Seeking GPS satellites (0)... - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

Hi Friends:
I'm trying to enable the GPS for my SPRINT HTC MOGUL PPC-6800...let me give you the GPS-Settings
Start/Settings/System/External GPS
- Programs: COM4
- Hardware: (None) & 4800
- Access: Manage GPS automatically (recommended) option is checked
Start/Settings/Personal/Phone/Services/Location Setting is set to "ON"
I'm doing the following:
1. Make sure data connection is active and start QuickGPS. There's a time at the bottom that tells you how long the data is active for. I download the data over and over until it says 7 days at the bottom. Once it says 7 days I exit QuickGPS. I then go into task manager and make sure QuickGPS is stopped.
2. I open Holux GPS Viewer and make sure it's set to Com 4/4800 baud, and then open the gps. Immediately after opening I check the WAAS checkbox and immediately after checking the box, I click Cold Start. I then minimize GPS Viewer (I do not close it in task manager).
3. I open Google Maps and run it normally. For Google Maps I click Use GPS and I get Seeking GPS satellites (0)... with one point in the middle of the screen...for 15 or 30 minutes...and nothing change...the GPS isn't enabled
Can you help me?
Thanks
TecMan
SPRINT HTC MOGUL PPC-6800
ROM version: dcd 3.0.1
Carrier: Iusacell (Mexico)
Radio version: 3.35.04

Why are you using these gps launchers before google maps? Google maps always gets gps by itself on my phone... either way when you check use gps it should acquire. How long are you waiting? Where are you when doing this(inside/outside)? What rom are you running? I would soft reset then go to google maps and try without the launchers/primers. Besides that sounds like you should be good but i think some users reported bad chips in the handset, might be that.

Hi thakidc:
Thanks for your reply...let me give you my answers:
Why are you using these gps launchers before google maps?...Google Maps works great with my 3G-Internet connection and I read that QuickGPS & Holux GPS Viewer help to enable the GPS
How long are you waiting?...for 15 or 30 minutes...and nothing change...the GPS isn't enabled
Where are you when doing this(inside/outside)? inside in my office
What rom are you running? ROM version: dcd 3.0.1
Let me try "outside" and run Google Maps without launchers/primers
Thanks
TecMan
SPRINT HTC MOGUL PPC-6800
ROM version: dcd 3.0.1
Carrier: Iusacell (Mexico)
Radio version: 3.35.04

Hi thakidc:
The GPS enabled (4) with Google Maps and without launchers/primers but outside of my office
Thanks for your help
TecMan
SPRINT HTC MOGUL PPC-6800
ROM version: dcd 3.0.1
Carrier: Iusacell (Mexico)
Radio version: 3.35.04

No problem your building must be pretty solid to block the signal or you in the middle or sumthin

I had a quick question, I don't have a problem getting a signal outside. But I find in some vehicles that I get in no matter how long i leave GPS running it can't get a lock on any sattelites. Has anyone had this problem before?
ROM: DCD 3.0.1
Software: Garmin Mobile XT or TomTom

That does sound wierd, r u in a armored truck or sumthin. If your moving try stopping, roll a window down or uh.. hold your phone out it. Good luck

thakidc said:
No problem your building must be pretty solid to block the signal or you in the middle or sumthin
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No, we've found that not all Titans are equal and some, sadly, have rather poor satellite reception.
The GPS hardware discrepancies certainly do exist (a few members have tested identical software setups on multiple units at the same time and location) and it's just a luck of the draw as to what you have.

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Problem with DCD 3.2.6, Radio 3.42.50, and iGO8 Nav Software

Hey all. I have DCDs 3.2.6 ROM, 3.42.50 radio, and iGO8 navigation software installed on my Verizon XV6800. I can receive and lock GPS in about 5-7 minutes using the Holux GPS Viewer v1.5, however if I lock GPS and navigate using the iGO8 software, if the unit ever loses GPS lock the entire phone freezes up. This happens every time i'm using iGO8 and I go inside, block the GPS signal for a second, etc. Very frustrating to have to pop out the battery every time i'm using iGO8, any ideas what I should look for to troubleshoot?
Thanks.
not sure if astro launcher is compatable with that app but it works great with tom tom and it restablishes a signal when i power down and then back up
fvultee said:
Hey all. I have DCDs 3.2.6 ROM, 3.42.50 radio, and iGO8 navigation software installed on my Verizon XV6800. I can receive and lock GPS in about 5-7 minutes using the Holux GPS Viewer v1.5, however if I lock GPS and navigate using the iGO8 software, if the unit ever loses GPS lock the entire phone freezes up. This happens every time i'm using iGO8 and I go inside, block the GPS signal for a second, etc. Very frustrating to have to pop out the battery every time i'm using iGO8, any ideas what I should look for to troubleshoot?
Thanks.
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How are able to run iGo8 on a 6800? I dont believe there was enough RAM to get it to run smoothly, and it would lock up all the time. Just what I heard over at Ppcgeeks.
Steve
I have the exact same setup and i run iGO8 just fine. Depending on my build or rom that I use, it will load up immediately after install, but since ive been using 207XXX builds, I have to reboot after install. I used to us Astrolauncher, but i have fallen in love with GPS toggle ... especially the latest version that shows the sats on the screen. Sweet!
I run OnCourse8 which is really like iGo8 and it works flawlessly. Either use Baf's GPS Toggle or Astrolauncher to prime for fast locks on a xv6800. I'm also running radio 3.39.10 which seems to work alot better for GPS in my area.

aGPS updates done, strange symptom?

Hey all. Here's my config:
DCD 3.2.6
Radio 3.42.50
PRL 51056
PRI 1.35_002
I've also applied all of the QPST changes per gc14 with the PDE IPs, settings, etc. I've also verified that my default reg values are correct.
So I can now lock GPS outside within 2 minutes or so after applying all the patches. I do use GPS Viewer to prime, but am seeing a strange thing in all GPS progs now. GPS Viewer as well as iGO8 will flash 10 gps signals for 1 second every 5 seconds, then the signals will disappear, repeating this forever. I assume these are aGPS signals but i'm never getting a "lock" inside, only outside, even though my cell signal is fine inside. Anyone seen this problem, or have any idea what i should check next?
Thanks,
F
Cambridge, MA
Does the "GPS" section of FieldTest.exe show pilot phase/strength/time offsets? These refer to pilot PN offsets (i.e. tower sectors), as far as my understanding goes. If you are using standalone GPS, my suspicion is that you won't see any data here, however, not having the capability to do standalone GPS on my device just yet, I can't be entirely certain.
Worth a look, though.
Me too
fvultee said:
Hey all. Here's my config:
DCD 3.2.6
Radio 3.42.50
PRL 51056
PRI 1.35_002
I've also applied all of the QPST changes per gc14 with the PDE IPs, settings, etc. I've also verified that my default reg values are correct.
So I can now lock GPS outside within 2 minutes or so after applying all the patches. I do use GPS Viewer to prime, but am seeing a strange thing in all GPS progs now. GPS Viewer as well as iGO8 will flash 10 gps signals for 1 second every 5 seconds, then the signals will disappear, repeating this forever. I assume these are aGPS signals but i'm never getting a "lock" inside, only outside, even though my cell signal is fine inside. Anyone seen this problem, or have any idea what i should check next?
Thanks,
F
Cambridge, MA
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Yup, I have noticed this as well. Happens to me regardless of Radio, PRI, or ROM. I see it a lot with HTC GPS tool. Dont know what it means but I eventually get a lock. I think VZW still sucks and the PDE servers are not as good as Sprint maybe? Im not seeing the "5 seconds locks" everyone else is. I am however getting very fast locks, maybe 20 to 30 seconds. Nothing more than that though. On occasion I still fail to lock but far far less than I used to without the PDE infomration. I dont know what it is but I can confirm what you are seeing.
Radio .40
DCD 3.2.6
PRL 2
OliPro 2.4
My Fieldtest doesn't have a GPS Group, so no info there. Any other ideas?
Sorry, it's FieldTrial.exe and not FieldTest.exe.
At least with the MR1 ROM, there's a Debug Info menu where you can select GPS to dump GPS debugging information.
When using AGPS on my device with VZ Navigator, this is updated with tower information. I don't have a device that uses standalone GPS, nor a device with a different ROM other than the MR1 ROM, so I can't really speak for that unfortunately.
I'm not completely certain that you won't see the PN-related fields filled in using standalone GPS mode. However, from my work at hacking on the V740 some time ago, I suspect that pilot phase values are going to be related to cell triangulation (time offset of the signal from the cell towers being used for triangulation against the current CDMA time when the signal was received by your device, i.e. propagation delay).
Skywing said:
Sorry, it's FieldTrial.exe and not FieldTest.exe.
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Hmm, maybe we are getting somewhere, but I dunno since I have never used FieldTrial.exe before. I just fired it up and the entire GPS tab shows N/A for EVERY field. Does anyone else see that with a working GPS?
fvultee said:
Hmm, maybe we are getting somewhere, but I dunno since I have never used FieldTrial.exe before. I just fired it up and the entire GPS tab shows N/A for EVERY field. Does anyone else see that with a working GPS?
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Okay, I think that you're operating in standalone GPS mode.
Rationale:
With my device (on MR1), when I access the GPS through the custom interface that LBSDriver.dll uses (i.e. via VZ Navigator), I'll start to get data in FieldTrial.exe (on a fresh boot, all the fields are N/A). Of course, the latitude/longitude are garbage (having not been through the decryption logic) as shown in FieldTrial.exe for me, but the rest of the fields (e.g. altitude and GPS time, as well as cell tower triangulation data) show valid data.
To me, this indicates that FieldTrial.exe is just pulling AGPS-related data and not standalone data.
Can you try disabling the phone radio entirely (via Connection Manager or whatever the app is in your firmware) and see if that changes the lock speed at all? If not, that's further credence that you're not using assisted GPS. (Caveat emptor: I don't know if disabling the radio will also turn off standalone GPS, as I don't have any way to check that. It should be pretty immediately obvious to you if it does, though.)

Google Gears "My Location"

Has anyone gotten the Google Gears "My location" API to work. It keeps
coming back as unavailable.
This is on DCD 3.2.6 & Radio 3.42.50
Maps, Live and TomTom all work fine.
I've been having the same problem, default ROM w/ WM 6.1... No matter what I do it comes up as unavailable. Sprint Nav, Google Maps, GPSToday, and other GPS related apps work just fine though
I believe that it's simply a Google problem..where for some reason, our device isn't supported
if you have a gps lock, select use gps. if you move around the map to say, look ahead in your directions, then hit mylocation it will take you back to your gps point. that's all it will do for me on my titan.
Are you on Verizon? Where am I uses cell towers by default which Verizon blocks. However, as said earlier, if you get a gps lock and then choose where am I it seems to use the GPS. I have seen people on other carriers use it but never a Verizon phone of any kind.
Yea the carrier has nothing to do with my location, however, I can tell you that my location with the titan does not work, though I don't know why anyone with one would be using my location when you have gps capabilities. I had to go through a lot to get it to work on one of my buddy's shadow and it really isn't accurate enough for directions. On my other friends verizon blackjack it works a little better but not very good. If you were ridiculously lost in a good size city it could help but rural and navigation I don't think it would do you any good. Each time I didn't I had to read the blog on my location beta and there were unlockers I had to download.
So to sum up: If you have a titan unlock the gps one chip and go about your business.
Isn't the Blackjack a GSM device (not Verizon)?

My Location....And all the frustration

First of all my respect to all the cooks and tweakers out there who brought us these fine ROMS for our Raph's with the latest and greatest manila stuff on it.
Second, if this is posted in the wrong thread, or if we want to widen the audience, (@mod's) please feel free to move this thread.
However, I feel like this is the right place to start this little thread.
I have been tampering with my device for days now, trying to get the My Location to work as it is supposed to.
With no joy however....I just about tried everything I could find here and on other forums.
It seems like I am not the only one with this problem, I see a lot of posts popping up in different ROM sections (even different devices) with people sharing my frustration.
It seems like it is not ROM relates, as I am on TAEL now, tried Energy and before that SHEP's...all with no go on my location, but all ROMS with lot's of people reporting that it is working fine for them on same ROMS.
After fresh flash, different Radio's and Rilphones...no go...
I am trying to figure out a pattern, but because reports of My Location not working are so dispersed over the forums, it is hard to get a good view.
That's why I want to start this troubleshooting guide here.
Maybe it is an idea for everyone who has troubles to post their provider, their ROM (even though it is not related I think) and their tweaks.
Also radio and Rilphone, as well as info about your gps usage or agps settings.
ALso please post your actual failure (is it the connection error or is it that you get the message No weather data available)
Is it working through wifi or not.... stuff like that.
Any additions or thoughts to this is welcome.
I will reserve a second post for possible fixes and a third post with a possible template for reporting your issues.
I am really impressed by the way XDA members are pulling together at the moment to fix issues, let's keep up the good work
Thanks guys and galls, let's solve this once and for all
Solutions and Fixes
Reserved for possible solutions and fixes
Fill in template for troubleshooting
This My Location is freaking me out... here's my info to help troubleshooting:
My actual error is:
I own a Raphael\Fuze
I am using this ROM:
My current Radio version is:
My current Rilphone version is:
My provider is:
It is working through WIFI\3G\2G\Not at all
I use AGPS: yes\no
I use GPS often: yes\no
I have tweaked my device: yes\no
I have been tampering with AGPS registry: yes\no
Using Goolgemaps I get my position from the cell towers without problems: yes\no
I am thinking it is related to......(your ideas are welcome )
1st troubleshooting report
This My Location is freaking me out... here's my info to help troubleshooting:
My actual error is: No weather data available (with 3G\HSDPA and 2G) connection error with WIFI
I own a Raphael
I am using this ROM: TAEL Sense edition
My current Radio version is: 1.17.25.09 Raph Radio from hotfix
My current Rilphone version is: 1.14.25.24 BS Rilphone
My provider is: T-Mobile UK
It is working: Not at all
I use AGPS: yes
I use GPS often: yes
I have tweaked my device: no
I have been tampering with AGPS registry: yes, using nokia server, but after hard reset it is not working with stock settings.
Using Goolgemaps I get my position from the cell towers without problems: Yes
I am thinking it is related to......rilphone, although I have tried all different rilphones by now.
It may be some GPS tweaking I did in the past that survives any flashes...
This My Location is freaking me out... here's my info to help troubleshooting:
My actual error is: No Location data.....just times out.
I own a Fuze
I am using this ROM: 21869 Energy ROM
My current Radio version is: 1.14.25.05
My current Rilphone version is: 1.14.25.05
My provider is: ATT
It is working through WIFI\2G\
I use AGPS: yes
I use GPS often: yes
I have tweaked my device: no
I have been tampering with AGPS registry: no
Using Goolgemaps I get my position from the cell towers without problems: yes as long as i am outdoors...i get it sometimes indoors.
I am thinking it is related to....Not sure exactly....although when i turn 3G on/off using the Comm Manager I get a connectivity error, so it might have something to do with that. I have used TAEL, Energy and rredux and all have the same issue. I have used 3 different radios with the rilphone and have the same issue with all of them.
I too have been going crazy the whole weekend trying to get it too work. I have not installed any cabs or tweaks.
My actual error is:No error
I own a Raphael
I am using this ROM:|RAPH|ROM|6.5.3|WWE| ★ EnergyROM 'Akeo' (28002) ★ |Nov20 and Nov 21| Manila 2.5
My current Radio version is:Radio: 1.17.25.09 (official Raphael)
My current Rilphone version is:1.14.25.05 rilphone.dll
My provider is:Vodafone Germany
It is working through WIFI\3G\2G\ All
I use AGPS: yes
I use GPS often: yes
I have tweaked my device: At first No
I have been tampering with AGPS registry: no
Using Goolgemaps I get my position from the cell towers without problems: yes
On my phone it is not always working , it is the location where I am.
in my home city it is working but a city 20Km (12.43 mile) away it isn't working and the network is the same .
maybe you can test that.
Edit: when I am driving (fast) (180 Km/h and faster) it won't work to.
ps: in Germany you may drive as fast as the car can go
I seem to recall a thread posted a few months back in the Raphael Software and/or Raphael ROM Development by some seasoned chefs (including Da_G).
Essentially, the thread highlighted the fact that some carriers changed the AGPS entry to reference an internal network server. This would cause AGPS to only function if you are a subscriber of the carrier network (ex: AT&T).
Believe this may be the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489887
hilaireg said:
I seem to recall a thread posted a few months back in the Raphael Software and/or Raphael ROM Development by some seasoned chefs (including Da_G).
Essentially, the thread highlighted the fact that some carriers changed the AGPS entry to reference an internal network server. This would cause AGPS to only function if you are a subscriber of the carrier network (ex: AT&T).
Believe this may be the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489887
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Tnx..
However, I don't think this is down to AGPS, as I have AGPS working as should..
If I use HTCGPSTool I can see that data is being injected from AGPS into my gps chip...
Do you have any indication wether my location works purely on AGPS info?
p50kombi said:
Tnx..
However, I don't think this is down to AGPS, as I have AGPS working as should..
If I use HTCGPSTool I can see that data is being injected from AGPS into my gps chip...
Do you have any indication wether my location works purely on AGPS info?
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Good question; I'm not sure as to how much My Location depends on AGPS data. If you have it working, I would guess likely not as much as originally suspected.
hilaireg said:
Good question; I'm not sure as to how much My Location depends on AGPS data. If you have it working, I would guess likely not as much as originally suspected.
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Thanks for your input though bro..
As a respected member, it's good to have your input....
Alas,,,,,, the quest continues....
My actual error is: My Fuze is not shaped like Megan Fox
I own a FUZE
I am using this ROM: TAEL 28002 Manila 2.1
My current Radio version is: 1.14.25.35
My current Rilphone version is: 1.14.25.35
My provider is: AT&T USA
It is working: The phone is, Megan Fox Mod, not so much.
I use AGPS: yes
I use GPS often: yes
I have tweaked my device: tweaked to disable vibration, increase GPS log size. still no luck on Megan Fox
I have been tampering with AGPS registry: not as far as i know.
Using Goolgemaps I get my position from the cell towers without problems: All the time. it pisses me off though, till the GPS kicks in a few seconds later and it shows me what street im on. The weather service also is reliable in fetching weather for my present location.
If anyone figures out the Megan Fox Mod, please let me know.
i suggest not using the 1.17 radio and sticking with the 1.14.25.35. definitely superior imo, and im in MA where ATT blows donkey kong, and i still get fixes really fast. atleast cell tower fixes are instantaneous.
With some of the first NRG roms i tried that had mylocation. My fuze would only pick up on the actual location if i was using wifi or if i turned my 3G off. For some reason, while on EDGE, location worked. Now though, my sim card was screwing up and dropping calls and when I swapped it out for a new one at an ATT store my location works almost 100% of the time on 3G, EDGE, or wifi.
My actual error is: No weather data available (with 3G\HSDPA and 2G\WIFI)
I own a Touch HD (Blackstone)
I am using this ROM: Miri WM 6.5 21885 :: MANILA 2.5 :: REV 15.0
My current Radio version is: 1.10.25.25
My current Rilphone version is: 1.14.25.24 BS Rilphone
My provider is: Zain KSA
It is working: sometime only when connected with GPS
I use AGPS: yes
I use GPS often: no
I have tweaked my device: no initially
I have been tampering with AGPS registry: no
Using Goolgemaps I get my position from the cell towers without problems: Yes, but I don't get it so accurate (within 1300m)
I am thinking it is related to......1) Accuracy of Google location service itself as long as it's still a beta service and it's sometimes inaccurate as in my case for example Google maps would show my location within 1300m from a center point in my city if my phone radio is on, while it would show it within 16100 m from a center point in another city if I turn off my radio and use wifi of my DSL router (my DSL ISP server is in another city which is about 600 km from my actual location). BUT, if I use GPS, my Google maps would show my actual location and HTC weather will get my location and update weather for it.
2) The way HTC manila integrates with google location service
N.B: it would be nice for us to test my theory if everyone writes what my location gives on google maps (acurte point vs. within xxxxxx meters from point)
issue solved
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610927

GPS not working properly

Hey guys,
Im running stock ROM: 2.73.405.5
Radio : 63.18.55.06EU_6.35.06.18
My device has recovery and root.
And GPS does not seem to work, I have tried with Google maps and Waze.
Waze gets my location for a sec (as it resets the map to my real location), I have disabled the use of wireless networks to find out the location so I guess GPS must be working if it can see where I am for a second but after that it says it's looking for GPS satellites and it never finds any no matter where I am.
As far as I recall I have never been able to get a satellite.
Will a radio upgrade help me?
Has anyone ever experience such problems and found a solution?
Are there any changes to settings I need to apply except enabling location services ?
ronnen said:
Hey guys,
Im running stock ROM: 2.73.405.5
Radio : 63.18.55.06EU_6.35.06.18
My device has recovery and root.
And GPS does not seem to work, I have tried with Google maps and Waze.
Waze gets my location for a sec (as it resets the map to my real location), I have disabled the use of wireless networks to find out the location so I guess GPS must be working if it can see where I am for a second but after that it says it's looking for GPS satellites and it never finds any no matter where I am.
As far as I recall I have never been able to get a satellite.
Will a radio upgrade help me?
Has anyone ever experience such problems and found a solution?
Are there any changes to settings I need to apply except enabling location services ?
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have you sat still for a good 5-10 mins with a clear view of the sky?> and does ur internet work fine on the phone?
hero can locate you either with the phone's network service or GPS, the first one locate you in no time but can't get an acurate coordinate. On the contary, GPS takes longer time but get a better fix (Take a few minutes).
Go to "setting" - "position"(not sure for my not using english as my default language) check both box to active GPS and network locating function.

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