Hi all
I read a few bits on updating the vario 2 to windows mobile 6 Black 3.0.01 is that right ?
Can someone tell me more about what this actually is, I also read the tutorials on about upgrading the.
IPL and the SPL what are these and what is version 2.10 olipro also and the last thing is what does it mean when it talks about CID and not reading it. What effect does this have ???
I know the T Mobile bundled stuff is no use so what functionality will I have with this Black 3.0.1 and is that the best version for me to use or do you recommed a different version ???
Help Please I dont want to brick it.
Ska
skauk said:
Hi all
I read a few bits on updating the vario 2 to windows mobile 6 Black 3.0.01 is that right ?
Can someone tell me more about what this actually is, I also read the tutorials on about upgrading the.
IPL and the SPL what are these and what is version 2.10 olipro also and the last thing is what does it mean when it talks about CID and not reading it. What effect does this have ???
I know the T Mobile bundled stuff is no use so what functionality will I have with this Black 3.0.1 and is that the best version for me to use or do you recommed a different version ???
Help Please I dont want to brick it.
Ska
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Can't believe no-on has said this already... but you need to read the Wiki and do lots of searching / reading through the forum.
It's good that you don't want to brick your device. Research the topic by reading what is already there... no need to ask the same questions again
The WIKI will explain bootloaders and flashing to you. link in the brown bar at the top of the page, it says XDA-Wiki, click it look for the picture of the hermes device and click it. There is a wealth of information there for everyone's use.
As far as what functionality you will have with what rom - read the first post in the rom thread. The cooker will usually have a detailed list of included/removed items from the rom. Only you can decide which rom is the best for you, everyone uses their device differently and as such everyone has different ideas of what a good rom is.
Lastly, if you don't understand anything read before you start to flash. The Hermes isn't as forgiving as other devices when flashing and you could very easily ruin your device if you don't take some standard precautions. The awesome people in this forum have come up with tools to help you recover from just about every form of bricking, but nothing can save you from not having a plan ahead of time.
I suggest after you read the Wiki, that you start with the Olipro Hard-SPL before you flash anything else to your phone. And as always ask yourself why you need to upgrade your device. If the answer isn't substantial and you aren't prepared to lose the device due to a bad flash or just plain bad luck you shouldn't flash. Again if you are prepared ahead of time flashing is relatively safe, but if you jump in without knowing what you should, you risk ruining your device.
hello everyone!
i have bought a HTC Hermes from eBay and hopefully will receive the device soon. As I want to be prepared, when my new toy arrives, I have already started to read thru the Wiki and the Forums! I know, that the experts, which have been posting here for years now, want every beginner to RTFW and to use the search function and so on. What some mebers here don't seem to understand, that such a huge amount of information, which is often unstructured, easily misunderstood and/or simply outdated, is almost impossible to overcome!
personally, i am sure i learned a lot by reading thru xda-devs for sevreal days. but nevertheless, all this different information leaves me just confused and unsecure. seriously, i dont want to take any chances of bricking my pda!
so my appeal is to sum up some basic information regarding flashing & upgrading. and to make sure that i dont make any mistakes i ask all of you to correct me if i am wrong (which i am most likly going to be a couple of times).
ok. lets go!
basically i believe, that since latest developments
( --> "Free HTC Hermes SIM & CID Unlocker *New* version v3a" & --> "Hard-SPL V7"),
almost all Hermes versions can be UNLOCKED & UPGRADED safely, regardless of what bootloader version they are running....
true?
so all I need to upgrade to my phone to the latest versions is
HardSLP, the UNLOCKER and the ROMs I want to install!
true?
using those new tools mentioned above, downgrading to official 1.04 SLP rom versions (?!) to upgrade IS NOT necessary anymore.
true?
if my phone is once prepared with the two tools mentioned above, it is ready to get flashed again and again.... using those tools is a one time thing, which has to be done first time flashing.
true?
i have some questions as well you could help me with!
in what order should I start working?
what are the first steps? (which tool is used first?)
what are the major mistakes i could make to brick my device, even if i use the newest tools...?
i really hope that some people will understand my problems and try help me!
i would really like to contribute to the forums and if this wokrs out as i imagine, it could result in a new and up to date beginners guide!
thanks for reading!
please help!
regards,krz
Personally....
1) unlock as I believe it actually upgrades your SPL to 1.40. This is fine BUT if you've put Hard SPL ver 7 on then you have to run it again.
2) Hard SPL Ver7. You can put version 9 on BUT its for developers & really doesn't help the person who wants to just flash. It also throws up an error message after flashing that can be worrisome. No problem but apparently it needs fixing.
3) Find a rom you like - Only a hermes rom... If you find a rom you like for another Phone and they try to flash this you can be assured of an instant brick. Its like throwing an english speaking person into another country where no english is spoken. BIG TROUBLE... and unlike a person, the phone won't adapt and learn.
Check the forum for a rom you like, I can guarantee there is no "perfect rom" and sooner than later something else will come along that MUST be tried... Start with wm 6 as these are known to be stable and cut your teeth with these before venturing into the deep waters of 6.1. When you're confident flashing and troubleshooting these, then try wm6.1 as some work and research will/may be necessary to get these roms working stable.
4) Have fun....
Cheers...
thank you ultramag69!
unfortuneatly, noone else seems to want to help me here...
well, i'll keep on trying...
i had time for some further reading.
it seems, that I would not necessarily need the HTC Hermes SIM & CID Unlocker, if my phone was NOT simlocked.
instead of that, i could use the latest version of HardSPL to make it SuperCID!
RIGHT OR WRONG?
[btw: what excacty is the difference between SPL & MFG? what is a mfg anyway?]
I found THIS GUIDE while reading the forums.
* Housekeeping
* Flashing HardSPL
* Upgrading the Radio
* Upgrading to ______ WM6
* Programs and Settings
no matter what ROM version, bootloader, radio, etc. my phone is, following this guide would always work!
RIGHT OR WRONG?
if NOT, when wouldn't it?
what exceptions are there?
again, please be so kind and comment on this. i would realy be glad to be absolutely sure in what i am going to have to do!
there is still some insecurity left, please help me to make things a little clearer for me!
thank you in advance!
regards,
krz
Try reading 1st age of this thread.... Guides by MrVanx... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462&page=34
As for Hard SPL, you can flash ANY HERMES rom... DONT TRY TO FLASH ANY OTHER ROMS.... Also, remember always that Hard SPL ISNT a guarantee not to brick your phone, its a safety net to help you when (and if you get to flashing alot) things go splat. It means that fixing a brick is put back into the realms of possibility instead of you now owning a very expensive paperweight. Please remember too that upgrading your radio rom is the riskiest thing to do on your hermes. most bricks come about because the radio rom gets corrupted & CANT be fixed... Hard SPL or no...As the saying goes, "if it aint broke, don't fix it". depending where you are in the world depends on which radio rom is best... research first and dont overflash this. If in Oz then 1.54.30.10 is selected by Testra. Seems to be ok...
Hope this isnt too much for you to digest...
thank you again ultramag!
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Try reading 1st age of this thread.... Guides by MrVanx...
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i have read thru this, thank you.
but what does "reading 1st age of this thread" mean?
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As for Hard SPL, you can flash ANY HERMES rom... DONT TRY TO FLASH ANY OTHER ROMS....
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that's clear. of course i meant any HERMES Roms regardless of version number, etc. ROMs of other devices (eg. Wizard, Kaiser) are of course NOT compatible...
i just wanted to double check, that downgrading to a certain bootloader is not necessary anymore in times of HardSLP v7...?
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Please remember too that upgrading your radio rom is the riskiest thing to do on your hermes. most bricks come about because the radio rom gets corrupted & CANT be fixed... Hard SPL or no...
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i'm curious, why upgrading the radio ROM is that riskiy or some much riskier that upgrading the windows ROM for example. is it only, because it can't be fixed when flashing goes wrong? or is flashing the radio rom more likely to go wrong than flashing WindowsROM ?
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not at all!
keep it coming!
whats "wrong" with my tries to get a RIGHT or WRONG for my assumptions...?
noone seems to feel the need to answer that?
thanks again,
krz
Just the guides... Helped me lotsa times...
Downgrading your SPL from 2.10 isn't the best idea if you are gonna flash a lot a It is a safety net. If you do want to downgrade SPL you can, there is a guide in the wiki.
When the radio rom upgrading goes wrong it seems to be that the memory itself becomes corrupted. There are plenty of "fixes" BUT they seem to work erratically. The os is completely wiped and rewritten and doesn't seem to be affected by these "unrecoverable bad blocks". It can still be screwed up but is more tolerant of errors and can be repaired easily enough using MTTY(do search on wiki).
Read some of the posts about people who've bricked their phone & you'll see that MOST people who cant recover their Hermes have screwed up their radio... ie. phone displays "No GSM". Most can still use the PDA part of the Hermes BUT it won't make calls again so is considered a brick.
Most cooked roms DON'T contain the radio rom.
As for "Yes/No Answers", Yes you are partially right and no, you are partly wrong. Did that clear that up???
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As for "Yes/No Answers", Yes you are partially right and no, you are partly wrong. Did that clear that up???
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totally!
i know that i know nothing!
anyways, thanks for trying. i think it kinda worked....
i flashed the Blue Angel and the Wizard a couple of times without any problems... my PC even crashed once while flashing the wizard.... fortuneatly i could reflash it afterwards..... i thought flashing the HERMES could be more of a hustle... ?
regarding the RADIO ROM: i guess, i will avoid flashing the radio too often!
btw: i am from AUSTRIA, Europe, and I am using the telering/t-mobile network!
recommending me a good RADIO ROM for telering/t-mobile austria would be very much appreciatiaed!
after all, flashing from SD card instead of flashing via an USB connection seems to be recommendeable regarding safety issues! i shall consider that as well!
breaking it down:
1) use HardSPL to upgrade ROMs (instead of downgrading to official SPLs, which are flashable...)
2) dont upgrade the radio too much. find the best one for your provider, flash it once, keep it if it works!
3) safety first! use the SD card for flashing instead of the PC and USB connection.
aight?
krz
Soon grasshopper, you will take over.....answering these questions...
As for radio rom, sorry, but I'm in Australia, ass end of the world where all the crap phones turn up. REALLY happy to find a FANTASTIC phone in the Hermes.....
hello again....
i want to start flashing soon, but there are still some things unclear.
regarding the AKU: i read about AKu in the forums, but i am still not sure about it....
when i upgrade to windows mobile 06 for example, is there a AKU included?
only in official ROMs?
or do i have to upgrade AKUs seperatly?
could anyone at least briefly answer my questions and maybe even try to explain the whole AKU stuff for me again...
would be awesome!
thx in advamce
krz
ps: the more i read in the wiki, the more confused i get... all this outdated information is confusing me more and more... it is really hard to catch up here. specially when all u get is a "gofckyourselfandreadthewiki"-post
KRZTF said:
hello again....
i want to start flashing soon, but there are still some things unclear.
regarding the AKU: i read about AKu in the forums, but i am still not sure about it....
when i upgrade to windows mobile 06 for example, is there a AKU included?
only in official ROMs?
or do i have to upgrade AKUs seperatly?
could anyone at least briefly answer my questions and maybe even try to explain the whole AKU stuff for me again...
would be awesome!
thx in advamce
krz
ps: the more i read in the wiki, the more confused i get... all this outdated information is confusing me more and more... it is really hard to catch up here. specially when all u get is a "gofckyourselfandreadthewiki"-post
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You're just getting information overload, If you searched for "What is AKU" using google you'd have got this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1445514&postcount=1
Just follow Mr Vanx's Guide http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=26 or else http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1186163&postcount=1 from start to end & you should have a successful flash. This link is also very handy for beginners http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1465974&postcount=1
Just remember if you intend to flash one of the WM6.1 Roms, many of the members feel that it is best to flash an official carrier Rom before flashing your selected Rom to prevent H/R issues. Happy Flashing!
is there a rom with ie6 on it for my hermes 200
thanks and happy new year to all
Go to the wm06 part of the forum and look at the specs.... You should also do some research about flashing before you start, use the search function to look for "Hermes rom flashing". Anything from MRVanx is pretty good to read as he has a tutorial for all the things you need to know.
Before ALL else, INSTALL HARD SPL V7.........
Cheers...
thanks
thanks and wot a very cool site and very helpfull people on it must have flashed my about 20 times looking for the right rom to use mite have to start cooking myself thanks to all for the help
20 times, looks like you've just started...
Cheers...
[email protected],
I want to buy a X7500 but before that I want to know something about the custom roms and installation; I will hope somebody could help me.
When I buy a branded version (like T-Mobile) could I unlock the device manually (if there is an SIM-lock)- is it easy?
Is it correct if I install a new SPL I could install the up to date original ROM from HTC (WM 6.0) on a branded device?
There are a lot of ROM here so I couldn't find one for me ...
Can somebody help me - I'm looking for a ROM (WM 6.1) that is very similar to the original ROM from the X7510 and not to much customized... (in german!!).
Many thanks and best Regards SavageDeath
SavageDeath said:
[email protected],
I want to buy a X7500 but before that I want to know something about the custom roms and installation; I will hope somebody could help me.
When I buy a branded version (like T-Mobile) could I unlock the device manually (if there is an SIM-lock)- is it easy?
Is it correct if I install a new SPL I could install the up to date original ROM from HTC (WM 6.0) on a branded device?
There are a lot of ROM here so I couldn't find one for me ...
Can somebody help me - I'm looking for a ROM (WM 6.1) that is very similar to the original ROM from the X7510 and not to much customized... (in german!!).
Many thanks and best Regards SavageDeath
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Hello,
Welcome to the forum.
I think the answer to you in short is once you have unlocked and changed your SPL you can put on nearly any Athena rom you wish.
I give new people to this device such as yourself a link to pages you NEED! to read and UNDERSTAND! once you have it will answer all of the important questions you have. As with all PDA's a lack of understanding and making a mess of things will cause all sorts of problems. Read the WIKI HERE and all will be answered.
Jay
P.S. There is a ROM to suit nearly everyone on here I recon
responderman said:
Hello,
Welcome to the forum.
I think the answer to you in short is once you have unlocked and changed your SPL you can put on nearly any Athena rom you wish.
I give new people to this device such as yourself a link to pages you NEED! to read and UNDERSTAND! once you have it will answer all of the important questions you have. As with all PDA's a lack of understanding and making a mess of things will cause all sorts of problems. Read the WIKI HERE and all will be answered.
Jay
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Thanks a lot for your response!!
I think you're right - I read a lot in this athena forum this week and now I understand much more .
But one question is left all over the ROMS... are the X7500 drivers for the dpad (and VueFLO™) already in WM 6.1 ROMS integrated??? - Is this from ROM to ROM version different??
Best Regards SavageDeath!
VueFlow and all other drivers are working in WM6.1 and then some! such as by just turning the Athena through 90 degrees also turns the screen layout as well in Michy's roms. What do you mean by Dpad? each rom has different idea's in them, but all the hardware works in them all.
Jay
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VueFlow and all other drivers are working in WM6.1 and then some! such as by just turning the Athena through 90 degrees also turns the screen layout as well in Michy's roms. What do you mean by Dpad? each rom has different idea's in them, but all the hardware works in them all.
Jay
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Thanks a lot again !!
Cool all hardware-buttons are fully integrated _ COOL!
Otherwise this means I can use VueFlow to scroll in browser and to turn the screen layout? Is this correct?
Because I think it's better to have the scroll functionality than to turn the screen.
Best Regards SavageDeath
SavageDeath said:
Thanks a lot again !!
Cool all hardware-buttons are fully integrated _ COOL!
Otherwise this means I can use VueFlow to scroll in browser and to turn the screen layout? Is this correct?
Because I think it's better to have the scroll functionality than to turn the screen.
Best Regards SavageDeath
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You can have both on Michy rom, but as he states, it can slow things down.
Getting one then???
Jay
Hello responderman,
thanks for your information!!
And... I bought an athena already but the device wasn't delivered until now ...
I think I have a lot of question more if the device is here .
Best Regards and MANY THANKS,
SavageDeath
I own an HTC Iolite: Touch Cruise 2
I bought 2 months ago and it has on it Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional.
I want to install Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional...
I havent done anything at all to my mobile as far as installing any kinds of roms are concerned...this means that I really need a clear and comprehensive explation-instructions of what to do...
Also tell if I' ll face problems with the new softare and of course do I have to secure all the data???
will everything be lost after the update??
Finally,I would like to ask generally how safe it is and what are the risks
Thanks for your time reading my problem...
I hope somebody experienced will help me
Sure Jim, we will help you on your way.......
Start with reading this thread how to flash a Rom.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678893
And further in this section you find Hard-SPL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552481
Custom RUU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492931 to put a Rom on your phone or depending on the Rom use memory-card method...like in this thread with in my opinion a great Rom....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572713
It is good to make a back-up of your Rom in case you have to return your phone for a repair under guarantee see here how to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492747
Why flash a custom Rom? Rom cookers have made something that offers more than the stock Rom's. And in particular when your phone is older than half a year or so it lacks the latest software...like Windows Mobile 6.5 .....
Happy flashing......and if you have questions please come back....