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Update on 24.12.10 - My phone hasn't frozen or switched off on it's own since I made these changes! The battery life constantly stays real good. I have only charged my battery up to 100% TWICE in 4 days!! I think this trick works! I will really appreciate if more testers come forward and help us test this
What will this mean?
This will mean that we can make TG01 battery stay minimum of 24 hours and maximum upto 38-40 hours with good amount of browsing, calls, texts, games, ALSO keep exchange sync on forever!!
In total before my battery completely died, I was able to do the following:
2357 minutes of stand-by (includes the activities as well)
137 minutes of browsing
3 Downloads (total less than 10MB)
180 minutes of calls
36 text messages
21 email downloads using Exchange sync - that was ON all the time
60 minutes of gaming
18 pictures taken using camera
12 minute video recorded using camera
1 round of back up and virus scan
This is what I've done:
Installed SPB Shell here
Removed Taskbar (was a cab file in miROM4 that I am using)
Removed Start Menu (I have attached cab that I used to remove start menu)
Before you remove start menu or taskbar - PLEASE make sure you have full functioning SPB Shell installed. You will loose WinMo start menu and notifications (see attached pic) so you will rely solely on SPB Shell ONLY
On miROM4 by removing start menu and taskbar the original free RAM (96MB) increases upto 105+MB - I don't know how, I don't know why. This is my observation and testing!When you install SPB Shell, you will notice the RAM going down to 78-80MB on boot. - I don't think it's bad either.
Now you might wonder what's so different.
Someone did an experiment showing that by running apps the battery drain was 20% compared to stock ROM
Another experiment also led to show that battery drain mostly is not a ROM issue
I am no tech, I am no expert. This is my pure observation and my experimentation with TG01. I know the links I've quoted are for HTC mainly, but I suppose theory still stays. If any one is willing to replicate those experiments on their TG01 please feel free to collaborate with me.
I have updated all my uses on TG01 between 100% battery and 0% battery.
After 100% charging the battery,
Just to re-fresh what I have done with it apart from leaving it on 'stand-by'
I am running SPB Shell with it.
Using Opera 10 browser for facebook, bing, google (approx browsing 97 minutes till now)
I have read news on Evening standard and BBC (approx time 35 minutes till now)
I have downloaded recipe for 2 cocktails
I have made 6 (appox. 147 minutes in total) phone calls
I have sent 31 text messages
My active sync is on since 10pm as I have set my exchange email retrieval 'as item arrives' - so it has downloaded 14 email items at different times. Experiments have shown that results are quite bad when it comes to using Exchange Active Sync schedule 'as item arrives'
I have played Sudoku (about an hour)
I have left my backlight at 70% (on SPB you have an option)
My battery life after 18 hours 30 minutes is 80% with free ram of 78-80% without any processes running i.e. on stand-by!!
1 call (33 minutes long)
5 text messages
2 games (56 minutes total) of puzzle
Facebook using Opera 10 (updated status, replied few messages, browsed mainly)
Downloaded tube map from a website using Opera 10
Took about 18 pictures using TG01
Cleaned RAM, Virus scanned and did an online back up.
After 27 hours 22 minutes - my battery life remaining is 50%
Made 0 phone calls, 0 texts
My active sync downloaded 7 emails
I checked XDA website for about 20 odd minutes using Opera 10
I used facebook for 10 minutes using Opera 10
I recorded a video of length 12 minutes
All this time my wifi and data connections were switched 'ON'
39 hours 17 minutes - my battery is 0% and my TG01 switched off!!
Putting all these links together, I think if ROMs don't affect the battery drain, but by removing these two elements if my phone survives in adverse conditions i.e. exchange email (shown above link) and running apps/games (shown above link) - then it had to be either of these two elements or settings behind them that drain our TG01's battery!
EDIT: Yes, Oly after removing taskbar, when we press on 'Start button' it freezes the mobile. We don't need to remove battery to get rid of the freeze. Just few seconds and it comes back to normal. But to avoid that occuring, I used the attached cab. That cab removes start menu from the face of my WinMo. PS: This cab is NOT my creation. I have found it on XDA. ALL the credit for this cab goes to NRGZ28 - this cab will prevent making RegEdits
THUMBNAILS' LEGENDS:
1) How the 'Today' screen looks without taskbar and Start Menu Icon
2) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
3) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
4) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
5) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
6) How the SPB home screen looks without taskbar
drupad2drupad said:
OK GUYS .....
Removed start menu
Removed taskbar.
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Sounds exciting! How did you remove start menu and task bar?
Pere said:
Sounds exciting! How did you remove start menu and task bar?
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I had DarkNinja task bar pre installed as cab from miROM4 - I removed it. It sort of 'disables' the start menu, but after that I removed start menu using one of the 'remove start menu keep x button' cabs and then eventually even removed 'x' button most programs respond to <- key at bottom.
I could attach cabs if you want but basically removing taskbar will remove all your icons on top and just leave the clock - it makes SPB Shell look nicer as well!
It been 27 hours and 21 minutes as I type and my phone's battery is 50%. I am going to edit the amount of tasks I have done in these 27 hours.
Hey drupa2drupad! Nice thread! I'm using similiar methods to you, but my battery is still awful! what battery are you on? Im on the stock toshiba one... i have spb shell running, opera 9.7 for abt 10-15 minutes, and the battery is 90% and opera 9.7 is meant to be more friendly for the battery,,, i have also diasabled the start emnu... i have had this layout for many months now and cannot reach battery levels as good as yours!
olyloh6696 said:
Hey drupa2drupad! Nice thread! I'm using similiar methods to you, but my battery is still awful! what battery are you on? Im on the stock toshiba one... i have spb shell running, opera 9.7 for abt 10-15 minutes, and the battery is 90% and opera 9.7 is meant to be more friendly for the battery,,, i have also diasabled the start emnu... i have had this layout for many months now and cannot reach battery levels as good as yours!
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Hi Oly,
I am using stock toshiba as well - the one that came with my phone.
Did you remove the taskbar too? I am meaning to upload a screenshot of how my phone looks without taskbar. I am inclined to believe it's got something to do with removal of taskbar more than removing start menu. I have tried removing start menu on it's on and I had same result - Opera 10, draining 10% every 20 to 30 minutes of browsing.
I had desire taskbar installed as cab, I removed it! I am going to get some screen shots in first post
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
drupad2drupad said:
Hi Oly,
I am using stock toshiba as well - the one that came with my phone.
Did you remove the taskbar too? I am meaning to upload a screenshot of how my phone looks without taskbar. I am inclined to believe it's got something to do with removal of taskbar more than removing start menu. I have tried removing start menu on it's on and I had same result - Opera 10, draining 10% every 20 to 30 minutes of browsing.
I had desire taskbar installed as cab, I removed it! I am going to get some screen shots in first post
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Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
Nice thread
gizmogeeker said:
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
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Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
olyloh6696 said:
Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
Nice thread
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Probably, the battery difference is due to the start menu alone and not the taskbar because he removed both.
olyloh6696 said:
Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
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That's weird, I've got winmo 6.5.5 and the start menu disable works for me...
gizmogeeker said:
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
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Thanks!! I liked what I was experimenting and I thought more than 1 person analyzing what all these means, obviously made more sense
Yeah even Oly suggested he had free RAM (15MB) on disabling start menu so am sure about RAM now. I did use Wifi most of the time as well as data connection when I used Opera 10 for browsing. Did not disconnect data connection because it reconnected immediately - reason being my exchange sync set to 'retrieve as item arrives'
My start menu is SPB Menu as well Looks cooler, non-WinMo sort as well
olyloh6696 said:
Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
Nice thread
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Thanks Oly!
I don't know if taskbar has got much to do with battery, but I did see quite a few reg-entries i.e. magnification etc - do they relate to taskbar? By removing taskbar, do I essentially switch these flickers off? Do you think anything i.e. notifications etc are being cached in ram as well? (non-educated guess!)
olyloh6696 said:
Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
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I have attached the cab in first post - this is the one I used to get rid of 'start' button completely. Yes my phone did freeze for few seconds to upto a minute, but came back to normal as soon as my screen locked! But after this cab, no problem at all! I think you can definitely have SPB menu as start menu - as it has got everything you need! I have 6.5.3 miROM4 as well and I was able to do it and use it flawlessly. I will try to put some more screenshots
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That's weird, I've got winmo 6.5.5 and the start menu disable works for me...
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Probably, the battery difference is due to the start menu alone and not the taskbar because he removed both.
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+1 and then -1
I agree it has to be start menu but don't know if it's alone because Oly has disabled start menu for quite a few months now and he din't seem to notice this drastic change :s
If you guys see any changes by removing taskbar (if you are going to ) then please post back, may be we could be improving our battery lives
drupad2drupad said:
Thanks!! I liked what I was experimenting and I thought more than 1 person analyzing what all these means, obviously made more sense
Yeah even Oly suggested he had free RAM (15MB) on disabling start menu so am sure about RAM now. I did use Wifi most of the time as well as data connection when I used Opera 10 for browsing. Did not disconnect data connection because it reconnected immediately - reason being my exchange sync set to 'retrieve as item arrives'
My start menu is SPB Menu as well Looks cooler, non-WinMo sort as well
Thanks Oly!
I don't know if taskbar has got much to do with battery, but I did see quite a few reg-entries i.e. magnification etc - do they relate to taskbar? By removing taskbar, do I essentially switch these flickers off? Do you think anything i.e. notifications etc are being cached in ram as well? (non-educated guess!)
I have attached the cab in first post - this is the one I used to get rid of 'start' button completely. Yes my phone did freeze for few seconds to upto a minute, but came back to normal as soon as my screen locked! But after this cab, no problem at all! I think you can definitely have SPB menu as start menu - as it has got everything you need! I have 6.5.3 miROM4 as well and I was able to do it and use it flawlessly. I will try to put some more screenshots
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I agree it has to be start menu but don't know if it's alone because Oly has disabled start menu for quite a few months now and he din't seem to notice this drastic change :s
If you guys see any changes by removing taskbar (if you are going to ) then please post back, may be we could be improving our battery lives
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hi drupad! sorry i had a typo in my other post... i was meant to say i can sucessfully disable the start menu on 6.5.3/6.5.5 , but i cannot get it to open up the spb menu in the spb settings. there is no option for it... i will try and post screenshots soon! also i have been using this technique for months and having noticed a battery performance increase because i thought it was to do with the ROM i changed from ... i guess it does make a big difference! i will try and disable my task bar and report back! im not to sure if disabling the task bar stops your notifications caching in the RAM. perhaps someone else could help us out?
hi drupad ! just reading through your first post again, the guy who created the cab is NRGZ28. he is one of the most respected members of XDA! he creates his energy rom series for like all htc devices and updates them all once a week!
olyloh6696 said:
hi drupad ! just reading through your first post again, the guy who created the cab is NRGZ28. he is one of the most respected members of XDA! he creates his energy rom series for like all htc devices and updates them all once a week!
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Thanks a lot for that mate will update first post tonight when I reach home! I wish more users could test this and give feedback.
I might have just made this battery issue 'not so severe' any more with these observations!!
Another thing I just realized is I haven't restarted my phone at all - The last time I switched off my phone was when I completely ran out of battery during this 'experiment'!
My phone seems to have stopped freezing. Its 4th day now!!
drupad2drupad said:
thanks a lot for that mate will update first post tonight when i reach home! i wish more users cud test this and give feedback. we might have just made this battery issue 'not so severe' any more!!
Another thing I just realised is I havent restarted my phone at all! My phone seems to have stopped freezing. Its 4th day now!!
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thats great! we can solve the problem with the freezing on wm! dont worry, more users will come soon!
olyloh6696 said:
thats great! we can solve the problem with the freezing on wm! dont worry, more users will come soon!
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updated!
Also, did the poll we talked about
drupad2drupad said:
updated!
Also, did the poll we talked about
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nice! thanks drupad
Hi.
I do not belive in miracles in electricty area but decided to sacrifice myself and test miROM4. I remove wm start by mirolg .cab "miROM_MMLauncher_Mod_Startmenu_Replacement.cab" and removed "Dark NInja Android xxxxxx". I did only "natural" test so far, by configuring SPB for my purposes
what took several minutes of time and battery has lost 20% . ( in my appinion quite normal for 1000mAh battery because of backlight was still on and few minutes of GPRS and Wi-Fi was done and this is what I observed on any ROM I tested so far).
Anyway, now I am charging battery to 100% and will do some more tests.
What annoy me after removing task bar is that I have not any information whether I have active GPRS or Wi-Fi connection and I have not any speed mechanism to disconnect ( what could be done very simply via notification bar). Have You got any idea what to with it ? Maybe SPB has any widget for it ?
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi.
I do not belive in miracles in electricty area but decided to sacrifice myself and test miROM4. I remove wm start by mirolg .cab "miROM_MMLauncher_Mod_Startmenu_Replacement.cab" and removed "Dark NInja Android xxxxxx". I did only "natural" test so far, by configuring SPB for my purposes
what took several minutes of time and battery has lost 20% . ( in my appinion quite normal for 1000mAh battery because of backlight was still on and few minutes of GPRS and Wi-Fi was done and this is what I observed on any ROM I tested so far).
Anyway, now I am charging battery to 100% and will do some more tests.
What annoy me after removing task bar is that I have not any information whether I have active GPRS or Wi-Fi connection and I have not any speed mechanism to disconnect ( what could be done very simply via notification bar). Have You got any idea what to with it ? Maybe SPB has any widget for it ?
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fxdjacentyfxd
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Hi fxdjacentyfxd
I din't really look into monitoring speed of connections. I used widgets to mIake sure how much battery I have, if I am connected to wifi or not. When I was connected to data connection - I just checked if I am connected or not by using 'Connections' in the settings.
I am keeping my backlight at 30% now most of the time. I have seen even 10% makes it better, but my eyes don't really like that dark so I keep it 30%. May be that will help as well?
I have used it this way since - and also changed to miROM10 now, and still don't charge my battery at least before 30 hours of use! - which I find to be good battery life for daily smart phone use
Good luck and thanks for trying this, will wait for your feedback
drupad2drupad said:
I din't really look into monitoring speed of connections. I used widgets to mIake sure how much battery I have, if I am connected to wifi or not. When I was connected to data connection - I just checked if I am connected or not by using 'Connections' in the settings.
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Some software are able to connect via GPRS automatically and disconnect too after exit ( Palringo ) but most of them not. So I would like to have such fast way to disconnect ( I did not check - battery is still charging in shutdown - but mentioned "Connections" have not ability to disconnect from GPRS ?. As I remember there are three fields Phone, BT and W-Fi. Wi-Fi shows connected or not and one can switch-off wi-fi . It is not the same as as disconnect but better this than nothing.
Phone only shows that whole GSM radio is on not GPRS connection.
Anyway, maybe You know any kind of software that allows to manage GPRS-Wi-Fi. It does not has to be in upper bar. It is enough I will put it on SPB window.
drupad2drupad said:
I am keeping my backlight at 30% now most of the time. I have seen even 10% makes it better, but my eyes don't really like that dark so I keep it 30%. May be that will help as well?
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Yes in my oppinion ( I was dealing with other "small" devices like PNA and PDA ) backlight is factor thar can dramatically make battery live longer. No wonder , it requires a lot of energy.
I guess that You ensured very good conditions for Your experiemnts. I mean very good quality of GSM and Wi-Fi signal which may cause the transcievers on tg01 could work with low power. It is in my oppinion second main factor. In bad conditions GSM can "eats" even 1-2 W of power.
drupad2drupad said:
I have used it this way since - and also changed to miROM10 now, and still don't charge my battery at least before 30 hours of use! - which I find to be good battery life for daily smart phone use
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Do You want to say that with miROM10 You have the same good result as with miROM4 without removing task bar and wm menu ?
Recently I tested miROM11 ( as mirolg said there are only minor changes in comparison to miROM10 ) but I am rather disappointed. Not stable. Eats battery as any other ROM.
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fxdjacentyfxd
Hey guys just got a few quick questions, I know there is a likelihood this has been discussed elsewhere but I've not found the resources.
As much as I enjoy seeing a green battery icon ... it isn't of much use without a value. What's the best way to change this icon BUT without flashing a custom ROM, I like my ROM the way it is.
It appears I messed up in uninstalling the apk files ont he stock ROM as I removed the Task Manager, what apps can I use o replace this. I just want something I can use to switch between apps and is BOUND to the home button (long press).
I'm considering removing the camera app and sticking with Camera360 as my ONLY camera app, would this be a good idea. I'm assuming the latter has the originals feature set and much much more so I'm not losing anything at all. Given I've updated the firmware the quality should improve regardless of which app I use right?
Can someone please explain to me why there are 4 voice apps?
On my Desire I remember I could tell the phone NOT to sleep if it were charging, but I can't seem to find this option anywhere, does anyone know the exact location or is there an alternative app?
Is it just me, or does the normal OTA software update option not work? I tried it several times yesterday and I either got a failed connection or it just hung and did nothing ...
On my Desire I had a custom ROM and when I pressed the off button I got an option to reboot, any idea where I can get that option back?
I know since 2.2 they removed the vib->silent->normal settings when changing volume but I really need to use silent sometimes anyone know a way round this?
That's most of my questions for now, thanks for your help guys :-D.
This is interesting because I am very interested in most of these questions as well. Here is my opinions on each.
As much as I enjoy seeing a green battery icon ... it isn't of much use without a value. What's the best way to change this icon BUT without flashing a custom ROM, I like my ROM the way it is.
-There is battery icon mods, search for it in the Theme section
It appears I messed up in uninstalling the apk files ont he stock ROM as I removed the Task Manager, what apps can I use o replace this. I just want something I can use to switch between apps and is BOUND to the home button (long press).
-The only Rom I know of that can change the long press of the home button is CM7.
I'm considering removing the camera app and sticking with Camera360 as my ONLY camera app, would this be a good idea. I'm assuming the latter has the originals feature set and much much more so I'm not losing anything at all. Given I've updated the firmware the quality should improve regardless of which app I use right?
-The camera app is safe to remove. I would try Titanium and freeze it first if you're worried.
Can someone please explain to me why there are 4 voice apps?
-You might want to detail these better.
On my Desire I remember I could tell the phone NOT to sleep if it were charging, but I can't seem to find this option anywhere, does anyone know the exact location or is there an alternative app?
-I do this through tasker.
Is it just me, or does the normal OTA software update option not work? I tried it several times yesterday and I either got a failed connection or it just hung and did nothing ...
-Dont know
On my Desire I had a custom ROM and when I pressed the off button I got an option to reboot, any idea where I can get that option back?
-I dont think this comes in the stock rom. I'm on Cognition which has it.
I know since 2.2 they removed the vib->silent->normal settings when changing volume but I really need to use silent sometimes anyone know a way round this?
-CM7
Altimas said:
This is interesting because I am very interested in most of these questions as well. Here is my opinions on each.
As much as I enjoy seeing a green battery icon ... it isn't of much use without a value. What's the best way to change this icon BUT without flashing a custom ROM, I like my ROM the way it is.
-There is battery icon mods, search for it in the Theme section
It appears I messed up in uninstalling the apk files ont he stock ROM as I removed the Task Manager, what apps can I use o replace this. I just want something I can use to switch between apps and is BOUND to the home button (long press).
-The only Rom I know of that can change the long press of the home button is CM7.
I'm considering removing the camera app and sticking with Camera360 as my ONLY camera app, would this be a good idea. I'm assuming the latter has the originals feature set and much much more so I'm not losing anything at all. Given I've updated the firmware the quality should improve regardless of which app I use right?
-The camera app is safe to remove. I would try Titanium and freeze it first if you're worried.
Can someone please explain to me why there are 4 voice apps?
-You might want to detail these better.
On my Desire I remember I could tell the phone NOT to sleep if it were charging, but I can't seem to find this option anywhere, does anyone know the exact location or is there an alternative app?
-I do this through tasker.
Is it just me, or does the normal OTA software update option not work? I tried it several times yesterday and I either got a failed connection or it just hung and did nothing ...
-Dont know
On my Desire I had a custom ROM and when I pressed the off button I got an option to reboot, any idea where I can get that option back?
-I dont think this comes in the stock rom. I'm on Cognition which has it.
I know since 2.2 they removed the vib->silent->normal settings when changing volume but I really need to use silent sometimes anyone know a way round this?
-CM7
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I actually just found this one for KF3 so I'm going to test it in a moment
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215413
As per the camera, backups aren't my concern more of getting the best quality and featureset.
I will look into tasker, though I was looking for something very light as I only need this one feature.
Rather stick with stock ROM for now, at least until I get a JIG
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
Sorry about that thanks.
Just as a quick update, reinstalled the Task manager app and placed the apk back in the system/app folder and it seems to work. Also the battery icon has been updated and looked great :-D.
[*]As per the camera, backups aren't my concern more of getting the best quality and featureset.
I think you underestimate Titanium, it does more than backups.
Oh I don't use Titanium for my backups, I like always starting from fresh, so my contacts, etc are backedup but apps and settings I always prefer doing from scratch.
I tried Camera 360 and unless I'm mistaken the quality seemed LESS than the default app, which was a let down. Maybe I will try again.
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Hey guys just got a few quick questions, I know there is a likelihood this has been discussed elsewhere but I've not found the resources.
As much as I enjoy seeing a green battery icon ... it isn't of much use without a value. What's the best way to change this icon BUT without flashing a custom ROM, I like my ROM the way it is.
I like CM7 battery indicator reads a clear number .
jje
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karan999's KF3 stock ROM with CF-Rooted KF3 kernel works perfectly, only concern is I feel like when I'm using the browser that the % drops like a rock in contrast to when I'm just doing normal activities like calls and text. In fact I can speak for quite some time and there's hardly a % change.
O and O said:
karan999's KF3 stock ROM with CF-Rooted KF3 kernel works perfectly, only concern is I feel like when I'm using the browser that the % drops like a rock in contrast to when I'm just doing normal activities like calls and text. In fact I can speak for quite some time and there's hardly a % change.
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When you are browsing with WiFi in Stock browser then battery drains at a rate of 1% per 3/4 minutes. Try Opera, it's a little bit of less hogger
Regards.
I've been using 3G/HSDPA, no WiFi access here. I think on data it is about that about of % decrease for me. I can survive with it as I don't browse on the go much but at home it feels like a disappointment.
Anyone figured out how to replace the task manager for long press home button?
This ROM is working very well on my UK Rhod 100. Very stable & fast and since the latest update I have the correct HW keyboard layout. Battery life is limited but carrying a second battery is an easy solution.
The previous problems where the screen would not turn on after several pushes of the power button almost never occurs. However when the battery runs down to about 30% the screen always changes such that a red overlay occurs visible mainly on screens with a white background (see pics). Also when the screen changes ghost images remain from previous screens. Also at this point sometimes the screen will not turn on despite repeated use of the power button. Strangley, even though there is nothing visible on the screen I can unlock the phone by swiping in the expected area (and get haptic feedback) and long press the power button and turn off the device by pressing in the expected areas. Upon a reboot the screen will initially be back to normal but then if the battery is below 30% the problem will return. These issues never occur if the battery is above 30%. If I take screenshots with shootme the pics captured look normal when viewed after a reboot before the problem recurs. Not sure what the system does when the battery falls to this level but the screen is definitely affected. This problem also occurs with a fresh install with no apps installed.
If anyone has any ideas as to what could be the cause (and even better a solution) it would be most welcome. Thanks to all those behind this project.
Sorry you are having troubles. Unfortunately as noted in the first post for that thread we only have RHOD400s to test with. No one else has reported any similar issues. The 100s are known to be the problem children of the RHOD family. If you come up with a fix let us know, and we will try to include it in any future releases.
wizardknight said:
Sorry you are having troubles. Unfortunately as noted in the first post for that thread we only have RHOD400s to test with. No one else has reported any similar issues. The 100s are known to be the problem children of the RHOD family. If you come up with a fix let us know, and we will try to include it in any future releases.
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Did you look at ACL's work on RE'ing that panel code...?
He said something about the panel power up/power down sequence on the 100's (the AUO panel specifically) to be quite a bit different.
arrrghhh said:
Did you look at ACL's work on RE'ing that panel code...?
He said something about the panel power up/power down sequence on the 100's (the AUO panel specifically) to be quite a bit different.
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arrrghhh, I noted your post in the ROM development thread regarding the start up sequence in the OMGB kernel for the AUO panel. Perhaps this would solve my issue as well. If this change could be added to the next edition of this ROM my device would be virtually bug free.
As noted in the thread, we do not have any RHOD100s to test with. It is very unlikely that this will happen. If you would like to make your own kernel with these changes I can post it.
issue or not?
hi,
thanks a lot, first of all.
I've been trying to figure out how to get an Italian keyboard layout.
any suggestion?
-p.
paolora999 said:
hi,
thanks a lot, first of all.
I've been trying to figure out how to get an Italian keyboard layout.
any suggestion?
-p.
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try using AItype Keyboard Plus which supports multiple languages and keyboard layouts
Sorry I didn't express myself properly. I meant the physical keyboard. In other thread I read something about a startup.txt file, I don't know if it applies to this ROM (and moreover I can't find it).
paolora999 said:
Sorry I didn't express myself properly. I meant the physical keyboard. In other thread I read something about a startup.txt file, I don't know if it applies to this ROM (and moreover I can't find it).
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startup.txt files are only for the SD card versions of the android roms.
You would need to edit the keyboard map. Here is generic android keyboard map info.
There may be apps out there than can change your keyboard map, but I don't know any details about that.
Also in the future it would be best to start your own thread, rather than using an unrelated one. Better yet, post the questions about the rom you are working with in the thread for that rom.
i am having also a screen problem with that Rom and Kernel:
My screen is not calibrated. When i press it's being pressed on somewhere else on the screen.
P.S.
My RAM is not 100 +- this rom showing me 33 for usage on the device :S.
Can someone help me with those two ?
MTN_Cool said:
i am having also a screen problem with that Rom and Kernel:
My screen is not calibrated. When i press it's being pressed on somewhere else on the screen.
P.S.
My RAM is not 100 +- this rom showing me 33 for usage on the device :S.
Can someone help me with those two ?
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Did you read the link that covered screen calibration listed under related goodies, or did you search for the threads that cover screen calibration under android? Tell us what you have tried, but didn't work.
No idea what you mean by the ram is not 100.
What the heck is going on here? Is this just the thread to jack?
Let's focus on the display issues please folks, as in your response should be related to the original post.
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What the heck is going on here? Is this just the thread to jack?
Let's focus on the display issues please folks, as in your response should be related to the original post.
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idc if they will move my question the the original one...
but i can't fix my calebration points...every time i need to launch the HTC program :\
Problem resolved?
akk29 said:
This ROM is working very well on my UK Rhod 100. Very stable & fast and since the latest update I have the correct HW keyboard layout. Battery life is limited but carrying a second battery is an easy solution.
The previous problems where the screen would not turn on after several pushes of the power button almost never occurs. However when the battery runs down to about 30% the screen always changes such that a red overlay occurs visible mainly on screens with a white background (see pics). Also when the screen changes ghost images remain from previous screens. Also at this point sometimes the screen will not turn on despite repeated use of the power button. Strangley, even though there is nothing visible on the screen I can unlock the phone by swiping in the expected area (and get haptic feedback) and long press the power button and turn off the device by pressing in the expected areas. Upon a reboot the screen will initially be back to normal but then if the battery is below 30% the problem will return. These issues never occur if the battery is above 30%. If I take screenshots with shootme the pics captured look normal when viewed after a reboot before the problem recurs. Not sure what the system does when the battery falls to this level but the screen is definitely affected. This problem also occurs with a fresh install with no apps installed.
If anyone has any ideas as to what could be the cause (and even better a solution) it would be most welcome. Thanks to all those behind this project.
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In an attempt to bring this thread back on topic I thought I'd report back that the original problem has not happened for a few weeks. My setup is essentially unchanged, the only change is that I have been using One Power Guard to try and improve battery life, which by the way seems to be effective. Managed 13hours with light use (few calls/occassional data for email web browsing)
Anyway it could be coincidence but it is possible that one of the tweaks performed by the app has sorted this issue. Since nobody else has reported the same problem I'm not sure how useful this info is but hopefully it may be of use to someone.
I purchased my SGS3 about 4 months ago from the middle-east.
I have a series of problems (possibly problems cause I am new to Android phones). I am listing them down here in hope that someone will tell me how to solve them.
The flash of blue
This happened once or twice about a month ago. Whenever I pressed the power button to unlock the phone, the complete screen went solid blue for a flash of a second and then I saw the flower on the home screen.
Is this a hardware issue ? Signs of failing hardware ?
The home screen redraw / lag issue
When I press the home button to exit an app, say Chrome, the screen re-draws itself. The icons take some time to show up back on the screen.
Initially I thought it was related to cache being full. However, cleaning it using ES Task Manager was of no help. The re-drawing continues.
I also disabled the SVoice on double-click home button. No
I saw a YouTube video which says that there is a bug fix but it is available only for UK phones.
Here is the video: /watch?v=5uYw3mVhiuY
Again, is it a failing GPU ?
The grainy screen
Title says it all. The screen seems to be grainy. The grains seems to be more visible under low brightness and on grayish backgrounds. I tested the screen using the screen tester that comes with ES Task Manager. When the color goes to whitish-gray, I can see the grains. They are in bands - horizontal and vertical.
Low quality display
This is not related to grainy screen. This is related to the pulling down of notification menu.
I happened to pull it down slowly while goofing around.
I noticed that the quality of the display gradually reduces as I pull it down. When my finger is near the last one-third of the screen, I see that blue color gets split into bands. A little further down, it looks like the background is some very low quality image.
The bit depth seems to be reducing, if that is a proper term.
Low RAM even on idle
Even when I use ES Task Manager to kill the apps, all I usually have remaining is 323 MB of the 800 MB of RAM that is there in the phone.
Why ?
Lag when opening settings
There is also a lag when I open different settings from settings menu.
If I click on the battery settings, there is a visible lag before the actual battery information pop up.
I know that was a lot of rant but being a beginner, I have no clue how to go about solving any of these.
Thanks for reading.
I hope you can help me solve most of these. If not, please let me know if I should return the phone to Samsung.
As for usage, very light use for casual gaming, web browsing, YouTube videos, reading books.
I haven't dropped the phone at all nor have I modded it in any way.
I have tested it using AnTuTu and it gives my phone 16000+ points. Does that indicate phone is fine ?
Basics read first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344125
Critical you read the first two posts .
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JJEgan said:
Basics read first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344125
Critical you read the first two posts .
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So, sir, you are basically saying that I must root the phone ?
littleandroidkid said:
So, sir, you are basically saying that I must root the phone ?
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No i am saying read and understand the basics first .as you dont have a clue
Then search for your problems .
Or take the phone to s service centre and let them see multiple problems .
Though your warranty is initially with the seller Samsung warranty is an extra limited warranty .
littleandroidkid said:
I purchased my SGS3 about 4 months ago from the middle-east.
I have a series of problems (possibly problems cause I am new to Android phones). I am listing them down here in hope that someone will tell me how to solve them.
The flash of blue
This happened once or twice about a month ago. Whenever I pressed the power button to unlock the phone, the complete screen went solid blue for a flash of a second and then I saw the flower on the home screen.
Is this a hardware issue ? Signs of failing hardware ?
this happens for everyone no matter what! this just appears randomly and this isn't any problem so far!
The home screen redraw / lag issue
When I press the home button to exit an app, say Chrome, the screen re-draws itself. The icons take some time to show up back on the screen.
Initially I thought it was related to cache being full. However, cleaning it using ES Task Manager was of no help. The re-drawing continues.
I also disabled the SVoice on double-click home button. No
it depends mostly on the background processes! the less they are, the less the lag will be.
I saw a YouTube video which says that there is a bug fix but it is available only for UK phones.
Here is the video: /watch?v=5uYw3mVhiuY
this firmware is way too old buddy! it's 4.0.4! we are already nearer to 4.3! the XXEMG4 and the later firmwares are the latest and there is much less lag when you press the home button like redrawing of apps.
Again, is it a failing GPU ?
The grainy screen
Title says it all. The screen seems to be grainy. The grains seems to be more visible under low brightness and on grayish backgrounds. I tested the screen using the screen tester that comes with ES Task Manager. When the color goes to whitish-gray, I can see the grains. They are in bands - horizontal and vertical.
can't answer this! i have no such problems.
Low quality display
This is not related to grainy screen. This is related to the pulling down of notification menu.
I happened to pull it down slowly while goofing around.
I noticed that the quality of the display gradually reduces as I pull it down. When my finger is near the last one-third of the screen, I see that blue color gets split into bands. A little further down, it looks like the background is some very low quality image.
The bit depth seems to be reducing, if that is a proper term.
this never happened to me and never been reported so far.
Low RAM even on idle
Even when I use ES Task Manager to kill the apps, all I usually have remaining is 323 MB of the 800 MB of RAM that is there in the phone.
Why ?
more free ram? try rooting and use greenify
Lag when opening settings
There is also a lag when I open different settings from settings menu.
If I click on the battery settings, there is a visible lag before the actual battery information pop up.
never happened to me! can't answer this either!
I know that was a lot of rant but being a beginner, I have no clue how to go about solving any of these.
Thanks for reading.
I hope you can help me solve most of these. If not, please let me know if I should return the phone to Samsung.
As for usage, very light use for casual gaming, web browsing, YouTube videos, reading books.
I haven't dropped the phone at all nor have I modded it in any way.
I have tested it using AnTuTu and it gives my phone 16000+ points. Does that indicate phone is fine ?
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benchmarks vary second to second and they don't mean much.
have a good day :good:
Hey, since the new update, the battery indicator in the nitificationbar is not updating / refreshing anymore, id does just always show a full battery, even when there is only like 40% left.
If i restart the phone it will set to the batterylife that is left, for example if i reset at 3/4 of the bettery it will show that but not refresh anymore till i reset again.
Factory reset and so on does not help, seems like a big software issue with the phone here.
if i go to options battery, it will show the right %tage in the options menue.
Also, they said in the patchnotes, that they now implemented a % of the battery in the notificationbar, but there is literally no option to enable that, any idead on where to search for that?
Or nay app recomendations that could help me out here?
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Hey, since the new update, the battery indicator in the nitificationbar is not updating / refreshing anymore, id does just always show a full battery, even when there is only like 40% left.
If i restart the phone it will set to the batterylife that is left, for example if i reset at 3/4 of the bettery it will show that but not refresh anymore till i reset again.
Factory reset and so on does not help, seems like a big software issue with the phone here.
if i go to options battery, it will show the right %tage in the options menue.
Also, they said in the patchnotes, that they now implemented a % of the battery in the notificationbar, but there is literally no option to enable that, any idead on where to search for that?
Or nay app recomendations that could help me out here?
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It's working on mine. It is always set to % , no option to turn off.
I updated by using full time flashed with sp flash. Did you do it with OTA?
mrmazak said:
It's working on mine. It is always set to % , no option to turn off.
I updated by using full time flashed with sp flash. Did you do it with OTA?
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Yes, it made an update in the middle of the night when it got releasen, funny thing is, i turned auto updates off and nearly got late for work, because my phone is also my alarm clock and since it made it´s update on it´s own it reset and needet my passcode to restart.
Nevermind, i usually make a factory reset after an update and most problems are gone by now, for example the multitask bug, it is still there but not all the time and usually only when apps havent been open for a few minutes or from what i´ve seen, it just loasd alot of apps into the RAM and as soon as the 3,9gb are full it just closes all of them, instead of just making enough space and killing the first few that you have had open. I hope they fix that in the next update, but still it is way better than before.
BUt back to the topic. Since the Update, the battery indicator on the right top has a different style but as i mentioned just stays white and shows a full battery all the time, with no option to change it to % like the update log was mentioning.
Before the update it also had no % in the bar but when you moved the bar down there at leas was a % shown, now just a full battery symbol all the time.
But i tried a few different apps now an one just put in % in the battery icon now and also updates : itßs called Battery Percent Enabler, i tried 5 different ones, they did not work, but this just works fine, it is accurate with the battery indicator in the menu.
But i´ll guess i will try and root may phone sooner or later and then i will just flash the newest rom on it anyways.
Just wanted to know if i´m the problem and i just couldent find the menu to activate it, if it was a generell software problem or if it is just a bug since the update.
An other question, do you also have the frontfacing camera but since the update?
People in the umidigi forum and on reddit post about it en mass, i first thought it was a crack in the camera lens but since the update i have it too and people are having it too since the update.
https://ibb.co/RgXSpNJ
Its just one of the pictures of another f1 user since the update, mine has this weird line right in the middle of the camera, but i cant find a crack in the glass or the lense and since it only happened to people since the update do you think they messed something up in the cam software?
I also found a few that state the frontcam is not working at all since the update.
battery indicator
Literally the same issue battery indicator only shows the battery life when first booted, rebooted, or charging. Otherwise the battery does not move. had to install widget off of playstore. Also no percentage on/off even though when you type it in the settings search bar it shows it but redirects you to battery and we'll you guessesd it not there... hope patch comes out soon....
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Literally the same issue battery indicator only shows the battery life when first booted, rebooted, or charging. Otherwise the battery does not move. had to install widget off of playstore. Also no percentage on/off even though when you type it in the settings search bar it shows it but redirects you to battery and we'll you guessesd it not there... hope patch comes out soon....
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Hi, as i already troubleshooted and also kinda fixed it, just get the app i wrote in the first comment and everything should be good.
the only other thing that would help now is to re install the lastest update, since you messed something up while doing so.
or you can just install the app that i told you about.
Many of these little bugs or tweaks would be easily solved if we had an official and working GravityBox for Pie. Shame.
David C.