Please note that I do not mean to bash dcd or no2chem. He is the best as he releases kitchens and makes good roms. His rom is the first one that I tried back in the day.
Difference not much really in terms of functionality except that dcd's 2.2.x doesn't work correctly and nueROM does.
Looks DCD wins He has a much better looking rom with themes and better dialer and calculator skins.
Extra stuff nueROM has additional tools that allow you to adjust volume, enable extended rom, and update over the air. Also nueROM includes ringtones.
In my opinion if dcd were to port the "Extra stuff" (the first three anyway) and get the sd card working there would be no contest. However, just fixing the sd card issue will make choosing a very tough decision.
Just my two cents and also I hope that this helps newbies choose a ROM to use. Currently I would use nueROM but once dcd fixes the sd problems I will use his.
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
Currently I would use nueROM but once dcd fixes the sd problems I will use his.
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Doesn't no2chem's have the same storage card problems with the nueroms that dcd's have?
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Doesn't no2chem's have the same storage card problems with the nueroms that dcd's have?
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No it doesn't.
I have been using no2chem's nueROM and have not had any problems with the sd card. AFAIK he fixed this a long time ago. I do not use encryption though but dcd's doesn't work with or without encryption and no2chem's does so currently nueROM is better functioning it just doesn't look as pretty. (it looks more like the stock rom.)
Well just to keep things in proportion, DCD has said that alot of his ROM was based off of No2chems rom and xip. DCD has made a great complimentary ROM which he tries to offer the things that No2chem offers and then some things that he doesnt ie: MMS (arcroft) different dialer, commgr, and removes the games etc.
No2chem has mentioned that he relies on our support thru paypal etc becuase he spends alot of time on these ROM projects and im sure finacially it can interfere with work, or if he is in between work.
DCD (i think) has less time becuase of his work and therefore doesnt get the opportunity to spend as much time.
No2chem is awsome at the inner workings of our phone and together (no2chem and DCD, and plus there are many others) that put out great Rom's, it just a matter of what your needs are.
DCD im sure will be updating real soon and Im sure, like stated b4 that it will be tuff to decide which to use, but thats a good thing.
Keep up the great work, dcd and no2chem and all other DEV's!!
the ppc community greatly appreciate all u do!
I have tested both rom, I find that no2chem has better GPS reception than dcd rom. Could be driver different. For DCD, i get 4-5 satellite but for no2chem I get 6-8 satellites. It might be just my phone.
no2chem uses a registry hack to enable a-gps this allows for better reception of gps signals.
Yes, I applied the same registry hack to DCD rom but it doesn't seem to work for me. Is anyone else get it work with DCD?
I'm sure I'm running dcd rom 2.2.6 even though I have download different neurom 5047 roms. My sd card has always worked but i have issues running music from the memory card. I'm about to test it again but it has been pretty consistent...I can view information from phone but running is a different story but it may just be me. This issue has happened with GPS today, music and even the new speaker cab.
I've used several roms from both of these guys, and I give hats off to both of them. Strong work! I currently am running dcd's 2.0.0, because I was simply losing too much memory from no2chem's wm6.1 roms. The customization was great, and the responsiveness from the device is very nice with the mw6.1 roms, but the memory leak was just too much for me. dcd's 2.0.0 is the only custom rom (that I know of), other than the leaked sprint, which is wm 6.0
I'm glad to hear that no2check has solved the memory card issues, and I'm sure that dcd's next rom will have the bugs worked out too.
FWIW, I like the way that dcd has choosen to display the clock better than no2chem's style.
i just transferred a song over to my 512 mb card and played through media player. It works! Maybe its my 8 gb that has issue or maybe phone was just glitching at the time. I lost my 8 gb memory card, i'm soo pissed right now, i think it fell under middle console near ebrake hole. Its going to be impossible to find, probably fell out...debating if i should try to find it or order a new one...
Im ready to flash to no2chems but i dont know what to do with the .nbh file or the winrar file... can somebody help me?
I have the latest DCD 2.2.6 Rom and Have absolutely no problem with the sd card. I've ran programs from it, listen to music, installed all of my programs, done hard resets and soft resets and haven't had a single issue with the memory card.
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Im ready to flash to no2chems but i dont know what to do with the .nbh file or the winrar file... can somebody help me?
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Check the threads, Google XDA... http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
Willybeen said:
Im ready to flash to no2chems but i dont know what to do with the .nbh file or the winrar file... can somebody help me?
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9927
I've tried both ROMS.... I've made custon ROMs from both of them as well.... I've also never had any issue with an SD card with DCD, except 1 time. My opinion on the SD issue is that somehow during the constant reading and writing to it, something gets corrupted during the writes and causes it to freeze. no sure if its FAT issue but i reformatted the card to Fat32 and haven't had any issues since. I kept the same ROM on the phone.... It reboots fine with the card IN the phone now since the reformat... As for No2chems, I liked it as well, cept the mem leak issue. It's been a while since I made one from his ROM but I plan to make one tonight from his new basekit, BTW _ thx No2chem , it harder for me to make a custom rom from No2chems than DCD's but all in all, they BOTH have pros and cons, but BOTH are very good choices....
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I have tested both rom, I find that no2chem has better GPS reception than dcd rom. Could be driver different. For DCD, i get 4-5 satellite but for no2chem I get 6-8 satellites. It might be just my phone.
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My guess would be that it's more likely due to a change in time between your other tests in addition to differing cloud cover and/or a slight change in location (indoors this may be a matter of feet). Beyond the leaked Sprint release I don't believe that we've seen any other GPS enabled radio driver. I'd assume that the GPS driver of these ROMs is the same.
Within a half hour I may also notice such a change in satellite reception without any software change on my phone. Be careful against attributing a placebo effect for more likely external causes.
Enabling the A in AGPS is a side issue when the concern is GPS satellites strength. Enabling it offers the potential combination of two separate methods to resolve a location. Enabling the A(ssisted) modes will not increase a unit's resolution of satellites.
When viewing the GPS satellite status within a third party app or the Fieldtrial one sees the signal and timing stats for each satellite to your unit and this GPS function is independent to the additional cell tower assistance modes that may be enabled with the GPSone chipset. A change in settings of the A(ssisted) in AGPS should not affect reception of satellites nor alter the number of visible satellites. A sufficient GPS resolution (3 or more satellites) should always be more precise than an assisted cell tower resolution alone, and negate the need and benefit for such assistance at that time. Two different systems of location resolution that in tandem may increase the dependability of a unit's location, particularly when sufficient satellite reception is spotty or unavailable.
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As for No2chems, I liked it as well, cept the mem leak issue
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2.2.6 has an even bigger memory leak and the SD card problem will arise for those of you not experiencing, it did for me. I was all so very happy until it started happening. Went back to 2.2.0 I am considering 5047 to bad there isn't one specific for VZW.
I've gone back to 2.2.0 from 2.2.6 due to sdcard failures and intellisync / wireless sync starting to fail as well.
Sure appreciate all the work DCD is putting into this. If you're using his work, donate, he deserves it more then your cell company.
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I take no responsibility for anything you do to your device.
dcd's titan kitchen pre-1.6.1 (TEST 2)
CORE: dcd's clean rom pre-1.6.1
KNOWN ISSUES: none yet...
ROM: 2.16 / CE OS 5.2.1933 XIP by no2chem.
SYS: Build 18533.0.7.0 ported from custom Wizard rom.
OEM: 2.17 OEMDrivers / 2.14 OEMApps / touch themed dialer, commmanager, calc, media player, audio fix, my tweaks
THIS IS NOT "THE OFFICIAL KITCHEN"!!!
THIS IS NOT MY OFFICIAL RELEASE!!!
This is the 2nd test for what will become my official kitchen release. Use at your own risk. Report bugs, but please dont ask for support.
As time permits, I will fix any problems found and continue to cleanup the kitchen base to form a proper release.
If you are new to ROM kitchens, wait a while. This is for experienced users to help me find problems I may have overlooked. I will not be providing any guide at this time. A tutorial with screenshots will be included when this becomes finalized.
I have absolutely nothing to do with any "official" kitchen efforts. This is the base that I use to build my clean roms.
kitchen 1.6.1 TEST2: 11-29-07 CE OS 5.2.1933 Build 18533.0.7.0
thank you ImCoKeMan, no2chem, bepe, tadzio, dogguy.
if you're going to modify and redistribute this, it would be nice if you drop me a line first.
PLEASE LIMIT YOUR RESPONSES ON THIS THREAD TO BUG REPORTS.
Other requests, questions, comments will be ignored.
If you experience problems, please include specific directions on how to reproduce the problem in your post.
If the issue can be confirmed, it will be acknowledged in post 1 as a known issue.
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Good job Beavis, can't wait to test it out.
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Good job Beavis, can't wait to test it out.
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you've been testing it for weeks, dork. HUGE CLOCK included.
You need to give more detail if you want people to test it out!
Is this a command line based kitchen?
Does it require .net?
Is it script based (like DogGuys), or GUI?
Your first post goes on and on about how this is not the "official" kitchen, its not the final release of your kitchen, its not DogGuy's kitchen...
so, we get what its NOT, now tell us what it IS!
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You need to give more detail if you want people to test it out!
Is this a command line based kitchen?
Does it require .net?
Is it script based (like DogGuys), or GUI?
Your first post goes on and on about how this is not the "official" kitchen, its not the final release of your kitchen, its not DogGuy's kitchen...
so, we get what its NOT, now tell us what it IS!
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im not sure if it requires .net framework. doesnt everybody have this by now?
its the old buildos GUI. run buildos. select carrier. select applications. press play. exit buildos. run createrom. move your new .nbh into the RUU folder and flash.
actually, one of my biggest gripes with dogguy's kitchen is that buildos requires the newer .net framework and my laptop has currently, and at the moment its a work laptop which doesn't give me admin rights to install .net...
So, I thought maybe your kitchen would be a workaround for me, but apparently yours is using the same buildOS, which requires .net.
Oh well.
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actually, one of my biggest gripes with dogguy's kitchen is that buildos requires the newer .net framework and my laptop has currently, and at the moment its a work laptop which doesn't give me admin rights to install .net...
So, I thought maybe your kitchen would be a workaround for me, but apparently yours is using the same buildOS, which requires .net.
Oh well.
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i see. i just took the .net installation for granted. there MIGHT be another option. hang on a few.
edit: nope, you have to have .net 2.0. sorry. i wish i could come up with another option, but i guess not.
however, if "new buildos" does not require .net, it wouldnt be hard to switch out. i just didnt have a need for it as the old buildos is working fine for me.
OEM Packages for your kitchen?
Nice to see you on xda, dcd. I had checked out for a while there (work).
Will you also be posting OEMs customized for your kitchen? Or, do OEMs prepared in standard way work with your kitchen?
Thanks.
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Nice to see you on xda, dcd. I had checked out for a while there (work).
Will you also be posting OEMs customized for your kitchen? Or, do OEMs prepared in standard way work with your kitchen?
Thanks.
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most existing OEMs should work, may take a little experimentation/tweaking to work right once flashed, but same structure.
Missing Device Lock settings
When cooking the rom with DeviceLock builtin, the Settings icons is missing so it's impossible to customize behaviors of DL.
no, its the older devicelock version that is not configurable.
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no, its the older devicelock version that is not configurable.
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Ah, ok. I understand. Btw, as a side note, damn is that new 1.6.1 rom fast compared to Sprint 2.17. I really have no rationale to offer as to why but I clearly see the difference. My device is so much more responsive, minimal lag (for a WM6 rom), and makes me love back my phone (well, almost).
Currently Running 1.6.1 Using Kitchen Test2 11/30/07
Bug found: HTC Clock seems to be approximately :30 faster than the clock in the titlebar. Maybe it is something I did wrong, I don't know.
Update 11/30/07
Using 1.47.1 Radio
I decided to test the different radios at the same location (my desk). This is a poor reception location but is good for testing.
dcd's 1.5.0 rom gave me the best reception/speed with the 1.4.0 radio at this same location versus all other roms I have tried.
Radio Test Results:
Tested Radio 1.40 = Reception was not good. dslreports.com speedtest for simple mobile (400k file) = 450kbits average
Tested Radio 1.47.1 = Reception is slightly better. dslreports.com speedtest for simple mobile (400k file) = 550kbits average
Extremely impressed dcd, this is the fastest rom as far as responsiveness and overall speed I have had on my phone yet and I have installed quite a few from all different dev's. Also, memory usage is great with virtually no mem leakage when phone was on overnight.
Update 12/02/07
I have been using the rom made from the kitchen for 3 days now. I am extremely impressed by how well the memory has virtually stayed at 53-60% over the weekend. I rebooted once every 24 hours and activesync starts at every boot (can I disable that?). Phone is running great. Of course the only qualm that I have is reception, but it is not bad reception. I suppose I am spoiled by the 1.40 radio that I used on dcd's 1.5.0 rom a while back. It seems like the 1.40 radio is MUCH better than the 1.47 radio when used with a pre-2.17 rom. However, I have not had this phone perform anywhere near as well as it has now using this kitchen. Now that this kitchen has 2.17, it seems like using 1.47 radio is actually better. This is just my experience though.
So my experience has been simple actually Performance vs. Reception. Considering that the performance is FAR SUPERIOR than anything I have used before, and the reception is not much worse than before (compared to increase in performance), I definitely will stick with this rom.
Tested Radio 1.47.1 = dslreports.com speedtest for simple mobile (400k file) = 550kbits average so it stayed the same....
Update 12/07/07
I have been using the rom for officially one week. I am very happy with it. First off I must say that the battery life is undoubtedly the best I have had yet. I did not comment on the battery life in the previous updates because I feel like it takes a week to truly judge the difference in battery life between different roms.
I am now running Voice Command 1.6 which I installed about 3 days ago, and I use it a lot during the day. I call all of my contacts and dial almost all calls with the Voice Command. The memory is now a steady 60-70% a day from using the Voice Command these past three days. Towards the end of the day it goes to about 73%. However, the memory usage and performance is still FAR superior than any other rom I have used in the past.
Summary: Everything runs great, only qualm being the reception/data speed. I attribute the poor signal/data directly to the 1.47 radio. Unfortunately it seemed to me that the rom made using the kitchen worked best with 1.47 and NOT 1.40. So it is still a direct sacrifice of performance/memory versus reception and data speed in the end with this kitchen.
Thanks DCD works great so far, all built in options no issues, can drop most ppakages that I use from other kitchens with no mods, I really like it.
dcd,
Nice kitchen. I'm on alltel and built a basic rom. Everything is working properly so far. I'm going to start adding some OEMs and check for any problems.
Thanks
Jay
By the way, Qmenu is a much more memory-friendly alternative to X-button.
And, it has an optional cascading start menu which displays all running apps as well as a memory reclaimation tool (does the Oxios Hibernate thing).
Works really well, and uses under 100k of memory!
Might want to consider cooking that in instead of X-button. (I'm a recent x-button convert)
when it goes to build the registry i keep getting an error saying "Error building default.hv and user.hv" ..anyone know whats causing it?
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when it goes to build the registry i keep getting an error saying "Error building default.hv and user.hv" ..anyone know whats causing it?
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it has to be an oem you added as all that were included were tested.
go into the temp folder and view the log. it will show you the guid of the package that failed. find that package and verify that the .rgu is unicode, starts with REGEDIT4, and ends with a blank line.
Any recommendations of which cooked ROM would be good for a Sprint Mogul aka Titan? I want to flash one that still has the live search bar on the today screen, I use it constantly and would like to keep it.
I have been testing multiple ROM's over the past few weeks and here's what my experience/opinion is. You can load any ROM and then download Windows Live since it's not included in cooked ROM's.
The 2.17 stock ROM loads up with approx 25mb free if you bypass the customizations. I don't run this one, it comes with too much crap I don't need.
DCD's clean ROM 1.5.7 loads up with approx 26mb free with the 1.40 radio. Very stable, and runs great.
DCD's alpha 2.17 based ROM loads with approx 26mb free with the 1.47 radio. Didn't seem as quick as the 1.5.7 and I experienced issues receiving calls with this ROM (had to press the answer button twice and sometimes three times). I have not run this ROM with the 1.40 radio but DCD thinks it may fix the issue I had with receiving calls. I had to soft reset with this ROM alot more than the 1.5.7. This ROM also changes the initial HTC logo that you see on a soft reset with the words "dcd's clean rom" below it. A minor issue, but I didn't like having that there.
Custel's 1.1 4MB pagepool loads with approx 28mb free on the 1.40 radio. This ROM is the quickest and most stable ROM I have ran. My only gripe, albeit a minor one, is that the data connection is named Alltel Wireless and resets itself to Alltel Wireless on a soft reset even if you change it. I use Sprint so it kind of bugs me, though it does not affect your data connection and you do not roam to another network.
I recommend using the 1.40 radio in lieu of the 1.47 radio with any ROM. I get a much better and more consistent signal with it.
HTH
Im going to try out Custels' ROM, so all I have to do is downlaod windows live and istall it on my phone? I really just want the search bar in the today screen, because then I edit the key to search google instead of live.
Yup, that's what I've done in the past. Trying to find a link for you...
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Yup, that's what I've done in the past. Trying to find a link for you...
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Thanks!! I upgraded to custel's rom seems to be running good so far! all I need now is the search bar, greatly appreciate it if you do find it.
jhendrickson said:
I have been testing multiple ROM's over the past few weeks and here's what my experience/opinion is. You can load any ROM and then download Windows Live since it's not included in cooked ROM's.
The 2.17 stock ROM loads up with approx 25mb free if you bypass the customizations. I don't run this one, it comes with too much crap I don't need.
DCD's clean ROM 1.5.7 loads up with approx 26mb free with the 1.40 radio. Very stable, and runs great.
DCD's alpha 2.17 based ROM loads with approx 26mb free with the 1.47 radio. Didn't seem as quick as the 1.5.7 and I experienced issues receiving calls with this ROM (had to press the answer button twice and sometimes three times). I have not run this ROM with the 1.40 radio but DCD thinks it may fix the issue I had with receiving calls. I had to soft reset with this ROM alot more than the 1.5.7. This ROM also changes the initial HTC logo that you see on a soft reset with the words "dcd's clean rom" below it. A minor issue, but I didn't like having that there.
Custel's 1.1 4MB pagepool loads with approx 28mb free on the 1.40 radio. This ROM is the quickest and most stable ROM I have ran. My only gripe, albeit a minor one, is that the data connection is named Alltel Wireless and resets itself to Alltel Wireless on a soft reset even if you change it. I use Sprint so it kind of bugs me, though it does not affect your data connection and you do not roam to another network.
I recommend using the 1.40 radio in lieu of the 1.47 radio with any ROM. I get a much better and more consistent signal with it.
HTH
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i saw somewhere a registry edit that would resolve your connection renaming itself every time...ill try to hunt it down
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Any recommendations of which cooked ROM would be good for a Sprint Mogul aka Titan? I want to flash one that still has the live search bar on the today screen, I use it constantly and would like to keep it.
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I don't know why you don't just try them all out. There are so few that could try them all out from the time you finish eating dinner to the time you go to bed at night.
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I don't know why you don't just try them all out. There are so few that could try them all out from the time you finish eating dinner to the time you go to bed at night.
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someone needs to get this guy cooking roms already
on topic: does the windows live cab in my thread not include the search bar? http://rapidshare.com/files/70134089/dcd_Windows_Live_10.6.33.0600.cab.html
if not let me know ill include it
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someone needs to get this guy cooking roms already
on topic: does the windows live cab in my thread not include the search bar? http://rapidshare.com/files/70134089/dcd_Windows_Live_10.6.33.0600.cab.html
if not let me know ill include it
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Thanks! dcd, I tried your cab as well as your rom and its seems to be working good for me, I also saw that you posted a thread with your kitchen, so here comes the noob question! how hard is it to use that to cook up a rom, is there a tut around to read about that? thanks again for the help and keep up the good work.
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someone needs to get this guy cooking roms already
on topic: does the windows live cab in my thread not include the search bar? http://rapidshare.com/files/70134089/dcd_Windows_Live_10.6.33.0600.cab.html
if not let me know ill include it
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I'll download your kitchen and see what I can do. Building ROMs is not my specialty but who knows, maybe it'll grow on me...
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I'll download your kitchen and see what I can do. Building ROMs is not my specialty but who knows, maybe it'll grow on me...
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Its not that hard, only gets complicated when adding stuff not already included in the buildOS packages. DCD put together a nice little list of commonly used options, you click what you want, hit go, run a script which creates your .nbh, and flash it!
Actually I was able to make one and then test it but just ended up removing hardspl and putting the official Sprint Rom back on until I could figure out how to make something better. The only questions I have now is how add OEMS to the kitchen and will OEMS made for Wizard Windows Mobile 6 ROMs work in this kitchen for the Titan?
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Actually I was able to make one and then test it but just ended up removing hardspl and putting the official Sprint Rom back on until I could figure out how to make something better. The only questions I have now is how add OEMS to the kitchen and will OEMS made for Wizard Windows Mobile 6 ROMs work in this kitchen for the Titan?
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wm6 oems are wm6 oems. gsm stuff might have gsm stuff. it will (probably) build, and then you can fix/tweak it from there. if it fails due to conflicts, you need to identify the files in question, and decide which of the two needs to go. an oem is just a cab laid out. if the cab would install on wizard or titan, its oem probably would.
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wm6 oems are wm6 oems. gsm stuff might have gsm stuff. it will (probably) build, and then you can fix/tweak it from there. if it fails due to conflicts, you need to identify the files in question, and decide which of the two needs to go. an oem is just a cab laid out. if the cab would install on wizard or titan, its oem probably would.
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Great to know. I will start building a new ROM in the morning. It's 12:27am right now and I have to get some sleep. I've been up for over 26 hours thanks to working 2 jobs. I'm off tomorrow though thanks to a huge ice storm blanketing the area I live in. Sucks to drive in but hell I needed the time off...
I honestly believe Imcokeman's Clean alltelwm5 rom is the best. It boots with 28-29mb and is way stable. I haven't had one crash for 2 weeks. Thats saying a lot (for the titan lol).
I love DCD's 1.6.8 Rom over the stock rom. i have verizon.
it is very clean and i love the memory and speed on it. it feels faster than the stock as well and i do not know why i waited so long. doing the upgrade was a bit scary at first.
Some Points:
*All the skins look smoking hot compared to the default skins, The dialer is highly functional now, almost like the spb mobile shell dialer but without the bloat or memory waste.
*i didnt even have to do a *228 to program the phone after the rom update, everything just worked, email sync, text messages, get and make calls and internet.
*27.76 megs ram free after soft reset, i bet i would have more if i used a memory releasing program like oxios hibernate. 1.71.36 megs of storage free. that was more free than i had total before for internal storage.
*it has lots of tweaks pre-applied. like the text message sent confirmation turned off. the audio volume increase tweak, the 5 meg page pool.
*very polished feel, more so than the stock rom
*faster than the stock rom. i would say 50% faster? hard to gauge, but i notice it is speedier.
I have not tried custel's rom or any other rom's, installed this one and was very happy with it.
I've recently downloaded DCD kitchen and love it. I've also starting using OEMizer and making my own ROM's. It's a lot of fun and addicting. DCD Rom's seem to be the best for me. I like the clean approach and it gives me the option to install what I want and customize my phone. The other ROMs include to much stuff I don't find useful.
Taken from the new official Vogue Ship Rom and ported to the Titan.
Flash with USB using the executable here: (If you already have SPL 2.40/2.47, you MUST downgrade to 1.20 using TitanUnlocker before flashing the radio via USB. When it completes, reflash SPL 2.40/2.47.)
http://rapidshare.com/files/125518524/Titan_Radio_ROM_3.42.30.exe.html
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Flash from Storage Card using TITAIMG.nbh here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/125052225/Titan_Radio_ROM_3.42.30.rar.html
I take no responsibility if you mess up your phone.
In your opinion, would it be better to stick with the 3.42 version of the titan radio, or go with this 3.42 which has a slightly higher revision number from the vogue?
any sort of compatibility issues to worry about?
The radios work cross device. There's always a chance for side effects later on down the road as is the case for anything. I've been running this radio now since this afternoon and have seen no problems. In fact, I've personally seen an improvement. I'm not going to comment whether it's "better" than 3.42.02.
THANKS!
That was quick. I just flashed 3.42.02 last night and was dissapointed in the GPS not locking.
I now have this 3.42.30 flashed and GPS locks on quick!! And I also tried, live search, Google maps, and GPS Speed Sentry. All very fast locks!!
THANKS!
I've noticed a significant increase in GPS performance.
I know that gc has the new PRI, but does froader? Wonder if that has much effect compared to the radio itself.
I'll third that, GPS reception seems much better/quicker so far on 3.42.30 compared to 3.42.02.
kockroach, I'm on the 2.03_003 PRI version.
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oh yeah, where are my manners? Thanks for the release GC!!
Oh for the love of..... I literally JUST finished reloading from scratch so I could get the 3.42.02 on my VZW xv6800. I don't have an SD card (whats wrong with me?) so I had to do the Sprint ROM and then lay DCD 3.2.0 over it.
I came to ask if others had GPS problems with 3.42.02 because GPS in the DCD 3.2.0 & 3.35 radio was working ok.... then I see this thread.
Damn you, gc14, damn you.
So is the SD card still the only way to do the radio without borking the whole thing? I should just go grab one tomorrow, I have no excuse for now having one.
I know that gc has the new PRI, but does froader? Wonder if that has much effect compared to the radio itself.
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I'm on VZW so my PRI means nothing. I noticed an improvement in GPS performance on VZW which says a lot.
So is the SD card still the only way to do the radio without borking the whole thing? I should just go grab one tomorrow, I have no excuse for now having one.
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Hehe yeah especially when Best Buy had a sale the other day for sandisk 1gb cards that comes with micro sd to sd adapter, micro sd to mini sd adapter, and sd to usb adapter all for $17.99.
all i care is that this radio fixes the nissan altima bluetooth for the navigation system owners.
Neither HTC or NISSAN take ownership of this fu%&*%ng mess.
6700 works fine but 6800 doesnt.
dammit i just cracked my 32mb transflash /microsd card.
It doesnt work anymore
Anyone have a mirror, rapidshare is acting up for me.
Try this:
http://tinyurl.com/3qcjxx
Installing this now, thanks GC!
What do you expect to find in the installer when/if Slorizon Wireless updates the Titan? aGPS, drivers, etc?
i like it.
i cant tell if this thing working well is making me happy or the fact that i flashed with a microsd, which i have never been able to do before.
either way, gps seemed to work well from my apt window, will test again tomorow and report back.
cautiously optimistic.
thanks gc
Thanks the mirror worked.
on no2chem 5067
+1 thank you for the mirror.. and for the radio release.
flashed from SD card no problem. no hard reset needed. can't say i notice anything too different, as it's only been about 10 minutes now.
everything seems to work, which is obviously a good sign.
Additional mirrors -
http://www.esnips.com/doc/1808de80-d2f1-4b4d-a308-e6f1c72a80a3/TITAIMG
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8TFTZ9CB
does anyone know why i cannot update on a 16 mb card? its all ive got under 4 gb guess ill be heading down to best buy in the next few days.
aguas said:
does anyone know why i cannot update on a 16 mb card? its all ive got under 4 gb guess ill be heading down to best buy in the next few days.
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you throw it in your PC and format as FAT32?
other than that i dont have any suggestions.. maybe its just TOO small a card. during the flash, maybe it needs to write back to the card for cache or something.. after format, that card is prolly only 13.9 or so, and this radio image is over 11.. might just not be enough room!
aguas said:
does anyone know why i cannot update on a 16 mb card? its all ive got under 4 gb guess ill be heading down to best buy in the next few days.
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if you have done everything else right, make sure your battery is over 50%.
yeah i was thinking the exact thing nickles. im just gonna pick up a 512 tomorrah. thanks
edit: i couldve sworn it said it was formatted to fat32. i checked, and it wont format to fat32. the only option is just fat.
I dont care what anyone says - the stock rom is faster.
I've been using dcd 3.2.5 for almost a week - like the Rev-A, dont care for the GPS, rest is pretty good.
But I could swear that it was not as responsive as the stock.
So I just got down reflashing the stock rom tonight - sure enough, the phone is much more responsive.
I'm curious as to other's experience since many think that dcd 3.2.5 is faster (just not in my experience)
So now I'll be waiting for the official VZW upgrade sometime this century...
normally, i wouldn't butt in on this; but i've noticed my phone has been much less responsive...
I'm not going to blame anyone or anything yet, but for example, when I'm drafting up a text, I can't even add recipients from my contacts, it just sits there and 'searches' forever...
but yeah, that's just my rant for today
I really do appreciate everyone's work and I try to help out the community wherever I can, so I'm not bashing.
If anyone knows of any software issues that are creating sluggishness, please let me know.
Otherwise, Keep up the good work everyone.
I agree
Also, I wont dare bash anyone for the work that has gone into these roms. I only wish I had the skill to do what some of these guys or doing.
This was in no way meant to bash anyone - just something I noticed
Maybe its some program I was running - who knows
While I loved having Rev-A, overall speed is more important to me right now
I may go back to dcd's rom in a few weeks if I find I really need the rev-a but for now its back to stock and some more playing around
(maybe I'll find out if it was a program I was running or not)
by chance are you using HTC Home?
I originally flashed 3.2.5 with the Pre-Built ROM and noticed the build was a bit sluggish. I have since went back and adjusted the page pool to 8.5 mb and some other minor adjustments and noticed a decent improvement in the response.
scrawnyb - Just to give you something to compare to... I just now tried starting a text message from scratch and there was no wait at all when opening the message app, selecting a contact, and sending. I have approx. 1000 msgs in my sms inbox and around 130 contacts. Also keep 2-3 days worth of my outlook inbox synced (~50megs.. wireless sync limitation ).
I was on 3.2.0 (fairly stable, bit sluggish). Went to 3.2.3 (buggy for me, not much better on speed). By far 3.2.5 has been the best 3.2.x rom so far for me. I have to agree as well that the original stock rom was fast but i can deal with the minor quirks here and there to get Rev A when tethering and GPS. Also I couldn't live without threaded sms now!
It has been so long since I ran the stock VZ ROM that I really could not compare it outright to 3.2.5. But every build since that first upgrade has been faster and less buggy than the last. I would have to say that the speed and lock up issues are getting better every new ROM.
I am NOT going to revert back to stock to do a side by side comparison so take my opinion as just that: my opinion. But that is the great thing about all these talented individuals who are customizing these ROMs for the public. There is more than one choice and you have to try them all to find what you like.
I've definitely noticed a delay. It's gotten to the point where even touching the start menu and accessing folders has become sluggish, making the xv6700(I compared, xv6700 in stock rom vs xv6800 updated) appear LIGHTNING fast.
And I specifically remember when I first got my xv6800, I noticed how much faster it was than my 6700... Infact, STOCK 6800 has more free ram than any custom rom I've used!! (27-28MB free when I had to flash back to fix my data connection)
I started off with dcd and now I'm with nuerom v2.2 and things just keep getting progressively slower. I don't know what to tell anyone
It's something you guys are doing that is causing the problems.... period... Just to test, I'll make a ROM and you can download it and flash, and tell me what ya see....
My experience is with every rom upgrade it gets better and better. I can't believe how fast 3.25 is on mine then 3.22 was. Huge difference and just about perfect.
I would be curious to know what apps you guys are running. Maybe you have something in common that is slowing you down?
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My experience is with every rom upgrade it gets better and better. I can't believe how fast 3.25 is on mine then 3.22 was. Huge difference and just about perfect.
I would be curious to know what apps you guys are running. Maybe you have something in common that is slowing you down?
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I've narrowed it down to one of the following:
HTC Home <- this seems to be the most likely
Wisbar Advance <- don't think it's this
W.I.M.P. <- didn't notice a difference by closing this
Stock ROM was buggy and it drank RAM like water. DCD's ROMs blow the stock out of the water.
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by chance are you using HTC Home?
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no - didnt use it with either rom
My comparison was 3rd party preinstall - tested immediately after flash
I've got some apps on the stock rom now and its slowed down just a bit but still more responsive than dcd's latest version
What you use depends on what you need - I dont need rev-a or gps so I'll take the speed
What you use depends on what you need - I dont need rev-a or gps so I'll take the speed
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You do know that Rev A and GPS aren't all you're losing right? Have fun with Windows Mobile 6.0 and its crappy memory management, lack of threaded messaging etc.
If Rev A and GPS are what you don't care about...have you bothered to try dcd 1.7.0? Windows Mobile 6.1 without GPS/Rev A, compatible with 1.x.x radios and Olipro 1.20...
3.2.5 is the fastest rom I've seen on this phone, stock or otherwise; AND I'm running it with HTC Home / HHC.
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3.2.5 is the fastest rom I've seen on this phone, stock or otherwise; AND I'm running it with HTC Home / HHC.
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i agree, although i'm not running HTC Home, or VZW stock rom, but this is by far the best ROM of DCD's i've ever run.
WHAT?
I can't really comment on VW's stock ROM since I've never used it; however, I have USCC and have compared it side-by-side with Sprint's stock, as well as Sprint and USCC stock side-by-side with DCD's 3.2.3 and 3.2.5... Yes, I've flashed the hell outta' the two Titans! My personal experience reflects DCD's 3.2.5 to be the fastest (and even most stable) of all. It's awesome! The only problems I encountered I noticed to occur with HTS Home installed (it would consistantly freeze up the unit). I also S2U2 to conflict with FTouch Flo and Slither's Cube (Sluggish). I read about, and subsequently tried, installing HTC Home via HHC and it worked; however, I don't believe that the resulting performance was worth the programs' actual usefulness. I'm sticking with SPB software. DCD's 3.2.5 is hands-down the best ROM as far as performance/speed goes.
Here's my 2 cents worth.
I like the gps but dont need it. I find that it is not nearly as powerful as my bluetooth gps. Certainly nice to have when i dont have my keys with me (my gps is a keychain model). The other problem is that the gps doesnt seem to work when you are outside USA.
I love revA. The upgrade from stock to anything with revA is almost worth by itself.
The memory management of the stock rom is a problem. So dcd has it hands down there.
But the real killer for me. No ICS on the verizon stock rom. Thats the real reason I went to a custom rom. And so far I like dcd's custom roms far better than anything else out there.
Now I agree that some of the dcd roms have not been perfect. For me 3.2.3 for example just wouldnt float my boat. I stayed with 3.1.6 for the longerst time. But I have to say that 3.2.5 is just about bulletproof. As gc said above 1.7.0 was my favorite non revA/gps rom because it was similar. But for me at least 3.2.5 is great. It's incredibly fast and with all the added goodies it make the titan almost a pleasure to use.
Of course your mileage might vary, but for me I can't see much on the horizon better than dcd 3.2.5 (until perhaps verzion release up gps upgrade rom and dcd and cg pull the guts out of it so that we get "instantaneous" gps lock like our sprint brethren.
I swapped over from Verizon stock to dcd 3.2.23 with Radio 3.42.02, HTC Home / HHC, and WkTask 1.1.7.3.
I've noticed a remarkable increase in battery lifetime (approximately 20%), the speed of the phone hardware/response increase dramatically (I no longer have to wait in seconds for the screen to rotate on sliding the keyboard out), and I now have extra features like GPS and internet sharing, which Verizon locks out of the phone while stock.
All in all, my Titan performs faster with a wider range of uses for longer than stock.
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I originally flashed 3.2.5 with the Pre-Built ROM and noticed the build was a bit sluggish. I have since went back and adjusted the page pool to 8.5 mb and some other minor adjustments and noticed a decent improvement in the response.
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Can the page pool be adjusted without reloading the rom? If so, how? Also, what program are you using to adjust the page pool?
Jeff
question: if you guys arent using HTC home what are you using as a replacement that is as good or better?
just curious... I have HTC Home on an older dcd rom (3.1.6) .. it is the only ROM i have ever put on this device other than stock. If there is a known memory leak then perhaps I will update to 3.2.5 and grab a different today screen app.
so any suggestions?
I haven't been on a while, my DCD 3.2.6 has been running as smooth as ever.
Just noticed tonight though that HTC has released the 6.1 upgrade for Alltel users. HTC PPC6800 WM6.1 / LBS Update – Version 3.52.671.9
Probably won't leave my 3.2.6 has it's running smooth, but the upgrades from the HTC site include:
1. Upgrades the operating system from Windows Mobile. 6.0 Professional to Windows Mobile. 6.1 Professional.
2. Adds the ability to use the internal GPS of the handset for advanced location services such as Alltel Navigation, an application that provides audible turn-by-turn directions and business listings.
3. Includes updates for network speed, allowing the phone to use EVDO Rev A networks.
4. Adds all enhancements included in previous software maintenance releases.
Just wondered if any Alltel users have tried it.
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=63&cat=2&dl_id=114
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I haven't been on a while, my DCD 3.2.6 has been running as smooth as ever.
Just noticed tonight though that HTC has released the 6.1 upgrade for Alltel users. HTC PPC6800 WM6.1 / LBS Update – Version 3.52.671.9
Probably won't leave my 3.2.6 has it's running smooth, but the upgrades from the HTC site include:
1. Upgrades the operating system from Windows Mobile. 6.0 Professional to Windows Mobile. 6.1 Professional.
2. Adds the ability to use the internal GPS of the handset for advanced location services such as Alltel Navigation, an application that provides audible turn-by-turn directions and business listings.
3. Includes updates for network speed, allowing the phone to use EVDO Rev A networks.
4. Adds all enhancements included in previous software maintenance releases.
Just wondered if any Alltel users have tried it.
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=63&cat=2&dl_id=114
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I am currently running it. As a matter of fact, I replaced DCD 3.2.6 with this one. It runs just as good and the GPS runs smooth. It also comes with ArcSoft 5.0.71.33. Alltel Navigation is the same navigation application most carriers are loading on thier phones (some version of TeleNav). Comes with a 30 day free trial and works good, but I will not pay the $9.95 a month to use it. When loaded, I have just as much free RAM as I did with DCDs ROM. I still like the work that DCD does, but I prefer a factory ROM if possible and so far this one gives me all that I was looking for.
interesting...thanks for your reply.
I've been running this for about a month now and it runs great!
Only bugs i've seen is sometimes when I get text messages I don't get the orange flashing light and it never vibrates...other than that it's pretty spiffy. I like the threaded txt messaging!
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I've been running this for about a month now and it runs great!
Only bugs i've seen is sometimes when I get text messages I don't get the orange flashing light and it never vibrates...other than that it's pretty spiffy. I like the threaded txt messaging!
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Battery life is amazing 2 days with some use of gps calls txt and still at 70%
hope dcd can help by breaking this to down to kitchen but wish to thank dcd
for making my titan usable until this release.
I have been using the Alltel Rom since the day it was released (actually had it a couple days before it was added to the htc site thanks to this site). Its very smooth and I really like the newer arcsoft. So much easier to send texts. You can reply to Picture msges with a txt without leaving the msg box and creating a new one.
Very stable I have had no errors. It runs Skyfire a lot better as well.
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I've been running this for about a month now and it runs great!
Only bugs i've seen is sometimes when I get text messages I don't get the orange flashing light and it never vibrates...other than that it's pretty spiffy. I like the threaded txt messaging!
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there is a setting under start menu>settings>sound and notifications, and select new text message in the drop down menu. it gives you options like flash LED or vibrate. that'll get it back for yaa
Thats enabled....most of the time it works like it's supposed to but sometimes it doesn't. Havent been able to figure it out yet. Maybe I just need to clear the few thousand txt msgs out hehe.
i thought you Alltel boys might want to know this. I'm fairly familiar with one of Alltel's engineer. He looked at my titan for about 30 minutes a few days and looked at some screens i've never seen. Now i'm not saying all phones on 3.2.6 are not Rev.A compatible, but i know the Alltel ones aren't. He said the "alltel people" were very familiar with DCD, NoChem, and other Roms and respected their work.
for some reason though he said their roms didn't enable Rev.A on the alltel network. This new ROM that they have out does...it shows up as rA on the phone instead of EV. Just thought you'd want to know.
To show you how much i love 3.2.6, i will still probably stay with it. It's the most stable ROM i've run, and i'm well appreciative of DCD's work on this stuff.
I'm running DCD now, but can someone tell me what version ARCSOFT was included with this official alltel rom??
THank you!
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... i'm not saying all phones on 3.2.6 are not Rev.A compatible, but i know the Alltel ones aren't. He said the "alltel people" were very familiar with DCD, NoChem, and other Roms and respected their work.
for some reason though he said their roms didn't enable Rev.A on the alltel network. This new ROM that they have out does...it shows up as rA on the phone instead of EV. Just thought you'd want to know.
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Just out of curiosity, what are the advantages of Rev.A over EV?
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i thought you Alltel boys might want to know this. I'm fairly familiar with one of Alltel's engineer. He looked at my titan for about 30 minutes a few days and looked at some screens i've never seen. Now i'm not saying all phones on 3.2.6 are not Rev.A compatible, but i know the Alltel ones aren't. He said the "alltel people" were very familiar with DCD, NoChem, and other Roms and respected their work.
for some reason though he said their roms didn't enable Rev.A on the alltel network. This new ROM that they have out does...it shows up as rA on the phone instead of EV. Just thought you'd want to know.
To show you how much i love 3.2.6, i will still probably stay with it. It's the most stable ROM i've run, and i'm well appreciative of DCD's work on this stuff.
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I'd say that is incorrect as long as you have the correct radio.
Alltel Official ROM
Dloe2679 said:
I'm running DCD now, but can someone tell me what version ARCSOFT was included with this official alltel rom??
THank you!
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The new Alltel official ROM comes with ArcSoft version 5.0.71.33. Lots of other changes too. I was running DCD 3.2.6 and decided to check out the new ROM from Alltel. It runs great with plenty of free RAM (around 17MB). It has the GPS enabled and comes with TeleNav, but I am using AmazeGPS.
Well....I'm running DCD now but I can't forward txt messages to multiple people...I am running that version of arcsoft as well. Looks like im going to go back to the official rom..No one seems to have any solutions to my issue..
ArcSoft 5.0.71.33 working great wanted to play so broke it down to a kitchen
added manila 2d and still run around 17mb free great rom excellent GPS
with Garmin XL if you would like to try the kitchen i made message me and i will share for beta testing purposes only not responsable for ant damage.
Just to confirm my brain is working right. I can extract the .nbh files out of the installer and us the SD card method to install these, right?
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Just to confirm my brain is working right. I can extract the .nbh files out of the installer and us the SD card method to install these, right?
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Yup.
Has anyone here managed to extract the Radio and flash it with working results?
I've been trying to do this myself and it flashes fine (via MicroSD) but then I get No Radio.
I'm using Dutty's NBHTool to extract it from the Special file, then making a NBH of the Radio only...
Anyone?
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I'd say that is incorrect as long as you have the correct radio.
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you say it's incorrect as you know from experience. Funny you say that. i have dcd 3.3.4 now and i was in Raleigh Durham with my office phone that we just installed the new official alltel ROM. He was running rA and i'm still on EVDO. Doesn't matter as much because i love dcd roms, and like i mentioned, i would assume one of alltel's top engineers might know a little bit more.
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you say it's incorrect as you know from experience. Funny you say that. i have dcd 3.3.4 now and i was in Raleigh Durham with my office phone that we just installed the new official alltel ROM. He was running rA and i'm still on EVDO. Doesn't matter as much because i love dcd roms, and like i mentioned, i would assume one of alltel's top engineers might know a little bit more.
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Did you actually test out the connection at speedtest.net?
If your uplink is over 200k, then you are revA regardless of what the screen says. Put another way, have you determined whether this is a display issue or an actual issue?
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Did you actually test out the connection at speedtest.net?
If your uplink is over 200k, then you are revA regardless of what the screen says. Put another way, have you determined whether this is a display issue or an actual issue?
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not sure about this one...i guess just in listening to the Alltel engineer (that actually runs alot of DCD and other cooked roms) he said he wasn't truly Rev.A. Just repeating what he said.