anybody from the philippines who's using gps on their athena?
may i ask what your gps settings are?
i'm using x7501.
ciao!
Your location is irrelevant as far as picking up GPS signals is concerned. You just need to ensure any GPS aware program is pointed at the correct COM port.
The hardware COM port is COM5, so pointing a program to COM5 @ 4800 Baud ought to work OK.
By default, the WM GPS Driver is active- Start/Settings/System/External GPS, and this may have the port settings changed, typically to COM4. This is only useful if you plan to use more than one GPS program concurrently. Personally I don't, so I have the Access tab's Manage Automatically unchecked.
Pinoy X7500 Toronto Based
Yes just use COM 5, 4800 Baud and you're all set to go. This is also the settings Im using on mine with iGuidance v4.
Im just curious, what GPS software & Maps are you using there? So that just incase I'll go "balik bayan" next year, I'll know what to use.
Here is a Philippine based Windows Mobile Forum:
http://www.pinoywindowsmobile.net/
While com 5 does work, it is not the fastest that will get the GPS lock.
For the absolutely fastest way to get GPS fix, see this thread (see post #51)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375959&page=10
eaglesteve said:
While com 5 does work, it is not the fastest that will get the GPS lock.
For the absolutely fastest way to get GPS fix, see this thread (see post #51)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375959&page=10
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Thanks for that link Steve- the whole concept is fascinating I've seen similar problems using different Radio ROMs and I suspect some of these lock differences may be Radio related to an extent.
To put my logical hat on, I can't see how you can ever get a lock with any software port faster than using the hardware port, which on the Ameo/7500 is COM5. Maybe using the WMGPSID and a software port activates the GPS in the background (at intervals?) to get a quicker fix?
In like manner, I also find that using QGPS actually takes longer to get a fix than just opening the port directly- this may be a function of the Orange SIM I use, or the ORange service itself, as of course QGPS is carrier dependent on getting a good SIM location.
But the most confusing thing in my Ameo is that Radio 1.50 simply never gets a satellite lock (at least it takes 25-40 minutes) where 1.47 gives me a lock in 1-3 minutes regardless of whether I use COM5 or software COM4 or 8. I've tested, upgraded, downgraded and reupgraded to no avail. 1.47 works and 1.50 doesn't This is the same whether using TTN6,m iGO2006 or iGO2008 (which I suppose would be expected)
For a while now I've been running AP4 and like a number of people here, I found that the GPS intermediate driver did not work properly. The GPS ID is, of course, the utility that allows multiple programs to share the GPS device and is controlled by the External GPS utility in Settings. I found that my programs could access the GPS using whatever program port I selected in that utility-- provided the program I was using allowed me to select the port myself, like TomTom or Google maps when set to specify the port. This also affected the GPS Photo function in the Camera app-- you'd get an error saying "Could not initialize GPS." This workaround fixes that as well.
However, in programs that attempt to automatically connect to the GPS using the External GPS applet-- such as GPSToday or Google maps when set to use Windows settings-- the GPS would apparently turn on (the red light starts blinking) but the program would never obtain a fix.
I've finally figured out how to fix it (pun intended).
For those of you that have been around the block a few times, here's the short and simple fix-- extract gpsid_HTC.dll from the AP3 Dual ROM and copy it to \Windows.
For newbies, here's the details of how to do it.
First, download a copy of AP3 Dual and extract it to a folder.
Then, download the Irus Rom Kitchen.
Extract the contents of the kitchen somewhere. You'll end up with a folder called rom tools.
In this folder, run the program called "NBH Extract tool." Click "decompile NBH file," then point it to the RUU_signed.nbh file in the AP3 Dual folder. Tell it where you want to save the extracted files and click OK. This may take a few minutes.
Once you've done that, open a command prompt. and go to the folder where you extracted the ROM kitchen. For example:
cd \
cd c:\rom tools
Then use the imgfsfromnb utility. For example, if you extracted the NBH to c:\ap3, type this:
imgfsfromnb c:\ap3\Windows.nb c:\ap3\imgfs.bin
It will create one more file in c:\ap3.
Then run the final command:
imgfstodump c:\ap3\imgfs.bin
This will dump the contents of the ROM to a subdirectory called "dump" under the folder where the ROM kitchen was extracted. If you extracted the ROM kitchen to c:\rom tools\, then under that is a folder called dump.
This will take several minutes to extract. When it's done, you'll see a whole bunch of folders under dump. The one you're looking for is called gpsid_HTC.dll. In that folder are seven files, but the only one you want is called gpsid_HTC.dll. Copy that file to the storage card on your phone.
Then use your favorite file copy utility on the phone to copy gpsid_HTC.dll from the card to \Windows in main memory. I had no success copying the file from thie PC directly to \Windows on the phone using WMDC, which is why I copied it to the card first. Reboot the phone and it's all set. Google Maps and GPSToday can obtain a fix without specifying a COM port, and GPS Photo works!
gps fix
i know many people dont like to do all those steps for the lazys like me here is the file.
http://www.esnips.com/nsdoc/559fb4bf-d286-448c-b635-b7e5975bd705/?action=forceDL
dreynam2 said:
i know many people dont like to do all those steps for the lazys like me here is the file.
http://www.esnips.com/nsdoc/559fb4bf-d286-448c-b635-b7e5975bd705/?action=forceDL
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Thanks! Ccan you host that file elsewhere, perhaps attach it directly to your post here?
Edit - nm, dl'd and uploaded here.
Will this gpsid.dll fix the Google Maps position error? What I mean is that some times, in Google Maps, I hit "My Location" and it registeres like at least 2 or 3 miles from where I'm at. However, the location 'radius' sometimes cover where I'm actullay at.
Not as far as I know-- this only fixes the problem that Google Maps can't get a fix at all unless you manually specify the COM port.
jsp91470 said:
Not as far as I know-- this only fixes the problem that Google Maps can't get a fix at all unless you manually specify the COM port.
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In my case it did not fix. Nor the GPS photo.
However, I use Irus 6.1 Full SPL1.2.
Works great for me - thanks!
GPS photo - tested/works nice!
Tadeusz said:
In my case it did not fix. Nor the GPS photo.
However, I use Irus 6.1 Full SPL1.2.
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Same here. It does not fix it. In fact, it disabled GPS completely in every single GPS application. They just can't find my GPS anymore. I had to hard reset to recover. I tried in on Mutou's ROM version 1.
This works great for me in AP4 (using Google Maps and TT7). Thanks.
eaglesteve said:
Same here. It does not fix it. In fact, it disabled GPS completely in every single GPS application. They just can't find my GPS anymore. I had to hard reset to recover. I tried in on Mutou's ROM version 1.
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I manged without hard reset. I copied that dll using Total commander. Then when I found it is not working I delleted the file from Windows directory, and gues what? The old dll was still there. I just softreseted.
ThanX, with dowload works for me
Hi Folks,
thanx to the hard work in this forum I can solve 99.999 percent on my own.
But I have a rather curious gps behaviour.
Everytime a program connects to gps my GSM orange alert LED starts blinking even my phone is off. Furthermore I have the other problem: satellites yes but no fix nor any reception at all.
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I tried a new radio (1.57/1.58), new ROMS (AP4, AP3, Irus, etc), hard/soft-resetted many times but still now chance at all. With this file my last hope was gone.
I don't know what else can I do? Any suggestions, please?
Thanx!
Unfortunately the GPS system in the Athena is very picky. Look through the sub-forums for a popular thread that discusses good settings, for starters. Then realize you will never get a position lock when you are inside. You must be outside, usually in a car is fine. Sometimes it will maintain a lock inside a house but not always. It also can take some time even with the best of conditions.
I got tired of seeing the blinking LEDs, so I disabled them in the registry. I believe all of them do still blink even when the unit is in standby.
techntrek said:
Unfortunately the GPS system in the Athena is very picky. Look through the sub-forums for a popular thread that discusses good settings, for starters. Then realize you will never get a position lock when you are inside. You must be outside, usually in a car is fine. Sometimes it will maintain a lock inside a house but not always. It also can take some time even with the best of conditions.
I got tired of seeing the blinking LEDs, so I disabled them in the registry. I believe all of them do still blink even when the unit is in standby.
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Thank you for your idea, my LEDs are disabled too. But in the moment I use GPS the orange LED is blinking.
Tried it the whole night ouside with an external antenna - which worked great with my BT GPS - and I tried it one afternoon at 3000m and a very good 360° sight.
Even the beginner thread (best GPS settings) I read 2 or 3 times as well as the other "gps not working" or "urgent help gps" threads.
The thing is, I don't get signal anywhere. Satellites yes, but no signal? There has to be a way, broken antenna would not see any sat so it has to be software relevated.
With ceMonitor the gps was responding $GPSA etc. but no fix, only satellites. So GPS is there, is reporting satellites nearby and other devices find at last some sats, perhaps not a fix?
TouchPro INDOOR after less than a minute.
For sure I tried QuickGPS and without of course.
Any other suggestions? Radio ROM brick?
I had this sat available and no fix mystery long time ago.
Tried many different rom, none really solve it. Worst with ship rom.
What I discovered lately, I wouldn't dare to say sure work, perhaps give it a try.
Set the hardware com5 baud rate to 115200. Config the gps software baud rate at
different selection. You need patience to monitor and find which setting is best.
Well, I was taught long ago on data comm, it must match but not with Athena.
I strongly believe the gps hardware in our Athena is somehow screw up big time at HTC.
Thanx pdajoy,
I used the last two hours trying your trick, but unfortunately without any results. Not a single peak movement....
I went up at around 2100 meters to have around 220° of sight, again, Diamond (QuickQPS data already expired) found in less than 1 Minute his fix and Athena (QGPS actual for 2 days) showed not one single reaction except to the satellite numbers. I compared them to my Diamond and it was 50:50. eg 27, 17, 9 etc. were same on both but others were different.
My present life of suffering was in ROMs:
AP3 -> AthenaUnlocker v3 (crashed, but restored after reflash) -> AP3 -> R 1.58 -> EnableRapi.cab -> AP4 -> Irus Vanilla 3.5 -> MichyPrima 5.1 -> Irus Full 3.5 -> AP4 -> AP3newslp -> SPL1.2Olipro -> AP3 -> HTC Stock German(latest from Website) -> R 1.57 -> R 1.58 -> T-Mobile Stock German (2.35.111.3) -> HTC Stock -> AP4 -> R 1.58
and in programs:
ceManager
NoniGPSPlot
TomTom7
VisualGPSce
GPSTester
Meanwhile I started counting hardresets but forgot to continue somewhere at 43. I love WM 6.1 ROMs much more now, no nasty softreset after software installation...
First I tried it by radio changements, followed by better software (NMEA reset...), different ROMs and tons of equal problems at google and several pages here. Isn't there any special radio I could flash, some mtty hex changing or any registry key?
Thanx!
NODeeJay, sorry to know it didn't work out.
On my crazzy Athena, fix established only with at least 4 solid satellite numbers.
If you are getting almost similar like the Diamond, my bet is the gps in Athena is fine.
I'm using GPSProxy 2.2, http://sourceforge.net/projects/gpsproxy/ fix time varies with
different baud rate setting but definitely get fixed, with any cooked rom here.
You may need to re-try and confirm the gps status without any other
program installed. Just the gps software.
pdajoy said:
NODeeJay, sorry to know it didn't work out.
On my crazzy Athena, fix established only with at least 4 solid satellite numbers.
If you are getting almost similar like the Diamond, my bet is the gps in Athena is fine.
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I remembered the Athena's GPS was not the best and fastest, but even in the old part of Pragues with very small roads I got a fix. At last I got one satellite with more than 0 singal.
pdajoy said:
I'm using GPSProxy 2.2, http://sourceforge.net/projects/gpsproxy/ fix time varies with
different baud rate setting but definitely get fixed, with any cooked rom here.
You may need to re-try and confirm the gps status without any other
program installed. Just the gps software.
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OK, to understand you right without any other software:
HR -> AutoInstall -> EnableRapi.cab -> AP4 -> HR -> SR instead of AutoInstall -> .NET CF 3.5 -> SR -> GPSProxy -> GPSProxy options (Com Port, Garmin etc.) -> Start?
So my progress:
have done it like the above mentioned way, after GPSProxy install I set the VirtualComPorts to COM8 and COM9 then I mirror COM5 to COM8
then I press Start and wait.
After more than half an hour I have still:
I had a look at the Log:
Informations but no coordinates...
I should play with the baud rate on both sides now? hardwareport - baudrate - GPS Proxy - baudrate - softwareport
Another question: GPSProxy is nothing else than the build in "port proxy" aka "external GPS"?
Thanx in advantage pdajoy, really, I appreciate your help very much!
i have exact the same problem on my athena!search all posts here,never solve this
my only way is to use bt antenna.
Here is my setting for my Athena and GPSProxy.
Athena
- Program port: com8
- hardware port: com5,115200
GPSProxy
- GPS com port: com5, 9600 (set other value to try)
- Output com port: com8, 9600 (must follow com5 value)
Note: Do not tick Mirror GPS Input to Output Port
Back to Main menu - select Virtual COM Ports
tap once to Add, Virtual com port,
it automatically assign Com1, then exit.
If you use Garmin Que, then proceed to set virtual com port baud rate.
Select Garmin Protocol Output, Configure,
Port Type: Com Port
Com Port: Com1: (GPSProxy Virtual Com...)
Baud rate: 9600 (follow com5 value)
If not, just hit Start, first time run, fix will takes a little longer.
GPSProxy is nothing else than the build in "port proxy" aka "external GPS"?
Yes, it is, I use it simply because Garmin Que can't works with the Athena external GPS.
Hi all,
i think i have a big problem with my gps modul and hope someone can help me.
As i used tomtom, sometimes tomtom hangs and the screen freeze. ANd sometimes the device restarts, when i navigate with tomtom 7. But i can navigate most of the time, even more than 2 hours. So I thought the freezes or restarts is caused of one of the custom rom i used.
But when use IGO Primo, i can't navigate with Primo more than 30 min. After start, Igo propertly get the gps fix is very quick, but after navigating for a while, 15min, 20min or max. 30min. igo tells me that gps signal is lost and can't get a fix anymore. In sys.txt i have the right setting (com 4, etc.).
The strange thing is, when igo lost the gps signal, after closing igo, other programs can't get gps fix either (tomtom, htc gps tool ...) so i have to make a soft reset to get gps works again.
how can i find out, if my gps modul is ok or not? I don't like to send it to repair, if i'm not sure is not a software problem. Hope you guys can help me.
thanks in advance.
John
Try to post in the right section and you will more than likely get the help you are needed... sorry if I'm not more of help.
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is "htc general" the right section? ok than i try there. thanks
THread moved..
Hi NRG
thanks for moving to the right place and thanks for the great rom.
I have one question:
As i have problems with my gps, i tried your gps tool "chartCross GPS test" in the rom and have change the baud to 38400.
with the automatic gps search under iGO My Way, the setting is known as com 4 and baud 38400. But as i know, the baud from the hd2 is 57600, right? how can i change back? there is not baud setting to 57600 in the gps tool "chartCross GPS test".
Or it doesn't matter which baud is setting? someone said the baud 9600 is also ok?!
thanks