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Hi all
I read a few bits on updating the vario 2 to windows mobile 6 Black 3.0.01 is that right ?
Can someone tell me more about what this actually is, I also read the tutorials on about upgrading the.
IPL and the SPL what are these and what is version 2.10 olipro also and the last thing is what does it mean when it talks about CID and not reading it. What effect does this have ???
I know the T Mobile bundled stuff is no use so what functionality will I have with this Black 3.0.1 and is that the best version for me to use or do you recommed a different version ???
Help Please I dont want to brick it.
Ska
skauk said:
Hi all
I read a few bits on updating the vario 2 to windows mobile 6 Black 3.0.01 is that right ?
Can someone tell me more about what this actually is, I also read the tutorials on about upgrading the.
IPL and the SPL what are these and what is version 2.10 olipro also and the last thing is what does it mean when it talks about CID and not reading it. What effect does this have ???
I know the T Mobile bundled stuff is no use so what functionality will I have with this Black 3.0.1 and is that the best version for me to use or do you recommed a different version ???
Help Please I dont want to brick it.
Ska
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Can't believe no-on has said this already... but you need to read the Wiki and do lots of searching / reading through the forum.
It's good that you don't want to brick your device. Research the topic by reading what is already there... no need to ask the same questions again
The WIKI will explain bootloaders and flashing to you. link in the brown bar at the top of the page, it says XDA-Wiki, click it look for the picture of the hermes device and click it. There is a wealth of information there for everyone's use.
As far as what functionality you will have with what rom - read the first post in the rom thread. The cooker will usually have a detailed list of included/removed items from the rom. Only you can decide which rom is the best for you, everyone uses their device differently and as such everyone has different ideas of what a good rom is.
Lastly, if you don't understand anything read before you start to flash. The Hermes isn't as forgiving as other devices when flashing and you could very easily ruin your device if you don't take some standard precautions. The awesome people in this forum have come up with tools to help you recover from just about every form of bricking, but nothing can save you from not having a plan ahead of time.
I suggest after you read the Wiki, that you start with the Olipro Hard-SPL before you flash anything else to your phone. And as always ask yourself why you need to upgrade your device. If the answer isn't substantial and you aren't prepared to lose the device due to a bad flash or just plain bad luck you shouldn't flash. Again if you are prepared ahead of time flashing is relatively safe, but if you jump in without knowing what you should, you risk ruining your device.
IDK if this was covered somewhere else so im sorry if it was.
But if you upgrade the 8525 with the official Windows mobile 6 Rom Will a 6gb micro sd card work with it?
yes, and here is a recent thread on the subject: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378156
thanks
Thanks I appreciate it big time. I just bought my new At&t 8525 so I'm super pumped to put stuff on it and start modding it!!
Please read a bit first, make sure you unlock your phone then install hard SPL. then you can go nuts.... Welcome...
THIS IS A MUST!!!!!!!!!
Remember follow the steps
HARDSPL V7 first .. (from olipro)
And I am a AT&T 8525 guy6 mI just got mine 3 weeks ago and once you have HardSPL V7 it (that is a Absolute must) I suggest you FLASH to this Windows Mobile 6 ROM vp3G's WM6 v3.62 AT&T ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946 Thats the link, I am using it myself as WE SPEAK~~~~~
vp3G's WM6 v3.62 AT&T ROM?!??! Nahh, Prefer 19209.1.0.2 PV DVH..... however you will find that rom preferences are more numerous than the stars in the sky and what suits me or nicknowsky might not suit you. Look at the roms, c what you like and try a few. At least you'll get experience and have some fun flashing roms...
WARNING : Flashing roms is addictive and you will never find the "Perfect rom" as its always there on the forum just after you flashed what you thought was the pinnacle of perfection.
Make sure you Hard SPL...
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WARNING : Flashing roms is addictive and you will never find the "Perfect rom" as its always there on the forum just after you flashed what you thought was the pinnacle of perfection.
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Couldn't have said it better. I love vp3G's roms. But I ve tried alot of the others too. Working with Faria R32 and DR roms right now. Have fun with the new phone and remember to HardSPL.
Thanks
Thanks guys big help from all of you!
I just did the hard spl to my phone and now I'm searching for a nice rom any suggestions please let me know!!
i'm a super noob for this ... hard spl??? what is it & what does it do...sorry to sound noobish but i wanna do my modding correctly & exactly know what i'm doing & not brick.
thanks in advance
Joe here is a good thread to start reading... and read the links in this thread as well.
http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forum...-unlocking-cid-unlocking-wm6-your-8525-a.html
F2504x4, thanks for the read..guess i need to learn alot about windows based phones..
hello everyone!
i have bought a HTC Hermes from eBay and hopefully will receive the device soon. As I want to be prepared, when my new toy arrives, I have already started to read thru the Wiki and the Forums! I know, that the experts, which have been posting here for years now, want every beginner to RTFW and to use the search function and so on. What some mebers here don't seem to understand, that such a huge amount of information, which is often unstructured, easily misunderstood and/or simply outdated, is almost impossible to overcome!
personally, i am sure i learned a lot by reading thru xda-devs for sevreal days. but nevertheless, all this different information leaves me just confused and unsecure. seriously, i dont want to take any chances of bricking my pda!
so my appeal is to sum up some basic information regarding flashing & upgrading. and to make sure that i dont make any mistakes i ask all of you to correct me if i am wrong (which i am most likly going to be a couple of times).
ok. lets go!
basically i believe, that since latest developments
( --> "Free HTC Hermes SIM & CID Unlocker *New* version v3a" & --> "Hard-SPL V7"),
almost all Hermes versions can be UNLOCKED & UPGRADED safely, regardless of what bootloader version they are running....
true?
so all I need to upgrade to my phone to the latest versions is
HardSLP, the UNLOCKER and the ROMs I want to install!
true?
using those new tools mentioned above, downgrading to official 1.04 SLP rom versions (?!) to upgrade IS NOT necessary anymore.
true?
if my phone is once prepared with the two tools mentioned above, it is ready to get flashed again and again.... using those tools is a one time thing, which has to be done first time flashing.
true?
i have some questions as well you could help me with!
in what order should I start working?
what are the first steps? (which tool is used first?)
what are the major mistakes i could make to brick my device, even if i use the newest tools...?
i really hope that some people will understand my problems and try help me!
i would really like to contribute to the forums and if this wokrs out as i imagine, it could result in a new and up to date beginners guide!
thanks for reading!
please help!
regards,krz
Personally....
1) unlock as I believe it actually upgrades your SPL to 1.40. This is fine BUT if you've put Hard SPL ver 7 on then you have to run it again.
2) Hard SPL Ver7. You can put version 9 on BUT its for developers & really doesn't help the person who wants to just flash. It also throws up an error message after flashing that can be worrisome. No problem but apparently it needs fixing.
3) Find a rom you like - Only a hermes rom... If you find a rom you like for another Phone and they try to flash this you can be assured of an instant brick. Its like throwing an english speaking person into another country where no english is spoken. BIG TROUBLE... and unlike a person, the phone won't adapt and learn.
Check the forum for a rom you like, I can guarantee there is no "perfect rom" and sooner than later something else will come along that MUST be tried... Start with wm 6 as these are known to be stable and cut your teeth with these before venturing into the deep waters of 6.1. When you're confident flashing and troubleshooting these, then try wm6.1 as some work and research will/may be necessary to get these roms working stable.
4) Have fun....
Cheers...
thank you ultramag69!
unfortuneatly, noone else seems to want to help me here...
well, i'll keep on trying...
i had time for some further reading.
it seems, that I would not necessarily need the HTC Hermes SIM & CID Unlocker, if my phone was NOT simlocked.
instead of that, i could use the latest version of HardSPL to make it SuperCID!
RIGHT OR WRONG?
[btw: what excacty is the difference between SPL & MFG? what is a mfg anyway?]
I found THIS GUIDE while reading the forums.
* Housekeeping
* Flashing HardSPL
* Upgrading the Radio
* Upgrading to ______ WM6
* Programs and Settings
no matter what ROM version, bootloader, radio, etc. my phone is, following this guide would always work!
RIGHT OR WRONG?
if NOT, when wouldn't it?
what exceptions are there?
again, please be so kind and comment on this. i would realy be glad to be absolutely sure in what i am going to have to do!
there is still some insecurity left, please help me to make things a little clearer for me!
thank you in advance!
regards,
krz
Try reading 1st age of this thread.... Guides by MrVanx... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462&page=34
As for Hard SPL, you can flash ANY HERMES rom... DONT TRY TO FLASH ANY OTHER ROMS.... Also, remember always that Hard SPL ISNT a guarantee not to brick your phone, its a safety net to help you when (and if you get to flashing alot) things go splat. It means that fixing a brick is put back into the realms of possibility instead of you now owning a very expensive paperweight. Please remember too that upgrading your radio rom is the riskiest thing to do on your hermes. most bricks come about because the radio rom gets corrupted & CANT be fixed... Hard SPL or no...As the saying goes, "if it aint broke, don't fix it". depending where you are in the world depends on which radio rom is best... research first and dont overflash this. If in Oz then 1.54.30.10 is selected by Testra. Seems to be ok...
Hope this isnt too much for you to digest...
thank you again ultramag!
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Try reading 1st age of this thread.... Guides by MrVanx...
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i have read thru this, thank you.
but what does "reading 1st age of this thread" mean?
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As for Hard SPL, you can flash ANY HERMES rom... DONT TRY TO FLASH ANY OTHER ROMS....
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that's clear. of course i meant any HERMES Roms regardless of version number, etc. ROMs of other devices (eg. Wizard, Kaiser) are of course NOT compatible...
i just wanted to double check, that downgrading to a certain bootloader is not necessary anymore in times of HardSLP v7...?
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Please remember too that upgrading your radio rom is the riskiest thing to do on your hermes. most bricks come about because the radio rom gets corrupted & CANT be fixed... Hard SPL or no...
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i'm curious, why upgrading the radio ROM is that riskiy or some much riskier that upgrading the windows ROM for example. is it only, because it can't be fixed when flashing goes wrong? or is flashing the radio rom more likely to go wrong than flashing WindowsROM ?
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Hope this isnt too much for you to digest...
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not at all!
keep it coming!
whats "wrong" with my tries to get a RIGHT or WRONG for my assumptions...?
noone seems to feel the need to answer that?
thanks again,
krz
Just the guides... Helped me lotsa times...
Downgrading your SPL from 2.10 isn't the best idea if you are gonna flash a lot a It is a safety net. If you do want to downgrade SPL you can, there is a guide in the wiki.
When the radio rom upgrading goes wrong it seems to be that the memory itself becomes corrupted. There are plenty of "fixes" BUT they seem to work erratically. The os is completely wiped and rewritten and doesn't seem to be affected by these "unrecoverable bad blocks". It can still be screwed up but is more tolerant of errors and can be repaired easily enough using MTTY(do search on wiki).
Read some of the posts about people who've bricked their phone & you'll see that MOST people who cant recover their Hermes have screwed up their radio... ie. phone displays "No GSM". Most can still use the PDA part of the Hermes BUT it won't make calls again so is considered a brick.
Most cooked roms DON'T contain the radio rom.
As for "Yes/No Answers", Yes you are partially right and no, you are partly wrong. Did that clear that up???
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As for "Yes/No Answers", Yes you are partially right and no, you are partly wrong. Did that clear that up???
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totally!
i know that i know nothing!
anyways, thanks for trying. i think it kinda worked....
i flashed the Blue Angel and the Wizard a couple of times without any problems... my PC even crashed once while flashing the wizard.... fortuneatly i could reflash it afterwards..... i thought flashing the HERMES could be more of a hustle... ?
regarding the RADIO ROM: i guess, i will avoid flashing the radio too often!
btw: i am from AUSTRIA, Europe, and I am using the telering/t-mobile network!
recommending me a good RADIO ROM for telering/t-mobile austria would be very much appreciatiaed!
after all, flashing from SD card instead of flashing via an USB connection seems to be recommendeable regarding safety issues! i shall consider that as well!
breaking it down:
1) use HardSPL to upgrade ROMs (instead of downgrading to official SPLs, which are flashable...)
2) dont upgrade the radio too much. find the best one for your provider, flash it once, keep it if it works!
3) safety first! use the SD card for flashing instead of the PC and USB connection.
aight?
krz
Soon grasshopper, you will take over.....answering these questions...
As for radio rom, sorry, but I'm in Australia, ass end of the world where all the crap phones turn up. REALLY happy to find a FANTASTIC phone in the Hermes.....
hello again....
i want to start flashing soon, but there are still some things unclear.
regarding the AKU: i read about AKu in the forums, but i am still not sure about it....
when i upgrade to windows mobile 06 for example, is there a AKU included?
only in official ROMs?
or do i have to upgrade AKUs seperatly?
could anyone at least briefly answer my questions and maybe even try to explain the whole AKU stuff for me again...
would be awesome!
thx in advamce
krz
ps: the more i read in the wiki, the more confused i get... all this outdated information is confusing me more and more... it is really hard to catch up here. specially when all u get is a "gofckyourselfandreadthewiki"-post
KRZTF said:
hello again....
i want to start flashing soon, but there are still some things unclear.
regarding the AKU: i read about AKu in the forums, but i am still not sure about it....
when i upgrade to windows mobile 06 for example, is there a AKU included?
only in official ROMs?
or do i have to upgrade AKUs seperatly?
could anyone at least briefly answer my questions and maybe even try to explain the whole AKU stuff for me again...
would be awesome!
thx in advamce
krz
ps: the more i read in the wiki, the more confused i get... all this outdated information is confusing me more and more... it is really hard to catch up here. specially when all u get is a "gofckyourselfandreadthewiki"-post
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You're just getting information overload, If you searched for "What is AKU" using google you'd have got this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1445514&postcount=1
Just follow Mr Vanx's Guide http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=26 or else http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1186163&postcount=1 from start to end & you should have a successful flash. This link is also very handy for beginners http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1465974&postcount=1
Just remember if you intend to flash one of the WM6.1 Roms, many of the members feel that it is best to flash an official carrier Rom before flashing your selected Rom to prevent H/R issues. Happy Flashing!
I am having htc p3400 with wm 6
today i have downloaded wm6.1 from this web sight
and i have updated the same. but the divece is not
working properly. I tried to reset the divice but after
starting it will struck.
So kindly tell me the solution.
did u read the Stiky
hi
im new too infact im a total non techi but i had read various articles at this forum i read sumiths stiky around 10 times before i even tired it now my sugestion is read it now and do it word for word did u do HSPL
just read the sumits stiky do it word for word he has given such great details that even some one who has zero knoledge like me could do it
good luck
hari
using : sumits vanilamanila(for old gene) and loving it
What apears is that you have flashed your device without SPL-ing it, please try to reflash your Gene with the original ROM, which you will find in krazy's Stickey. Best of Luck. And by the way, why don't you ask first before flashing your Devices? I asked around 20 questions before first flashing my Vox!
Shaunak, its not worth your effort answering these kind of threads, enough is enough. We are not here to do the Kidwalking, let them search on their own.
Hello Freinds
Last night I tried to splash my Gene (Bought on 17th Feb '09)
It gave error msg wrong version of SPL...HSPL Fail
I stopped there...till now my phone is working fine..but I want to load new ROM
I used gene_hspl_HT8x.exe to splash my phone
Senior Members please help this child in trouble....
Mp phone stats
HTC P3400i
S/N: HT8XXXXXX
ONBL 1.17.0000
SPL 1.17.0000
GSM 2.79.90
OS 1.17.0.0
Windows mobile 6 professional
CE OS 5.2.1622 (Build 18128.0.4.4)
ROM Version 1.17.720.1 WWE
ROM Date 03/07/08
Radio Version 2.79.90
Protocol Version 4.1.13.34
ExtROM Versuon 1.17.720.101
Please help me out
post removed coz i realize that i had used harsh language,which shouldn't be used in the forum. But nevertheless, my feelings remain same
can u tell me is it old or new gene
Nobody in this world can tell you a phone is old or new gene. Its only become known when you follow the process given in tutorial actually. If you read the tutorial instead of wasting time here, you will get to know exactly what i mean. THis is a developers forum, for heavens sake, and you cant even read a 1 page tutorial?
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can u tell me is it old or new gene
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read this post
Oh yes, i forgot about this one. But Ramerson, please also try to post a link to some tool that can be used to compare these two files, otherwise you know what will be the next question
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Nobody in this world can tell you a phone is old or new gene. Its only become known when you follow the process given in tutorial actually. If you read the tutorial instead of wasting time here, you will get to know exactly what i mean. THis is a developers forum, for heavens sake, and you cant even read a 1 page tutorial?
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sorry 4 bumping the thread again, but I have a query.
Can you please mention which tut you are talking about?
As I have covered the test spl tut and come to know that i have new htc gene(bought 3 days ago). But I get the same error.
what should i do to unlock spl?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472169
@Xumit: Specify ur error (what type of error). and when It's occurring (which step this error occurred).
Then u can get help.
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But I get the same error.
what should i do to unlock spl?
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@Xumit: Specify ur error (what type of error). and when It's occurring (which step this error occurred).
Then u can get help.
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Thanks for reply.
When I run gene_hspl_ht8x.exe I get error in a small diloug box is
"'Gene HSPL'
Unknown version of SPL.
HSPL FAIL."
btw, If I try to unlock spl with sumit's trick old hspl wont work for me for sure.and my gene will brick. But what if the new hspl is not even working on it? My phone will be bricked for ages....
someone please help....
I do not if it will work for you or not. There is a spl file in Zelalat's ROM thread by ankit360, the Hard SPL file or rather the Gene Bricker (LOL) worked for me from that post. But do it at your own risk.
read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2953612&postcount=2
BTW, right now krazy has an excellent tutorial, ramersonw has another, but you people just dont have enough time to read the forum. When I came to the Gene forum, what three or four months back there was nothing of this sort in the forum and everything was totally unorganized. Yet I was able to flash my Gene without asking much and reading a lot.
why wast ur time
hi
dear Krazy& addict why was ur time
first of all sumits stiky is the first posting no one needs a guide to find it and i think this guy has not even read it when i did it their was no help but now we have very detail simple tuts for every thing so let him read try and then ask for help
@Xumit
pls read stiky by sumit it also has all req tools try it and then come for help
their is no room for lazyness here and their is no easy way to do it OK
good luck
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I do not if it will work for you or not. There is a spl file in Zelalat's ROM thread by ankit360, the Hard SPL file or rather the Gene Bricker (LOL) worked for me from that post. But do it at your own risk.
read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2953612&postcount=2
BTW, right now krazy has an excellent tutorial, ramersonw has another, but you people just dont have enough time to read the forum. When I came to the Gene forum, what three or four months back there was nothing of this sort in the forum and everything was totally unorganized. Yet I was able to flash my Gene without asking much and reading a lot.
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@svrhari
I dont want to be harsh, but what the hell you think of me?
You have your gene unlocked by the easy tut. but I have bought it 2 days ago.
I have a low post count so this doesnt mean that Im a nub.Im reading this forum from 3 weeks ago. I have all the tools from the stickies, and i have followed them all.
So if you think you are wasting your time, please ignore thise thread. thread.
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@svrhari
I dont want to be harsh, but what the hell you think of me?
You have your gene unlocked by the easy tut. but I have bought it 2 days ago.
I have a low post count so this doesnt mean that Im a nub.Im reading this forum from 3 weeks ago. I have all the tools from the stickies, and i have followed them all.
So if you think you are wasting your time, please ignore thise thread. thread.
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^^I flahshed my Gene on the same day I bought it without any tutorial, so your point is?
Have you tried the file in Zelalat's thread (ankit's Post not zelalat's, that did not work for me)
@Xmuit
hi
i flashed my Phone after 6 months of buying my phone i joined this forum few days since i got my phone but the day i decided to do HSPL i decided that it was my decision and at that time their was no tut here and just because u bought ur phone a few days back dose not mean people here have to jump to help u and buy the way this has nothing to do with post iv been here for a long time and my post count might be less than ur so
AND I DID MY HSPL THE HARD WAY THEIR WAS NO TUT AVAILABLE WHEN I DID IT
yes i got help but i did not put up a thread i asked individuals in the various threads and also by PM and after a long long time this great guy helped me whom i don't want to mention here but he too helped me when he as free and i waited for the same
EVEN today i dont put up threads for my personal self i put threads which are also useful to other
AND WHOS MISTAKE IS IT THAT U BRIKED UR PHONE NOT ANY ONE HERE
i gaurentee u that if u read Krazy stiky save it on ur comp and read it around 10 times and use the tools do wat it says word for word sucess is urs
don't u DARE show ur frustration & anger on me its ur mistake that u briked ur phone no ones else is responsible OK
still wishing u luck
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@svrhari
I dont want to be harsh, but what the hell you think of me?
You have your gene unlocked by the easy tut. but I have bought it 2 days ago.
I have a low post count so this doesnt mean that Im a nub.Im reading this forum from 3 weeks ago. I have all the tools from the stickies, and i have followed them all.
So if you think you are wasting your time, please ignore thise thread. thread.
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Firstly Mind Your Manners Everyone.
(doesn't mean anyone's wrong)
imblfmstr, as you can see (check that big banner in my signature).
There are tips on creating a new Thread about YOUR problem.
It helps to go through the stickies, because after that you can mention which steps you have tried from those stickies.
(in case you then decide to start a new thread)
And try to imagine that your device does not get saved by the tips in the Stickies, but by something not mentioned in the sticky and that then only gets posted in this new thread.
Because most people would go through the stickies this (hypothetical) new information might get lost to those users.
That is why a lot of users try to make clear the importance of posting and using the stickies instead of opening a new thread that can easily disappear to page 147 (which no one ever reads)
Why r u writing it to me
thats fine but it was someone else who popped up this thread
my problem was solved with help of krazy
Thnx for the search bar addon...
We should keep forums clean!!man u ppl cant send ne private msg. to experts like krazy,svr( he is not a chef,but he still helps oder ppl a lot,Ankit,addicted.plz dont waste threads:l
i had flashed my mobile on next day of purchase.
A Request to all New Members please Read stickeys!! before posting ne new thread.95% of things are already there in stickeys.Still if u dont understand read 1nce again or send private msg.