for a work around, and tried several things with 0 luck.
My main reason for upgrading all this in my phone tonight was so that I could be able to record all my phone conversations and any software I've tried Resco audio recorder, and this weird SPWM5Callrec.cab program all give me the error that it cannot start recording while I'm in a phone call. Does anyone have a fix or work around for this too?
Thanks guys.
P.S. Its on a HTC Mogul.
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If you press the X-Button in the top right hand corner of this browser window it should solve all your issues.
As people have already said... We develop for free. I have a ROM, DCD does, etc... I spend countless HOURS if not DAYS ON END working on this for very little in return. I do appreciate the people that have donated but lets face in reality we do this sort of thing for free. Sooo with that being said....
If you donate a very large sum of money to me I will solve ALL your phone needs. I'm waiting for the money... Let me know when its there.
Ok, I'm still waiting, why haven't you sent it yet?
Pretty ridiculous? Yes! Just like your rants about DCD's ROM.
Also, when you get a chance can you post some of your work. Seems you are here only to get what you can and not contribute back.
Thanks for whatever it is this post was SUPPOSED to bring!
Don't get caught up in arguing with this idiot. He is just trying to get a rise out of you. He cannot possibly be as stupid as he sounds. Must be an act to try and lure us in.....
Your first post wasn't completely clear. I've read it a couple times and it seemed you had a couple things to be addressed:
ElementalWindX said:
Whats the point in using DCD and all this mess instead of the offical sprint released stuff?
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We install these ROMS because we don't like the Sprint ROM. I can't make that anymore simple. Many/Most of us try to "break" the custom roms (like DCDs) or find the bugs in them so the programmer can refine the product. Many others are here to try something new to get better performance from their phone-- again, because they don't like the Sprint ROM.
..and now I've updated to this newest stuff and I see 0 differences.
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Most of the difference you dont "see" you experience. More RAM is available, the phone runs quicker and more stable. Those are the main differences you can "see" or notice.
I couldn't get youtube to work on my phone before, and I still cant get it to work now. When the hell is someone going to fix that?
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Youtube is not something that will get fixed through a ROM. It is something that needs to be supported through software. Hence, youtubeplay, the HTC you tube application, and flash integrated web browsers.
I can't comment on the phone call recording software. I don't know anything about apps like that.
I don't see any point to this thread, if you have a question about a rom, ask it in the thread dedicated to that rom.
Also, watch the language. If you are an offending party, know that foul language is a violation of the rules here at XDA and can lead to your being banned. Remember, be respectful at all times, and if you can't do that, then don't post at all.
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There is a reason it's not out yet, it's not even close to being released yet. There are problems that are being worked on in the ROM update. I can tell you that you probably won't see an update officialy released until maybe the end of march. How do I know this you ask? I am an engineer with sprint. I myself have the Mogul and am frustrated with the lack of GPS etc.
There's no lack of GPS anymore But there is a lack of being able to send pictures!
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If your an engineer with Sprint...tell us what the holdup is.
I'd love to know what can be so baffleing to the entire company that months and months of work can't figure out.
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There is a reason it's not out yet, it's not even close to being released yet. There are problems that are being worked on in the ROM update. I can tell you that you probably won't see an update officialy released until maybe the end of march. How do I know this you ask? I am an engineer with sprint. I myself have the Mogul and am frustrated with the lack of GPS etc.
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so you work for sprint... and yet we have the gps update and you dont... hmm...
lucy, you got some splainin to do
LOL...............
chubzilla said:
There is a reason it's not out yet, it's not even close to being released yet. There are problems that are being worked on in the ROM update. I can tell you that you probably won't see an update officialy released until maybe the end of march. How do I know this you ask? I am an engineer with sprint. I myself have the Mogul and am frustrated with the lack of GPS etc.
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If you're an actual engineer with Sprint, maybe you could tell us what we will be expecting from this new ROM, besides Rev A and GPS. Are the rumors running around here true about:
Windows 6.1
Sprint TV
etc.
Please enlighten us.......... It's driving us INSANE!
So, come on...level with us Chubz.
You're running DCD 2.x.x too, aren't you?!?!?
bavsav said:
So, come on...level with us Chubz.
You're running DCD 2.x.x too, aren't you?!?!?
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I'm thinking about moving to DCD's WM6.1 ROM because I'm so tired of waiting for the official release. The only thing stopping me is the SD card not working yet for it.
gimme a break this dude comes in here and spews out some garble about how hes an engineer COUGH COUGH he dont even know about the gps that WE all have already. Dude go somewhere else and play, none of us in here fell off the potato truck last knight. in fact I think i hear your mom calling you.
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I'm thinking about moving to DCD's WM6.1 ROM because I'm so tired of waiting for the official release. The only thing stopping me is the SD card not working yet for it.
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If the mem card problem is stopping you then use no2chems, he had some issues with the mem card in an earlier build but the new one works just fine
fallingup said:
so you work for sprint... and yet we have the gps update and you dont... hmm...
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you have the gps update from a "leaked" or cooked ROM
Anyway the reason for the holdup is that they need it to run stable. Obvioudly it will run the new apps fine, but then the speaker might not work etc...
the official rom will obviously have:
GPS
Sprint TV
6.1
and supposedly a better task manager. Also help out the memory leak problem.
REV A
The sprint touch may get the GPS and REV A update first
It's nice to see Sprint being so concerned and cautious with their update. But then again, you work for Sprint, so shouldn't your statement be, "...we need it to run stable..." ?
Anyway, in the immortal words of Wayne, "Yeah... right... and monkeys might fly out my butt!"
slvrap1 said:
If the mem card problem is stopping you then use no2chems, he had some issues with the mem card in an earlier build but the new one works just fine
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i think DCDs 2.2.6 fixed the SD card issue, although my understanding it was only a problem if you used encryption (my SD card worked on all dcd roms)
chubzilla said:
the official rom will obviously have:
GPS
Sprint TV
6.1
and supposedly a better task manager. Also help out the memory leak problem.
REV A
The sprint touch may get the GPS and REV A update first
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"I'll believe that when my s*&t turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert!"
Honestly, we know how this will go.. you claim it'll have SprintTv, then when it doesn't come out with Sprint TV, then one of 2 things will happen...
1) You don't reply to questions directed toward you because you're full of bologna
2) You do reply, and give us some bologna about how Sprint decided to not include it for some oddball reason.
If Sprint TV really does get put on a ROM in the future, then i'll give you respect, but until it happens, you can't just come into a community spouting off fiction hoping that people will think you're cool.. Honestly. Like i said, if you are who you say you are, then you'll get respect when what you say happens!
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you have the gps update from a "leaked" or cooked ROM
Anyway the reason for the holdup is that they need it to run stable. Obvioudly it will run the new apps fine, but then the speaker might not work etc...
the official rom will obviously have:
GPS
Sprint TV
6.1
and supposedly a better task manager. Also help out the memory leak problem.
REV A
The sprint touch may get the GPS and REV A update first
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I thought the Touch didnt have the GPS antenna? Or is it just Wi-Fi?
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i think DCDs 2.2.6 fixed the SD card issue, although my understanding it was only a problem if you used encryption (my SD card worked on all dcd roms)
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I can also confirm that I had no problems with DCD's ROM...
Back on topic, since all the good quotes have been taken, I'll believe this when I see it. I mean, it would be nice, but the day the OEM's give us a good ROM (that can't be made better by the likes of DCD, No2Chem, etc) is the day I stop using all devices and move to a cabin in the mountains without power...
The Touch may get updated first? I'm beginning to wonder if the next official Mogul update comes pre-installed in a Mogul 2.
First post here (from my Mogul) but long time lurker. Just running 2.17 but I'm tempted to install a dcd. My main concern is the radio stability as I like to stream alot of audio.
chubzilla, you had to know when you posted who you were, you would take alot of shots from people on this site. There are alot of angry people here that have been waiting for sprint and HTC to get off there butts and fix the problems with the mogul.
I guess what I would like to see is an official response from sprint about the status of the ROM Update other than "Additionally, HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008."
Outdated information like this just inflames customers.
just my 2 pennies
HI guys, I'm an engineer in TF2. Someone is zappin my sentury.
Ok so here is a quick question for you. I got my new device and whats better to flash on it? DCD or the new VZW release? Let me know and I will do it?
DCD is way ahead of the curb to any software release from any company, with his software it pays in spades what you originally got from the phone out of the box. GPS, PAN, DUN, sting SMS, faster better use of CPU and RAM the list is endless. hands down DCD's ROM is the industry standard.
the added value to the phone is nothing short of outstanding.
no question. dcd.
There is absolutely no way you can dobetter than DCD's Roms.
JukEboXAuDiO said:
Ok so here is a quick question for you. I got my new device and whats better to flash on it? DCD or the new VZW release? Let me know and I will do it?
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Oh boy, don't get me started. Read my rants in the thread I started about the official release. The only think worse you could do to your phone other than putting the VZW release on it is running it over with your car after pulling it out of the back of a dump truck thats filled with molten lava, uranium, and fast flying neutrino radiation. I would rather try conjuring the spirits of my dead grand mother in hopes that she could build a better ROM than this crappy, late to the game, outdated months before it came out, non supported, lacking GPS , bullsh*t ass VZW ROM.
I guess what I am trying to say is I would go with DCD's ROM ;c)
DISCLAIMER: Before anyone gets offended, this is solely my opinion (granted taken to an extreme!). Thank you for taking the time to view.
what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
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what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
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Hey, that is a good point I didn't think about. We can use this to flash if we hose our phones.
lafester said:
what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
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LOL
Why do people continue to insist that the phone GPS is all that and a side of fries?
Has it ever occurred to you that some people dont give a rat's behind about GPS functionality on their phone? Guess what, I dont - I have a dedicated autonomous GPS which blows the crap out of anything you will get on your 6800's "gps" function.
Its not all about GPS you know - imagine that? There is a universe where things other than GPS is important
I've also tried a few of dcd's roms - great stuff - no doubt about it. But for the apps I run, the stock ROM seems to be better - blows your mind, I know.
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I have a dedicated autonomous GPS which blows the crap out of anything you will get on your 6800's "gps" function.
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What will your gps do that my Titan won't?
I would like to know what apps run better on the stock ROM. Seriously... I want to know.
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What will your gps do that my Titan won't?
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Are you kidding me? Do you even own a dedicated GPS unit like a Garmin or Magellan?
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I would like to know what apps run better on the stock ROM. Seriously... I want to know.
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I have a number of dedicated business and medical applications that run better with the stock rom than a few custom roms I've tried. For what/how I use my 6800 for, stock edges out custom roms.
If you use your 6800 like a toy, than its possible that a dcd or similar rom offers benefits. But for my purposes, the custom roms werent cutting.
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Are you kidding me? Do you even own a dedicated GPS unit like a Garmin or Magellan?
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No, but I run Garmin and TomTom on my Titan, so what can yours do that mine can't? Anything?
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No, but I run Garmin and TomTom on my Titan, so what can yours do that mine can't? Anything?
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
Well, I asked. I have never ran one of those programs so I have no idea how they compare to stock/DCD roms.
I use my device like a "toy" as much as I use it for e-mail, Excel editing and other business type applications.
Thanks for educating us.
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
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I usually refrain from posting, but err wha? This confusingly senseless posts seems to have dragged me out of my cave...
Is FM not only used as a very low cost alternative to using Cell Phone Data Networks? It is the same network built out by MS to support their MSN Direct Watches that they are now leasing to services like Garmin for GPS Traffic... Since the tech you mentioned is simply there to give the "real" GPS device access to data, how is it any "better"?
Do they release updates to their non-PDA GPS setups faster? Otherwise, it should be the same (provided the cell phone has data coverage)...
Unless Garmin doesn't provide real time traffic at all on their PDA stuff?
I too am curious on the apps though... As DCD 3.2.6 is the fastest ROM I've ever touched on my Mogul (not saying much since I've only owned it 1.5 months and have only ran Stock + Stock latest + DCD 3.2.5 and 3.2.6). It runs everything faster and just "better".
I don't use my PDA as a "toy" so I'd recommend you not lump anyone who doesn't do exactly what you do into the kid with a toy category.
Depending on your applications needs you might be better off using the kitchen for DCD roms to be sure the stuff you need is included.
I had to add the Enterprise option to my ROM so it would sync with my exchange server (as my phone has to be able to enforce my corporate exchange policies).
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I usually refrain from posting, but err wha? This confusingly senseless posts seems to have dragged me out of my cave...
Is FM not only used as a very low cost alternative to using Cell Phone Data Networks? It is the same network built out by MS to support their MSN Direct Watches that they are now leasing to services like Garmin for GPS Traffic... Since the tech you mentioned is simply there to give the "real" GPS device access to data, how is it any "better"?
Do they release updates to their non-PDA GPS setups faster? Otherwise, it should be the same (provided the cell phone has data coverage)...
Unless Garmin doesn't provide real time traffic at all on their PDA stuff?...
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Its only a pointless post if you didnt go back far enough in the thread to see where someone was asking me about something specific.
Either the 6800 is capable of receiving live traffic updates or its not - it obviously cant get RDS so we know its not getting updates there. Can it get it over another network?
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I too am curious on the apps though... As DCD 3.2.6 is the fastest ROM I've ever touched on my Mogul (not saying much since I've only owned it 1.5 months and have only ran Stock + Stock latest + DCD 3.2.5 and 3.2.6). It runs everything faster and just "better".
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Sorry but I tried 3.2.5 and 3.2.6 and found the stock rom to be faster
I love how people try to tell me that the custom rom is faster and that I must be mistaken - arguing with someone over their experience with anything is completely pointless. If in your use dcd's rom was faster, then great - in my experience it was not and hence I went back to the stock rom (unhappily since at that time I had to give up RevA)
I don't use my PDA as a "toy" so I'd recommend you not lump anyone who doesn't do exactly what you do into the kid with a toy category.
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Point well taken - my apologies
Depending on your applications needs you might be better off using the kitchen for DCD roms to be sure the stuff you need is included.
I had to add the Enterprise option to my ROM so it would sync with my exchange server (as my phone has to be able to enforce my corporate exchange policies).
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EXACTLY! Thats what I've been saying all along - depending on your needs, the stock rom will be fine or you may need to go with a custom rom
Now we are back on topic
My TomTom software pulls real-time traffic. Live Search can even pull the traffic in real time..provided you have a data connection.
That is the real difference, not that it cannot get the traffic but the method it does and if it costs anything. I got the unlimited data so it is a non-issue to me, but with a limited data plan a dedicated GPS will win out based on that function alone.
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I have a number of dedicated business and medical applications that run better with the stock rom than a few custom roms I've tried. For what/how I use my 6800 for, stock edges out custom roms.
If you use your 6800 like a toy, than its possible that a dcd or similar rom offers benefits. But for my purposes, the custom roms werent cutting.
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What medical app runs better on a stock ROM than on a dcd ROM? Please name any specific app? Lexi-...? PocketMed? Harrison's? Even Epocrates?
If you're going to make this claim publicly, back it up with ANY specific app you've used which runs better on stock in your opinion so others can weigh in or test your claims. That's only fair when you're slandering dcd ROM's as better for "play" than "work." If you have "a number of..... apps that run better with the stock rom" surely you can name at least one, but I notice you don't.
I say, put up or shut up.
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
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Then why waste your time posting here then? If stock if great for you then why waste your time on a forum for making custom ROMs? I think the GPS in the Titan is just as good as any hand held. TomTom, Live Search, Google Maps and others all can receive realtime traffic through the standard data network. Also TomTom devices are Windows CE embedded devices and use bluetooth connection to a data phone for the real time traffic and other services. So for me having one unit that I can carry to do GPS, email (work and personal), Geocaching, Bible, and internet search is invaluable. Since VZW seems to want to charge for using the GPS then we have DCD. If you don't care about the internal GPS then be happy with the stock ROMs. Better or faster is a matter of opinion that is true, but if I don't have to deal with all the bloatware that comes with the stock ROM the less that will take up precious memory. For me DCD/GC has made my phone a tool that enables me to work outside of my office, it is definitely not a toy.
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Its only a pointless post if you didnt go back far enough in the thread to see where someone was asking me about something specific.
Either the 6800 is capable of receiving live traffic updates or its not - it obviously cant get RDS so we know its not getting updates there. Can it get it over another network?
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I've read every page of this thread prior to posting. I read far more than I post by a long shot. I rarely post without listening (reading) first.
I posted because FM RDS is simply a data connection. Nothing more, Nothing less. With that in mind it would mean as long as the 6800 has a data connection it should show the same exact traffic information as a standalone "real" GPS device, unless either real-time traffic isn't a provided feature or the traffic provider prioritizes one device class over another.
Sorry but I tried 3.2.5 and 3.2.6 and found the stock rom to be faster
I love how people try to tell me that the custom rom is faster and that I must be mistaken - arguing with someone over their experience with anything is completely pointless. If in your use dcd's rom was faster, then great - in my experience it was not and hence I went back to the stock rom (unhappily since at that time I had to give up RevA)
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I wasn't slamming you as being inaccurate in your usage findings. There are far too many variations of this device to be absolutely certain they don't have more than just cosmetic differences. I was just adding to the thread collective my experience of DCD being a LOT faster than stock. As I also pointed out, my experience with the Mogul doesn't run that long. I just recently moved to it from my HTC Wizard.
Although it does help if you cite specifics. Such as "App XYZ runs faster" or whatnot so someone else using it can chime in and agree or what not. Unless you wrote the app for yourself you can't assume none of us run it
Ok so anything I need to know? Besides backing up contacts/calendar, do I have to call Verizon or was this only for custom roms? Anything else before I go it would be helpful. Any mistakes or tricks you found out while updating too. Thanks. I am really scared (even with this offical rom).
edit: I MIGHT update. Still having doubts.
1) Install Update
2) Dial *228 select option 2
That was it. Just finished restoring my backup and installing my favorite apps seems to work just fine
wow.. you guys are actually using the VZW ROm.. after they Locked out third party GPS and Rev A is still ****ty?
You're better off using the custom ROMs that are out there.. they are more stable anyway..
look at all of these people regretting it after they updated and the hell they have to go through just to get gps back..
GC14's solution to get GPS Back:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421143
PPCkitchen team's alternative solution.. Safer way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421275
good luck
I don't use GPS, I prefer other devices, and I don't use it for data, the only things I care about are if it makes calls and if the WiFi and bluetooth work correctly. Not everyone has the same priority for a phone.
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wow.. you guys are actually using the VZW ROm.. after they Locked out third party GPS and Rev A is still ****ty?
You're better off using the custom ROMs that are out there.. they are more stable anyway..
look at all of these people regretting it after they updated and the hell they have to go through just to get gps back..
GC14's solution to get GPS Back:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421143
PPCkitchen team's alternative solution.. Safer way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421275
good luck
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What are you talking about? RevA was working perfectly for me with the MR1 update - I was getting speeds right where I should have been getting them.
And like the person above stated, not everyone's priority is on gps
I cannot do a full back up with Active Sync anymore? I guess the older versions allow me to do it.
I am just picking the official rom since there is less steps and less margin of error. But really I haven't decided on what to do just yet. I do have my own seperate Garmin nuvi I use.
Can you see what speeds your getting with Rev. A? Also why didn't you have to call Verizon. Is it not a complete wipeout like a hard reset? Thanks in advance!
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I cannot do a full back up with Active Sync anymore? I guess the older versions allow me to do it.
I am just picking the official rom since there is less steps and less margin of error. But really I haven't decided on what to do just yet. I do have my own seperate Garmin nuvi I use.
Can you see what speeds your getting with Rev. A? Also why didn't you have to call Verizon. Is it not a complete wipeout like a hard reset? Thanks in advance!
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When I upgraded from stock rom to the mr1 update, it did not wipe out the a-key or dmu settings, nor should it.
As for RevA speeds - I was consistently getting between 600-800kbps
b16daddy said:
wow.. you guys are actually using the VZW ROm.. after they Locked out third party GPS and Rev A is still ****ty?
You're better off using the custom ROMs that are out there.. they are more stable anyway..
look at all of these people regretting it after they updated and the hell they have to go through just to get gps back..
GC14's solution to get GPS Back:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421143
PPCkitchen team's alternative solution.. Safer way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421275
good luck
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I updated and I don't regret it one bit...I actually like the VZnavigator, I had it on my LGvx9800 "the V" and it saved me from being lost so many times that when I bought my 700w I missed it so bad I almost went back to the V...
I got google maps on the Treo but I had no GPS at the time, then I got my 6800 and flashed to DCD's latest and greatest and I loved it except it sometimes took 5 to 10 mins for Live search or Google maps to locate me and neither of them had turn by turn voice prompts...and by the time they located me I was so lost i had to get directions from some nearby address to where I was going without GPS....VZ Navigator connects in less then 10 seconds at my house and even at the Airport where I work...!!! I don't mind paying for things that I like...
I guess I am happy with my Rev-0 speeds.
Just tested it I got 1.17 Mbps (1198.4 kbps). Since I do not use my phone with a laptop I guess Rev-A wouldn't be needed as much.
I appreciate everyone for posting here. Thanks! Still its good to know I don't have to call Verizon like whne I had to do a hardrest. I will still wait on upgrading. Reading more experiences from people. But the need to upgrade is definetly diminishing somewhat with time. lol
PPCkitchen team's alternative solution.. Safer way:
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What is exactly safer in a method that doesn't work?
Please be a little more informed before you post stuff that's false.
It's on HTC's website, dated July 7th. I haven't seen any other threads on it, and I wanted to see if anyone else has tried it. I've updated to it myself, and it seems to be an overall improvement over the version I had. There's really nothing much in the notes, though it seems they tweaked quite a bit. Most notably, it's done wonders for my battery life. I used to always come home with a phone that was nearly dead. Now I get home with 60-70% still left on the battery. It could be my imagination, but the phone seems a bit more responsive now as well. If the battery life is anything to go by, it could just be from general optimization of the ROM. Other points of interest... the activesync app is no longer self-launching, and Opera Mobile appears to have had an update as well.
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Here's the link: http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=200&act=sd&cat=all
im in the process of doing it know, ill let ya know what i think in a bit
I tried it when it 1st came out, its definitely better than the shipped rom, but its still got all of the bloatware and other b.s. that interferes with performance. IMO, you're still better off with a cooked rom.
ya i honestly cant tell a different between stock rom and this update
Oh yeah, I'm sure a cooked rom is faster. Just thought I'd put the PSA out there. It does seem to address a few issues for my launch version of the ROM.
one of these day ill get around to putting a custom rom on my phone.
thiers just to many and i cant figure out which one i want
stock
if i have already unlocked my phone and running a custom rom and want to flash to this stock rom do i need to do anything different?
No, just flash as you normally do. Every couple of flashes I go back to the stock rom anyway. Probably just the "placebo" effect, but I've convinced myself it helps.
Do it for the Radio
powermatt said:
Oh yeah, I'm sure a cooked rom is faster. Just thought I'd put the PSA out there. It does seem to address a few issues for my launch version of the ROM.
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Notation to everyone here this ROM includes an updated radio. 1.12.20F. So that it's self should be worth it. I run NFS rom but I am going to update to this so I can grab the updated radio. I will then jump to his. My radio is currently 1.03.16F. It also has the later PRL and PRI.
I see the in the Radio Thread in this forum that they have the alltel readio without the whole ROM. So if you want go that route. I have just found that doing a stock flash every once in awhile keeps my custom flashing less problematic.
im still having problems as far as radio signal.........and the only reason i don't just upgraded the radio is their is no alltel dump yet
I also get great battery life after the update.
Tritan21 said:
I also get great battery life after the update.
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Agree and better signal quality. Used the Field Test to check the signal.
tell me more about this field test, i would like to see if my signal is better
chris347101 said:
tell me more about this field test, i would like to see if my signal is better
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Go to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531134
and look on the first post. In it it says how to check my signal. That will show you what you need. Lower is better for all 3 numbers it shows in the post to look at.
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typing this didn't do anything...all i got was call cant be completed as dialed
One very nice discovery I made today (because of how little I actually talk on my TP) is that they've changed the call answer screen a bit. Seems they took a page from Apple's book and changed the answer and ignore buttons into a slider. You slide it all the way left to answer, and right to ignore. Should fix the accidental answer problem I know a lot of people (including myself) have had.
Will this work on Verizon TP? I know i will have to apply keyboard patch but would it work?
Radio should work no problem, especially since alltel and verizon are 1 now.
I dispise Verizon ROM. No YouTube, No Internet Sharing etc... Got it as a insurance replacement when my Alltel TP broke. They said they don't have Alltel TPs anymore.
Please give me the good news... PLEEEAAASE
PS: I already have GPS unlocked using MR1 release from Verizon.
IDrinkV8 said:
Will this work on Verizon TP? I know i will have to apply keyboard patch but would it work?
Radio should work no problem, especially since alltel and verizon are 1 now.
I dispise Verizon ROM. No YouTube, No Internet Sharing etc... Got it as a insurance replacement when my Alltel TP broke. They said they don't have Alltel TPs anymore.
Please give me the good news... PLEEEAAASE
PS: I already have GPS unlocked using MR1 release from Verizon.
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I wouldn't attempt it if I were you. Have you considered trying a custom rom? If you've never done it I could help you through the process. Stock roms SUCK!
Can i ask you if it works in a touch pro un-locked of the vodafone Italy company?
I have an alltel touch pro but my area switched to verizon now, im assuming this won't be a problem because i didn't need to do any update when they switched so im guessing the radio won't be an issue? Really want to do this if it increases battery.
Also will this remove any settings or themes that kind of stuff?
edit nevermind i see it removes everything.
if i take my memory card out before i update can will all the programs that are one it reinstall? and when i put all my backed up data back on the device do the programs reinstall or do i have to do something to reinstall them?
Hi all!
I'm picking up a hopefully gently used Touch Pro tomorrow to replace my HTC Mogul. Very excited to have some extra RAM to work with, as well as the capability to try out all of these great ROMs.
As I have no experience with the Touch Pro, I am hoping you all can tell me what Radio and SPL I will need to begin my journey, and hopefully where to find them!
If you can offer any additional advice about this phone, any tips, tweaks, or general recommendations, I'd be very appreciative.
Thanks in advance!
I forgot to add that I'm going to be on the Sprint network!
Anyone?
I found the unlocking guide above which includes info on obtaining a HardSPL version. I hope this is the best one available.
I have not been able to find any information about updating the radio of the device so it works best with Sprint.
Hopefully someone can shed more light on this for me.
xiton said:
Anyone?
I found the unlocking guide above which includes info on obtaining a HardSPL version. I hope this is the best one available.
I have not been able to find any information about updating the radio of the device so it works best with Sprint.
Hopefully someone can shed more light on this for me.
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You should have everything you need on my guide. As far as radio, what you could do is after unlocking the device, flash a Sprint stock rom (the latest available), which will likely have the latest radio that Sprint released as well. Once you have flashed this package, simply flash another rom (whichever one you like) on top. The radio will remain the same and only your rom will change. Hope this helps.
egzthunder1 said:
You should have everything you need on my guide. As far as radio, what you could do is after unlocking the device, flash a Sprint stock rom (the latest available), which will likely have the latest radio that Sprint released as well. Once you have flashed this package, simply flash another rom (whichever one you like) on top. The radio will remain the same and only your rom will change. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the reply. I was able to find more for our device on another popular forum. It seems that XDA has more of a GSM focus for the Touch Pro. I appreciate your guide as it has helped me expand my knowledge of the device. I feel like I'm all set now.
I did the same thing a few months ago. There is everything you could ever need to unlock and flash to what ever rom you want. After flashing just about every rom here, my problem is that I want to combine about 3 different roms to make the one I want, The only problem is I have no idea how to use a kitchen or build a rom hahahaha.
Tony
YO MAN!!!
Glad you were able to find everything you needed. Holler if you need anything else, we here and over at PPCG are always ready to help someone else... Just remember, there will always be nOObs out there and it never hurts to share the knowledge you have received.
Take care man.
EDIT 1: To the post above mine, try PPCKITCHEN.org... if you are not sure how to cook a rom, this kitchen is made for people with little to no experience... Experiment with it, build your own rom with your own options. Just make sure you do the update first...(it takes forever for the update to complete.) There are also other kitchens out there, but this is the one I first started out with. (Sorry for advertising other sites...)
mapaz04 said:
Glad you were able to find everything you needed. Holler if you need anything else, we here and over at PPCG are always ready to help someone else... Just remember, there will always be nOObs out there and it never hurts to share the knowledge you have received.
Take care man.
EDIT 1: To the post above mine, try PPCKITCHEN.org... if you are not sure how to cook a rom, this kitchen is made for people with little to no experience... Experiment with it, build your own rom with your own options. Just make sure you do the update first...(it takes forever for the update to complete.) There are also other kitchens out there, but this is the one I first started out with. (Sorry for advertising other sites...)
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There are a LOT of issues with the rom kitchen for the Herman in PPCK. A lot of reports of roms simply getting stuck at the initial boot-screen. You can try Ervius or one of the newer Visual Kitchens. Good luck!
xiton said:
Thanks for the reply. I was able to find more for our device on another popular forum. It seems that XDA has more of a GSM focus for the Touch Pro. I appreciate your guide as it has helped me expand my knowledge of the device. I feel like I'm all set now.
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the pro is a good phone as long as you have a good rom.
i am currently using the new xxxRootRom which can be found on the ppcgeeks.com forums. i have tested about 6 - 8 different roms so far and found this one to be very stable and snappy.
maybe try a few so you can compare.
only thing i would recommend is to change the pagepool on the xxxrootrom because for some reason it was set to 6. change the value to 0 and you will be very happy with it.
hope that help.
New to Touch Pro (former Mogul User) - Many Issues - Verizon
I just got a new Touch Pro from Asurion as an insurance replacement to XV6800. I am not new to these forums and have, over the years, applied many hacks and flashed many ROMS to my Mogul.
I'm currently using the stock ROM from Vzn (full device details in my sig) but I'm experiencing too many issues to address in a single post perhaps, and I researched and tried many solutions for hours. My biggest issue is Bluetooth related.
I am using the Bluespoon Spider stereo headset which worked great on Mogul. On TP I cannot get any settings to not cause skips and lags on locally stored music playback. I use both Adv Config 3.3 and Total Commander to adjust bitpool Min/Max bitpool. sample rate, & audio gateway settings. The best I've gotten is clear, mostly uninterupted music with the TP sitting in my lap, BUT if I turn my head to the right (the AVRP controls are in the right earpiece) I get serious skips & lags. I used to go about 100 ft clearsight from my Mogul before experiencing drops! Now with TP a matter of inches and my own head blocks the signal?
Anyone else experince this issue? What are you best results with BT seeings? I remember dumping M$ Bluetooth Stack for Widcomm's on Mogul and that made all the difference - can I / should swap out stacks on the TP? My headset won't even properly coonect, I must continually choose "set as wireless stereo" each time I turn on BT.
As for players, Ive used WMP, HTC player and S2P all with the same poor results. I hate that with TouchFlo 3D off, WMP insists on opening and assuming control of AVRP (play/pause/next) features. I tried one hack to break that and it nearly bricked my phone and it caused my SD card to become unreadable AND unformattable. I'll address that in the proper forum
I was so psyched about getting the Touch Pro, but I think I'm gonna have to cook the pants of the stock ROM. Any help with my bluetooth issue woud be greatly appreciated.