Help: Problem with GPS - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
i think i have a big problem with my gps modul and hope someone can help me.
As i used tomtom, sometimes tomtom hangs and the screen freeze. ANd sometimes the device restarts, when i navigate with tomtom 7. But i can navigate most of the time, even more than 2 hours. So I thought the freezes or restarts is caused of one of the custom rom i used.
But when use IGO Primo, i can't navigate with Primo more than 30 min. After start, Igo propertly get the gps fix is very quick, but after navigating for a while, 15min, 20min or max. 30min. igo tells me that gps signal is lost and can't get a fix anymore. In sys.txt i have the right setting (com 4, etc.).
The strange thing is, when igo lost the gps signal, after closing igo, other programs can't get gps fix either (tomtom, htc gps tool ...) so i have to make a soft reset to get gps works again.
how can i find out, if my gps modul is ok or not? I don't like to send it to repair, if i'm not sure is not a software problem. Hope you guys can help me.
thanks in advance.
John

Try to post in the right section and you will more than likely get the help you are needed... sorry if I'm not more of help.
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is "htc general" the right section? ok than i try there. thanks

THread moved..

Hi NRG
thanks for moving to the right place and thanks for the great rom.
I have one question:
As i have problems with my gps, i tried your gps tool "chartCross GPS test" in the rom and have change the baud to 38400.
with the automatic gps search under iGO My Way, the setting is known as com 4 and baud 38400. But as i know, the baud from the hd2 is 57600, right? how can i change back? there is not baud setting to 57600 in the gps tool "chartCross GPS test".
Or it doesn't matter which baud is setting? someone said the baud 9600 is also ok?!
thanks

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GPS Instructions w/ new Rom for TomTom and LiveSearch

Everybody has been stating that they got GPS to work, but only some left instructions. I hope this helps. Thanks to those that gave me advice on how to get this working.
Make sure unter "External GPS" that the "GPS Program port:" has "COM4" selected. Leave "Hardware" alone which is the next tab over.
Then under "Access" make sure "Manage GPS automatically" is checked
Live Search for some reason wouldnt work until I got in my car and drove away from my house. Right when I drove away, the GPS kicked in, and worked as if I had an external GPS. My settings for Live Search are "GPS COM4".
In order for TomTom to work, you first have to get your GPS location in Live Search, then launch TomTom, and then TomTom will work fine as if you had an external GPS.
My TomTom settings are "NMEA GPS receiver" then "com 4" then baud is "9600".
These are the steps i took to get GPS working with the new ROM update using the internal GPS. Havent been able to test the Rev A yet. But it seems everybody is stating that is working fine, but only some were able to get GPS working.
Hopefully this will help you all to get GPS working with the new ROM. W/o me doing these steps, I wasnt able to get GPS working. Also please note that I had to leave my house for it to work. With my Bluetooth GPS receiver I could get a location in live search or Tomtom w/o leaving the house. But for the internal GPS, i had to leave the house.
Have you tried with google maps. For some reason i can get GPS signal in my house with google, but not with live. Also, under the GPS hardware, does yours say none, and baud 9600 or 4800?
Edit:
Never mind, I got it working, live just connected in my house. I have baud set to 4800, don't think it really matters. (anyone know what baud is anyway, and what the best settings are?). I wish there was a way to do this without live though.
baud is just another word for bits per second, its the connection speed of the hardware, since its internal it probably wouldnt make much of a differnce
nuebay said:
Everybody has been stating that they got GPS to work, but only some left instructions. I hope this helps. Thanks to those that gave me advice on how to get this working.
Make sure unter "External GPS" that the "GPS Program port:" has "COM4" selected. Leave "Hardware" alone which is the next tab over.
Then under "Access" make sure "Manage GPS automatically" is checked
Live Search for some reason wouldnt work until I got in my car and drove away from my house. Right when I drove away, the GPS kicked in, and worked as if I had an external GPS. My settings for Live Search are "GPS COM4".
In order for TomTom to work, you first have to get your GPS location in Live Search, then launch TomTom, and then TomTom will work fine as if you had an external GPS.
My TomTom settings are "NMEA GPS receiver" then "com 4" then baud is "9600".
These are the steps i took to get GPS working with the new ROM update using the internal GPS. Havent been able to test the Rev A yet. But it seems everybody is stating that is working fine, but only some were able to get GPS working.
Hopefully this will help you all to get GPS working with the new ROM. W/o me doing these steps, I wasnt able to get GPS working. Also please note that I had to leave my house for it to work. With my Bluetooth GPS receiver I could get a location in live search or Tomtom w/o leaving the house. But for the internal GPS, i had to leave the house.
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I have everything working but tom tom 6. It says no GPS device what gives? Do you have to have Live search running in the background for tom tom to work. I close Live Search after aquiring five satellites then launch tom tom 6 and all I get is no GPS device. hehe I know this is a beta and not a release rom. I have no Idea how people can aquire a satellite in their home. Shesh I have a huge solarium and still have to go outside.
what do u mean you get five satellites? Also to answer your question, what i do is after getting the GPS fixture in Live Search, I just click start and go to Tom Tom, without doing anything to live search. It seems to close automatically when I open Tom Tom.
Does anyone know if the GPS signal comes via the Sprint towers or is my phone communicating directly with the satellites in the sky? I ask because getting a signal inside my house seems unreal.
GPS signals come from satellites which is why the signal degrades when you move inside, eventually becoming nonexistent or unreal.
When someone says they are getting five satellites it means that is how many signals their device is receiving and using to triangulate its position. It requires at least four satellite signals to triangulate a current position and the more signals it can pick up on the more accurate the triangulation.
Ks.
when i said "unreal" i meant unbelievable i have a globalsat BT308 (which is kind of old, i bought it in 2000 or 2001) and theres no way i would ever get a signal inside.
so even if i go out of sprint reception area i can still communicate with the satellites right?
For some reason I always have to setup the GPS device in TomTom. It works but as soon as I close TomTom it looses the GPS settings. Then I have to run through the setup again...
Anyone else having the same issue?
My GPS wasn't working at all until I turned on GPS location under the phone menu. Location Settings under services.
Once I turned that on my GPS started picking up satellites with in 5 seconds sitting in my house.
Does Anybody know how to get the GPS to work with iGo 2006? I am having no luck at all getting iGo to recognize the GPS device.
TomTom appears to have a bug where it does not see the port windows gps port sharing is showing because the hardware port is set to none (I think it's actually com1 for the real hardware). As a result until something OPENS the port for tomtom, it's unable to attach to it. Until this is fixed you have to launch some other program that does work first and leave it open for tomtom to open the port.
Shadowmite said:
TomTom appears to have a bug where it does not see the port windows gps port sharing is showing because the hardware port is set to none (I think it's actually com1 for the real hardware). As a result until something OPENS the port for tomtom, it's unable to attach to it. Until this is fixed you have to launch some other program that does work first and leave it open for tomtom to open the port.
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Thanks for the update. =)
Cheers!
Livesearch.
Hey guys,
Does anyone have the latest livesearch.cab
I tried to download it right now, but it keeps getting stuck.
Probably microsoft servers.
Thanks
fusQer said:
when i said "unreal" i meant unbelievable i have a globalsat BT308 (which is kind of old, i bought it in 2000 or 2001) and theres no way i would ever get a signal inside.
so even if i go out of sprint reception area i can still communicate with the satellites right?
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Theoretically, you should be able to get a GPS signal anywhere in the world.
supdawg said:
Theoretically, you should be able to get a GPS signal anywhere in the world.
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I understand that they can selectively disable regions now. (read about it in the paper when they unfogged the signals) so conceivably,we wouldn't be able to use our moguls in iraq or afganistan.
pflatlyne said:
I understand that they can selectively disable regions now. (read about it in the paper when they unfogged the signals) so conceivably,we wouldn't be able to use our moguls in iraq or afganistan.
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I think what they do is place devices selectively in those locations that send out false GPS signals to confuse the NAV devices. (probably from ground based stations or on moving convoys that are trying to NOT be detected)
mshnayde said:
Hey guys,
Does anyone have the latest livesearch.cab
I tried to download it right now, but it keeps getting stuck.
Probably microsoft servers.
Thanks
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http://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx
the automatic download from live.com hasn't worked for me for a while either. it gets to around 15% and stalls...
Has anyone gotten Garmin Mobile XT to work with the internal GPS?
I am going to hold off on Flashing and give DCD some time to mature the release since I already have a G10 bluetooth reciever and have no issues but it would be nice to be able to leave that in my car and use internal when I'm not in my own car.
As far as i know...these are govt sats that are "open to the publuc." In a state of emergency or other situation, they can be blocked or certain areas can be blocked so only, say, certain govts/military could use them. This was the only way the us govt was willing and able to let the gen pop use the sats.

Correct Gps Settings On X7500

HELLO I HAVE X7500 WITH Athena Project Black Dual by PK 3.0 BUT BEEN OVER A LOT OF POSTING BUT STILL CANT GET MY GPS TO WORK ON GOOGLE MAPS OR TOMTOM 6.03 CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP THANKS
For me the GPS setting that works is "Other NMEA GPS receiver" using COM4 - TomTom 6.010.
Hope this helps.
temokk said:
HELLO I HAVE X7500 WITH Athena Project Black Dual by PK 3.0 BUT BEEN OVER A LOT OF POSTING BUT STILL CANT GET MY GPS TO WORK ON GOOGLE MAPS OR TOMTOM 6.03 CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP THANKS
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For Tom Tom, go to main menu /change preference/show GPS status/configure. Select Other NMEA GPS receiver, baud rate 4800 and Com 5:
Then wait for the signal. It may say "No valid GPS signal" for a while, but it will come later. How soon depends on whether you're indoor, outdoor, and how clear the open sky is.
To get Google Maps working, go to Start/Setting/system/external gps,
In the program tab, enter Com5. In the hardware tab, enter None in the hardware port and enter 4800 in the Baud rate. IN the access tab, tick manage GPS automatically.
Then, go to google map, Go to Menu/Option/GPS settings and choose Set by Windows (Via Start --> Setting).
After that, use go to Menu/Use GPS, then stand under open sky for a while. In about 2 minutes, I get a blinking blue dot showing your current location, and the map refreshed from wherever you were to your current location.
There are other possible settings, such as using com 4, 9600 baud rate, etc, but the above would work, and is what I'm using without any problem.
Good luck.
One tip I've discovered is to install VisualGPSCE (Freeware IIRC) and try the com ports till you find the right one - the main satellite tab will show a list of satellite numbers after a few seconds if you're on the right port, Zero's if you're not. I would recommend making sure your clock is set correctly, you've got an upto date quickgps file and are stood outside/near a window if you're setting up for the first time!
Also, My Settings are Com5 (True Hardware), Com4 (Software Multiplex (is that the right word)) and 57000 baud is good.
Use Destinator (get a trial edition if you can) just to get the "RIGHT GPS Port"
Seems It uses the port which WM6 doesnt automatically detect (atleast for me)
Regards
thanks to all
i have at last manage to work thank u all

COULD MODs CARE ABOUT GPS error here - a long time has fixed for many guys

Hi Mods!
I really sorry that I have to open new thread, because I and some others also posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405016&page=4
but it seems that no one can solve that problem correctly. And MODs seems that don't know about that problem.
So, could MODs give us some ideas and solutions.
For example: I used Original ROM, GPS with TT7 was OK.
But when I change to another ROM (any other ROM), it was so good that everything works well but not GPS.
Hope to hear from u soon.
Thank you.
vqscorpions said:
Hi Mods!
I really sorry that I have to open new thread, because I and some others also posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405016&page=4
but it seems that no one can solve that problem correctly. And MODs seems that don't know about that problem.
So, could MODs give us some ideas and solutions.
For example: I used Original ROM, GPS with TT7 was OK.
But when I change to another ROM (any other ROM), it was so good that everything works well but not GPS.
Hope to hear from u soon.
Thank you.
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You do know about the problem with validating maps for a new installation of TT7 ?
Do a google for this in xda -devs.
i used this TT7 on Kaiser and it worked like a champ.
and from your instruction, I also sink to another sea that the need information is somewhere but could not find out.
could u pls give me a better ideas. pls don't tell me that: google something in somewhere.
I spent so much time to discuss and post somewhere else.
thanks
Clarify.
Please explain the type of gps problems your having, Problems with getting fixes? Problems with tomtom?
I need yr help
thanks friend
My problem is here.
When I bought x7501, I installed TT7.45 with Map of North America. It work fast and better than Kaiser I had.
Then I tried to Up ROM to SPL 3.5 (every ROM for 3.5) and I could not use GPS. TT7 work but it only show the working screen with: Waiting for valid GPS signal... forever. And when I find the GPS position, it says: Poor signal.
I tried to change Radio version but failed.
I also tried to convert back to SPL 1.2 now and working with Official ROM 6.0 (but with SPL 1.2 Oliprof). I tried to change Radio version, from 1.47 to 1.57 to 1.58 but failed. So strange (because I had to format the drive when I convert back from SPL 3.5 to SPL 1.2 so I lost my backup file for SPL 1.2 for original ROM).
Now I can not receive GPS signal.
I also try to install GPS Proxy,but this program doesnt run in my Athena, it says: Negative exception and quit.
I aslo try to change th port for GPS to another COM port, but it will not turn on GPS device.
In my Athena, the default COM port for GPS is COM4.
So, that's my problem.
Could you help me with detail instruction.
So thanks and wait for your help
try
you can try going to
settings/system/external gps/
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software port com 4,hardware leave it at none,set baud 9600,manage gps automatically checked
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import attached reg file on device
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install attached visual gps
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run quickgps ,download updated empheris file
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soft reset device
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load visualgps, click agree,click edit,settings,set port to com4,baud 9600,click ok
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hold device by window or go outside
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Wait for grey signal bars to go blue then your set
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load up ttn,click where u see signal bars in lower right,then agn on right above version number,configure gps to use other nmea,set com port 4,baud 9600
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it should instantly have fix!
thanks friend
i hope it will work
i try it now then tell u later
but do u mean that it works for AP 4 only? or another rom?
What Radio do you have installed
i am confused because your sig says you have radio 1.57 but you say in your post above that you couldn't upgrade from radio 1.47.
AP4 needs at least radio 1.50 according to here http://www.htc-hackers.com/uploads/AP4_How_To_1.8.pdf
vqscorpions said:
thanks friend
i hope it will work
i try it now then tell u later
but do u mean that it works for AP 4 only? or another rom?
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Steps are optimal for michy roms,ap4 gps should be blistering fast "out the box"! When I used ap4 I was using radio 1.57,and even indoors I had gps fixes in 30 secs after soft resetting.
As of now I use radio 1.58 for hsupa on michy 6.1 rom and have fairly good gps.The steps above emulate my settings with exception of rom.
GOOD NEWS - GPS is working like a rabbit
Hi friends
Firstly, so thanks to all of my new friends, who were trying to reply and show me the way to solve the problems.
Secondly, I want to give u the good news. Now GPS is working as a champ.
But it is a little bit difference with some guides from u.
- I follow the steps above and change the baudrate to 9600, but after reset, it comes back to 4800 as default.
- The COMPORT for program is COM 4. For the hardware, I set default is NONE.
- Then, I install VisualGPS.BeeLineGPS.v1.83.Build.125 and reset. After that I run Visual GPS Beeline first, it works after 20 seconds and lock my location when I stay in my car (The weather now is -1 celcius degree outside - very cold).
- Then I run TOMTOM, I choose BUILT IN GPS (but not other NMEA). And TOMTOM works perfectly after 10 seconds - I did that because I remember that I always chose BUILT IN GPS when I used TT7 with this one two weeks ago.
And here are some tests after that:
- I turn on Wifi, open DATA connection (that is a issue when I use Kaiser, if Data connection is opening, TT7 can not receive the signal), then open TT7 (without openning the VISUAL GPS), it works after 12 seconds.
- I come into my room (the second floor in a three floors house) and turn on TT7 without using any other software, it lock after 10 seconds with average 5-8 sats.
WOW. It can't be better.
But I still don't know which one help which one. Because, when I installed TT7, then I run it for the first time yesterday, it said: could not run because of the memory available.
Then I try to run GoogleMap (even if I did not connect to Wifi - so ofcourse GoogleMap only turned on but did not run with data), then I tried to open TT7 again and it run (confuse here, who can explain to me)
The problem only now is.... WIFI. I hope can fix it soon as the instructions from CMONEX.
Thanks friends.
slight correction
just a minor correction to guide after you stating baud rate returning to 4800, in external gps settings on hardware tab to change baud I notice you need to set hardware com port to com 5 first then setting baud to 9600 ,then click ok to save.Go back in external gps settings and back to hardware tab ,as you will notice settings saved but now this time select none in hardware port and leave baud at 9600 then hit ok.
As I remember in ap4 4800 baud was default and worked best with that rom anyway,and so far it works for you.I do recommend setting use other nmea in tomtom input your baud and software com port settings from external gps control panel because you used visualgps to boot up your gps to get sat fixes for tomtom, with these settings you dont have to use visualgps to warm it up.Make sure you update your quickgps evrey 2 days then soft reset and hold phone by window or go outside when you use gps with new emphemeris file from quickgps as it can take a lil bit longer to regain track ironically ,but once you get fix itll be super quick no matter where you are,even if you soft reset.The only time you need to have clear view of sky again to get sat fix is if you turn off device completely for an hour or 2, or update quickgps data agn in 2 days (up to full 3 sometimes) or flash a new rom :>.
For wifi,I dont kno how to fix,cmonex prob has to send you a special file to regain mac address so wifi can work even after spl changes.

Toshiba TG01 GPS Problem

Just got myself a TG01 Upgrading from my old SPV M700 I have installed Co Pilot on my new phone bot it cant find the GPS Signal on it
Google Maps works spot on
Any Idea what port it uses?
Its not COM 9 As i would expect it to be?
Thanks
Beau
Hi, i have almost the same problem i install difretn program on my TG01 i i have problem because hi cannot found a gps why
go here http://www.modaco.com/content/toshiba-tg01-tg01-modaco-com/290500/tom-tom-on-tg01/
it's been dealt with few times
I'm using gps gate for memory maps on my tg01, works a treat.
For most of these programs, if there is an option for what driver/source, choose intermediate driver, other than that, it should work without gps gate
for those that use igo8 as navigation software, to be recognized the gps receiver, just add the following lines in sys.txt:
[gps]
source="virtserial"
shortjock said:
I'm using gps gate for memory maps on my tg01, works a treat.
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i found that gpsgate works like a charm as well
sadly its not freeware but you can try it out, it has a trial version
I am using NDrive .. and loving it ... so much nicer than the TomTom and Garmin.
GPSGate does work but there is another issue with the GPS on this device where it will lose the signal after a period of time and then sit there and reconnect. It does still work but intermittently disconnects and then reconnects. Apparently the same thing happens when using Garmin which actually doesnt need GPSGate, so nothing to do with the application but more to do with the hardware.
Be nice if this gets fixed when the next update comes out.
Won't hold my breath though.
I agree with you @zomig
haven't you read sticky psots?
its all been said before..-.-
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haven't you read sticky psots?
its all been said before..-.-
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OK then ...
Where precisely on xda-developers has the issue of the TG01 intermittently losing its GPS connection been discussed?
It is not GPSGATE causing this problem. I believe the problem lies in loosing reception for a second. Without a valid phone signal, the GPS fails to work.
Everytime I lost GPS, I also lost phone reception....
Basically what I think happens is this, somewhere in the software, if the phone signal is lost, the A-GPS is lost, the proper GPS chipset is shutdown too, which throws the GPS program.
Then the phone signal comes back, A-GPS gets a fix and boots the proper GPS up.
My idea is to disable the A-GPS as its useless anyway and get it working on a traditional way. GPS chipset only.
i don't use A-GPS and I still have this problem.
ady_uaic said:
i don't use A-GPS and I still have this problem.
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A-GPS comes on automatically alongside with the proper GPS. You cannot specify it.
I have noticed that I loose signal when the GPS is running otherwise it's fine
I hope Toshiba fix this soon, it does get annoying!!
No sound on Toshiba TG01 for IGO App,
I got the GPS to work with the Virt serial but I cannot get the sound to work at all. Has anyone got the voices to work?
BiG K said:
A-GPS comes on automatically alongside with the proper GPS. You cannot specify it.
I have noticed that I loose signal when the GPS is running otherwise it's fine
I hope Toshiba fix this soon, it does get annoying!!
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Dear friend, that's odd, GPS and phone are separated because if you switch off the phone (Fly mode) , GPS still works perfectly...
Pere said:
Dear friend, that's odd, GPS and phone are separated because if you switch off the phone (Fly mode) , GPS still works perfectly...
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Not on the TG01, which is the problem, when the phone is in flight mode (or no sim card) the GPS fails to work! Which makes me question if A-GPS which works through the cellular network has something to do with all the problems......
BiG K said:
Not on the TG01, which is the problem, when the phone is in flight mode (or no sim card) the GPS fails to work! Which makes me question if A-GPS which works through the cellular network has something to do with all the problems......
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My GPS works perfectly without SIM card..
hello! I am new to this internal GPS thing (I used external bluetooth gps on a qtek 9000 up till now) I tried to find answers on google about how I can connect my igo8 to the internal gps and I cannot find any useful one. could you please help me with detailed instructions?
thank you!

Radio 1.58 and GPS

Hi, i have 1.58 radio and found the following issue:
GPS does not work properly, its not precise, in tom tom it shows you a bit "OFF" the co-ordinates from where you actually are and takes quite long to get a fix.
You have to select com4 in tom tom in order for the gps to work.
Can anyone please tell me how to correct the GPS problem?
Many thanks
Hi
how far off are you? my gps would be within 10-30 metres depending on speed. I wonder how accurate the mapping is in your area?
the settings I use are
in external gps
program port = com 8
hardware port =com 4
baud rate = 4800
in TomTom
"other nmea gps receiver"
com 8
baud rate 9600
this will get a cold fix, usually within 1 minute. you need to get a fix before you start to drive. It will never get a fix if moving. I dont bother with quick gps. it isnt any quicker. There is a thread discussing gps settings for Athena, have a search for it

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