I have X7501 without the camera in the front. The device already unlock and phone is fine.
If I want to put AP4 rom in, do I need to unlock the device or just start doing the ROM upgrade. Is the AP4 rom better than original ROM?
A x7501 without cam? Never seen....
But to your question:
Normaly you need unlock your device. Its not the SIm-Lock what you need to unlock, its the SPL. So unlock it first and upgrade then.
crazy cat said:
A x7501 without cam? Never seen....
But to your question:
Normaly you need unlock your device. Its not the SIm-Lock what you need to unlock, its the SPL. So unlock it first and upgrade then.
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The X7501 born without front cam, it isn't a congenital disease
Last part of the question AP4? AP4 is a good but slow rom, also AP3 is better than standard HTC ROM, faster and stable.
AP4 is an evolution with some problems, slower than AP3, and you need to change your ATHENA "partition table" to have it working. AP5 is quickly growing
Until now changing ATHENA partition table is a "non return choice", if you don't like it you can only flash AP3 or IRUS ROM for the newly partitioned ATHENA (SPL 3.5) Cmonex is working at the tool to "revert" the partition to the original one
I will suggest to wait for AP5, if you have time take a tour with AP3, (old SPL) or IRUS WM6.1. If you don't like you can revert to your original one!
sergiopi said:
The X7501 born without front cam, it isn't a congenital disease
Last part of the question AP4? AP4 is a good but slow rom, also AP3 is better than standard HTC ROM, faster and stable.
AP4 is an evolution with some problems, slower than AP3, and you need to change your ATHENA "partition table" to have it working. AP5 is quickly growing
Until now changing ATHENA partition table is a "non return choice", if you don't like it you can only flash AP3 or IRUS ROM for the newly partitioned ATHENA (SPL 3.5) Cmonex is working at the tool to "revert" the partition to the original one
I will suggest to wait for AP5, if you have time take a tour with AP3, (old SPL) or IRUS WM6.1. If you don't like you can revert to your original one!
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I second this.
sergiopi said:
The X7501 born without front cam, it isn't a congenital disease
Last part of the question AP4? AP4 is a good but slow rom, also AP3 is better than standard HTC ROM, faster and stable.
AP4 is an evolution with some problems, slower than AP3, and you need to change your ATHENA "partition table" to have it working. AP5 is quickly growing
Until now changing ATHENA partition table is a "non return choice", if you don't like it you can only flash AP3 or IRUS ROM for the newly partitioned ATHENA (SPL 3.5) Cmonex is working at the tool to "revert" the partition to the original one
I will suggest to wait for AP5, if you have time take a tour with AP3, (old SPL) or IRUS WM6.1. If you don't like you can revert to your original one!
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Makes perfect sense.
So, first unlock to spl1.2.
Then try out AP3, irus' many versions of ROMS.By then, irus version 2 and ap5 vanilla on spl1.2 may have been released. If you still don't like them better, you can always go back to the stock ROM.
I haven't had any performance issues on AP4, so your mileage may vary.
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Hello all. How do I use athenaunlocker? I have download it, and unrar it, and on PC it gives me an error. Should I copy it on memory card, and run it from pda? thank you.
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Hello all. How do I use athenaunlocker? I have download it, and unrar it, and on PC it gives me an error. Should I copy it on memory card, and run it from pda? thank you.
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Hi ady
before we go further I need to know 2 things.
Do you have a HTC athena or variant.
Did you use the wrapper and follow the instructions from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
hello, i have htc x7500 advantage and i want to install the english wm 6 rom, wwe. first i have to unlock it, right?
I didn't used that. if i will, i don't need anymore athenaunlocker? what's the difference between athenaunlocker and hard-spl from that link?
You have to explain WHAT HTC wm6 ROM you want to install First
If you have and old WM5 x7500 just register on www.htc.com and download the HTC OFFICIAL WM6 update for YOUR language!!
ONLY
If your X7500 is SIM LOCKED you need to UNLOCK it first(wrapper isn't for SIM Unlock) and ATHENA UNLOCKER meets your needs
i wanna install this rom: AP Dual 3.0.
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hello, i have htc x7500 advantage and i want to install the english wm 6 rom, wwe. first i have to unlock it, right?
I didn't used that. if i will, i don't need anymore athenaunlocker? what's the difference between athenaunlocker and hard-spl from that link?
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If you want the AP3 0r other roms in the sticky made for SPL 1.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518
then you should run the athena wrapper that Olipro has made to be as much foolproof as possible
As he says "your device MUST BE RUNNING WINDOWS MOBLE and MUST BE SYNCED WITH THE PC.
to recap: IF YOU ALREADY HAVE 1.20/1.25, DO NOT USE THIS."
It seems that you must use the same USB port as well.
i have allready downloaded that rom, all i need to know is the difference between that 2 files: activeunlocker and hard-SPL. And, as I saw on a post of that link, i can use one or other from that files. now, tell me, activeunlocker should I copy on PPC? (i will receive it tomorrow, and i want to know what i have to do) Because from PC doesn't work, it gives me an error.
ATHENA UNLOCKER is needed ONLY if you have to unlock the SIM too.
E.G. If your phone, WITH ORIGINAL ROM, can use ANY SIM, you don't need to run ATHENA UNLOCKER
As CMONEX said here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2030747&postcount=81
wrapper is hardspl + customruu
unlocker is hardspl + sim unlocker
SPL means a part of "bios" used ALSO for defining your device language and vendor (HTC, T-Mobile, DOPOD,...) and avodi flashing a "non original" ROM
To flash ANY rom you need to overcome those informations. You can do this running an application, but if something goes wrong during the FLASH and your device doesn't start anymore... you are lost. You can't run the application again, because you haven't the OS!
HARD SPL has been developed to avoid this problem. It is a NEW SPL (1.2 or 3.x) developed from OLIPRO (and CMONEX too for 3.xx) flashed into your device. it is IN the "BIOS" so, even if your OS doesn't start, you can flash ANY ROM
Both, WRAPPER and UNLOCKER will flash HARDSPL. You need only the WRAPPER if your phone can use any SIM!
When you choose the ROM some are build for the SPL 3.x and other using the 1.2 SPL.
With WRAPPER or UNLOCKER you have the 1.2 SPL release, if you want to test a 3.x ROM you need to flash the AP4 rom.
The only differences between SPL 1.2 and 3.x are the "partitioning" of the device. AP4 needs more space for the system files, then the 3.x SPL was developed to increase the System Partition. SPL 3.x flashing IS ONE WAY ONLY, (since Cmonex relase the tool to go back): if you flash AP4 you CAN'T flash any origninal HTC ROM
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i have allready downloaded that rom, all i need to know is the difference between that 2 files: activeunlocker and hard-SPL. And, as I saw on a post of that link, i can use one or other from that files. now, tell me, activeunlocker should I copy on PPC? (i will receive it tomorrow, and i want to know what i have to do) Because from PC doesn't work, it gives me an error.
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Listen to what Sergiopi said.
You will always get an error running these programs unless you have an activesync connection to the ppc when you run the program.
The way you were talking I thought you had already tried to run it on your PPC
sergiopi thank you soo much. you are so kind. thank you.
Before I get flamed I did search first.
I have SPL 1.2 and have safely loaded new ROMs several times on my x7500.
I note some ROMs are for SPL 3.5 only.
My confusion is that there does not seem to be a generic SPL 3.5 as there is a 1.2 Instead, the SPL 3.5 seems coupled with a particular ROM, like AP 4.0. Or am I dead wrong (which as my wife will tell you happens all the time). If so, can someone just post the link to the generic SPL 3.5. Thanks.
Hi Ghengis
SPL 3.5 came about because the athena project team wanted to port the OS off the new X7510 and it is too big to fit in the current partition on SPL 1.etc.
SPL 3.5 changes the configuration of the OS partition and trying to install the original ROMs does not work, hence the modified SPL 3.5 ROMs.
The Wrapper to instal SPL 3.5 is in the original AP4 updater and so far I don't think it is available elsewhere
hth
Lakeman, thank you. I guess the only way to get SPL 3.5 is to install AP 4.0 first. I guess I'll sit tight and see how the new ROMs shake out. I have the Irus vanilla ROM and it's doing OK. Thanks again.
On a slightly tangential direction. What are the pros and cons of SPL 3.5 over SPL 1.2 other than the fact that there is no going back for SPL 3.5.
tovarish
Advanges? NONE
If you want AP4 or AP5 you need SPL 3.x That's all
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Advanges? NONE
If you want AP4 or AP5 you need SPL 3.x That's all
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except accelerometer, htc album with built-in autorotation, big htc home...
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except accelerometer, htc album with built-in autorotation, big htc home...
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So what is SPL then. Is it like a "bios" for the athena or is it just extremely low level drivers. Pardon my ignorance as I cant understand why the above mentioned things cannot work on SPL 1.2 with the appropriate software.
Please this is a genuine question as I would like to understand the software stack of the Athena.
thanks
tovarish
tovarish said:
So what is SPL then. Is it like a "bios" for the athena or is it just extremely low level drivers. Pardon my ignorance as I cant understand why the above mentioned things cannot work on SPL 1.2 with the appropriate software.
Please this is a genuine question as I would like to understand the software stack of the Athena.
thanks
tovarish
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well htc album and htc home you can use with spl 1.2 but has far as the auto rotate i tried to make it work with the guidance of cmonex with no luck
edit: sorry i forgot this. if you try ap4 spl 1.2 you can have auto rotate but for some reason in that rom u are unable to connect to data.
spl is the secondary program loader [im guessing that, because ipl is intial program loader] it is what loads the os partition of the rom.
What if i want to downgrade to another Radio-ROM if i already upgraded to SPL3.5? The 1.57 Radio doesn't reconnect to network if no signal for more than 1 hour (like at some places at work).
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What if i want to downgrade to another Radio-ROM if i already upgraded to SPL3.5? The 1.57 Radio doesn't reconnect to network if no signal for more than 1 hour (like at some places at work).
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Maybe try hard reseting... I don't have such issues, but I am on SPL 1.2...
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except accelerometer, htc album with built-in autorotation, big htc home...
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The question was, what the advantage was of SPL3.5 over SPL 1.2, not advantage of one ROM over the other. There is no. Only SPL3.5 reformats all the memory in such a way that bigger ROM taken from X7510 (with more apps) can be put in speciall part of memory.
The point is that once you decide that you prefer to use AP4, you will get SPL3.5 with it no matter whether you like it or not. And next thing is that getting it on your machine is one way ticket, up to now, because AP team did not prepare any solution to return back to SPL1.2 nor 1.1.
So if you decide that AP4 or new AP5 beta gives you something you can not resist, then go for it and then wait antill AP team resolves problems with getting back to "standard" SPL1.2. They will do it eventually, just give them some time.
But if you do not want to risk, then go for SPL1.2 and then try some flavour of Irus ROMs which are, some say (including me), also very good if not the best. Luckily AP team and Irus are already working more or less together so we all can gain out of it.
Resently Irus has prepared a thin version of AP4 (meaning removed some apps) to be able to put the ROM in "standard" for X7500 SPL1.2. This means those apps can be installed later from cab installers, but I don't exactly now wich apps he romoved and if there are cabs for them somewere.
I personaly use his first WM6.1 version named "Full"and am very happy with it. I have installed a lot of apps starting from UL, with HTC Home, M$ Live, Google maps (or maybe it was alredy on board),Polish AutoMapa, 2 versions of Opera (both working great), all Resco possible, SPG Plus (now only to have some additions because UL is better), VoIP AgeePhone (I run VoIP network) and many, many more. All works well, no problems and if, then only to find the icon someware.
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What if i want to downgrade to another Radio-ROM if i already upgraded to SPL3.5? The 1.57 Radio doesn't reconnect to network if no signal for more than 1 hour (like at some places at work).
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Just install Radio 1.50. Can use both with AP4.
thanks a lot guys for your informative answer.
I have just bought a 7500 (prefer buttons over ssd) and am in the process of trying out stuff. I just couldnt figure out what SPL was.
I am already checking out irus' wm6.1 vanilla and already i prefer it over ap 3.0.
I appreciate all the responses to this thread I started. I've learned a lot.
I think I will stay with SPL 1.2 for now. But I have a question. If I was inclined to use SPL 3.5, is the only way to get it to first load the AP 4 ROM. So if I wanted to try AP 5, I'd first have to load AP 4? Or does AP 5 also have a wrapper for SPL 3.5, as does AP 4? Thanks.
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But I have a question. If I was inclined to use SPL 3.5, is the only way to get it to first load the AP 4 ROM. So if I wanted to try AP 5, I'd first have to load AP 4? Or does AP 5 also have a wrapper for SPL 3.5, as does AP 4? Thanks.
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Sorry Ghenghis ,As Pawell says
THIS IS FOR SPL 3.5 ONLY!!! IT IS A FULL ROM ALSO AND A BETA
So you have to do AP4 first before trying the other SPL 3.5 ROMs
lakeman said:
Sorry Ghenghis ,As Pawell says
THIS IS FOR SPL 3.5 ONLY!!! IT IS A FULL ROM ALSO AND A BETA
So you have to do AP4 first before trying the other SPL 3.5 ROMs
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Thanks. I wasn't sure because the first post for the AP 5 beta states:
"now here is the rom(remember this is for spl 3.5 only): DOWNLOAD SPL 3.5 ONLY"
But the "DOWNLOAD SPL 3.5 ONLY" link was to AP5.0Beta.rar, which appears to be the AP 5 beta, not SPL 3.5. Hence my confusion.
In any event, thanks for clearing this up.
Last saturday i have upgraded my Touch Dual with the latest official Dutch ROM from HTC. These are my first impressions:
My nike was running with HardSPL v.1.15 and an custom build ROM with the dopod s600 dll inside. After the upgrade my SPL was still showing the same 1.15 version.
At first i thought the performance of the new rom was much slower than the WM6.0 ROM, so i did the following. I reverted back to the original spl that came with this phone (v1.16) using NetrunnersAT instructions and did the flash again. After that the my SPL was showing version 1.22.0000 and the performance of the phone was way better. I'm now very happy with the performance. The only thing i'm now waiting for, is the Hardware 3d drivers to run smoothly on this ROM.
I'm very curious about everyone else's experiences.
For the people how want to flash their branded (vodafone, orange etc etc) touch dual's, follow these steps:
1. download the spl files (flash-uspl-niki.zip & sspl-1.16-nike) from this thread.
2. REMOVE SIM and SD CARDS !!
3. connect usb cable
4. copy sspl-1.16-nike.exe to your device and run it (usb cable must be connected!)
5. after a few seconds "USB" appears on the display
6. unplug and replug the usb cable
8. you can now flash the USPL by running ROMUpdateUtility.exe from flash-uspl-niki
9. after installing the uspl the phone will reboot
10. after that you can flash the new HTC rom update.
Congratulations, you are now running the new Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM, with the new 1.22 SPL and the new 1.65.28.25 Radio rom.
Note: To solve the bug with not getting the sim pincode screen after the upgrade, you have to switch the phone function off and on using the comm manager, or touch the signal icon at the top the screen to make it come back again.
Good ROM, faster than the "old" wm6 ROM.
Yes for me its really faster than the original rom
and it have the Cube
never mind, i looked with my eyes closed, got it from dutch htc webbie
Performance is alot better.
Sux that they removed Microsofts new home screen so that the only "advanced" home screen you got is the same "HTC Home" as in the old version. It would be nice to be able to choose the new home screen that Microsoft have made in WM6.1
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so i did the following. I reverted back to the original spl that came with this phone (v1.16) using NetrunnersAT instructions and did the flash again.
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Anyone else to confirm this?
And how can you flash the update again after reverting back to original spl? Is it because you have an unbranded niki? Mine is from orange, will i be able to flash with spl 1.16?
i was able to flash it again i had a vodafone branded niki
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i was able to flash it again i had a vodafone branded niki
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Is it really necessary to flash the new rom again after reverting back to spl 1.16?
Why flashing spl 1.16 not enough?
Thx
Neliz said:
Last saturday i have upgraded my Touch Dual with the latest official Dutch ROM from HTC. These are my first impressions:
My nike was running with HardSPL v.1.15 and an custom build ROM with the dopod s600 dll inside. After the upgrade my SPL was still showing the same 1.15 version.
At first i thought the performance of the new rom was much slower than the WM6.0 ROM, so i did the following. I reverted back to the original spl that came with this phone (v1.16) using NetrunnersAT instructions and did the flash again. After that the my SPL was showing version 1.22.0000 and the performance of the phone was way better. I'm now very happy with the performance. The only thing i'm now waiting for, is the Hardware 3d drivers to run smoothly on this ROM.
I'm very currius about everyone else's experiences.
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Can u tell me where i can download this ROM or just upload ur ROM to us plz ?~
For those of you who tried it, the video response is slower, equal or better than the dopod s600 dll?
Thank you.
Judge584 said:
Is it really necessary to flash the new rom again after reverting back to spl 1.16?
Why flashing spl 1.16 not enough?
Thx
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In my case, the only way to get the new 1.22 SPl installed. was to revert back to the original 1.16 SPl and then reflash the new rom again. I guess the new update only installs the new spl, if the original 1.16 is installed.
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For those of you who tried it, the video response is slower, equal or better than the dopod s600 dll?
Thank you.
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Hey twolf,
I have the feeling it's even better than the dopod s600 response.
Grtz
I have tried a few things
If you have HardSpl on your device , no new SPL will be flashed.
If you have USpl on your device you will get new SPL (1.22) on your device. No need for Original SPL, USpl is enough.
USpl is always overwritten if you flash a "full" Rom.
I have the feeling if new SPL 1.22 is on the device it's a bit faster than (Hard)SPL 1.15/1.16 could also only be a feeling
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Hey twolf,
I have the feeling it's even better than the dopod s600 response.
Grtz
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hmmmm, thank you, good to know.
New HTC 6.1 on my Niki
the new rom run nice - first the battery consumption is higher compare to other kitchen roms and the general performance is a bit slow.
anyone share same impression?
Until now, my impression is that this rom runs very nice. Performance is just a little bit slower than cooked roms. But my oppinion is, the rom is more stable than cooked ones.
Free Space could be better :-(
~ 105MB Storage
~ 55MB Ram
Battery drain i cant say much to, because i have my nike nearly the whole day connected to my pc.
Signal strength is better tahn old roms.
No problems found so far, al my programs i use are ok.
UPDATE:
I have tested SPL 1.15MFG and 1.22, my feeling 1.22 speeds up the device a bit.
For performance feelings, it would be nice if people could post wich spl they use:
1.15MFG, or 1.22?
There's people telling that the new spl 1.22 make the official wm6.1 upgrade faster and i think it would be interesting to know if this is really the case.
I have hard spl 1.15mfg on my device and running wm6.1 for one day now. Can't really notice any performance gain since. What is the most easy way to get my spl to 1.22 now?
I have upgrade the phone from my wife and I found that after the start the screen where you need to enter your pin code is not there, it only visable for 1 second and then it disapears.
Anyone has the same issue, and what can I do to resolve it.
I've got the same issue. It looks like something is starting over it and put the pin-code screen tot the background. When you touch the signal icon at the top the screen comes back again. If that won't work you can put your phone into flight mode and than into normal mode and your pincode request is there.
I read that I have to install AP4 rom in order to get the spl 3.5 so that I can install wm 6.5!
But even after installing the AP4 rom I still have the Olipro spl 1.20!
How can I get the spl 3.5 in order to install WM6.5?
Thanks!
Hi,
The only way to upgrade SPL1.2 to SPL3.5 is running the AP40 upgrade.
If you follow the v1.8 PDF that explains step by step how to proceed, you will end up with SPL3.5. You will notice that by totally new booting pictures.
Also, you can press CAMERA+RESET and see yourself.
I did it a few days ago and it worked fine.
The downgrade worked as well...
EDIT: I just remembered and confirmed my memory... There are TWO AP40 versions by now. One if for SPL1.2 and the other for SPL3.5.
If you installed AP40 for SPL1.2 then you obviously have a working phone with AP40 but you are still on SPL1.2. That was the WRONG update!
You need to get the AP40 UPGRADE file, which is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387409
Follow the steps EXACTLY and it will work.
Cheers,
vma
Hello,
I have HD2 device with HSPL version 1.42 (the one that allow to burn ROMs),
My question is, do I need to upgrade (if it's possible at all) to 2.10 ? or later?
what are the improvmants on the 2.10 or 2.08 HSPL ?
What is the latest version and how can I know what suits my device?
Thanks
Felix
no, there is no need unless you want to. all non 3.x roms will work on any non 3.03 spl/hspl.
people recommend matching spl to rom, but no one has shown any evidence that it makes a difference.
if you do have a play, go with hspl2. its more useful and user friendly than hspl3. hspl3 is for tmous mainly.
Thanks,
How can I know what ROM do I have?
What is the differance between 1.42 & 2.10 ?
Hello,
you do not need the HSPL for ROM 3.14.
Creates a test GoldCard.
You will see it works very well:
You can put the latest version of the ROM even on a 3.14 HD2 Pack (SFR, Etc. ..) and without HardSPL.
Then do as I installed the ROM example ARTEMIS V43.
Link to GoldCard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5038443&postcount=1
Felix Shats said:
Thanks,
How can I know what ROM do I have?
What is the differance between 1.42 & 2.10 ?
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the spl has some low level interactions with the radio and phone hardware (or something, im not technical)
If they want, the creator can add new instructions/commands to the spl which can be accessed by the rom/phone/radio (again, im kinda making this up, hehe)
However, i have personally run several roms for extended periods, ranging from 1.43, 1.66 and my main cooked rom, based on 2.13, and i have run them all on all three hspls, 1.42.hspl, 1.66.hspl and 2.08.hspl. I have also removed hspl after the flash and run the same roms on 1.42.0000 1.66.0000 and 2.08.0000, with zero noticeable difference.
Things changed with the 3.x roms. I don't know why, but 3.x roms won't run on any spl other than 3.03.0000 (so far) so obviously there have been changes.
Basically, for you, use hspl2 (forget hspl3, the code is the same, only the options changed, and they're not as usefull to regular hd2 owners) and in general you will use 2.08.hspl or 1.66.hspl and if you want to go back to stock some time, use hspl2 again and go for 1.66.0000.
If you want 3.14 roms, or cooked roms based on 3.14, its either get a stock 3.14 for your device, or use a goldcard to get spl3.03.0000 then SSPL to switch different 3.14 roms.
Sorry posted in wrong thread
I moved it to the correct GoldCard thread