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Hi everyone. With all of these awesome new ROMs coming out I am constantly tempted(and often pull the trigger) to keep trying them out. I have been using Sprite Backup 6.1 which has a feature that saves device data for doing just this and is supposed to be able to do a device restore even with a new rom. I'm skeptical of this considering that many of these roms are built with OS's that are not yet released. Therefore, how can Sprite test the restore fully? The restore options are rom, device, safe, restore databases etc. Do you experienced rom testers/devs have any advice on the best way to painlessly migrate the Mogul to a new rom without installing all of your programs and doing all registry tweaks again etc? I want to try the new DCD 2.2 but I just spent the last 2 days reinstalling everything from my original gps rom to the 2.1 rom. Thanks again for all the help.
I believe the only way is to re-install everything. I think using Sprite merges all the files leaving more junk in your system. I keep upgrading just like you and manually install every file on every update. Its the cost of having your phone run up to date.
ouch, that is going to give me pause before going to dcd2.2. I guess I will wait a bit to rest up a bit since I stayed up until 3am this morning getting things tweaked with the new rom.
shadowreader said:
Hi everyone. With all of these awesome new ROMs coming out I am constantly tempted(and often pull the trigger) to keep trying them out. I have been using Sprite Backup 6.1 which has a feature that saves device data for doing just this and is supposed to be able to do a device restore even with a new rom. I'm skeptical of this considering that many of these roms are built with OS's that are not yet released. Therefore, how can Sprite test the restore fully? The restore options are rom, device, safe, restore databases etc. Do you experienced rom testers/devs have any advice on the best way to painlessly migrate the Mogul to a new rom without installing all of your programs and doing all registry tweaks again etc? I want to try the new DCD 2.2 but I just spent the last 2 days reinstalling everything from my original gps rom to the 2.1 rom. Thanks again for all the help.
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Wow -- really 2 days?
I have mine down to a science now. From the moment I start the upgrade to when I am finished is now 45min or less (my best has been 38).
I have created a doc that list step-by-step what I need to do next; therefore, eliminating the guess work and me trying to remember what's next.
Good Times!!!
I have a bunch of cabs on my storage card that I run. Then I put in my outlook server info and the phone is basically back to normal.
I have heard of the 2577 method on the SD card. I personally have not tried it. Apparrently you create a folder named 2577 on the storage card with the cab files and a autorun.exe file. (EDIT: The AutoRun shoudl be in the Stock ExtRom). This should be in the Stock ExtRom. I have read they use this when doing a lot of PPC for companies.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms832313.aspx
hi all need urgent advice as ive killed my hd2
i was fearful of upgrading to new rom from htc website (v-1.66...)
was using 1.48.405.2 (71294) wwe
I made sure i researched everything 1st. i downloaded trial of spb backup. installed to phone. did full backup, saved to sd card. closed all progs, phone & pc
opened rom update and followed instructions. update then finished, went through setup on phone.
all seemed fine. basic clock, time settings (few new features etc)
I then went to file explorer/storage card and opened spb backup file. clicked next throughout. device reset on its own and loaded with new rom number on startup.
Problem!!!!
have my background image up pictures seem to be back, as are messages. cab files ive installed are present but I cant access contacts and a few other features.
repeated messages are 'a problem has occured with cprog.exe' please tell microsoft blah blah!!!
Htc sense will not launch despite how hard i hit the screen.
Ive no signal at all and cant sync with my pc. i guess suggestions of a hard reset will follow this post but will i not be in the same boat as i will need to restore my settings etc from sd card and spb backup.
please help!!!
try to flash the rom again or try to use your old one.
if you dont wanna hear the word "hardreset" i dont tell it to you
DN41
DN41 said:
try to flash the rom again or try to use your old one.
if you dont wanna hear the word "hardreset" i dont tell it to you
DN41
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ok. will try
shouldprob mention that i got a strange message when trying to restore
'this device is different from one which this backup was made. please choose upgrade mode'
then a dropdown menu with
'normal mode'
'rom upgrade mode'
'device upgrade mode'
with a check box 'overwrite existing files' (this is checked)
seems strange but the message before states that the backup was created on an t-mob leo device.
something wrong here maybe???
yeah could be.
sorry mate, i'm not very knowledged about spb backup
DN41
sp backup has a "rom upgrade" option i'm guessing you usedthat? in which case that's the problem, because it really means upgrade of the same rom, whereas you have a totally new rom, so should use the individual settingsoption, and reinstall your programs manually.
(based on reading, i've never done it myself, nor used sp backup)
re flash your original rom, restore your backup and think again how and what you are backing up.
just tried a 'normal restore' as the description says restore to original device backup was made on.
phone has now turned on with everything the same as i left it but looking at the software description its gone back to the original rom 1.48.405.2
do i have to run the update again?
what the hell is going on with this phone!!!
no, the rom is the new rom, but thats a fine example of whats wrong.
It has restored the rom version info from your registry backup.
The rom version is not a problem, of course, it just says teh wwrong thing, but there are likely to be loads of reg settings that ARE a problem.
Basically, using backup software can be a pain, till you know its pitfalls. Thats why i dont bother. Contacts/calendar via outlook, and thats it. Everything else i setup manually myself. (Well, i dont cos by now i've made cabs for all my tweaks and what not, but tyou get the idea.)
This is one of the main reasons I don't backup Settings and Programs. I only back up my PIM, and sometimes even that plays up.
You are better off just syncing your phone with Outlook, hardreset, sync again to get your PIM information, and reinstalling your programs one by one.
I can tell you this I use SPB backup all the time, but ...
1.) Normal restore is only for restoring to the EXACT same ROM that you had on before ..
2.) ROM upgrade mode is only good for ROMs in the same series*
*ROM upgrade mode only works correctly on "upgraded" version of the same ROM you had on it , for example, in my case I use Energy ROM CHT 23569 JUL 1st, I make a backup, then upgrade to Energy ROM CHT 23569 JUL 16th, then ROM upgrade mode should work, but if you go say from a Stock TMO rom to a custom rom or a 21xxx series rom to a 23xxx series rom you will have "ISSUES".
If you plan on flashing ROMs often , you either need to learn to use something like XDA_UC, Sashimi, or Toms Autoinstall, and make frequent PIM backups ..
As well as keeping all your program cabs in a safe organized place so you can put them back on ...
I hope this helps you get it sorted ....
I've been using KaosFroyo, but I am wondering what advantages the other roms may have over this one. I read somewhere that one of them has Flash 10 working, but I do not believe it.
And does anyone have any idea on the progress being made on a Froyo with Sense Rom. I seen Kaos said he was looking into it. I really like using a Froyo rom, but I do need sense since it has Flash Light built into it. My reason for needing flash light has nothing to do with videos or games, but is a real necessity.
Please leave smart comments and jerks out of this forum. Answers and things that will truly contribute to the discussion and be able to educate.
The question you need to ask yourself before you ask this question, is what do you need that KaosFroyo doesn't do, besides flash, which isn't supported with our chipset.
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It's not about what KaosFroyo isn't doing, it's more about if the other roms do those things better. The other thing I would like to know is what separates the various versions of Froyo apart from each other.
And Flash Lite is supported by the Eris(it comes with the phone), but you need Sense.
i personally like CELB froyo because its very stable and seems faster then the other ones
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It's not about what KaosFroyo isn't doing, it's more about if the other roms do those things better. The other thing I would like to know is what separates the various versions of Froyo apart from each other.
And Flash Lite is supported by the Eris(it comes with the phone), but you need Sense.
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Fair enough, but that's a pretty loaded question.
You don't need flashlite for KaosFroyo, just use SkyFire, enables flash video on several sites. Same limitations as Flashlite/Sense basically.
oh and i also like to run nonsensikal sometimes just because of the themed versions he made with it. theyre both pretty nice
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Fair enough, but that's a pretty loaded question.
You don't need flashlite for KaosFroyo, just use SkyFire, enables flash video on several sites. Same limitations as Flashlite/Sense basically.
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Not totally correct. While SkyFire does solve the video issues, my college is online and I have to access their website. Their site requires Flash. Flash Lite was good enough to access their site. SkyFire does not solve that problem. That problem will exist until there is a Sense based Froyo Rom.
I really just want to know what separates the Froyo roms apart from each other though. As with 2.1 roms, it all depends on one's preference on what one uses. I just wish that I could use the same sd card for both 2.1 and 2.2 so I could go back and forth between roms without either changing sd cards or formatting them everytime.
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Not totally correct. While SkyFire does solve the video issues, my college is online and I have to access their website. Their site requires Flash. Flash Lite was good enough to access their site. SkyFire does not solve that problem. That problem will exist until there is a Sense based Froyo Rom.
I really just want to know what separates the Froyo roms apart from each other though. As with 2.1 roms, it all depends on one's preference on what one uses. I just wish that I could use the same sd card for both 2.1 and 2.2 so I could go back and forth between roms without either changing sd cards or formatting them everytime.
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You don't have to change sd cards just make a nandroid backup of your 2.2 than flash what 2.1 rom you want after wiping data/factory and dalvik and set it up and make another nand backup of your 2.1 and restore ba k and forth. I tmrun kaos frayo and e dry great while ill restore a nand of darch vanilla 2.1 and mess with it than go right ba k to frayo
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You don't have to change sd cards just make a nandroid backup of your 2.2 than flash what 2.1 rom you want after wiping data/factory and dalvik and set it up and make another nand backup of your 2.1 and restore ba k and forth. I tmrun kaos frayo and e dry great while ill restore a nand of darch vanilla 2.1 and mess with it than go right ba k to frayo
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would I be able to save data on it from other things if I do that. I have a backup of both Ivans and KaosFroyo on mine, but I can't save regular data when I go back and forth. for the time being, I copied all the data that I use when using Ivan;s over to my computer and formatted sd card to save data, and use apps2sd with froyo.
I don't know if its a conspiracy or not, but I think Google set it up differently to increase sd card sales, lol
I also flash back and forth between 2.1 and 2.2 frequently (Senseable and KaosFroyo) without changing our modifying my SD card. I have noticed no problems, but I don't use apps2sd on 2.1.
As far as flash 10.1 on the Eris not being supported, I don't see why it can't be done on Froyo, since it's already working on 2.1. It's a little slow but it's pretty good.
Sent from my FroyoEris using XDA App + Swype.
when I first installed KaosFroyo, it wouldn't recognize my sd card. so i had to take all my saved items off the sd card and put on my computer and reformat my sd card. but I have not went back to 2.1 since I went KaosFroyo, but Im about to, so we'll see how it works out for me.
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i personally like CELB froyo because its very stable and seems faster then the other ones
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What does CELB even mean? Im running a CELB Rom and I don't know why they call it that.
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First of all, to the Original Poster: This thread probably belongs in the Q & A section, not here in the Development section.
sk842018 said:
You don't have to change sd cards just make a nandroid backup of your 2.2 than flash what 2.1 rom you want after wiping data/factory and dalvik and set it up and make another nand backup of your 2.1 and restore ba k and forth. I tmrun kaos frayo and e dry great while ill restore a nand of darch vanilla 2.1 and mess with it than go right ba k to frayo
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If you use Apps2SD with a 2.1 ROM, you can't just throw on a Froyo ROM. Froyo doesn't like the formatting of the SD card when it's partitioned. I am now stuck on Sense 2.1 (I used to switch back to Froyo 2.2 for the weekends, but without a second SD card, that's relaly inefficient). Froyo, if you restore an old nand backup, tells you you have to format your SD card.
Nomad145 said:
What does CELB even mean? Im running a CELB Rom and I don't know why they call it that.
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Cyanogen Eris Lightning Bolt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723263
pkopalek said:
First of all, to the Original Poster: This thread probably belongs in the Q & A section, not here in the Development section.
If you use Apps2SD with a 2.1 ROM, you can't just throw on a Froyo ROM. Froyo doesn't like the formatting of the SD card when it's partitioned. I am now stuck on Sense 2.1 (I used to switch back to Froyo 2.2 for the weekends, but without a second SD card, that's relaly inefficient). Froyo, if you restore an old nand backup, tells you you have to format your SD card.
Cyanogen Eris Lightning Bolt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723263
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well I never used apps2sd when I used 2.1 roms. I went from Ivan's 1.0 I think it was to KaosFroyo and when I did, it wouldn't recognize my SD card. I'm not sure if when I go back if it will recognize the card, or if I will need to format it again.
the reason I put it in this section and not the q&a since it involves custom roms and I figured that the q&a would be for more basic questions that people who do not root their phone would use compared to the rooting crowd.
I would like to say I am very lucky to be able to root, since my original Eris got stolen out of my locker at work when they broke the lock off my locker. My replacement had a version of the bootloader(1.49 or something like that) which wasn't supposed to be rootable. I used that method where you can root without a computer to get the job done. I'm still upset that the insurance company didn't send me the SD card with my replacement(had to go purchase another one) and sent me the wrong case(would be fine if I wanted my Eris to hang from my belt, but I had a silicon gel and I can barely get the phone out of the replacement case to use.)
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You don't have to change sd cards just make a nandroid backup of your 2.2 than flash what 2.1 rom you want after wiping data/factory and dalvik and set it up and make another nand backup of your 2.1 and restore ba k and forth. I tmrun kaos frayo and e dry great while ill restore a nand of darch vanilla 2.1 and mess with it than go right ba k to frayo
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Thanks for this answer. Even more thanks for not trying to belittle me in the process. When I went from ivans 1.0 to kayosfroyo 29, i had to format my sd card. because of that I assumed that I would have to reformat when I went back to Ivan's. I assumed wrong because when I went back to Ivan's, I did not need to format.
I think the solution to my problem is to use KaosFroyo for regular use, then when I have to access my college material, do a nandroid restore back to Ivan's since it has flash light.
Every since i updated to the latest rom via the HTC website, i noticed my phone info now says T-Mobile_LEO, what's up with that? NORMAL or what?
Plus SPB Backup also recognises it as not the same device i made a backup on although it is, even if i backup using the same rom it thinks it's different.
Other then this weird thing the entire phone works flawless, was just curious as to whats up.
Thanks for any input.
mine does this too because the energy rom im using based on a rom for the tmous..... must be the same sort of issue.
its nothing to worry about, shouldn't cause you any problems.
I wouldn't advise restoring your backup from an old rom to a new rom anyway in case there are any incompatibility issues....
Just tried to restore my backup from SPB Backup which was made on this phone and when i get to the restore part it states the phone is different from the one which i made the backup ?? Anyone with any ideas what's up here ?
Why does it say it's T-Mobile_Leo in the first place as the rom update was downloaded from HTC's own website.
Anyone else had this same problem ??
I backed up everything and now i can't restore it properly.
121man said:
Just tried to restore my backup from SPB Backup which was made on this phone and when i get to the restore part it states the phone is different from the one which i made the backup ?? Anyone with any ideas what's up here ?
Why does it say it's T-Mobile_Leo in the first place as the rom update was downloaded from HTC's own website.
Anyone else had this same problem ??
I backed up everything and now i can't restore it properly.
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First, you should only use SPB Backup to restore to the SAME ROM as was backed up. Otherwise you will have trouble. Not might, will.
You have to select the Force ROM Upgrade mode, and then just before the restore, check the options and select ROM upgrade. Then it should work.
Hi there,
Well, I just got my HD2 back from repairs, where they replaced the mainboard. The ROM seems to be the same, 3.14, but the phone ID is showing as T-Mobile_LEO. When I restored using SPB backup, it said the ROM was different though. What is going on here?
Thanks,
David
I can't figure it out either, exact same thing but my one happened with the rom update.
Weird.
Do some of you guys use Swype?
If yes, the naming of your device is "normal", Swype wouldn´t run with the "normal" naming.
Afaik, the Swype cab installs a certain file into the Windows folder.
If you remove it, the name would be normal, but Swype won´t run correctly.
Ahh. I use swype, I did not know it actually renames the device.
That actually makes sense.
Thanks for this finally cleared up now.
Brilliant.
I have downgraded bootloader to 1.40 and got s-off. I've been using meanrom for about a week and its alright but i would like to try something different. Are there any way to change roms without losing all your data? When I had my rooted hero, every time I changed roms i would have to reinstall all my apps. Is there anyway to avoid this? Any recommendations on good rom and theme?
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I have downgraded bootloader to 1.40 and got s-off. I've been using meanrom for about a week and its alright but i would like to try something different. Are there any way to change roms without losing all your data? When I had my rooted hero, every time I changed roms i would have to reinstall all my apps. Is there anyway to avoid this? Any recommendations on good rom and theme?
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I wouldn't suggest just wiping caches when flashing Roms. Unless its the same Rom, ie viperrom beta 2 to viperrom beta 3. I use titanimum backup pro to install all my apps after flashes. Try that its way better then downloading from the market.
Go sms pro is good to back up your sms, and you can export your contacts to your sd card if you don't sync them to google.. beyond that, titanium backup is good for apps.. l
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Yea, it IS possible to flash a rom without wiping data, however you will DEFINITELY run into a lot of problems, especially when going from GB to ICS. Just backup texts with SMS Backup and Restore, and backup apps with Titanium. Flash the new rom, download Titanium from the Market, and restore your apps and homescreen layouts. I've flashed many roms, and it takes me less than 45 minutes to flash and get everything back to the way I like it.
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Yea, it IS possible to flash a rom without wiping data, however you will DEFINITELY run into a lot of problems, especially when going from GB to ICS. Just backup texts with SMS Backup and Restore, and backup apps with Titanium. Flash the new rom, download Titanium from the Market, and restore your apps and homescreen layouts. I've flashed many roms, and it takes me less than 45 minutes to flash and get everything back to the way I like it.
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Yes you will run into problems but this is how you can do it *DO THIS AT YOU OWN RISK+. Go to Backup and Restore menu, pick advance restore, pick a backup from another ROM, pick Restore DATA and wait! I herd that it worked for SOME people
For me I always go for a fresh install, wipe everything, format all, with the exception of sd cards. As for the backups. I use Titanium, Sms backup pro (or Go sms), and google. Let me know if any of this helped.
Help!!!! flashing 2.15.00.11.19
Can some one please point me to a cdma stock 2.15.00.09.01 rom, i'v been trying to flash the ones i have with absolutely no success at all.
nut4692000 said:
Can some one please point me to a cdma stock 2.15.00.09.01 rom, i'v been trying to flash the ones i have with absolutely no success at all.
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That's not an evo3d Rom version number...
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fastest way if you want avoid bugs is installing Titanium Backup pro, backup all apps and system data(its good to have everything if you will be returning to same rom), via recovery wipe everything, flash new rom, install TB pro again, restore all missing apps and data, and there mark only green(things like call logs,sms,mms,settings,widgets,wifi spots etc.) and grey (not installed apps, for example games). Recovering everything including all red system data and services may cause some compatibility problems becouse of different roms, especially if comming to another sense/android version. sry for my english
nut4692000 said:
Can some one please point me to a cdma stock 2.15.00.09.01 rom, i'v been trying to flash the ones i have with absolutely no success at all.
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That's not a ROM version but a radio version that I would like to find so that I can get the MEID locations. Anyone know where I can get the radio to flash ? I'm HBOOT 1.4, S-OFF, Revolution rooted.
The most recent radio version for the 3D is 1.09.00.0706
I currently have 1.06.00.1216 but I'm not successful at figuring out how to do the scan for meid locations so far and the aforementioned radio has a list of such floating around. The goal is to boostm.....