I'm running the DCD WM6.1 ROM for my Mogul along with SPB Pocket Plus 4.0.2.
I've noticed that often the device hangs after a reboot while loading the plugins if I have Pocket Plus enabled.
However, if I use the SPB Mobile Shell 2.0 plugin, which allows you to embed today plugins into tabs but not shortcuts and embed the Pocket Plus plugin into the Mobile Shell plugin, it works fine. (Sorry that sentence seems a little confusing.)
Anyone else have problems with Pocket Plus? Do you have any work arounds? I read something about applications all starting at the same time can result in problems but I couldn't find a way to delay the startup of a Today plugin...
I'd just use Mobile Shell but you can't put shortcuts into it's tabs other than "Home."
I have WM 6.1 & Pocket Plus 4.0.2 as well & run it with no problems. I integrate a lot of the Mobile Shell plugins into the Pocket plus tabs with no problems. DO you have the same problem when you run Pocket plus with the default tabs, i.e., no extra plugins running?
no problems
I have no problems with PP. Is it installed on the phone not the card?
I as well have the 6.1 + Pocket Plus 4.0.2, and I have had problems. Something is just not right. Usually, after a soft reset, it does hang. Takes just about 5 resets till it comes back. But, fortunate for me, I play around with a lot of different programs and have found these facts: 1) If Pocket Plus 4.0.2 is installed on the today screen, it would therefore be in the start up folder. And this is where the problem is. 2) But, if it is installed into another program that plays well with startup then, Pocket Plus is not the initial startup program and all works! So, as stated, SPB Mobile Shell is an excellent fix. But, I personally use Ultimate Launch. That program is the $*it! If your not willing or don't want neither programs this, I'm afraid will always happen. Maybe it's something with the rom or perhaps, Pocket Plus but, never the less it's there but, can be avoided.
yeah, i have the same issue, it keeps part of the green wm6.1 spash and the pp plugin is non responsive, if i let it sit it will lock up the entire device, if i hit the start menu key and launch something from there liek file explorer then close it right away its fine
In startup not the problem
I have alsways have Pocket plus in my startup. It is the core of my Home screen. It loads with no problems at all. There must be something else interfering as that is not the problem.
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I have alsways have Pocket plus in my startup. It is the core of my Home screen. It loads with no problems at all. There must be something else interfering as that is not the problem.
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ive only had the problem with wm6.1, are you running 6.0 or 6.1?
6.1
I am running 6.1 Professional.
With which kitchen did you compile your 6.1 rom?
Hmmm... I have personally had this problem since gettin the DCD 6.1 kitchen with Pocket Plus. And so have many others. I can not possibly see how your not having the same exact issue unless you are cooking in a different kitchen or someone else compiled the rom (using a different kitchen).
kitchen
Flashed mine a while ago, but I am fairly sure that it was Randomize. It is called Storm 2.1
Related
(Not sure if this is the correct forum tbh).
Anyone know of a utility which I could install on my M2K which will place a small icon at the bottom of the "Today" screen that will automatically flip the screen back and forth between Portrait and Landscape??
A work colleague who has the 02 version of the phone has just this utility - is it an 02 "special item"?
There are a number of today plug ins that help.
The best I have found which includes lots of other useful stuff is SPB Pocket Plus. Whilst it is commercial software it is well worth the asking price. You can download a trial version from Hangango or Pocketgear.com
Good luck
These utility programs were packaged by SIN for use with the XDAii 2003SE update. Together they may do what you wanted:
Rotate Screen Utility
http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=2911
Tray Launch Utility
http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=2916
See here for further details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=16916&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=25
Spb Pocket Plus
I recently installed the trial version of spb Pocket Plus and am suitably impressed. One small problem though. If I try and change the settings (options) I can't exit. I can still move around and go to different settings screens but can't go back with the OK button or exit settings. Have to exit with a soft reset and even then won't reboot beyond the background screen (Qtek 9090 logo) without a further soft reset or two. Any similar experiences or better still ideas to sort ?
I have an O2 xda IIs and have the same screen freeze problems with Pocket Plus. Looking through the FAQ on the SPB web site, I came across a response that said in the XDAIIs there is a frreing problem that SPB put down to the way O2 implemented WM2003SE. Given that you are seeing the same problem on the Qtek 9090, leads me to believe that it may be an HTC/WM2003SE Phone Edition problem....
There is however another product that offers very similar functionality. Its Battery Pack Pro form Omega One and available at Handango. I have just sent Omega One a support question to see if they know of any issues with their software and the XDA IIs. If they say "no", I will uninstall Pocket Plus and try the trial of Battery Pack Pro to see if its more stable. Will post here with more info when I have it...
Since removing SPB Pocket Plus I've had a similar locking/no exit experience when playing around with backgrounds and wallpaper. Can't make it happen today though (not that I want it to !!!).
Battery Pack Pro
I haven't had the freezing problem yet on the MDA III.
However I had to move from Battery Pack Pro as when I installed it for some reason the calendar and contact button mapping went awry.
The issue was odd in that the buttons would work when you initially pushed them but you could not repeatedly press them to scroll through the different calendar/contact views. A feature which I use frequently.
My advice is to tread carefully and try it out carefully before buying. Good product though if it has no side effects.
J
Anyone here who stick and use WM2005 and no any plan of reverting it back to 2003se? i need your opinion why do you want stick with 2005 instead of se.
Becouse some of you dont have problems running 2005 some have and i have.
Well its my first ever post on here tho ive bben lurking for a year or so.ive done all the upgrades over the last year for the XDAII and i got to say the recent WM2005 O2 version found on here is perfect.
however like all new os'S there is alway going to be something that wont work correct.but this version of WM2005 is very good,for the first time ive got MSN,OUTLOOK EMAIL,O2 EMAIL,SMS,MMS all fully working without any glitches through my mobile phone isp O2-UK.
I had patiently waited for someone to crack the RAM problem and now they have id say go for it.
one tip put the HimaClearJumpCode file from a previous rom in the same directory b4 upgrading it saves having to configure it to in bootloader screen.basically just click your mouse and following the onscreen instructions!.
brian
I am currently using Wm2003se2.2.0.7WWE I think it is, but since it was translated from Chinese, there are a few bits that don't look right, but other than that, it's fast, supports handsfree, and is the most stable 2003se ROM I have tried out of about 3 so far.
I am very tempted to try 2005, I even downloaded it yesterday in case I feel adventurous later.
I have AS4 running on my PC already, and although avantgo doesn't work, it seems much faster.
But since you are so happy with it on a UK network, I may well give it a try later on today after some meetings are out of the way, and I have some time to kill.
I installed WM5.0 a week ago and I already know that I won't be looking back to old OSes.
It's simply the best ever (I've been using Pocket PC since 2000) so I know what I'm talking about.
I can live with the few incompatibility problems I have encountered because I know they will be fixed soon by the talented people of XDA-Developers.com. They always do.
At first I installed WM5.0 to "test it" and to see what was all the "Buzz" about... (got that? hehehe)
But since that day, I noticed how quickly Buzz, Toe, JoJo and the gang fixes the "problems" so I more o less feel complete.
The overall performance of the PDA and the Phone is impresive!
The only thing I miss from previous versions is the Video Capture quality. This one simply sucks, but I'm confident that the gang will fix this soon!
P.S.- Again, I would like to thank Buzz, Toe, JoJo, mamiach and the rest of talented people for this marvelous release!
Best regards,
Rayan
OK, so far, I love it, but there are a couple of things that are proving to be a pain for me.
1) I can't install TomTom 3, need to find some GPS software that will work by the end of this week if I am going to keep 2005 on this device.
2) I don't know if my Socket BT GPS works because I have no GPS software to test it with.
Anyone got any suggestions for UK GOS software that works?
I'm sticking with WM2005
Since I installed it I have noticed the following benifits:
Performance is noticeably improved over any 2003/2003se roms I've run.
The anoying tendency to have both the BlueTooth Headset and the built-in speaker/microphone live during a call has been resolved.
My Frogpad BT keyboard is also natively supported. Overall a great experience!
The only problem I have encountered is the tendency of the MSN messenger piece to behave oddly. It'll sign on, get presence information for people, then when I try to start a conversation it will give me the conversation screen then take about 60 seconds while it claims it is 'connecting' In addition on occasion it will come back and state that a IM could not be delivered, but if I copy and paste it back in it works. It also has decided to put my e-mail attachments on the NAND partition rather than the SD partition.
I brought these issues up with my Microsoft TAM yesterday and he laughed.... Perhaps I should not have phrased it as 'Do you think it would be OK for me to open a ticket for my non-release beta copy of WM2005 that I got over the internet?'
Robert Harrold
I-Mate Pocket PC (AKA XDA II)
Rom Version 1.50f.b WWE
Radio version 1.18.00
Installed programs:
Microsoft Reader
Adobe Reader for Pocket PC 2.0
OK, I love this, and I would really like to keep it, but, my Stowaway XT keyboard doesn't want to work either. I know it's only a driver issue, but it's still an issue for me.
I haven't even tried the VGA backpack yet :/
after all the xda is working for my every-day needs i will stay with buzzmobile 2005
I have used the wm2005, but the big thing that bothers me is that xbackup and spb pocketplus doesn't work. (battery indicator bar at the top, I love it! I first though it was some kind of bug, but now I never want any other battery level indicator.
For tomtom3 i'm using tomtom 4.40 now (works also with wm2005).
But there is nothing more worse then a sudden hard reset, and you can't restore any contacts because xbackup doesnt work.
Also I tried almost all of the roms here, and in my opinion the diamondrom 1.2 is the best complete and stable rom around here.
As long as xbackup isnt fixed on wm2005 i can't use it. Don't want to install all kinds of backup and restore programs. After a hard reset start xbackup and make a call.
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But there is nothing more worse then a sudden hard reset, and you can't restore any contacts because xbackup doesnt work.
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As long as xbackup isnt fixed on wm2005 i can't use it. Don't want to install all kinds of backup and restore programs. After a hard reset start xbackup and make a call.
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What are you talking about?
Isn't persistant memory one of Windows Mobile 5.0 main features?
I have performed a couple of Hard Resets on purpose just to see if the whole system survives and let me tell you that it works flawlessly.
I can live without Sprite Backup for the time being!!!.... :lol:
I successfully upgraded to WM2005 but am unable to get the hardreset to work (the key sequence I am using is power button + record button + camera button + soft reset hole, all at the same time). I have verified that each of these buttons works individually. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
Also, when my xda is off, there is sometimes a pattern of faint black vertical lines on the screen which disappear when its turned on. I hadn't seen them before I upgraded to 2005.
Any help would be appreciated!
re WM2005
I found the hard reset combination quite tricky to do, took me a few tries to do it. Just hold the camera and record buttons very firmly, press the the power button and also stick the stylus in the reset hole. Keep holding the buttons for 3 seconds after you've felt the stylus nudge the reset button.
I'm using WM2005 and have found ActiveSync using GPRS to be a little less reliable than before. I have had to soft-reset 2x in the last 24hours to get GPRS working. It simply fails to connect when requested and says cannot find www.vodafone.net.nz (the APN for Vodafone NZ). When I reset it works beautifully.
Also it seems to me to be slightly slower than 2003SE. I don't know if it's the extra animations making it *appear* slower but it does feel less reponsive. Particularly opening messages and moving them. I was using 2003SE 2.06 and then 2.20-translated prior.
However, the extra ease of use that 2005 gives makes up for this by being more productive with the time I do spend on the device.
SPB Pocket Plus definitely does not work as I'd like it to and I miss the battery meter on the top bar, plus the multiple IE windows. The IE browser is much better on 2005 though and is quicker overall.
It works great with my Bluetrek G2 headset, no change in audio quality over 2003SE.
The Pocket MSN integration with Hotmail, MSN etc is amazing and very well done. If you use Hotmail and/or MSN Messenger a lot you'll love 2005.
I'm just doing some testing to see if Intellipad is losing my predictive text words. It seems like every time I soft-reset the words I manually added disappear
Intellidialer is a big loss too which I really miss. Can't wait for the 2005 port.
All in all, a good OS and major improvements, but yep a little buggy still. I'd recommend it if you don't mind soft resetting often and living with a few quirks, for the sake of improved useability and a better (in most places) interface.
My record + camera buttons don't work either in 2005 btw.
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Forgot to mention -- RemotelyAnywhere doesn't work with Remote control either.
The ActiveX control that is designed for PocketPCs only works on PPC2002 or 2003, not 2005.
If you need to remotely control a PC or server then you will be stuck.
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Also, when my xda is off, there is sometimes a pattern of faint black vertical lines on the screen which disappear when its turned on. I hadn't seen them before I upgraded to 2005.
Any help would be appreciated!
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Yeah! I noticed the lines today... Any other people with the same artifacts on the screen? :?:
Been using Buz-an-Co mobile 2005 for a while now, absolutely no intention of removing at all. Fair enough somethings dont work, but on the whole, its more stable, i find it faster, BT works the way its ment to, and it looks just so cool! i sync my contacts in outlook and store all my data on the Rom OR SD-Card so i'll never actualy lose anything of importance..... AND and by far the most important reason......I can give me mates with the XDA IIi the two fingers! ahh u may have wifi but u cant get 2005 working!! )
My only serious gripe is MSN messanger not working (fixed by using Agile messanger) and Tomtom 3's total refusal to install. (on that note i was able to start the install process and just before it crashes find the cab files in a temp directory and install them manually, it installed but when you run it, it comes up with "voice files not installed, blar blar" then the program runs for a second before crashing to desktop.)
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Also, when my xda is off, there is sometimes a pattern of faint black vertical lines on the screen which disappear when its turned on. I hadn't seen them before I upgraded to 2005.
Any help would be appreciated!
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Yeah! I noticed the lines today... Any other people with the same artifacts on the screen? :?:
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Yup, occasionally
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Been using Buz-an-Co mobile 2005 for a while now, absolutely no intention of removing at all. Fair enough somethings dont work, but on the whole, its more stable, i find it faster, BT works the way its ment to, and it looks just so cool! i sync my contacts in outlook and store all my data on the Rom OR SD-Card so i'll never actualy lose anything of importance..... AND and by far the most important reason......I can give me mates with the XDA IIi the two fingers! ahh u may have wifi but u cant get 2005 working!! )
My only serious gripe is MSN messanger not working (fixed by using Agile messanger) and Tomtom 3's total refusal to install. (on that note i was able to start the install process and just before it crashes find the cab files in a temp directory and install them manually, it installed but when you run it, it comes up with "voice files not installed, blar blar" then the program runs for a second before crashing to desktop.)
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Agile messenger works a treat on WM2005, and you can connect to MSN, AOL, ICQ etc...
Apparently WM2005 is smartphone compatible, so you could try TomTom mobile, I've heard it works, but the touch-screen doesn't (as it's built for phones). Haven't tried it myself though.
I will also not go back to 2003SE.
I'm using the full version since Saturday and I have no issues at all. All my buttons work. OK, once in a while the XDA freezes and I need a softreset, but that's more likely from the applications I installed which are maybe not 100% Magneto compatible. Also, I'm still trying to get the USB syncing to work. So far I sync via bluetooth.
I love that Contacts syncs the picture from Outlook on the PC. Much better than all the picture-caller ID software.
But really best of all: I don't have to be scared of hardresets anymore and I can use the XDAII until the battery is down.
I was thinking about buying the Mini or maybe the XDA IV when it comes out later this year. But I have decided to continue using my XDAII since it is just great with Magneto.
Cheers
Pat
I am interested to see why people think that they don't have to be scared of hard resets?
The Himalaya does *not* support persistant storage, unless you choose to save something to the flash rom, or SD card, you *will* lose it after a hard reset.
The OS does not give you the safety of the new features, that's still a hardware issue, so don't think you have persistant storage because the OS supports it.
WM2005
Hi,
I have installed WM2005 and fall back to WM2003SE twice.
1st: the chinese software CEstar cause the touch screen to hang (no respond) when I install it. Reinstall the WM2005 still face the same problem, so 1st fall back to WM2003SE.
2nd: After installing the WM2005, my Spectec SDIO wifi don't seem to be able to have the transmitter on. Able to see network available but cannot connect. Tried reinstall the driver but no result. Waiting for Spectec to reply regards to the driver. So 2nd fall back to WM2003SE.
Ric
but it does support a form of persistant storage as in permenent save / storage on the old roms
not really enough though.......
and if the persistant storage of newer devices save the data in flash then could it not be troublesome in the long run since flash have a limited times you can write on it before it goes belly up
much like a cd-rw or dvd-rw disc
What are some of the applications that you use frequently and without them your life would simply stop to be...
For me the most frequent applications I can't do without are:
MS Voice Commander - Whenever on the road this one has saved my life countless times.
SBSH Pocket Weather with VGA Icons, Awesome options allow me to configure this little thing to auto-download live radar maps so I know whenever there is a storm approaching etc.
Without those above apps I would simply be lost.
What apps would you not be able to do without?
bublebreaker....
Unless there is a very recent update the last time I tried to install sbsh pocket weather on a 6.1 rom it did not install. Anyone else had that problem? I am sure however that this will be resolved shortly.
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Unless there is a very recent update the last time I tried to install sbsh pocket weather on a 6.1 rom it did not install. Anyone else had that problem? I am sure however that this will be resolved shortly.
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I have no problem running SBSH Pocket weather on any 6.1 rom. I have it on my Athena running the WM6.1 rom ( i believe the XIP of this rom is WM6 though) I also have it running on my Kaiser, currently running a dutty rom, but have had no other problems running several Kaiser 6.1 rom... DId have a few minor issues running SPB Weather on 6.1
I*e never used that program. Is it freeware? If so anyone have a link? I'm currently using Radar Watch 2, nothing fancy, but get\ the job done. Its free, google it.
Flexmail, the beta of version 4 is very nice
Memory-map use it at work
opera/opera mini/netfront
logmein
I am not too sure
but I think I will vote for logmein, this allows me to do remote access of my desktop so I can use all the usual softwares there.
realVGA, that's an absolute must.
I think I depend a lot on Pocket Informant 2008
Adobe PDF LE
Softmaker: Text and Plan
Weatherpanel is the next best thing as well. Where i live, the weather is very emotional....Its good have an app that is sensitive!
MemMaid worth every cent they charge for it!!
PocketXpdf http://pocketxpdf.sourceforge.net/ is the best pdf viewer/reader and is freeware
PocketMind is great for organizing notes
Egress rss reader seems to be the most customizable
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bublebreaker....
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YEAH !! me too
wouldnt be the same without it :8
also LogMeIn, and realvga is a must.
but number one program for me, Mobipocket Ebook reader
Must haves
PhoneWeaver -> nessecary for switchig profiles automaticaly based on calender, time, etc.
Pocket Informant -> Pocket Outlook is unusable.
SPB Mobile shell 2.0 -> Easy way to use device and access your programs.
Cyberon -> for handsfree use of your little phone.
Memmaid -> for periodicaly cleaning up Microsofts mess in your phone.
QAN
I’ve Mobile Invoice in Athena, lately discovered only CooTek Cooperation TouchPal (VGA) works wonderful well together.
Pocket Informant save me the trouble to change from task to appointment and visa versa.
MemMaid and Spb Traveler, both are super aid to me.
hi, i have had the verizon xv6800 now for over 2 weeks. i have flashed this about 30 times. trying to find the best rom to cook. what do you all think is the best rom to cook i the kitchen for this phone please.
thanks
If this helps..
I'm running DCD 3.2.0 Radio 3.42.02 on my Verizon XV6800
I have no issues.. Had it since the day it was released.. (maybe 3 weeks or so?) the biggest issue I'm aware of is HTC Xbutton has a problem.. But I don’t use that. I test GPS locks regularly, and regularly lock under 10 seconds. I have one location that I can’t seem to get a lock easily (at work).. but that’s it so far.
I would recommend reading through all the posts on DCD 3.2.2 and see what issues (if any) users are having. Most of the user issues are due to the user doing something wrong, and DCD or GC will generally jump in and confirm if it's a rom issue... so read all the posts.
The only reason I haven’t upgraded to 3.2.2 is that The list of changes from 3.2.0 were not compelling enough to re-install all my applications and settings.
Here is the software I run.. and All works great under 3.2.0 (and I will go out on a limb and say it will all work on 3.2.2 most likely)
Software I have installed that works fine.
Wisbar Advance 3.1.5 (clear reflections skin)
DCD QuickGPS
Skunkworks Flash video Bundle
HTC Streaming Media
Google Maps
Palringo
SPB Mobile Phone suite (newest?)
SPB Mobile Shell 2.x (Newest?)
Resco Keyboard Pro 5.x
Resco Explorer 2008 (with Reg and FTP add-in)
dinarsoft Memmaid (newest?)
CoreCodec Coreplayer (newest?)
Vito Funcontact
HandMark Yahtzee
iNav iguidance (this has issues.. but it's common in WM6.1.. and fixable I guess)
MS Reader
Arcsoft MMS 5.0.31.19
Skype
Zimmerman Pocket hosts.
how do i get the battery icon to show up in the taskbar like it did in wm 5.0 since installing 6.1 i have yet to get it to show up
i still think 3.0.4 is the best rom
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Why?
I never used that one... Why would you say it is better?
ive lightly tried some newer roms, and never liked them as much as 3.0.4, to the point that i don't even bother testing anymore. GPS locks INSTANTLY every time, the phone runs smoothly (sometimes a little low on memory), everything works perfectly. i'm just so happy with how my phone is running that i dont have any desire to change. GPS is kinda my main priority, and i'm blown away by how well it works. so im set =) i was actually thinking today about picking up another 6800 just so i could test new roms, though.
just curious if anyone switched back to WM6.5 after trying android on HD2 ? any particular reasons ?
After being an exclusive Windows Mobile user from the Pocket PC days in 2001, I tried Android on my HTC HD2 with great fear and trepidation. After 2 months i am VERY satisfied with Android and can't imagine ever going back.
Good luck with your decision.
never left WM, just run android on SD card
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I only tried one rom, it didn't work that well, and I hated not being able to customise it how I liked.
I absolutley hate sense/titanium/spb mobile shell... none of them work as well as my setup, I have my phone doing exactly what I want, when I want, and everything I use or need to see at all times is on my today screen. No other UI can currently give me that.
Every OS upgrade has brought less usability at the expense of 'looking nice', I hate having to go through multiple screens to do something as simple as turn on bluetooth and start a media player, one click for me and it's done. Same for many things.
I tried American Android on my HTC HD2. Battery life on all android sucks, so I am back on WM6.5. I am very sad Microsoft switched to WP7 after 6.5 is so cool.
Android must take care of battery management before releasing OS as now it just ruins the pleasure of Android OS. My WinMo6.5 lasts more than 4 days on one charge. I wanna see Android doing this
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I only tried one rom, it didn't work that well, and I hated not being able to customise it how I liked.
I absolutley hate sense/titanium/spb mobile shell... none of them work as well as my setup, I have my phone doing exactly what I want, when I want, and everything I use or need to see at all times is on my today screen. No other UI can currently give me that.
Every OS upgrade has brought less usability at the expense of 'looking nice', I hate having to go through multiple screens to do something as simple as turn on bluetooth and start a media player, one click for me and it's done. Same for many things.
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I particularly like Spb Mobile Shell. But if you've got something that works better for you than it does, I'd be interested to know what that might be. Can you tell me what makes your WinMo 6.x work so well for you?
FWIW I've never tried Android and don't anticipate doing so for quite awhile. Same for Windows Phone. I have too much invested in Windows Mobile Apps to move off it, especially since they do what I need them to do so well.
I came from using the original HTC Touch for nearly 4 years with WM6.5 and promptly went to try Android when I first got my HD2. The 2 most important thing to me on my phone is the email client and the web browsing. I couldn't get used to the native email app or K9 in Android and came back to WM6.5 for about a week.
I then took the dive to go to WP7 Mango and I love the email integration there. The web browsing is not very nice and Microsoft pushing the use of Bing is very frustrating, but the browser itself is decent. So while the battery life is absolutely horrible in WP7, it can still get me through the day on light usage.
So, I tried coming back to WM6.5 but there certainly are many things to like about the current generation operating systems. WM6.5 just feels sluggish comparatively because everything seems several more clicks away for me. There are various things I miss though. Apps I had purchased are a big one, but I can live without it for now. The other is the task manager. The automatic task management concept is a nice idea in Android but I like quick access and control over it (something ICS possibly has addressed). WP7 its not an issue for now because non-native apps don't run in the background.
Overall, I think you at least owe yourself to try Android since it can run alongside WM6.5. Give it a real shot because there are only going to be more and more things that are available to current gen OS that won't be ported to WM6.5
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I particularly like Spb Mobile Shell. But if you've got something that works better for you than it does, I'd be interested to know what that might be. Can you tell me what makes your WinMo 6.x work so well for you?
FWIW I've never tried Android and don't anticipate doing so for quite awhile. Same for Windows Phone. I have too much invested in Windows Mobile Apps to move off it, especially since they do what I need them to do so well.
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I guess that to me the essence of these new OS, and SPB Mobile Shell is that it puts form over function, to perform any action with those requires a lot more effort than it does with how I've set my phone up, it also seems to work slower.
For a start, I have on my Today Screen the things which I want to use or see most often. SPB Diary, easy today launcher, and alarmToday. I also use wkTask task manager for the tabs. My two soft keys are also customised, one runs WM5NewMenu (which is also run by long hold of the send key), the other runs a script I made with mortscript which closes all open programs, and resets the system settings to my default preferences, such as screen orientation and brightness.
In my WM5NewMenu popup menu, I have shortcuts to all the other things I use most frequently, such as messaging, not to open my inbox, but to open a text or email with the person I'm sending it to pre-defined. So for example if I want to text my wife, it's only 3 clicks from any screen. Note that WM5NewMenu is as quick as pressing right click with your mouse on your desktop, and each submenu is just as quick. I also backup my PIM data every day automatically have a script which sends it via email to myself, so if I have lose my phone or have to hard reset and my storage card get corrupted (or any other worst case scenario) I'll never be without the information I really need.
I also have google mobile in the launch menu, a couple of scripts to start/stop my media player, which will turn on bluetooth, allow me to connect my headset, then set the volume to maximum, offer a playlist selection and then lock the screen etc.
There are quick links to toggle WiFi and BlueTooth and start menu (the hardware buttons are too low for one handed use). I have one which opens my file explorer (apparently missing on WM7) to my IE favourites folder, and after I pick one it will close the file explorer again.
My lock screen is customised with the slider exactly where I find it the most comfortable to use, and the message is my phone number, in a different font, so I can show people easily when they ask and I've forgotten it.
A few other things without dragging on forever -
A Script which programs my work schedule into my diary with as little as 2 clicks for each day's work.
And I don't profess anything but a superficail knowledge of other OS, but the ability to use the same .LNKs and parameters as on my PC is extremely useful. For example, I can make a .LNK to the messaging .EXE, and include any or all of the following, To, CC, BCC, Subject, Content, and attatchments. Examples of use can be if you text the same thing each day, like 'I'm on my way home' would take a maximum of four clicks to send from any screen.
A coreplayer link which also sets the sreen brightness to max.
A lot of my .LNKs have different icons to the default program's
I've removed as much of the HTC customisations as I could find out how to, such as the HTC messaging.
I have a basic keylogging system in place (not a true keylogger, but it logs every time I use any program) so I can check when I did things. This sounds really anal or obsessive but, for example, it's usefull for when I take a break at work and forget when I started my lunch hour, I can just check what time I turned my phone on.
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Gastaroll said:
I tried American Android on my HTC HD2. Battery life on all android sucks, so I am back on WM6.5. I am very sad Microsoft switched to WP7 after 6.5 is so cool.
Android must take care of battery management before releasing OS as now it just ruins the pleasure of Android OS. My WinMo6.5 lasts more than 4 days on one charge. I wanna see Android doing this
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I have an external battery charger and have often managed to deplete one battery before the other has been charged, but this is while watching a film with a bluetooth headset and the screen brightness at maximum.
Tried Android on HD2 & native device, HD2 soon went back to WM6.5.3 because:
-Better battery life & charging control
-Customization of WM is unbeatable
-Every icon, position, text, background can be what I want
-Fast access to all daily tasks (wifi,tethering,BT,SIM switching,email) all handled within 1 or 2 touches & all status easily viewable
-Better Asian language support
-Better Language suite applications
-Better Office applications
-Excellent Video & music players.
-OS file system is easily handled & integrates & shares better with my Notebook files.
-Stability of my WM custom rom is faultless & backup/contact/file integration to Windows applications I use are not wanting replacing due to cost & time of setup.
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A coreplayer link which also sets the sreen brightness to max.
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How do you do that? I haven't checked, but does Coreplayer have command line options that will allow you to start with max screen brightness?
Tref said:
How do you do that? I haven't checked, but does Coreplayer have command line options that will allow you to start with max screen brightness?
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mortscript.
I thought that might be it. I haven't messed with mortscript for a couple of phones now. I once wrote a long script I used to report on calls, minutes and data, but it's been awhile.
Thanks
u can always boot Android from SD card and be certain that it won't mess up your WM...i've successfully ported gingerbread, froyo, honeycomb and ics on my HD2 and i'm very satisfied...have fun!
though, NAND versions are faster, more stable and have better development
no , but we wish that we can boot wm6.5 from nand / dual boot winmo and android like wph7 and android in that way maybe we boot winmo because i miss some apps there
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When I able to do this from my HD2 on android will switch on it until then wm 6.5 is my love hehe. Stupid microsoft and metro sh...t!!!!!!!!
Do not want to miss my tethered sync with Outlook
rabilancia said:
After being an exclusive Windows Mobile user from the Pocket PC days in 2001, I tried Android on my HTC HD2 with great fear and trepidation. After 2 months i am VERY satisfied with Android and can't imagine ever going back.
Good luck with your decision.
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I keep with WinMo6.5 because I want to do everything locally. I just don't like the buzz about putting everything on third party servers and airtime communications.
My mails are on my own servers and those of my company. When I sync my mails& contacts I use only my own electrons flowing through my private USB cables.
Neither Apple, nor Google, nor Microsoft need to know what I am doing, who i have as contacts and where I curently am located.
Additionally I am traveling frequently abroad and don't want to pay horrid sums per MByte on roaming fees.
I don't like androids behavior to start applications without asking me and there is no way to stop that, so I will keep using WM. Suck it android!
Yes and No
I got my phone in July 2010 and loved it. Battery life was bad and a lot of tweaks had to be done (thanks XDA). I got the courage to flash a custom WinMo rom by November 2010. Heard so many things about Android and tried it in 2011 and hated it. It was still shabby with Gingerbread and I missed Microsoft Office on the phone and exchange services. I ran back to WinMo after some days and didn't look back.
The world seemed to pass by and with no interest in Winmo, app development ceased (except here). WP7/7.5/8 just looked like a giant leap backwards and never tickled my fancy. Blackberry was a no. Iphone seemed overpriced. Ubuntu not out yet. That left Android, the most like the WinMo we all love. I don't like being stuck in the past, and my phone will be changed as soon as I see a decent one. The great phones now are all android. Why not seize the opportunity the HD2 afforded us to try everything?
Feb 2013, I flashed Android on NAND with Jelly Bean 4.1.2. It really has matured as an OS and I found out the best things about my Winmo UI are almost all incorporated into the ROM without much modding/tweaking. Since then, I have been happy with the phone. It can once again do things 95% percent of phones can't do. Battery life is still bad, thanks to Google syncing the lives of millions needlessly.
I really prefer avoiding storing personal information on Google servers like someone noted. There should always be options for offline methods as a backup. Maybe I am getting old and should follow the trend?
This ended up quite long, but bottom line is Android on my HD2 is a necessary step in the evolution of technology for me. Thank you and God bless.