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I got this phone a few days ago and I'm already on a modding spree.
Today, I upgraded to SPL-1.40.01ipro and also upgraded the radio to 1.38.00.10.
To continue my modding spree, I wanted to update to the new Cingular ROM (2.06.502.3). I downloaded the package and launced it. I went through the usual ROM upgrading steps (checkboxes, etc.). Finally, at the last screen (before the status bar) I clicked ok, and it popped up a message saying "Verifying PDA information, etc." The phone disconnected from ActiveSync (even quit the program), Windows made the disconnecting sound, and then it made the connecting sound, and my phone went into bootloader mode. It then stayed there until a window popped up on my monitor saying "Error [260]: Update Error".
I searched about Error 260 and all I came up with was program conflicts. I rebooted the computer and tried to exit pretty much every program. Do I not have enough space on the phone?
Anyone have any idea how I can fix this? I searched alot. Thanks
Edit: I am using WinXP Pro, so the Vista issue has no concern.
If it is a standard RUU updater provided by Cingular you need to disable USB connections in activesync first.
Using the customRUU updates provided here (all the WM6 builds and HardSPL...and radio) its the opposite, but try unticking "allow usb connections" in connection settings (in activesync on your pc).
I assume it's the standard RUU, as it does not say CustomRUU on the file.
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I am using this one:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
Cingular English CWS__001 2.06.502.3 02/02/07 ?? 1.33.31.00 32.66.7020.10H 15671.3.3.0 3.3 1.09 108
Should I just do the Ext. ROM ones?
Also, wouldn't disabling the USB connection result in a connection error (since it's not "connected")?
By the way, your upgrade guides are excellent! They really helped with the radio and SPL update.
A few minutes ago, I tried the the SIM unlock/CID unlock .v3 and it does the same thing. Error [206].
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I assume it's the standard RUU, as it does not say CustomRUU on the file.
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I am using this one:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
Cingular English CWS__001 2.06.502.3 02/02/07 ?? 1.33.31.00 32.66.7020.10H 15671.3.3.0 3.3 1.09 108
Should I just do the Ext. ROM ones?
Also, wouldn't disabling the USB connection result in a connection error (since it's not "connected")?
By the way, your upgrade guides are excellent! They really helped with the radio and SPL update.
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I think i might have been confused with using the mtty program, never mind.
The reason your RUU will not work is because you have an upgraded SPL (HardSPL) on your device and it is not recognised by the operator RUU.
The procedure to flash the cingular ROM to your device is the same as in my WM5 Downgrade Guide.
(you might not understand this until youve read the guide)
Just package the OS,Extrom and splashscreens as in the guide and flash with the CustomRUU tool, you will be fine. (follow the guide its all in there). Just to add to that when you come to flashing the repackaged ROM (at the end of the guide) select the 'Autodetect' option when the flashing utility asks what SPL you have.
Thanks for the help so far!
I read another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293085&highlight=error+260
that if I update the ROM a certain way, I will not be able to upgrade the radio afterwards. Is this true for your WM5 downgrading guide? (I am upgrading to AKU3.3 by the way)
Just want to make sure before I do it.
justsignbythex said:
Thanks for the help so far!
I read another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293085&highlight=error+260
that if I update the ROM a certain way, I will not be able to upgrade the radio afterwards. Is this true for your WM5 downgrading guide? (I am upgrading to AKU3.3 by the way)
Just want to make sure before I do it.
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You can change the radio without issue dude. Aslong as you have HardSPLv6 (1.40.olipro) then we will have no problem sorting you out.
The guide is awesome!
But when it comes to this window:
Follow the RUU instructions as usual to flash the WM5 ROM. Select 'Autodetect' when the RUU asks which SPL version you have.
when I select Autodetect it says it cannot query the device and it advises me to pick SSPL. Should I just do that? Activesync is running and connected.
justsignbythex said:
The guide is awesome!
But when it comes to this window:
Follow the RUU instructions as usual to flash the WM5 ROM. Select 'Autodetect' when the RUU asks which SPL version you have.
when I select Autodetect it says it cannot query the device and it advises me to pick SSPL. Should I just do that? Activesync is running and connected.
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select the third option down, then tick hardspl. sometimes it doesnt detect correctly
Thanks alot! Your help has been indisposable.
It's currently flashing as we speak. Will update you as it's done.
It works great, thanks!
justsignbythex said:
It works great, thanks!
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No probs dude
Might wanna give the threads on HardSPL, CustomRUU and maybe the (hermes) rom koch???
The info there is great for future releases of ROM (and also for the techniques used in my guide)
I have same problem, error 260. At same time, after final check. I have made my .nbh with this guide (from Original ROM 2.11.255.1 03/07/07 and 2.05.255.1 01/17/07 ).
I have tryed to update with that guide that I mentioned before on two different computers Win XP sp2 and Win 2000. I have ActiveSync 4.2 on PC and the phone is Vodafone v1605 (with only rom that it has) and I have updated bootloader to 1.40.olipro.
Does this RUUWrapper.exe work with this .nbh allso? I want to upgrade everything to newest, or should I? I didn't find userguide for RUUWrapper or when it should be used.
I also tryed to flash ROM with "ModifiedRUUUpdater-V2", it went little bit further, but it hanged in 0% with error 244
Error 260 continuted
hello
I had the same issue, Error: 260. I have a hermes TyTn, WM6. I have tried to follow the steps on the downgrade to WM5 but have some issues. There is a warning to do the HardSPL first because this would prevent the unit from being bricked, but i am doing this because I can't do the Hard SPL. Secondly the Hermes RomKoch by dutty can not be found at the link provided. please help!
Try this method:
First go to this mode:
http://rt002nf0.eresmas.net/TodoPDAs200/bootloader01.jpg
And finally run ruuwrapper. This helps me.
error 260
I am getting the same error 260 message when I try to upgrade as well. I read several threads with different solutions and none of them worked for me. The link in this forum pointing to the downgrade guide does not work. I've tried on 2 different Vista Ultimate machines with no success. The funny thing is, I upgraded one of my 8525s on one of these machines with no problem, but this new 8525 I received today isn't playing nice. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Install Hard SPL V7, then use sd card method to install ROM.
Go to page 116, post 1160 on this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
for sd card method for Hard SPL.
Just drop the steps using sspl.exe when flashing roms as you would now have Hard SPL installed.
You need a 2Gb or less sd card formatted FAT32 and make no spelling mistakes when renaming .nbh file to hermimg.nbh..
Cheers...
But how do I get the Hard SPL V7 installed. That is the version I was trying to install. I go through the steps and once my phone gets to the bootloader, it disconnects from the WMDC and then the error message. So I need to get past the Hard SPL V7 install first. Any ideas on that?
Thanks ultramag69
ultramag69 said:
Install Hard SPL V7.
Go to page 116, post 1160 on this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
for sd card method for Hard SPL.
You need a 2Gb or less sd card formatted FAT32 and make no spelling mistakes when renaming .nbh file to hermimg.nbh..
Cheers...
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As I said before
Thanks ultramag69 it worked. I appreciate your help. Do you also have a good link for the Windows Mobile 6 download?
Thanks again.
I have X7501 without the camera in the front. The device already unlock and phone is fine.
If I want to put AP4 rom in, do I need to unlock the device or just start doing the ROM upgrade. Is the AP4 rom better than original ROM?
A x7501 without cam? Never seen....
But to your question:
Normaly you need unlock your device. Its not the SIm-Lock what you need to unlock, its the SPL. So unlock it first and upgrade then.
crazy cat said:
A x7501 without cam? Never seen....
But to your question:
Normaly you need unlock your device. Its not the SIm-Lock what you need to unlock, its the SPL. So unlock it first and upgrade then.
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The X7501 born without front cam, it isn't a congenital disease
Last part of the question AP4? AP4 is a good but slow rom, also AP3 is better than standard HTC ROM, faster and stable.
AP4 is an evolution with some problems, slower than AP3, and you need to change your ATHENA "partition table" to have it working. AP5 is quickly growing
Until now changing ATHENA partition table is a "non return choice", if you don't like it you can only flash AP3 or IRUS ROM for the newly partitioned ATHENA (SPL 3.5) Cmonex is working at the tool to "revert" the partition to the original one
I will suggest to wait for AP5, if you have time take a tour with AP3, (old SPL) or IRUS WM6.1. If you don't like you can revert to your original one!
sergiopi said:
The X7501 born without front cam, it isn't a congenital disease
Last part of the question AP4? AP4 is a good but slow rom, also AP3 is better than standard HTC ROM, faster and stable.
AP4 is an evolution with some problems, slower than AP3, and you need to change your ATHENA "partition table" to have it working. AP5 is quickly growing
Until now changing ATHENA partition table is a "non return choice", if you don't like it you can only flash AP3 or IRUS ROM for the newly partitioned ATHENA (SPL 3.5) Cmonex is working at the tool to "revert" the partition to the original one
I will suggest to wait for AP5, if you have time take a tour with AP3, (old SPL) or IRUS WM6.1. If you don't like you can revert to your original one!
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I second this.
sergiopi said:
The X7501 born without front cam, it isn't a congenital disease
Last part of the question AP4? AP4 is a good but slow rom, also AP3 is better than standard HTC ROM, faster and stable.
AP4 is an evolution with some problems, slower than AP3, and you need to change your ATHENA "partition table" to have it working. AP5 is quickly growing
Until now changing ATHENA partition table is a "non return choice", if you don't like it you can only flash AP3 or IRUS ROM for the newly partitioned ATHENA (SPL 3.5) Cmonex is working at the tool to "revert" the partition to the original one
I will suggest to wait for AP5, if you have time take a tour with AP3, (old SPL) or IRUS WM6.1. If you don't like you can revert to your original one!
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Makes perfect sense.
So, first unlock to spl1.2.
Then try out AP3, irus' many versions of ROMS.By then, irus version 2 and ap5 vanilla on spl1.2 may have been released. If you still don't like them better, you can always go back to the stock ROM.
I haven't had any performance issues on AP4, so your mileage may vary.
Guys...
I am planing to upgrade my dopod 838pro (hermes100) to 6.1
I am using WM6.0 now. After using few mounths..,i felt the phone become so slow. And the rom memory is only 3.00mb left.
therefore i wanna reinstall the 838pro...
however,i don't know which one of ROM i can use
and...also the steps...
please...help
I am using wm6.1 pdaviet rom download from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390603
and found very fast. try this one
Steps:
1 - Do hard spl v7 before updating rom from below link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
2 - After Downloading rom run RUU utility and install by selecting spl 2.02/2.10/2.30 new bootloader and follow steps
i tried and error[260] exsist.
it said that i am not connect USB well.
Try sd card method. You will have to have Hard SPL on your Hermes though. REALLY don't understand why anyone wouldn't....
Cheers...
Hello all. How do I use athenaunlocker? I have download it, and unrar it, and on PC it gives me an error. Should I copy it on memory card, and run it from pda? thank you.
ady_uaic said:
Hello all. How do I use athenaunlocker? I have download it, and unrar it, and on PC it gives me an error. Should I copy it on memory card, and run it from pda? thank you.
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Hi ady
before we go further I need to know 2 things.
Do you have a HTC athena or variant.
Did you use the wrapper and follow the instructions from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
hello, i have htc x7500 advantage and i want to install the english wm 6 rom, wwe. first i have to unlock it, right?
I didn't used that. if i will, i don't need anymore athenaunlocker? what's the difference between athenaunlocker and hard-spl from that link?
You have to explain WHAT HTC wm6 ROM you want to install First
If you have and old WM5 x7500 just register on www.htc.com and download the HTC OFFICIAL WM6 update for YOUR language!!
ONLY
If your X7500 is SIM LOCKED you need to UNLOCK it first(wrapper isn't for SIM Unlock) and ATHENA UNLOCKER meets your needs
i wanna install this rom: AP Dual 3.0.
ady_uaic said:
hello, i have htc x7500 advantage and i want to install the english wm 6 rom, wwe. first i have to unlock it, right?
I didn't used that. if i will, i don't need anymore athenaunlocker? what's the difference between athenaunlocker and hard-spl from that link?
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If you want the AP3 0r other roms in the sticky made for SPL 1.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518
then you should run the athena wrapper that Olipro has made to be as much foolproof as possible
As he says "your device MUST BE RUNNING WINDOWS MOBLE and MUST BE SYNCED WITH THE PC.
to recap: IF YOU ALREADY HAVE 1.20/1.25, DO NOT USE THIS."
It seems that you must use the same USB port as well.
i have allready downloaded that rom, all i need to know is the difference between that 2 files: activeunlocker and hard-SPL. And, as I saw on a post of that link, i can use one or other from that files. now, tell me, activeunlocker should I copy on PPC? (i will receive it tomorrow, and i want to know what i have to do) Because from PC doesn't work, it gives me an error.
ATHENA UNLOCKER is needed ONLY if you have to unlock the SIM too.
E.G. If your phone, WITH ORIGINAL ROM, can use ANY SIM, you don't need to run ATHENA UNLOCKER
As CMONEX said here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2030747&postcount=81
wrapper is hardspl + customruu
unlocker is hardspl + sim unlocker
SPL means a part of "bios" used ALSO for defining your device language and vendor (HTC, T-Mobile, DOPOD,...) and avodi flashing a "non original" ROM
To flash ANY rom you need to overcome those informations. You can do this running an application, but if something goes wrong during the FLASH and your device doesn't start anymore... you are lost. You can't run the application again, because you haven't the OS!
HARD SPL has been developed to avoid this problem. It is a NEW SPL (1.2 or 3.x) developed from OLIPRO (and CMONEX too for 3.xx) flashed into your device. it is IN the "BIOS" so, even if your OS doesn't start, you can flash ANY ROM
Both, WRAPPER and UNLOCKER will flash HARDSPL. You need only the WRAPPER if your phone can use any SIM!
When you choose the ROM some are build for the SPL 3.x and other using the 1.2 SPL.
With WRAPPER or UNLOCKER you have the 1.2 SPL release, if you want to test a 3.x ROM you need to flash the AP4 rom.
The only differences between SPL 1.2 and 3.x are the "partitioning" of the device. AP4 needs more space for the system files, then the 3.x SPL was developed to increase the System Partition. SPL 3.x flashing IS ONE WAY ONLY, (since Cmonex relase the tool to go back): if you flash AP4 you CAN'T flash any origninal HTC ROM
ady_uaic said:
i have allready downloaded that rom, all i need to know is the difference between that 2 files: activeunlocker and hard-SPL. And, as I saw on a post of that link, i can use one or other from that files. now, tell me, activeunlocker should I copy on PPC? (i will receive it tomorrow, and i want to know what i have to do) Because from PC doesn't work, it gives me an error.
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Listen to what Sergiopi said.
You will always get an error running these programs unless you have an activesync connection to the ppc when you run the program.
The way you were talking I thought you had already tried to run it on your PPC
sergiopi thank you soo much. you are so kind. thank you.
Before I get flamed I did search first.
I have SPL 1.2 and have safely loaded new ROMs several times on my x7500.
I note some ROMs are for SPL 3.5 only.
My confusion is that there does not seem to be a generic SPL 3.5 as there is a 1.2 Instead, the SPL 3.5 seems coupled with a particular ROM, like AP 4.0. Or am I dead wrong (which as my wife will tell you happens all the time). If so, can someone just post the link to the generic SPL 3.5. Thanks.
Hi Ghengis
SPL 3.5 came about because the athena project team wanted to port the OS off the new X7510 and it is too big to fit in the current partition on SPL 1.etc.
SPL 3.5 changes the configuration of the OS partition and trying to install the original ROMs does not work, hence the modified SPL 3.5 ROMs.
The Wrapper to instal SPL 3.5 is in the original AP4 updater and so far I don't think it is available elsewhere
hth
Lakeman, thank you. I guess the only way to get SPL 3.5 is to install AP 4.0 first. I guess I'll sit tight and see how the new ROMs shake out. I have the Irus vanilla ROM and it's doing OK. Thanks again.
On a slightly tangential direction. What are the pros and cons of SPL 3.5 over SPL 1.2 other than the fact that there is no going back for SPL 3.5.
tovarish
Advanges? NONE
If you want AP4 or AP5 you need SPL 3.x That's all
sergiopi said:
Advanges? NONE
If you want AP4 or AP5 you need SPL 3.x That's all
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except accelerometer, htc album with built-in autorotation, big htc home...
gtm55 said:
except accelerometer, htc album with built-in autorotation, big htc home...
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So what is SPL then. Is it like a "bios" for the athena or is it just extremely low level drivers. Pardon my ignorance as I cant understand why the above mentioned things cannot work on SPL 1.2 with the appropriate software.
Please this is a genuine question as I would like to understand the software stack of the Athena.
thanks
tovarish
tovarish said:
So what is SPL then. Is it like a "bios" for the athena or is it just extremely low level drivers. Pardon my ignorance as I cant understand why the above mentioned things cannot work on SPL 1.2 with the appropriate software.
Please this is a genuine question as I would like to understand the software stack of the Athena.
thanks
tovarish
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well htc album and htc home you can use with spl 1.2 but has far as the auto rotate i tried to make it work with the guidance of cmonex with no luck
edit: sorry i forgot this. if you try ap4 spl 1.2 you can have auto rotate but for some reason in that rom u are unable to connect to data.
spl is the secondary program loader [im guessing that, because ipl is intial program loader] it is what loads the os partition of the rom.
What if i want to downgrade to another Radio-ROM if i already upgraded to SPL3.5? The 1.57 Radio doesn't reconnect to network if no signal for more than 1 hour (like at some places at work).
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What if i want to downgrade to another Radio-ROM if i already upgraded to SPL3.5? The 1.57 Radio doesn't reconnect to network if no signal for more than 1 hour (like at some places at work).
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Maybe try hard reseting... I don't have such issues, but I am on SPL 1.2...
gtm55 said:
except accelerometer, htc album with built-in autorotation, big htc home...
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The question was, what the advantage was of SPL3.5 over SPL 1.2, not advantage of one ROM over the other. There is no. Only SPL3.5 reformats all the memory in such a way that bigger ROM taken from X7510 (with more apps) can be put in speciall part of memory.
The point is that once you decide that you prefer to use AP4, you will get SPL3.5 with it no matter whether you like it or not. And next thing is that getting it on your machine is one way ticket, up to now, because AP team did not prepare any solution to return back to SPL1.2 nor 1.1.
So if you decide that AP4 or new AP5 beta gives you something you can not resist, then go for it and then wait antill AP team resolves problems with getting back to "standard" SPL1.2. They will do it eventually, just give them some time.
But if you do not want to risk, then go for SPL1.2 and then try some flavour of Irus ROMs which are, some say (including me), also very good if not the best. Luckily AP team and Irus are already working more or less together so we all can gain out of it.
Resently Irus has prepared a thin version of AP4 (meaning removed some apps) to be able to put the ROM in "standard" for X7500 SPL1.2. This means those apps can be installed later from cab installers, but I don't exactly now wich apps he romoved and if there are cabs for them somewere.
I personaly use his first WM6.1 version named "Full"and am very happy with it. I have installed a lot of apps starting from UL, with HTC Home, M$ Live, Google maps (or maybe it was alredy on board),Polish AutoMapa, 2 versions of Opera (both working great), all Resco possible, SPG Plus (now only to have some additions because UL is better), VoIP AgeePhone (I run VoIP network) and many, many more. All works well, no problems and if, then only to find the icon someware.
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What if i want to downgrade to another Radio-ROM if i already upgraded to SPL3.5? The 1.57 Radio doesn't reconnect to network if no signal for more than 1 hour (like at some places at work).
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Just install Radio 1.50. Can use both with AP4.
thanks a lot guys for your informative answer.
I have just bought a 7500 (prefer buttons over ssd) and am in the process of trying out stuff. I just couldnt figure out what SPL was.
I am already checking out irus' wm6.1 vanilla and already i prefer it over ap 3.0.
I appreciate all the responses to this thread I started. I've learned a lot.
I think I will stay with SPL 1.2 for now. But I have a question. If I was inclined to use SPL 3.5, is the only way to get it to first load the AP 4 ROM. So if I wanted to try AP 5, I'd first have to load AP 4? Or does AP 5 also have a wrapper for SPL 3.5, as does AP 4? Thanks.
GenghisKhent said:
But I have a question. If I was inclined to use SPL 3.5, is the only way to get it to first load the AP 4 ROM. So if I wanted to try AP 5, I'd first have to load AP 4? Or does AP 5 also have a wrapper for SPL 3.5, as does AP 4? Thanks.
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Sorry Ghenghis ,As Pawell says
THIS IS FOR SPL 3.5 ONLY!!! IT IS A FULL ROM ALSO AND A BETA
So you have to do AP4 first before trying the other SPL 3.5 ROMs
lakeman said:
Sorry Ghenghis ,As Pawell says
THIS IS FOR SPL 3.5 ONLY!!! IT IS A FULL ROM ALSO AND A BETA
So you have to do AP4 first before trying the other SPL 3.5 ROMs
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Thanks. I wasn't sure because the first post for the AP 5 beta states:
"now here is the rom(remember this is for spl 3.5 only): DOWNLOAD SPL 3.5 ONLY"
But the "DOWNLOAD SPL 3.5 ONLY" link was to AP5.0Beta.rar, which appears to be the AP 5 beta, not SPL 3.5. Hence my confusion.
In any event, thanks for clearing this up.