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OK im not a new to windows mobile, i have flashed before many times but with wizard.
I want to upgrade my brother hermes,
ipl 1.01
spl 1.06
Im quite familiar with wizards "shelltool" (if you know) which just boots the OS and nothing else.
So can you guide as which tool i should use to just upgrade the OS and leave IPL and SPL and GSM as it is. I think SSPL should do??
Check out THIS MOST AWESOME GUIDE. MrVanx is the best and his guide will give you all you need.
But im in warranty, and i dont wanna lose it by overwriting spl,
Is there any other way to upgrade.
I think SSPL will do but not sure do i need to check for CID also??
Thanks for quick reply.
If your warranty is important, then I would read it very closely.
Probably only upgrades available from your manufacturer or your service provider would be allowed, and in that case you follow their instructions to the letter and if something goes wrong, it's up to them to resolve.
If you go loading WM6 and it's not supported, then you'll be on your own so you might as well load best/safest IPL & HARDSSPL as the experts have so wonderfully published for us lesser experienced people.
If it was my brothers phone, I wouldn't touch it because he'd either hit me or be bugging me for weeks about different versions & software etc, etc, etc
That's just my 2cents anyway.
Good luck! Oggy.
samy.3660 said:
But im in warranty, and i dont wanna lose it by overwriting spl,
Is there any other way to upgrade.
I think SSPL will do but not sure do i need to check for CID also??
Thanks for quick reply.
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I would suggest not flashing a radio if you don't flash Olipro's HardSPL.
But SSPL will allow you to bypass the CID check for roms, similar to the shelltool for Wizards.
I have learned now to decompile and compile the nbh file.
So i can compile now any rom with OS only and flash it via SSPL.
Can anybody guide me to a guide to use SSPL. OR can u say???
I have one more confusion regarding SSPL that it does change the SPL for time being(for flashing) or for always??
Again if anything goes wrong while flashing the rom(only OS) will i be able to flash the original rom directly with original SPL.
It's patched SPL 2.20
1. Run SSPL (SoftSPL) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347348
2. Flash HardSPL for your DOC
Yes, really was not hard to patch.. glad it worked))) so, this disables CID and some other checks, so you can flash any custom rom
i have hard SPL/IPL 3.08 will ir work?
newbe here.
What does device root mean?
is it my prophet?
is root windows directory
Looks promissing.
So, as I understand, you don't have to "downgrade" your firmware everytime you want to try a new ROM?
This looks great.
You made our life much easier I think this should be a Sticky
for those of you who dosen't really know what this does.
follow the procedure (soft SPL then hard SPL) and you would never ever need any extra steps before upgrading to wm6.
EDIT: Okay I made it easier. I made a batch file to do the work. (Soft SPL then Hard SPL)
just run the Upgrade_SPL.bat from your PC. It will do the Soft and Hard SPL
Thanks Prislav for this great work
Test to patch a G4 prophet : ok
IPL and SPL version seem differents
IPL : 2.10.00
SPL : 2.G4.4PDA
Test to flash my proper ROM : ok for the moment.
Whaô, WM6 update with progress bar, Fantastic.
Reflexion :
Rom update launched from WindowsMobile synchronised with ActiveSync with patched RUU for Wizard.
My Prophet seems to be reconized by the RUU like a Wizard but upgrade work.
Finally :
Perfect job Prislav it work like a charm, our Prophet are now like other recents HTC devices. It rock : only 10minutes to flash a ROM with special SplashScreen
Now :
Flash just finished, all is ok Prislav, you are the BOSS
Question :
Do a patched RUU for Vista exist ?
Perfect for G4 Prophet...
Wooo! Done!
WOW!
I just tried this, and it's amazing! I tried flashing my Original ROM and it worked. Even the SPL was updated. The only thing that it didn't change was IPL. If you broke your phone and have warranty, this is THE easiest way to get the Vendor ROM back. I would even venture to say this is the best tool yet for Flash-a-holics. Thank you so much!
Sounds great, but what about warranty?
Do we lose it if we change hard spl?
worth to try....
This is really an evolution (or is it revolution? ).
lol this removed my spl 3.08,really amazing tool,thanks prislav,big thanks.
IS HardSPL necessary if CID Unlocked ???
I CID unlocked my G4 M600 with the known paid service.
So do i need to HardSPL my phone and why???
Please somebody explain...
as i think,if you have hardspl,you will never be able to brick your phone.correct me if i was wrong.
Can a G4 be bricked? I was under the impression that the G4 was unbrickable. All the bricks I've ever heard of were G3 devices. I mean one can get stuck at bootloader and the like, but I've always got my phone back. Even had a Wizard ROM on there, and even that didn't brick it (although that time I thought it was toast!)! Like zeroed said, it will help you get your SPL back if you have that problem, and I think it's just an amazing tool for flashing in general.
Panas78 said:
I CID unlocked my G4 M600 with the known paid service.
So do i need to HardSPL my phone and why???
Please somebody explain...
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Anyone pleaassseee ?????
I just need to be totally shure about this.. If i run this hard spl thingy patch on my G4 prophet i do not need to downgrade to wm5 everytime i want to try a new wm6 rom, if i currently are using a wm6 rom ?
And how do you guys flash a wm6 rom with the RUU utility ? I haven't seen any WM6 rom yet using RUU..
Just a little confused, sorry!
You wont need upgrading to wm5 - i recommend that you never flash full roms to avoid spl reflashing after hard-spl. the best practice will be to use nb2nbf to generate nbfs for your os, splash and gsm separately
Wait a second. Why should we avoid SPL reflashing after HardSPL??? I already flashed back to my original SPL and re-flashed HardSPL without any problem. What is the danger of doing this?
Hello all. How do I use athenaunlocker? I have download it, and unrar it, and on PC it gives me an error. Should I copy it on memory card, and run it from pda? thank you.
ady_uaic said:
Hello all. How do I use athenaunlocker? I have download it, and unrar it, and on PC it gives me an error. Should I copy it on memory card, and run it from pda? thank you.
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Hi ady
before we go further I need to know 2 things.
Do you have a HTC athena or variant.
Did you use the wrapper and follow the instructions from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
hello, i have htc x7500 advantage and i want to install the english wm 6 rom, wwe. first i have to unlock it, right?
I didn't used that. if i will, i don't need anymore athenaunlocker? what's the difference between athenaunlocker and hard-spl from that link?
You have to explain WHAT HTC wm6 ROM you want to install First
If you have and old WM5 x7500 just register on www.htc.com and download the HTC OFFICIAL WM6 update for YOUR language!!
ONLY
If your X7500 is SIM LOCKED you need to UNLOCK it first(wrapper isn't for SIM Unlock) and ATHENA UNLOCKER meets your needs
i wanna install this rom: AP Dual 3.0.
ady_uaic said:
hello, i have htc x7500 advantage and i want to install the english wm 6 rom, wwe. first i have to unlock it, right?
I didn't used that. if i will, i don't need anymore athenaunlocker? what's the difference between athenaunlocker and hard-spl from that link?
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If you want the AP3 0r other roms in the sticky made for SPL 1.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518
then you should run the athena wrapper that Olipro has made to be as much foolproof as possible
As he says "your device MUST BE RUNNING WINDOWS MOBLE and MUST BE SYNCED WITH THE PC.
to recap: IF YOU ALREADY HAVE 1.20/1.25, DO NOT USE THIS."
It seems that you must use the same USB port as well.
i have allready downloaded that rom, all i need to know is the difference between that 2 files: activeunlocker and hard-SPL. And, as I saw on a post of that link, i can use one or other from that files. now, tell me, activeunlocker should I copy on PPC? (i will receive it tomorrow, and i want to know what i have to do) Because from PC doesn't work, it gives me an error.
ATHENA UNLOCKER is needed ONLY if you have to unlock the SIM too.
E.G. If your phone, WITH ORIGINAL ROM, can use ANY SIM, you don't need to run ATHENA UNLOCKER
As CMONEX said here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2030747&postcount=81
wrapper is hardspl + customruu
unlocker is hardspl + sim unlocker
SPL means a part of "bios" used ALSO for defining your device language and vendor (HTC, T-Mobile, DOPOD,...) and avodi flashing a "non original" ROM
To flash ANY rom you need to overcome those informations. You can do this running an application, but if something goes wrong during the FLASH and your device doesn't start anymore... you are lost. You can't run the application again, because you haven't the OS!
HARD SPL has been developed to avoid this problem. It is a NEW SPL (1.2 or 3.x) developed from OLIPRO (and CMONEX too for 3.xx) flashed into your device. it is IN the "BIOS" so, even if your OS doesn't start, you can flash ANY ROM
Both, WRAPPER and UNLOCKER will flash HARDSPL. You need only the WRAPPER if your phone can use any SIM!
When you choose the ROM some are build for the SPL 3.x and other using the 1.2 SPL.
With WRAPPER or UNLOCKER you have the 1.2 SPL release, if you want to test a 3.x ROM you need to flash the AP4 rom.
The only differences between SPL 1.2 and 3.x are the "partitioning" of the device. AP4 needs more space for the system files, then the 3.x SPL was developed to increase the System Partition. SPL 3.x flashing IS ONE WAY ONLY, (since Cmonex relase the tool to go back): if you flash AP4 you CAN'T flash any origninal HTC ROM
ady_uaic said:
i have allready downloaded that rom, all i need to know is the difference between that 2 files: activeunlocker and hard-SPL. And, as I saw on a post of that link, i can use one or other from that files. now, tell me, activeunlocker should I copy on PPC? (i will receive it tomorrow, and i want to know what i have to do) Because from PC doesn't work, it gives me an error.
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Listen to what Sergiopi said.
You will always get an error running these programs unless you have an activesync connection to the ppc when you run the program.
The way you were talking I thought you had already tried to run it on your PPC
sergiopi thank you soo much. you are so kind. thank you.
Hi to everybody.
I have an Hermes 200 Vodaphone VPA compact 2 v1605.
I wanna put into this pda the latest Schap's 4.31 ROM.
I have done the mrVanx procedure and I have successfully installed the 2.10 Hard-SPL-V7.
Now I wiil explain my two problems:
- I don't know if my pda is CID unlocked or not... With the HardSpl flashed on my pda, should I be scared about that or not?
I think HardSPL turn my pda into supercid... right?
- If ROM flashing procedure will be stopped by a pc crash, I can unbrick my pda easily? In wich way?
Should I use the mrVanx guide to flash pda or I follow microsd guide?
Many thanks
I should have read the wiki. Either way, and since nobody helped me when i needed and i had to find it all by myself, i know how frustrating it might be. So ill give u hand.
First go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
Download that tool that will superCID ur phone and Hard SPL it automatically. Pay attention to every step.
After that, and since the hard spl installed by that tool is rather old, go here:
http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=26
In the middle of that tuturial u will find the link to the mostly used version of hard spl and how to update ur rom to one of the cooked ones around here.
Soz if my english aint perfect but im not english nor american though.^^
Thanx for reply. But i think you haven't understand my question.
I think my pda is already SuperCID because i have installed the 2.10 HardSPL.
Somewhere in this forum or in the wiki i found that if I flash my pda with 2.10 HardSPL I don't have to use unlocker because this version allow SUPERCID mode.
Am I wrong???
My pda is also already sim unlocked. Infact it is Vodofane (english or german) but i can use TIM italian sim card without problems.
Now my question is:
If I write the schap's ROM with SD procedure, should I scared about RADIO ROM damage?
I found that schap's ROM doesn't modify RADIO, right?
..so i think that SD procedure is the safer way.
Thanks
Not really, most if not all cooked roms DON'T have the radio rom cooked in as there is no perfect rom for everyone, its carrier compliant. Just because a new radio rom comes out doesn't mean its going to improve your reception or battery life, sometimes it causes problems, hence the chefs give you the option of what radio to use.
Now, Hard SPL is only a safety net, things can still go wrong but if they do there is a load of information on how to fix it, ESPECIALLY if you've installed Hard SPL. Make sure its version 7 so the spl reads as 2.10 olipro when you enter bootloader (power button, ok button above flywheel and reset with stylus, hold in until you get to tricolour screen). Just soft reset with stylus to get out.
Personally, as you have Hard SPL, I'd use the sd card method to flash your os. Its on the forum MANY times over. A quick search should find it. VERY EASY and, I believe, safer than using the pc. Just make sure the battery is charged.
Hope this helps....
Cheers....
sfrangebob said:
Hi to everybody.
I have an Hermes 200 Vodaphone VPA compact 2 v1605.
I wanna put into this pda the latest Schap's 4.31 ROM.
I have done the mrVanx procedure and I have successfully installed the 2.10 Hard-SPL-V7.
Now I wiil explain my two problems:
- I don't know if my pda is CID unlocked or not... With the HardSpl flashed on my pda, should I be scared about that or not?
I think HardSPL turn my pda into supercid... right?
- If ROM flashing procedure will be stopped by a pc crash, I can unbrick my pda easily? In wich way?
Should I use the mrVanx guide to flash pda or I follow microsd guide?
Many thanks
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The guide on MrVanx page does not have the images. Is thare a copy of it somewhere with the full ilustrations?
Thanks.
Yes i have HardSPL v7 2.10 installed on my pda.
This mean I'm in supercid mode and I'm able to flash any rom. right?
I haven't to use the sim cid unlcker, right?
I haven't understand this:
At the moment I don't want to change my RADIO ROM.
Latest schap's ROM doesn't modify RADIO so my radio ROM remain the same. Is this true?
If I flash schap's ROM should I to flash a RADIO ROM that works with schap's one? Or does my RADIO continue to work?
sfrangebob said:
Thanks.
Yes i have HardSPL v7 2.10 installed on my pda.
This mean I'm in supercid mode and I'm able to flash any rom. right?
I haven't to use the sim cid unlcker, right?
I haven't understand this:
At the moment I don't want to change my RADIO ROM.
Latest schap's ROM doesn't modify RADIO so my radio ROM remain the same. Is this true?
If I flash schap's ROM should I to flash a RADIO ROM that works with schap's one? Or does my RADIO continue to work?
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I have a brand new hermes since last week and i passed a lot of blocking and stucking in the bootloader. However, the first ROM i installed was Schaps one and on that time i didn't even have my phone Hard SPL'ed or SuperCID'ed! I used that tool of SSPL. But if u say ur phone is already Hard SPL you will have no problems installing the schaps rom. In addition, the RADIO ROM will not be modified with his rom. I must say that besides his ROM was installed perfectly, there are some other cooked ROMs that require your phone to be SuperCID'ed.
Thanks for your reply.
the RADIO ROM will not be modified with his rom
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Is this a good thing or bad one?
I mean: my pda now has no problem about RADIO and I don't want to change nothing about RADIO ROM.
If i flash schap's ROM the pda continue to work well with my RADIO? or the schap's ROM work well with some RADIO ROM an bad with other.
Thanks
You won't change your radio rom and yes it will still work with ANY rom you use (as long as its for the Hermes).
ok!!!
Now it's time to flash.
Thanks a lot!!
good flash^^
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good flash^^
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Thanks.
In your signature i found that you use a CRC's ROM.
Also crc's rom doesn't modify RADIO and can work well on my pda?
sfrangebob said:
Thanks.
In your signature i found that you use a CRC's ROM.
Also crc's rom doesn't modify RADIO and can work well on my pda?
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It works good on mine. And no, it doesnt modify your ROM.
As stated before, the chefs tend to let YOU decide what radio to use... There is no perfect radio rom and location/carrier seems to determine what is the best radio for you.
Cheers...
I put the rom in microsd renamed in HERMIMG.nbh
I start the bootloader withe ok + power + stylus but the flash procedure doesn't start. I have only the bootloader screen with 4 rows:
RED HERM200
IPL-1.04
HERM200
SPL-2.10 OLIPRO
GREEN
BLUE
WHITE SERIAL
what's the matter?
p.s.
I'm using a 2g sandisk
with 1gb microsd sandisk it works!!
Flash successfull!!
Thanks to everybody
sfrangebob, it should work with a 2gb too, It needs to formatted fat32 though.
Congrats and welcome to the wide world of Phone upgrading...
DISCLAIMER - Phone flashing can be addictive....
I know.. I formatted it many times but the flashing operation doesn't start.
With 1 gb it starts on the first attempt.
ahah flash addciction
i think we need a radio update or change it but i don't know how cuz i'm g4 and i think it's CID locked ( i appreciate if u tell me how to know locked or not) i updated the rom with soft spl but the radio i don't know what to do my radio now 02.25.11 and i'm having the cannot excute errors what to dooooo helppppp ?
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i just tried T-Mobile-UK_2.19.11_Radinly and it doesn't start the progress telling me not for u something like that i don't remember
is there is radio official from imate k-jam ?
All of the radio ROMs are official. You just need to download and simply flash one. Since you have a G4, it cannot be CID unlocked, but you can and should apply HardSPL to it so that you can flash more easily than SoftSPL.
ashasaur said:
All of the radio ROMs are official. You just need to download and simply flash one. Since you have a G4, it cannot be CID unlocked, but you can and should apply HardSPL to it so that you can flash more easily than SoftSPL.
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i'm already flashing with soft spl i don't know how to flash with hard spl and i'm afraid form it so is there is a way to flash the radio with soft spl for g4 ??????
No. You need to apply HardSPL first, its a simple process. It doesnt "flash" anything really, it just "updates" the Wizards IPL/SPL to a semi-unlocked version...you needint worry, its been tested and has worked for years.
ashasaur said:
No. You need to apply HardSPL first, its a simple process. It doesnt "flash" anything really, it just "updates" the Wizards IPL/SPL to a semi-unlocked version...you needint worry, its been tested and has worked for years.
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ty for ur support i just didn't want to hard spl for the radio it's a little issue but i'm really gratefull for u thanX
i just hope if there is anything except the hard spl
Nope, without HardSPL it is not possible...why dont you want to HardSPL it anyways?
it's just i liked the soft spl cuz the temporery thing the hard spl u know semi permenant and in the remove hard spl post it doesn't have the imate k-jam spl and ipl so i'm worried a little i thought today about the hard spl and i'm still reading to get it all in my mind to flash any rom (g4 safe) ofcourse with completly fredom that's it by the way my radio 02.25.11 and i want it 2.07.10 my old one or the 2.19.11 this one i want it it's recommended by users i'm very thankfull for u by the way
Well let me ask you this then, are you worried about not being able to remove the HardSPL because of warranty concerns? If so than I understand, but if not, there is really no reason to remove HardSPL after you apply it.
ashasaur said:
Well let me ask you this then, are you worried about not being able to remove the HardSPL because of warranty concerns? If so than I understand, but if not, there is really no reason to remove HardSPL after you apply it.
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naaaah there is no warranty now i just afraid cuz of returning to an official rom
u know sometimes the update process fails and i need to go back to my wizard love or an official imate k-jam rom and i think that's get hard spl complicated and makes some problems am i right or what??? plz notice me
No, HardSPL makes no difference in flashing the Wizard LOVE or carrier ROMs, it in fact makes it easier...no need to put the device in bootloader mode to do it. I am telling you, HardSPL will make your life much easier as far as the Wizard is concerned.
ashasaur said:
No, HardSPL makes no difference in flashing the Wizard LOVE or carrier ROMs, it in fact makes it easier...no need to put the device in bootloader mode to do it. I am telling you, HardSPL will make your life much easier as far as the Wizard is concerned.
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coool thx for ur help i'll sleep now and in like 8 hours i'll read about the hard spl to do it right thx for ur help alot
i wannted to mention that i think from reading that the soft spl and hard spl is the same but the soft spl every time i flash i have to use and i don't think that it is hard or boring so
tell me experts what will happen to my k-jam g4 if i did this
copy the nk.nbf from the RADIO rom and put it in the soft spl folder like we do in Regular Roms to flash it
the nk.nbf from the rom only has a gsm i checked no spl or ipl or extrom or os or splash nothin just gsm
so what will happen to my runing rom TNT 19209 pro
i wanna know if it will addition the gsm only or it will brick my Wizard