I've been using KaosFroyo, but I am wondering what advantages the other roms may have over this one. I read somewhere that one of them has Flash 10 working, but I do not believe it.
And does anyone have any idea on the progress being made on a Froyo with Sense Rom. I seen Kaos said he was looking into it. I really like using a Froyo rom, but I do need sense since it has Flash Light built into it. My reason for needing flash light has nothing to do with videos or games, but is a real necessity.
Please leave smart comments and jerks out of this forum. Answers and things that will truly contribute to the discussion and be able to educate.
The question you need to ask yourself before you ask this question, is what do you need that KaosFroyo doesn't do, besides flash, which isn't supported with our chipset.
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It's not about what KaosFroyo isn't doing, it's more about if the other roms do those things better. The other thing I would like to know is what separates the various versions of Froyo apart from each other.
And Flash Lite is supported by the Eris(it comes with the phone), but you need Sense.
i personally like CELB froyo because its very stable and seems faster then the other ones
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It's not about what KaosFroyo isn't doing, it's more about if the other roms do those things better. The other thing I would like to know is what separates the various versions of Froyo apart from each other.
And Flash Lite is supported by the Eris(it comes with the phone), but you need Sense.
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Fair enough, but that's a pretty loaded question.
You don't need flashlite for KaosFroyo, just use SkyFire, enables flash video on several sites. Same limitations as Flashlite/Sense basically.
oh and i also like to run nonsensikal sometimes just because of the themed versions he made with it. theyre both pretty nice
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mackeydesigns said:
Fair enough, but that's a pretty loaded question.
You don't need flashlite for KaosFroyo, just use SkyFire, enables flash video on several sites. Same limitations as Flashlite/Sense basically.
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Not totally correct. While SkyFire does solve the video issues, my college is online and I have to access their website. Their site requires Flash. Flash Lite was good enough to access their site. SkyFire does not solve that problem. That problem will exist until there is a Sense based Froyo Rom.
I really just want to know what separates the Froyo roms apart from each other though. As with 2.1 roms, it all depends on one's preference on what one uses. I just wish that I could use the same sd card for both 2.1 and 2.2 so I could go back and forth between roms without either changing sd cards or formatting them everytime.
smokedkill said:
Not totally correct. While SkyFire does solve the video issues, my college is online and I have to access their website. Their site requires Flash. Flash Lite was good enough to access their site. SkyFire does not solve that problem. That problem will exist until there is a Sense based Froyo Rom.
I really just want to know what separates the Froyo roms apart from each other though. As with 2.1 roms, it all depends on one's preference on what one uses. I just wish that I could use the same sd card for both 2.1 and 2.2 so I could go back and forth between roms without either changing sd cards or formatting them everytime.
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You don't have to change sd cards just make a nandroid backup of your 2.2 than flash what 2.1 rom you want after wiping data/factory and dalvik and set it up and make another nand backup of your 2.1 and restore ba k and forth. I tmrun kaos frayo and e dry great while ill restore a nand of darch vanilla 2.1 and mess with it than go right ba k to frayo
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You don't have to change sd cards just make a nandroid backup of your 2.2 than flash what 2.1 rom you want after wiping data/factory and dalvik and set it up and make another nand backup of your 2.1 and restore ba k and forth. I tmrun kaos frayo and e dry great while ill restore a nand of darch vanilla 2.1 and mess with it than go right ba k to frayo
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would I be able to save data on it from other things if I do that. I have a backup of both Ivans and KaosFroyo on mine, but I can't save regular data when I go back and forth. for the time being, I copied all the data that I use when using Ivan;s over to my computer and formatted sd card to save data, and use apps2sd with froyo.
I don't know if its a conspiracy or not, but I think Google set it up differently to increase sd card sales, lol
I also flash back and forth between 2.1 and 2.2 frequently (Senseable and KaosFroyo) without changing our modifying my SD card. I have noticed no problems, but I don't use apps2sd on 2.1.
As far as flash 10.1 on the Eris not being supported, I don't see why it can't be done on Froyo, since it's already working on 2.1. It's a little slow but it's pretty good.
Sent from my FroyoEris using XDA App + Swype.
when I first installed KaosFroyo, it wouldn't recognize my sd card. so i had to take all my saved items off the sd card and put on my computer and reformat my sd card. but I have not went back to 2.1 since I went KaosFroyo, but Im about to, so we'll see how it works out for me.
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i personally like CELB froyo because its very stable and seems faster then the other ones
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What does CELB even mean? Im running a CELB Rom and I don't know why they call it that.
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First of all, to the Original Poster: This thread probably belongs in the Q & A section, not here in the Development section.
sk842018 said:
You don't have to change sd cards just make a nandroid backup of your 2.2 than flash what 2.1 rom you want after wiping data/factory and dalvik and set it up and make another nand backup of your 2.1 and restore ba k and forth. I tmrun kaos frayo and e dry great while ill restore a nand of darch vanilla 2.1 and mess with it than go right ba k to frayo
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If you use Apps2SD with a 2.1 ROM, you can't just throw on a Froyo ROM. Froyo doesn't like the formatting of the SD card when it's partitioned. I am now stuck on Sense 2.1 (I used to switch back to Froyo 2.2 for the weekends, but without a second SD card, that's relaly inefficient). Froyo, if you restore an old nand backup, tells you you have to format your SD card.
Nomad145 said:
What does CELB even mean? Im running a CELB Rom and I don't know why they call it that.
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Cyanogen Eris Lightning Bolt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723263
pkopalek said:
First of all, to the Original Poster: This thread probably belongs in the Q & A section, not here in the Development section.
If you use Apps2SD with a 2.1 ROM, you can't just throw on a Froyo ROM. Froyo doesn't like the formatting of the SD card when it's partitioned. I am now stuck on Sense 2.1 (I used to switch back to Froyo 2.2 for the weekends, but without a second SD card, that's relaly inefficient). Froyo, if you restore an old nand backup, tells you you have to format your SD card.
Cyanogen Eris Lightning Bolt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723263
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well I never used apps2sd when I used 2.1 roms. I went from Ivan's 1.0 I think it was to KaosFroyo and when I did, it wouldn't recognize my SD card. I'm not sure if when I go back if it will recognize the card, or if I will need to format it again.
the reason I put it in this section and not the q&a since it involves custom roms and I figured that the q&a would be for more basic questions that people who do not root their phone would use compared to the rooting crowd.
I would like to say I am very lucky to be able to root, since my original Eris got stolen out of my locker at work when they broke the lock off my locker. My replacement had a version of the bootloader(1.49 or something like that) which wasn't supposed to be rootable. I used that method where you can root without a computer to get the job done. I'm still upset that the insurance company didn't send me the SD card with my replacement(had to go purchase another one) and sent me the wrong case(would be fine if I wanted my Eris to hang from my belt, but I had a silicon gel and I can barely get the phone out of the replacement case to use.)
sk842018 said:
You don't have to change sd cards just make a nandroid backup of your 2.2 than flash what 2.1 rom you want after wiping data/factory and dalvik and set it up and make another nand backup of your 2.1 and restore ba k and forth. I tmrun kaos frayo and e dry great while ill restore a nand of darch vanilla 2.1 and mess with it than go right ba k to frayo
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Thanks for this answer. Even more thanks for not trying to belittle me in the process. When I went from ivans 1.0 to kayosfroyo 29, i had to format my sd card. because of that I assumed that I would have to reformat when I went back to Ivan's. I assumed wrong because when I went back to Ivan's, I did not need to format.
I think the solution to my problem is to use KaosFroyo for regular use, then when I have to access my college material, do a nandroid restore back to Ivan's since it has flash light.
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If that means factory reset, sd format, or all the way back to 1.5... Please help.
Yes I have read a bunch of stuff, googled...but going back to fresh "do-over" is unknown territory.
Please post link that is comprehendable, for noobs like me. I believe I am on v3 leak 2.1 OTA with recent update.
Thanks
Wanting to do this asap
what is "recent update?"
in any case... if you are rooted (if that's what "recent update" means) than do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652419
if you are actually on the leak (with the JulyOTA update)... than do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742228
then this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652419
just as a disclaimer... i've never used either method... never on the leak, etc. but, if you read the entire posts, i'm hopefully this works out for you.
read everything 2 or 3 or 4 times before doing anything. and have a solid backup before you start.
good luck!
EDIT: sorry, jcase has the link removed in the other post. my apologies.
I am rooted
I sort of screwed up when I did an sd card to computer backup. Once I reformatted, I cut and pasted back onto SD, then after some more testing of Roms and such, I reformatted fresh, and have no backup crap. i cut and paste, not copy to sd...
I messed up...
So my Eris was 1.49boot, then I was finally able to root..
Now?
I just want to begin over from Factory..
you are rooted and you just can't boot?
i'm not really sure how that applies to the sdcard, unless you were using a2sd, but even then, that partition would most likely not show up when you mounted it.
what recovery are you using? amon's? or...
you could just boot to recovery (holding vol up + power) and turn on usb-toggle... then, copy a rom over, turn off usb, then flash (i'd recommend formatting your sdcard while in there... unless you haven't backed it) - (your post suggest it's empty now anyways).
as a side note, cut/paste or copy/paste SHOULD of worked fine... unless you just drug a bunch of shortcuts over (sorry, not sure what OS you are using... i'm assuming Windows).
do you want to lose root? you could use jcase's Plain Jane ROM... Or ivan's Official... they are pretty close to stock.
if i'm way off base, forgive me. i'm not 100% sure what you are trying to do, or if your phone is even bootable.
I am rooted
I can boot, when I cut and paste my backup on my computer, and moved it to sd it worked...but as I reformatted later, I assumed what was on my computer was still there, so when I reformatted, I lost everything...
Now at this point, I'm trying to just start like out of the box, or would it be easier to just get a new damn one?
Never had any problems until I started having trouble with CyanoTazz v6.
Now I'm all messed up, Titanium B, MMorph, BusyBox...none work
Why don't you just flash a different rom?
That is a question I have: is there a downgrade for leakers?... I would like to get back to a better hboot...
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Just boot into recovery, mount the SD card, copy a ROM over and flash it. And read the directions for the tazz v6 rom again, it works fine.
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nomorefear said:
That is a question I have: is there a downgrade for leakers?... I would like to get back to a better hboot...
Sent from my Eris on Metro PCS (with working mms and internet!) using XDA App on Tainted Tenzo
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This will fix your hboot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725047
This is for going back to stock 1.5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652419
So, it's been about 8 months since I rooted my phone and I'm startin to want to learn more...
I rooted my phone and installed xtrSENSE4.0.6.1 ROM and I've spent the past 14 hours today, reading here and androidforums seein what options I've got now. I'm debating upgrading to the newer xtrSENSE...but I'd like to learn to customize/theme everything as much as possible, so I'm not sure if that's the right option for me?
I'm looking for some direction on things, what ROM would you guys recommend moving to, I LOVE my current ones performance.
My only internet access is through my phone, I'm using wireless teather to type this now, so errors are no option for me, saddly.
I only use the basics of my phone, calls, text/mms, camera, internet, youtube, music player so less is more for me...out of the 7 screens, I barely qualify for using 3, I play most of the Storm8 games, but other than that, don't use much of the stock apps and would like to rid of as many as possible...if possible
I see now, that we've got an option for an improved boot without trackball required, which sounds like something that I should install, just as a precautionary to be on the safe side of things...
I've been reading the "How to theme" threads but I get kinda lost, even in the super noob easy ones...I'm feeling lost as to what I should do, I need step by step with visual...I feel re tarded!
i have become quite fond of the cm7 roms. they run fast and smooth. they all (i think, i know tazz and shed) have wireless tether working. you will lose sense with any cm7 though. themeing in cm7 is made especially easy in cm7 through t-mobiles theme engine. all you do is download and install a theme from the market, run the tmobile theme program, select the theme, and reboot. if you decide to go with a different rom, most themes are through metamorph which there should be several threads on. the froyo roims are also very stable. however, tazz's froyo with sense is the most complete sense on 2.2 and it is missing the camera and bluetooth audio. i saw you use the camera and so 2.2 sense may not be an option for you. it does have wireless tether though. if you like sense then a 2.1 like xtrsense is the way to go. the themes section should have all the information you need to get you up and theming. the only caution is to make sure the theme you select/apply is designed for your rom. amon ra recovery is usually the best way to go especially if you do not routinely check md5sums. the trackball usually starts to scroll left before failing, so unless you have that issue already, you probably do not need the trackballless recovery. however, as you suggested it is often better to be safe now then sorry later, i would pick an amon ra needing trackball over a clockwork without trackball since amon ra checks file integrity before flashing to try to avoid bricking you phone.
Thanks for the insight, yeah, I'm runnin xtrSENSE right now, it's what I flashed 8 months ago and have left it, there's a new version now, I started thinking though, maybe I should try somethin else, and something that I can theme.
I'm a minimalist which is why I was thinking maybe a NON-SENSE might be better suited for me. From what I understand, the SENSE ROMs are harder to theme and the CyanogenMod ROMs are probably going to be more what I'm looking for, since they're suppose to be easier to theme?
I'm kinda lookin for opinions and basics of things to get started learning some more customization skills. I'm also a windows guy and am lacking knowledge in MAC and Linux, which is seemingly where Andriod is based.
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Thanks for the insight, yeah, I'm runnin xtrSENSE right now, it's what I flashed 8 months ago and have left it, there's a new version now, I started thinking though, maybe I should try somethin else, and something that I can theme.
I'm a minimalist which is why I was thinking maybe a NON-SENSE might be better suited for me. From what I understand, the SENSE ROMs are harder to theme and the CyanogenMod ROMs are probably going to be more what I'm looking for, since they're suppose to be easier to theme?
I'm kinda lookin for opinions and basics of things to get started learning some more customization skills. I'm also a windows guy and am lacking knowledge in MAC and Linux, which is seemingly where Andriod is based.
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Vanilla ROMs and CM ROMs are definately easier to theme than Sense ROMs. Here's a good thread you can look through if you want to learn more. This is where I learned a lot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916814
Also all the devs here are very helpful and will always help in any way they can.
CondemnedSoul said:
Vanilla ROMs and CM ROMs are definately easier to theme than Sense ROMs. Here's a good thread you can look through if you want to learn more. This is where I learned a lot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916814
Also all the devs here are very helpful and will always help in any way they can.
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Yeah, I've been spendin most of my time reading that thread and the threads linked in there, there's a lot to read!
What's a good day to day, stable Vanilla or CM ROM? Are those all AOSP? or just the CM's? Maybe I'll just have to flash'em until I find one I like, then go from there with learning Themeing
if you are looking for a cm7 rom, i am currently using gingershedbread 1.6 although i have also used tazz's and it works equally as well. i had been using froyoshedyo previously as it is a very stable 2.3 cm6.2.
I personally run gsb 1.6 an i really like it...but before that i ran nonsensikal black and blue
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I'm running tazz blackened gingerbread now coming from his cm7 v6. Both are running great. The best thing to do though is try a few and see what you like best and what runs nest on your phone.
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I've downloaded both tenzomonks Vanilla 2.0.4. and Worksheds GSBv1.6 I'll have to check each of'em out Was gonna DL Tazz Froyos GB too and compare the three.
As for icons and what not, I know there's packages and theme zips you can download and pull images/icons and things from those, but can you pull from ROM's themselves? Without installing to the phone?
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I've downloaded both tenzomonks Vanilla 2.0.4. and Worksheds GSBv1.6 I'll have to check each of'em out Was gonna DL Tazz Froyos GB too and compare the three.
As for icons and what not, I know there's packages and theme zips you can download and pull images/icons and things from those, but can you pull from ROM's themselves? Without installing to the phone?
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Yes. Just open the zip and go through and find what you want. A lot of the icon's could be located within apk files which can be opened with 7zip or winrar. If they are theme icons then they might be located elsewhere. Just browse around until you find what you want lol That's what I did.
Well...I've got fewer than 10 posts so I'm stuck postin this question here rather than in the Vanilla ROM thread...
I flashed the Vanilla 2.0.4. ROM succesfully to my phone, but when doing a wipe, the Wipe SD:ext partition failed, I tried twice, failed both times, proceeded to install the ROM and everything went fine, I'm just wondering if that's going to cause any problems in the future?
I'm also wondering if I can totally format my SDcard and have a fresh phone, I've got everything backed up on the computer so I wouldn't think it'd be a big deal if an error occured, I could just put everything back on via backup on computer, right? Mabye, delete one at a time on the sd? Just would like to clean up a bit
KamikazeChris said:
Well...I've got fewer than 10 posts so I'm stuck postin this question here rather than in the Vanilla ROM thread...
I flashed the Vanilla 2.0.4. ROM succesfully to my phone, but when doing a wipe, the Wipe SD:ext partition failed, I tried twice, failed both times, proceeded to install the ROM and everything went fine, I'm just wondering if that's going to cause any problems in the future?
I'm also wondering if I can totally format my SDcard and have a fresh phone, I've got everything backed up on the computer so I wouldn't think it'd be a big deal if an error occured, I could just put everything back on via backup on computer, right? Mabye, delete one at a time on the sd? Just would like to clean up a bit
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i'm not to familiar with tenzomonk's rom. most roms do not require you to wipe the sd card unless you need to change the partitions on it. however, i am not sure why your wipe of the sd card failed. if you are running windows, you can boot to recovery, mount sd card in recovery (very easy if you are running amons), when it shows up in your drive list, right click and format. then copy your flashable rom file to your sd card, unmount, rewipe data, reflash.
KamikazeChris said:
I flashed the Vanilla 2.0.4. ROM succesfully to my phone, but when doing a wipe, the Wipe SD:ext partition failed, I tried twice, failed both times, proceeded to install the ROM and everything went fine, I'm just wondering if that's going to cause any problems in the future?
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Did you put an ext2 or ext3 partition on to your SD card? In other words, your SD card is normally a single FAT32 partition. Amon's Recovery gives you the option to create an ext2 partition and a swap partition - generally for apps2sd on 2.1 ROMs for the Eris - and also a way to convert that ext2 partition to ext3.
Wipe:ext will wipe an ext2 or ext3 partition on your SD card if you have one. It will not wipe the normal FAT32 partition on the SD card.
If you did not create an ext2 or ext3 partition on your SD card, then wipe:ext does nothing.
Yeah, I've never done anything to the SD so I'm assuming it's FAT32 and that's why it failed then, thanks, now I know why.
I've been trying to change the keyboard on this ROM with no luck, in the Vanilla ROM thread, there's a link to an HTC_IME.apk for the sense style keyboard, but when I installed those, nothing happend, I followed all instructions for setting up, using EStrong to install, then switching from android keyboard to multi-touch and the first install, the milti-touch wouldn't pop up, then I uninstalled/reinstalled and it "works" but the only difference between the two is the background color, milti is grey, droid is black...
I've got a few other things I'm wanting to change but I can't post in the Vanilla thread yet so I thank you guys for all your support and suggestions in this thread thus far
One other thing now too, I forgot to mention, I've only messed with this keyboard change and I've installed Dolphin browser, and it pops up saying storage space is low, yet under phone storage sdcard, it says available space is 6.17gb out of 7.39gb and phone storage is 139mb
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Yeah, I've never done anything to the SD so I'm assuming it's FAT32 and that's why it failed then, thanks, now I know why.
I've been trying to change the keyboard on this ROM with no luck, in the Vanilla ROM thread, there's a link to an HTC_IME.apk for the sense style keyboard, but when I installed those, nothing happend, I followed all instructions for setting up, using EStrong to install, then switching from android keyboard to multi-touch and the first install, the milti-touch wouldn't pop up, then I uninstalled/reinstalled and it "works" but the only difference between the two is the background color, milti is grey, droid is black...
I've got a few other things I'm wanting to change but I can't post in the Vanilla thread yet so I thank you guys for all your support and suggestions in this thread thus far
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This is a nifty keyboard solution i found. It is an online kitchen that lets you make your own custom keyboard. As far as i know, it would work with your ROM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654179 . I have personally used it and found it to be quite user friendly, easy to use, and free. I used it on KaosFroyo v32 FYI.
KamikazeChris said:
One other thing now too, I forgot to mention, I've only messed with this keyboard change and I've installed Dolphin browser, and it pops up saying storage space is low, yet under phone storage sdcard, it says available space is 6.17gb out of 7.39gb and phone storage is 139mb
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Does it give you the "low space" notification in the status bar? If so, when you go to menu->settings->storage "internal storage" What is listed as your available space? Is that where you see the 139mb free? Could be a rom issue? With GingerShedBreaad 1.7 and about 50 apps installed, I have 67mb free and never get the status bar "low space" notification.
mjb413 said:
This is a nifty keyboard solution i found. It is an online kitchen that lets you make your own custom keyboard. As far as i know, it would work with your ROM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654179 . I have personally used it and found it to be quite user friendly, easy to use, and free. I used it on KaosFroyo v32 FYI.
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I tried that one too, same results
mjb413 said:
Does it give you the "low space" notification in the status bar? If so, when you go to menu->settings->storage "internal storage" What is listed as your available space? Is that where you see the 139mb free? Could be a rom issue? With GingerShedBreaad 1.7 and about 50 apps installed, I have 67mb free and never get the status bar "low space" notification.
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To quote myself:
KamikazeChris said:
One other thing now too, I forgot to mention, I've only messed with this keyboard change and I've installed Dolphin browser, and it pops up saying storage space is low, yet under phone storage sdcard, it says available space is 6.17gb out of 7.39gb and phone storage is 139mb
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So I'm wondering if maybe I should wipe and reinstall this ROM again, and maybe clear my SDcard as well, any suggestions on what format to run on the SD if I do format? The low storage notification pops up when I long press to switch keyboards, nothing in status bar
Hi,
I am new to Android and the Gtab. I am basically curious as to what the best way is to backup my Gtab. What software and the steps to take (what is the difference between cwm and nvflash?).
I actually like the stock rom but my biggest frustration is the lack of the market which I would like to have. Having that said, I would like to run something different on the Gtab which will support the market app and not the Gmarket app. I looked around the forums and I see lots of good tutorials but it confuses me on how I backup with my stock rom before I begin any of the tutorials to upgrade to a new rom. I feel like backing up is the biggest step and don't want to mess this up so that I can revert back if I do make a mistake down the road. I'm sure once you do this a couple of times it starts to make sense but I have not done it yet and want to make sure I understand everything before I move forward.
I am a beginner but want to be able to get more out of my Gtab. Please help.
It needs to be modded right out of the box, so how much could you have possibly gotten installed?
Ok, I'm kidding.
What are you trying to "backup"? If it's DOC's and Books, music, etc, either dump it all onto a secondary memory card, or dump your data to a PC using usb connection. As for settings like email, etc. I say skip the backup and just reinstall the stuff.
I keep all of the working installers I've found on my external SD card so if I need to wipe & start over, I just go through and click/install them again.
bnovak said:
It needs to be modded right out of the box, so how much could you have possibly gotten installed?
Ok, I'm kidding.
What are you trying to "backup"? If it's DOC's and Books, music, etc, either dump it all onto a secondary memory card, or dump your data to a PC using usb connection. As for settings like email, etc. I say skip the backup and just reinstall the stuff.
I keep all of the working installers I've found on my external SD card so if I need to wipe & start over, I just go through and click/install them again.
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Hi,
Thanks for the post. I think I may have not worded my question right. My fault since I am new. What I mean is what do I need to do to backup my current OS I suppose. For instance, it has android 2.2 correct? I upgraded OOTB to firmware 3588 which works well but no market. What do I need to do to back this OS up so that I can revert back to it in case of any problems? Sorry if I am still confusing you guys but like I said earlier, I am completely new and still learning the phraseology and such. Thanks!
jetguy35,
Most people get Titanium Backup and backup the apps and system with a batch file in that.
That takes care of apps.
If the whole tablet gets messed up you either NVFlash back to the bekit 1105 version
per the NVFlash recovery thread in developers, if its not too bad you reinstall the
current 3588 version from a download.
There are other ways some people suggest, but I don't recommend what I haven't used and don't know about.
Good Luck!!!
Rev
An app called Titanium Backup will allow you to back up your apps and their data.
To do a complete system backup, you'll need to get clockworkmod installed (bekit .8 version), once booted into clockworkmod there is a back up option which will back up all system files and apps.
Check this thread in the development section for installing clockworkmod:
[Sticky][Guide]Install ClockworkMod, A ROM, Flash Player, and the Market Fix
Insall clockwork mod .8 and boot to recovery and backup entire rom. ..then save a copy from internal to external sd card in case you need it.
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personally (and I was in your shoes last week)
I would just go through the TNT Lite post and flash that ROM onto the tablet. If you go TNT 4.4.0 you DO NOT WANT CLOCKWORK.
It's really simple - plug in USB, copy the correct files to the tablet, push and hold pwr-volume up and give it a couple minutes.
I think the vanilla ROM is floating around so if you don't have a bunch of personalized files, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Anytime you flash it, you are going to have to add some of the programs back in anyway.
Roebeets TnT build is super fast and super stable. You won't know what hit you when you turn it on the first time.
bnovak,
That's a good idea, but not everyone is ready, or has the expertise or even wants
to move up to a ROM.
I have two tablets and one is running the experimental next generation TwoTabX ROM
that is on hold waiting for VS to do something -- and the other most of the time is
pure stock (so I can test stuff and get OTA updates etc.
When I go to work, doesn't matter which I take because both work well.
Stock is not bad!!! You should have seen the original software!!!
Rev
I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction for moving apps to my sd card. I'm currently rooted but on the stock 2.1. Have done some searching but haven't had much luck. I'm a newbie and haven't jumped in to the rom realm yet. Guess, I don't want to run the risk of screwing anything up. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
mattamous said:
I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction for moving apps to my sd card. I'm currently rooted but on the stock 2.1. Have done some searching but haven't had much luck. I'm a newbie and haven't jumped in to the rom realm yet. Guess, I don't want to run the risk of screwing anything up. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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It would probably be easiest to flash [ROM][GPL][3/15/2011] xtrSENSE5.0.1 [cache2cache,apps2sd,oc,jit]-HTC Sense. It is extremely close to stock but has all the advantages including having Apps2SD built in. You can read zach.xtr's instructions for using Apps2SD under AndroidOS 2.1 in that first post in a section that's titled "Apps2sd and Cache2sd:".
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It would probably be easiest to flash [ROM][GPL][3/15/2011] xtrSENSE5.0.1 [cache2cache,apps2sd,oc,jit]-HTC Sense. It is extremely close to stock but has all the advantages including having Apps2SD built in. You can read zach.xtr's instructions for using Apps2SD under AndroidOS 2.1 in that first post in a section that's titled "Apps2sd and Cache2sd:".
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Are you currently running this rom? If so, have you come across an problems with it yet?
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Are you currently running this rom? If so, have you come across an problems with it yet?
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The last version of this I used was v4.6.5, just less than a couple months ago. Before that I had run many versions of it and xtrROM. At the moment I'm using GSB v2.7.
I don't recall any problems with xtrSENSE at all, it's the ROM I recommend the most to people who ask for a recommendation.
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The last version of this I used was v4.6.5, just less than a couple months ago. Before that I had run many versions of it and xtrROM. At the moment I'm using GSB v2.7.
I don't recall any problems with xtrSENSE at all, it's the ROM I recommend the most to people who ask for a recommendation.
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I appreciate that. I'll continue to research it and take your recommendation into consideration. Just a little hesitant to roms still but if I want to better my eris, looks like I need to jump the gun a little.
xtrSENSE is a fantastic ROM and I also recommend it to anybody new to rooting, unless they are specific in wanting to get away from Sense at all costs, or needs something like Google Voice Search/Actions (which requires Froyo or better).
I have one issue with xtrSENSE, but it seems to be unique to me: after running the ROM for a while, the phone becomes erratic about reminders for items in my calendar. For example, if I have a meeting at 4:30 pm and have a reminder set to 15 minutes, after running these ROMs (xtrSENSE, xtrROM and stock, actually) for a while, they may or may not sound the reminder at 4:15 pm, as desired. Sometimes they do, often they don't - often, they will fire off at some random time hours later, and even rarely never remind me at all until I restart the phone, and then they all start pouring in.
This was the major reason why I finally rooted a few weeks after 2.1 finally came to the Eris last year.
I have never seen anybody else report this issue with xtrSENSE, though, so I continue to recommend it to others. It's great advantage is that if you have been running stock, it will look and feel just the same, except faster, with better battery life, without the lag that happens with stock as your text message and call log grows.
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xtrSENSE is a fantastic ROM and I also recommend it to anybody new to rooting, unless they are specific in wanting to get away from Sense at all costs, or needs something like Google Voice Search/Actions (which requires Froyo or better).
I have one issue with xtrSENSE, but it seems to be unique to me: after running the ROM for a while, the phone becomes erratic about reminders for items in my calendar. For example, if I have a meeting at 4:30 pm and have a reminder set to 15 minutes, after running these ROMs (xtrSENSE, xtrROM and stock, actually) for a while, they may or may not sound the reminder at 4:15 pm, as desired. Sometimes they do, often they don't - often, they will fire off at some random time hours later, and even rarely never remind me at all until I restart the phone, and then they all start pouring in.
This was the major reason why I finally rooted a few weeks after 2.1 finally came to the Eris last year.
I have never seen anybody else report this issue with xtrSENSE, though, so I continue to recommend it to others. It's great advantage is that if you have been running stock, it will look and feel just the same, except faster, with better battery life, without the lag that happens with stock as your text message and call log grows.
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That's because your Eris runs outside the normal space-time continuum.
So, after looking into both xtrROM and xtrSense, I'm not sure which would be the better idea. I don't have to have sense but both sound like they would be great roms. Also, should I stick with 2.1 or jump higher to 2.2 or even 2.3??
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So, after looking into both xtrROM and xtrSense, I'm not sure which would be the better idea. I don't have to have sense but both sound like they would be great roms. Also, should I stick with 2.1 or jump higher to 2.2 or even 2.3??
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It would probably be best if you just start flashing some of them to see for yourself. Keep in mind that without the Sense home, the phone will feel a little different, plus not be able to use the Sense widgets. Since you already have experience with Sense, flash xtrROM and see how you like it. Then I would personally just skip right over 2.2 and go to 2.3 since it's essentially fully developed now.
I'm personally using GSB (soon to flash v2.8) and Tazz's Gingerbread ROM get's rave reviews, too.
Try a few ROMs and find out what you like best.
What's the best back up app? Or, with Astro and a nandroid, would that be good enough?
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What's the best back up app? Or, with Astro and a nandroid, would that be good enough?
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As far as backing up your apps and/or their settings, I swore by My Backup Pro for quite a long time but since going to Gingerbread, I've taken advantage of Titanium Backup's ability to restore apps to where they were backed up from (not applicable to the stock ROM), which is handy for me because using Gingerbread's (or Froyo's) native Apps2SD, I have a total of 190 user and system apps.
I don't know if they've added any feature like that in My Backup. If they have, then it would have been very recently.
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What's the best back up app? Or, with Astro and a nandroid, would that be good enough?
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Personally, I use cyanogen as my rom and nandroid to backup the phone...you know in case the rom fubars the phone.
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I use titanium back up and copy my sdcard to my computer before doing a wipe also make a nandroid copy there as well.
I went with My Backup Pro and made a copy of my sd card to my laptop. I was trying this technique last night but it had an error at the end of the command prompt.
http://www.askstudent.com/how-to/resolve-phone-storage-space-is-getting-low-on-android-phones/
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I went with My Backup Pro and made a copy of my sd card to my laptop. I was trying this technique last night but it had an error at the end of the command prompt.
http://www.askstudent.com/how-to/resolve-phone-storage-space-is-getting-low-on-android-phones/
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I see this at that link:
However, Google listened and with Froyo or Android 2.2 release, they included the App2SD functionality.
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You said you're on rooted stock, and those instructions are for 2.2+ ROMs only so it won't help you unless you since flashed another ROM. Have you? If so, which one?
Also, those instructions are purely to help move apps which normally wouldn't allow you to move them, which as I might've said Titanium Backup (paid version) will allow you to do by the Batch, and the free "Install Manager" may allow you to do so in batch, too, I've just read.
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I see this at that link:
You said you're on rooted stock, and those instructions are for 2.2+ ROMs only so it won't help you unless you since flashed another ROM. Have you? If so, which one?
Also, those instructions are purely to help move apps which normally wouldn't allow you to move them, which as I might've said Titanium Backup (paid version) will allow you to do by the Batch, and the free "Install Manager" may allow you to do so in batch, too, I've just read.
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Somehow, I must have missed that. I haven't flashed anything just yet; I was hoping that would do the trick before I went to flashing a rom. I downloaded the free version of titanium last night but it wouldn't backup, saying that I didn't have busybox. I downloaded busybox afterwards but it had a few warnings right at the beginning that I wasn't sure about so that's why I went with backup pro. I just checked into install manager but it isn't in the market.
With the help you have already given, is there a set of instructions for the nandroid backup process? I'm kinda interested in xtrROM but want to get all my ducks in a row before I flash it. Thanks for the help! Appreciate it!
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Somehow, I must have missed that. I haven't flashed anything just yet; I was hoping that would do the trick before I went to flashing a rom. I downloaded the free version of titanium last night but it wouldn't backup, saying that I didn't have busybox. I downloaded busybox afterwards but it had a few warnings right at the beginning that I wasn't sure about so that's why I went with backup pro. I just checked into install manager but it isn't in the market.
With the help you have already given, is there a set of instructions for the nandroid backup process? I'm kinda interested in xtrROM but want to get all my ducks in a row before I flash it. Thanks for the help! Appreciate it!
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BusyBox is included with any custom ROM, another reason it's just easier to flash a ROM like xtrSENSE or xtrROM as you mentioned, although with Apps2SD under Android 2.1, you need to backup the entire contents of your SD card, repartition it to include an Ext2 partition and 0 (zero) Swap, and the rest FAT32 as normal. All can be done from Recovery.
What method did you use to root? I'm assuming that whatever method you used installed a custom recovery. To make sure you do have a custom recovery, turn the phone off, press and HOLD the volume up button and press the End button long enough to turn the phone on. Keep holding the volume up button for a few seconds longer. When it goes into recovery if you have Amon RA recovery it should say something like amon-ra-eris-1.6.2 at the bottom.
In Amon RA recovery, reference http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648025 there are these menu options:
Use the trackball (up+down) to navigate through the menu, press the trackball to select items. Use the Volume-down key to go back to a previous menu.
Reboot system now :: reboot your phone
USB-MS Toggle :: enable/disable USB mass storage (use when the phone is connected to your PC)
Backup/Restore
Nand backup :: Make a Nand backup, the following partitions are NOT included :
Recovery (to avoid restoring old version)
Cache (no need to backup imo)
Misc (no need to backup imo + restore issues on some phones)
Splash1+2 (no need to backup imo + restore issues on some phones)
Nand + ext backup :: Make a Nand + ext backup
Nand restore :: Restore a Nand backup
BART backup :: Make a BART backup (Nand + ext)
BART restore :: Restore latest BART backup
Flash zip from sdcard :: Flash a zip update file from your sdcard
Wipe
Wipe data/factory reset :: Wipe /data and /cache
Wipe Dalvik-cache :: Wipe Dalvik-cache both on /data and ext
Wipe SD:ext partition : Wipe the ext partition on your sdcard
Wipe battery stats : Wipe the battery stats in /data
Wipe rotate settings : Wipe the sensor settings in /data
Partition sdcard
Partition SD :: Interactive SD partitioning
Repair SD:ext :: Repair the ext partition
SD:ext2 to ext3 :: Convert ext2 to ext3
SD:ext3 to ext4 :: Convert ext3 to ext4
Other
Fix apk uid mismatches :: Does extacly that
Move apps+dalv to SD :: Moves all apps and Dalvik-cache to sdcard (This will NOT enable apps2sd!)
Move recovery.log to SD :: Moves the recovery log file to your sdcard. (Use when you want more detailed recovery log information)
Power off :: Powers off your phone
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To make a nandroid, just choose the "Backup/Restore" menu with your trackball, then choose "Nand backup".
The Market search is quirky. Here's a link to Install Manager on the market: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.beidl.chooseloc.
Install Manager or anything else having to do with Apps2SD won't do you any good without either flashing the Apps2SD script from recovery, or flashing a custom ROM that includes Apps2SD.
You can find the most important information via links from the Eris Roll-up Thread.
Thank you very much! A huge help! I used the 1 click Eris root.
Flashed xtrROM based on your recommendation and so far its pretty rad. Really smooth and quick too.
im looking for some info working with a droid eris used 1click method to root ive got the 2.2 froshedyo 11 rom the kernel is 2.6.29 DECAFUCTCFS-dirty the person im doing this for really wants the HTC widgets back so im looking and getting a good feel about the xtrsense5.0.1 rom but the only thing im not sure of is wiping sd ext partition is that something i need to do or is that only if im planning on using the app2sd im alil lost about that part and the whole partition process id ask there but not enough posting yet to do so the recovery is the RA-eris-v1.6.2 so there i should b good to go thanks for any and all info out there
Recently got Vibrant its rooted and flashed to Trigger but i'm inclined towards SimpleHoney since its a new phone none of my contacts or any useful data is there so do i need to back up ? I know i need to move to Stock Eclair but is the Titanium backup necessary ?? Or do you guys think i should stay with Trigger ?
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Recently got Vibrant its rooted and flashed to Trigger but i'm inclined towards SimpleHoney since its a new phone none of my contacts or any useful data is there so do i need to back up ? I know i need to move to Stock Eclair but is the Titanium backup necessary ?? Or do you guys think i should stay with Trigger ?
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How familiar are with rooting and flashing? For now maybe you might want to stick with trigger. Either way check out this thread it has a lot of good info. Not sure what your phone has for apps if none you can get tb of the market if your new rom doesn't have it. Do you know how to do a nandroid backup?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028
I haven't done any flashing yet nor backup have gone through the manuals and it seems pretty straight forward my only concern is do i need to care of nandroid backup even if i dont care of data since its a new phone ?
Nandroids not gonna help you if you move to different firmware. If your running 2.3 and you try to restore a 2.2 or 2.1 nandroid then its not gonna werk. Still its always a good idea to backup just in case. Honestly I'd just start fresh, its YOUR phone now and we all have our own preferences.
Save contacts to gmail, thats really my only tip. Good luck!
Don't worry about TiBackup....WORRY about making nandroid back-ups. Nothing is worse than being new to this and borking something and NOT having a solid back-up to flash to.
Why should i be even worrying about Nandroid backup since i dont have any data or contacts in it ? (That's what i'm trying to understand) And yes its stock was Eclair so i need to move to that then flash with Simple Honey.
Also i see in Simple Honey thread it says its for experienced user , does it mean i should avoid as if now ? and do it after i have flashed 2-3 times
Doing a back up would not be necessary ...if your going from 2.2 to 2.3 .. just read the op carefully ... its pretty simple
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Thanks i'm looking to move to Simple Honey
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