What is the difference in custom roms compared to stock. I've been reading about it but the only thing i saw is the gps feature, there is no more applications is there?
Also I just ordered mine, can't you now us gps stock?
And what are the differences in different types of custom firmware?
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Hi, I cooked my own ROM using "osKitchen v1.25". I started initially by removing extraneous files such as the sample media and photos as well as some wallpaper etc. The final cooked ROM worked perfectly however, I noticed that my cooked ROM seems less fast and less responsive than the stock ROM even though is entirely based on it.
I experimented to make sure that I wasn't being paranoid so I flashed back T-Mobile's stock ROM and confirmed this. I did not, however, use any kind of benchmarking tools so it is not strictly scientific but I am confident that it is slower.
Since experimenting with minor modifications like removing extraneous files, I have made a lot of modifications to my ROM that I cannot go back to T-Mobile's ROM but I was wondering if there is something in the kitchens or some missing optimization that is only available in stock ROMs. I am curious if anyone else has experienced this as well.
Many thanks in advance,
I'm curious about something... there are some nice tutorials and have been some good effort from some devs to add support for custom ROMS for people that flashed the official GB 20g.
My question is, why would anyone update to the official GB just to flash the same ROMs that were already available before?
Is there any advantage? Out of my noobness I can see none, zero... just baseband problems.
drakull said:
I'm curious about something... there are some nice tutorials and have been some good effort from some devs to add support for custom ROMS for people that flashed the official GB 20g.
My question is, why would anyone update to the official GB just to flash the same ROMs that were already available before?
Is there any advantage? Out of my noobness I can see none, zero... just baseband problems.
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Some people just like their stuff to be branded. And people tend to think that official ROMs would be bug-free and more stable than custom ROMs. Its based on personal choices and mostly they would be returning back to the custom ROMs IMO
Well, not everyone even knows about custom roms, nor wants to try them. Some people just want a working phone. But I do have to say that official firmware IS more stable than a custom rom. Of course even official ones have bugs, but you rarely get kernel panics, MAJOR battery drain, lose functions etc with the official ones.
Sometimes the custom kernel is at fault not the custom rom you see.
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Well, not everyone even knows about custom roms, nor wants to try them. Some people just want a working phone. But I do have to say that official firmware IS more stable than a custom rom. Of course even official ones have bugs, but you rarely get kernel panics, MAJOR battery drain, lose functions etc with the official ones.
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I agree with everything you said. I never had more battery life like when I was using stock froyo with franco.kernel. Heavy wi-fi, 3G and GPS always on, moderate gaming, 480/748 OC, a whole bunch of widgets running and about 40 hours of battery life.
Sure custom roms brings lots of advantages like much more overall performance, especially CM7, but they also bring small annoying bugs and, despite everyone saying otherwise, major battery drain. I have tested all custom roms available for O1 and none of then gave more than 12 hours of battery life.
I'm now playing with official GB 20g and franco.kervel since yesterday, let's see how the battery behaves.
Anyway, I understand that DEVs want to give they ROMs support for the new baseband since it will soon be installed on the majority of devices, but my question still unwanswered: Is there any advantages on installing a custom rom over 20g? Will it be more stable or have more performance comparing to installing it over 10x?
Well ever since buying my galaxy s2 I have been flashing different roms.
It's got to the stage where I'm flashing about ten times a day .
Anyway I decided to go back to the stock rom for my carrier and I've found I get better signal, and it seems to be just as smooth as custom roms, and dare I say even less buggy.
So do you guys go for custom roms, or are you happy with stock roms?
And for those that use stock roms do you use unbranded or the carrier stock roms?
Lastly for those on stock roms, do you root or are some of you completely stock untouched.
Thanks
I use MIUI myself. Though I have to say I understand what you're saying. Stock is usually a bit more stable. But all these custom roms are getting more stable with each day. Also I think it would be better if you put up a poll for this type of question
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I use MIUI myself. Though I have to say I understand what you're saying. Stock is usually a bit more stable. But all these custom roms are getting more stable with each day. Also I think it would be better if you put up a poll for this type of question
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I have added a poll
Yeah you're right some of the custom roms are stable enough for everyday use.
But most of them seem to be a work in progress, but obviously that's a good thing as they are constantly improving.
And it's not as though stock roms are perfect.
By the way I don't mean any disrespect to any developers as they are talented and I certainly couldn't do any better.
But the main thing for me is signal, as it's a phone at the end of the day and if I can't make phone calls it's no good.
But even when flashing modems on custom roms I don't get as good a signal as I do on the stock rom for some reason.
MIUI here, best looking android available IMHO.
Stock ROM. I spent sooo long trying different ROMs to get the decent battery life (~1% / hour discharge when idle) that so many people have claimed (and showed) is possible, and finally I've got it with the KF3 firmware, so I'm loathed to touch it again now!
Cognition ROM is the best one available, period
I'm completely stock, with no bugs or problems relating to battery or pink spots or reception, and it's super fast and buttery smooth. Battery lasts me one to two days depending on how I use it, three if it's over a weekend and my 2G etc are off.
I learnt my lesson over custom ROM's on HTC Desire. They didn't add a single thing worth using to the stock ROM, were no faster, and certainly did not improve battery life.
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I'm completely stock, with no bugs or problems relating to battery or pink spots or reception, and it's super fast and buttery smooth. Battery lasts me one to two days depending on how I use it, three if it's over a weekend and my 2G etc are off.
I learnt my lesson over custom ROM's on HTC Desire. They didn't add a single thing worth using to the stock ROM, were no faster, and certainly did not improve battery life.
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No root either I take it?
You said completely stock so I assume no root.
Oh and are you using a generic stock rom or a the carrier branded rom.
Would it be safe to say that generic stock roms are sometimes better than the carrier branded roms?
Especially as some carriers don't release updates often
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No root either I take it?
You said completely stock so I assume no root.
Oh and are you using a generic stock rom or a the carrier branded rom.
Would it be safe to say that generic stock roms are sometimes better than the carrier branded roms?
Especially as some carriers don't release updates often
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Well yes as carrier branded roms may be thought of as custom roms as they have been altered in varying degrees by the carrier .
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I used to flash my Hero a lot but have not rooted my SGS2 as I can flash new firmware over ODIN
and am quiet happy with the 13-21 hours usage I get as per my using the phone on a daily basis and I love overnight charges so am cool
Cognition Rocks
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Cognition ROM is the best one available, period
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I'd have agree Cognition S2 KG6 1.4.1 (have yet to move on to 1.4.2 - happy with my phone as it is) is the fastest and most stable I've found so far. Brilliant battery life and fantastic connection. I dislike the stock apps of official firmware, so always flash a custom rom A.S.A.P. after getting a new phone.
And although not many people any stead in Quadrant i'm getting 4380 after a few initial runs
Hello I know the best custom rom is subjective, but which of the following roms has the most performance tweaks?
It's very difficult to chose from 3 different Roms if they all look almost completely the same. (especially ARHD & wanamlight)
Wanamlight
Android Revolution HD
Omega
Because my phone is still very new, I'm not bored yet of the user interface so I would like to keep the look of the stock rom.
I know Omega has a few visual changes but it won't bother, it mostly looks like the stock rom with only some little visual tweaks.
Which of the above rom's has the most performance tweaks, or is this almost the same?
I expect that they are all stable?
Again I know that the 'best' rom is just personal preference but I'm asking what would be the fastest one, because I have no idea which one to test first.
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Hello I know the best custom rom is subjective, but which of the following roms has the most performance tweaks?
It's very difficult to chose from 3 different Roms if they all look almost completely the same. (especially ARHD & wanamlight)
Wanamlight
Android Revolution HD
Omega
Because my phone is still very new, I'm not bored yet of the user interface so I would like to keep the look of the stock rom.
I know Omega has a few visual changes but it won't bother, it mostly looks like the stock rom with only some little visual tweaks.
Which of the above rom's has the most performance tweaks, or is this almost the same?
I expect that they are all stable?
Again I know that the 'best' rom is just personal preference but I'm asking what would be the fastest one, because I have no idea which one to test first.
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Actually I'm using ARHD, it has a very good battery life and is very smooth. I tried Omega a few days ago but just restored to ARHD as I also prefer stock visual. But as you said, everybody has his own personal preference.
I used wanamlite for quite some time. Very nice rom in combination with boeffla kernel.
I flashed Omega 2 days ago but going back to wanamlite.
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Hello,
I've rooted my XTZ and unlocked the bootloader. I've used TA-Backup to backup my DRM Keys. I'm on the 4.1.2 stock ROM still. I love the tablet interface of this ROM, so I have decided not to upgrade it yet. Based on this, I had a few questions about the custom ROMs I've seen there and what benefit I have in updating at all, or perhaps the cons.
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Are there any custom ROMs that use or have the tablet UI? They don't have to be based on stock ROMs.
Are there any ROMs that have a working IR Blaster?
Can I use any Sony apps in these custom ROMs and if so, where do I get them? I thoughtI saw them in the Apps and Themes forum.
Is there any reason I really need to go to a different ROM than 4.1.2? Speed benefits? Better battery life? Video performance?
What are the main reasons not to use a custom ROM?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
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Hello,
I've rooted my XTZ and unlocked the bootloader. I've used TA-Backup to backup my DRM Keys. I'm on the 4.1.2 stock ROM still. I love the tablet interface of this ROM, so I have decided not to upgrade it yet. Based on this, I had a few questions about the custom ROMs I've seen there and what benefit I have in updating at all, or perhaps the cons.
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If you are happy with the ROM usability and performance I see no reason to meddle with the ROM as it is. Personally I kmow what you mean, even with all the stock Sony apps it is quite a quick runner. I never had issues of lag or slowness. Whatever OEM bloatware is added is honestly not very much bloated, at lewst no comparison to a few years ago when basically your only way to get a lag and nagfree device was switching to a custom ROM. Also many features thought up by the dev community have in some way or another been adopted by the OEMs over time.
Might also be a matter of habit and perception. You see so many threads about this or that ROM develpment, like Cyanogenmod immediately after market release. This also made me try it once and I really disliked. And went back to stock. So, the scramble for custom ROMs for many people is NOT to avoid the crappy unusable stock ROM but rather the fact that they already have grown used to say vanilla Android or CyanMod. And I can totally understand them, I have been buying HTC phones for many years because I was so happy with Sense. To each his own and if you are happy, great.
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Are there any custom ROMs that use or have the tablet UI? They don't have to be based on stock ROMs.
Are there any ROMs that have a working IR Blaster?
Can I use any Sony apps in these custom ROMs and if so, where do I get them? I thoughtI saw them in the Apps and Themes forum.
Is there any reason I really need to go to a different ROM than 4.1.2? Speed benefits? Better battery life? Video performance?
What are the main reasons not to use a custom ROM?
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4. I would take advantage of the official Sony upgrades unless there is something in 4.2.2 you totally hate. Sony has announced to upgrade at least through 4.3 and 4.4 and I will gladly check their stock updates out when they come. Speed benefits might exist, but I think on the negligible side... Maybe measurable with a benchmark but unnoticeable in normsl use. Battery life might be a tad bit better if less stuff runs in tne background, but if some Sony apps or whatnot bother you,much can be turned off under Settings/Apps and whats resilient can be disabled with TiBackup freeze mode. Ask if you need more detailed instructions. I have dumped all the Facebook / Twitter stuff and then some, and while it still is on the tsblet snd in the ROM it is just deactivated and takes no runtime resources.
Thank you, Walter_White. That information was exactly what I was looking for. I'm very satisfied with the performance and layout of 4.1.2. I don't much care for the change they made to the tablet UI in 4.2 so I'll likely wait until 4.3 is released and just upgrade then. My bootloader is unlocked though, so I guess I'll have to use the Sony PC Companion to upgrade and then lose root, unless someone figures that out beforehand.
If someone made an update for a custom ROM that had all my Sony applications and IR functionality, with the tablet UI, I would try it though. I'll also try finding the apps that could cause performance issues like you mentioned.
Again, thanks for this help.