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Please note that I do not mean to bash dcd or no2chem. He is the best as he releases kitchens and makes good roms. His rom is the first one that I tried back in the day.
Difference not much really in terms of functionality except that dcd's 2.2.x doesn't work correctly and nueROM does.
Looks DCD wins He has a much better looking rom with themes and better dialer and calculator skins.
Extra stuff nueROM has additional tools that allow you to adjust volume, enable extended rom, and update over the air. Also nueROM includes ringtones.
In my opinion if dcd were to port the "Extra stuff" (the first three anyway) and get the sd card working there would be no contest. However, just fixing the sd card issue will make choosing a very tough decision.
Just my two cents and also I hope that this helps newbies choose a ROM to use. Currently I would use nueROM but once dcd fixes the sd problems I will use his.
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
Currently I would use nueROM but once dcd fixes the sd problems I will use his.
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Doesn't no2chem's have the same storage card problems with the nueroms that dcd's have?
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Doesn't no2chem's have the same storage card problems with the nueroms that dcd's have?
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No it doesn't.
I have been using no2chem's nueROM and have not had any problems with the sd card. AFAIK he fixed this a long time ago. I do not use encryption though but dcd's doesn't work with or without encryption and no2chem's does so currently nueROM is better functioning it just doesn't look as pretty. (it looks more like the stock rom.)
Well just to keep things in proportion, DCD has said that alot of his ROM was based off of No2chems rom and xip. DCD has made a great complimentary ROM which he tries to offer the things that No2chem offers and then some things that he doesnt ie: MMS (arcroft) different dialer, commgr, and removes the games etc.
No2chem has mentioned that he relies on our support thru paypal etc becuase he spends alot of time on these ROM projects and im sure finacially it can interfere with work, or if he is in between work.
DCD (i think) has less time becuase of his work and therefore doesnt get the opportunity to spend as much time.
No2chem is awsome at the inner workings of our phone and together (no2chem and DCD, and plus there are many others) that put out great Rom's, it just a matter of what your needs are.
DCD im sure will be updating real soon and Im sure, like stated b4 that it will be tuff to decide which to use, but thats a good thing.
Keep up the great work, dcd and no2chem and all other DEV's!!
the ppc community greatly appreciate all u do!
I have tested both rom, I find that no2chem has better GPS reception than dcd rom. Could be driver different. For DCD, i get 4-5 satellite but for no2chem I get 6-8 satellites. It might be just my phone.
no2chem uses a registry hack to enable a-gps this allows for better reception of gps signals.
Yes, I applied the same registry hack to DCD rom but it doesn't seem to work for me. Is anyone else get it work with DCD?
I'm sure I'm running dcd rom 2.2.6 even though I have download different neurom 5047 roms. My sd card has always worked but i have issues running music from the memory card. I'm about to test it again but it has been pretty consistent...I can view information from phone but running is a different story but it may just be me. This issue has happened with GPS today, music and even the new speaker cab.
I've used several roms from both of these guys, and I give hats off to both of them. Strong work! I currently am running dcd's 2.0.0, because I was simply losing too much memory from no2chem's wm6.1 roms. The customization was great, and the responsiveness from the device is very nice with the mw6.1 roms, but the memory leak was just too much for me. dcd's 2.0.0 is the only custom rom (that I know of), other than the leaked sprint, which is wm 6.0
I'm glad to hear that no2check has solved the memory card issues, and I'm sure that dcd's next rom will have the bugs worked out too.
FWIW, I like the way that dcd has choosen to display the clock better than no2chem's style.
i just transferred a song over to my 512 mb card and played through media player. It works! Maybe its my 8 gb that has issue or maybe phone was just glitching at the time. I lost my 8 gb memory card, i'm soo pissed right now, i think it fell under middle console near ebrake hole. Its going to be impossible to find, probably fell out...debating if i should try to find it or order a new one...
Im ready to flash to no2chems but i dont know what to do with the .nbh file or the winrar file... can somebody help me?
I have the latest DCD 2.2.6 Rom and Have absolutely no problem with the sd card. I've ran programs from it, listen to music, installed all of my programs, done hard resets and soft resets and haven't had a single issue with the memory card.
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Im ready to flash to no2chems but i dont know what to do with the .nbh file or the winrar file... can somebody help me?
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Check the threads, Google XDA... http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
Willybeen said:
Im ready to flash to no2chems but i dont know what to do with the .nbh file or the winrar file... can somebody help me?
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9927
I've tried both ROMS.... I've made custon ROMs from both of them as well.... I've also never had any issue with an SD card with DCD, except 1 time. My opinion on the SD issue is that somehow during the constant reading and writing to it, something gets corrupted during the writes and causes it to freeze. no sure if its FAT issue but i reformatted the card to Fat32 and haven't had any issues since. I kept the same ROM on the phone.... It reboots fine with the card IN the phone now since the reformat... As for No2chems, I liked it as well, cept the mem leak issue. It's been a while since I made one from his ROM but I plan to make one tonight from his new basekit, BTW _ thx No2chem , it harder for me to make a custom rom from No2chems than DCD's but all in all, they BOTH have pros and cons, but BOTH are very good choices....
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I have tested both rom, I find that no2chem has better GPS reception than dcd rom. Could be driver different. For DCD, i get 4-5 satellite but for no2chem I get 6-8 satellites. It might be just my phone.
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My guess would be that it's more likely due to a change in time between your other tests in addition to differing cloud cover and/or a slight change in location (indoors this may be a matter of feet). Beyond the leaked Sprint release I don't believe that we've seen any other GPS enabled radio driver. I'd assume that the GPS driver of these ROMs is the same.
Within a half hour I may also notice such a change in satellite reception without any software change on my phone. Be careful against attributing a placebo effect for more likely external causes.
Enabling the A in AGPS is a side issue when the concern is GPS satellites strength. Enabling it offers the potential combination of two separate methods to resolve a location. Enabling the A(ssisted) modes will not increase a unit's resolution of satellites.
When viewing the GPS satellite status within a third party app or the Fieldtrial one sees the signal and timing stats for each satellite to your unit and this GPS function is independent to the additional cell tower assistance modes that may be enabled with the GPSone chipset. A change in settings of the A(ssisted) in AGPS should not affect reception of satellites nor alter the number of visible satellites. A sufficient GPS resolution (3 or more satellites) should always be more precise than an assisted cell tower resolution alone, and negate the need and benefit for such assistance at that time. Two different systems of location resolution that in tandem may increase the dependability of a unit's location, particularly when sufficient satellite reception is spotty or unavailable.
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As for No2chems, I liked it as well, cept the mem leak issue
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2.2.6 has an even bigger memory leak and the SD card problem will arise for those of you not experiencing, it did for me. I was all so very happy until it started happening. Went back to 2.2.0 I am considering 5047 to bad there isn't one specific for VZW.
I've gone back to 2.2.0 from 2.2.6 due to sdcard failures and intellisync / wireless sync starting to fail as well.
Sure appreciate all the work DCD is putting into this. If you're using his work, donate, he deserves it more then your cell company.
I have to give DCD all the credit in the world. His work has been awesome and I really love that he is in this forum working hard all the time. However, I had many problems with 3.1.2 and radio 3.39. Slow GPS among a lot of other things. I am a sprint user and I did everything properly with flashing etc. My phone worked great except for the GPS which was extremely slow. I decided to revert back.
I put virtually all of the blame on radio 3.39. I think that it is still in development therefore it is not ready for release. Also I think that the carrier cabs that need to be installed with 3.1.2 are also an issue.
After reverting back to 3.0.4 and radio 3.35 I can say that things are dramatically improved. My GPS locks in seconds everytime. 3.39 took so long that it was useless. I do not have internet issue nor outlook issues with 3.35 either.
So... I suggest that anyone who is having problems with 3.39 go back to 3.35 radio and also back to dcd3.0.4
I highly suggest that you first install the official sprint 3.35 release and make sure you let the customizations run as well for carrier cabs. Then flash 3.0.4. After flashing do a hard reset to make sure all kinks are out. Stick with radio 3.35 and 3.0.4 if you are having issues with 3.39 and 3.1.2.
I hope any of this made sense. If you do not know what 3.39, 3.35, 3.0.4, or 3.1.2 means then dont touch a thing
I have to give DCD all the credit in the world. His work has been awesome and I really love that he is in this forum working hard all the time. However, I had many problems with 3.1.2 and radio 3.39. Slow GPS among a lot of other things. I am a sprint user and I did everything properly with flashing etc. My phone worked great except for the GPS which was extremely slow. I decided to revert back.
I put virtually all of the blame on radio 3.39. I think that it is still in development therefore it is not ready for release. Also I think that the carrier cabs that need to be installed with 3.1.2 are also an issue.
After reverting back to 3.0.4 and radio 3.35 I can say that things are dramatically improved. My GPS locks in seconds everytime. 3.39 took so long that it was useless. I do not have internet issue nor outlook issues with 3.35 either.
So... I suggest that anyone who is having problems with 3.39 go back to 3.35 radio and also back to dcd3.0.4
I highly suggest that you first install the official sprint 3.35 release and make sure you let the customizations run as well for carrier cabs. Then flash 3.0.4. After flashing do a hard reset to make sure all kinks are out. Stick with radio 3.35 and 3.0.4 if you are having issues with 3.39 and 3.1.2.
I hope any of this made sense. If you do not know what 3.39, 3.35, 3.0.4, or 3.1.2 means then dont touch a thing
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Dude hold on a sec....before you go scaring everyone away from 3.1.2 and 3.39.10....did you say you were on Sprint and had extremely slow GPS?
Sprint users have NO excuse for not having instant locks with GPS. If you would have read the stickies at the top of this forum you would have found your answer for INSTANT GPS locks. It has nothing to do with what rom/radio you're using and EVERYTHING to do with what PRI version you have.
Personally, I have found absolutely nothing wrong with 3.1.2 and 3.39.10 and have used both for a while (no longer using 3.1.2 due to testing new builds, but STILL using 3.39.10).
A little reading of the important stuff goes a long way...
Not trying to scare anyone at all. I just saw that there were some posts about gps stuff and problems. I am in now way taking anything away from dcd or his kitchens/roms. DCD knows that I am a big fan of his and I have also tested his stuff. I am just trying to help those who are having issues, that is all.
Just the same way that we all have different programs that suit our needs, each of the current DCD Roms and other radio options offers some balance to some, and has drawbacks for others.
Some Roms have more beta feel, which gives some an edge and functionality that they can use. Some can't live with the buggy stuff (or figure out workarounds) so they keep what is familiar. This stuff is fun, lets keep it that way and let people brick their phone if they are talented enough to do it.
I went back to 304 myself because i couldn't get NoData working on 312. sounds like a chump reason but at 12$ a mb its a very important program to me. I kept radio 3.39 and have never had trouble with the GPS. Infact, when I compare the acquisition time of the titan to my Garmin Rhino and previous GPS units I'm still amazed at how fast all of the radio ROMs pick up GPS. Its totally comparable to a dedicated GPS unit. However, I'm on Telus.
All of the roms DCD has produced have been far better than stock, so this is in no way a complaint! Keep up the good work guys.
Ps. Is there a NoData like program that works on 3.12?
i've mentioned this before, but while 3.12 and radio 3.39 seem solid, i have experienced the same things. My GPS takes 5-7 minutes to lock, and when it does, it's normally 1/2-1 mile off. I didn't have these issues when i was with 3.04 and 3.37 (Alltel user here), but no complaints, the rest seems solid, so i've lived with GPS since i upgraded.
Like I said in the other thread...we've been working on a gps fix. Testing it now.
Yea I was going to test the GPS fix for 3.39 but I had to go back because I need the GPS too much.
gc14 said:
Like I said in the other thread...we've been working on a gps fix. Testing it now.
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I guess people dont want to read you lol
Thanks for the info!
Yea I was going to test the GPS fix for 3.39 but I had to go back because I need the GPS too much.
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Dude...you have Sprint!! You don't need to test that fix, you HAVE a fix that works. It's posted in the GPS sticky thread AND I made another thread dedicated to it....
My Sprint GPS is almost instant with DCD 3.1.2 and I didn't even have to read a sticky
My Sprint GPS is almost instant with DCD 3.1.2 and I didn't even have to read a sticky
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What is your PRI Version in Device Information?
PRI Version: 2.03_003
PRI Version: 2.03_003
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Ahh see...you have the updated PRI...
Now if all the Sprint users complaining about slow GPS would just read my post....
I've been on 3.04 and 3.35 radio for the whole time... I have no issues with anything. Phoen works great, reception is superb.
I'm sure DCD is cooking some crazy ****, and when he comes out with a major upgrade, but I dont see a need to reflash everytime there is a minor change made.
but I dont see a need to reflash everytime there is a minor change made.
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You do read the changelog right? Did you not see the changes made in 3.1.2 from 3.0.4. I wouldn't say they're "minor"
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Ahh see...you have the updated PRI...
Now if all the Sprint users complaining about slow GPS would just read my post....
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I'm running DCD 3.1.2 Radio 3.39.10 and PRI Ver. 2.00_003 and I get almost instant locks on GPS. I have no problems with GPS locking!!! Must be something in your machine.
I'm running DCD 3.1.2 Radio 3.39.10 and PRI Ver. 2.00_003 and I get almost instant locks on GPS. I have no problems with GPS locking!!! Must be something in your machine.
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....... huh?
Taken from the new official Vogue Ship Rom and ported to the Titan.
Flash with USB using the executable here: (If you already have SPL 2.40/2.47, you MUST downgrade to 1.20 using TitanUnlocker before flashing the radio via USB. When it completes, reflash SPL 2.40/2.47.)
http://rapidshare.com/files/125518524/Titan_Radio_ROM_3.42.30.exe.html
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Flash from Storage Card using TITAIMG.nbh here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/125052225/Titan_Radio_ROM_3.42.30.rar.html
I take no responsibility if you mess up your phone.
In your opinion, would it be better to stick with the 3.42 version of the titan radio, or go with this 3.42 which has a slightly higher revision number from the vogue?
any sort of compatibility issues to worry about?
The radios work cross device. There's always a chance for side effects later on down the road as is the case for anything. I've been running this radio now since this afternoon and have seen no problems. In fact, I've personally seen an improvement. I'm not going to comment whether it's "better" than 3.42.02.
THANKS!
That was quick. I just flashed 3.42.02 last night and was dissapointed in the GPS not locking.
I now have this 3.42.30 flashed and GPS locks on quick!! And I also tried, live search, Google maps, and GPS Speed Sentry. All very fast locks!!
THANKS!
I've noticed a significant increase in GPS performance.
I know that gc has the new PRI, but does froader? Wonder if that has much effect compared to the radio itself.
I'll third that, GPS reception seems much better/quicker so far on 3.42.30 compared to 3.42.02.
kockroach, I'm on the 2.03_003 PRI version.
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oh yeah, where are my manners? Thanks for the release GC!!
Oh for the love of..... I literally JUST finished reloading from scratch so I could get the 3.42.02 on my VZW xv6800. I don't have an SD card (whats wrong with me?) so I had to do the Sprint ROM and then lay DCD 3.2.0 over it.
I came to ask if others had GPS problems with 3.42.02 because GPS in the DCD 3.2.0 & 3.35 radio was working ok.... then I see this thread.
Damn you, gc14, damn you.
So is the SD card still the only way to do the radio without borking the whole thing? I should just go grab one tomorrow, I have no excuse for now having one.
I know that gc has the new PRI, but does froader? Wonder if that has much effect compared to the radio itself.
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I'm on VZW so my PRI means nothing. I noticed an improvement in GPS performance on VZW which says a lot.
So is the SD card still the only way to do the radio without borking the whole thing? I should just go grab one tomorrow, I have no excuse for now having one.
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Hehe yeah especially when Best Buy had a sale the other day for sandisk 1gb cards that comes with micro sd to sd adapter, micro sd to mini sd adapter, and sd to usb adapter all for $17.99.
all i care is that this radio fixes the nissan altima bluetooth for the navigation system owners.
Neither HTC or NISSAN take ownership of this fu%&*%ng mess.
6700 works fine but 6800 doesnt.
dammit i just cracked my 32mb transflash /microsd card.
It doesnt work anymore
Anyone have a mirror, rapidshare is acting up for me.
Try this:
http://tinyurl.com/3qcjxx
Installing this now, thanks GC!
What do you expect to find in the installer when/if Slorizon Wireless updates the Titan? aGPS, drivers, etc?
i like it.
i cant tell if this thing working well is making me happy or the fact that i flashed with a microsd, which i have never been able to do before.
either way, gps seemed to work well from my apt window, will test again tomorow and report back.
cautiously optimistic.
thanks gc
Thanks the mirror worked.
on no2chem 5067
+1 thank you for the mirror.. and for the radio release.
flashed from SD card no problem. no hard reset needed. can't say i notice anything too different, as it's only been about 10 minutes now.
everything seems to work, which is obviously a good sign.
Additional mirrors -
http://www.esnips.com/doc/1808de80-d2f1-4b4d-a308-e6f1c72a80a3/TITAIMG
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8TFTZ9CB
does anyone know why i cannot update on a 16 mb card? its all ive got under 4 gb guess ill be heading down to best buy in the next few days.
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does anyone know why i cannot update on a 16 mb card? its all ive got under 4 gb guess ill be heading down to best buy in the next few days.
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you throw it in your PC and format as FAT32?
other than that i dont have any suggestions.. maybe its just TOO small a card. during the flash, maybe it needs to write back to the card for cache or something.. after format, that card is prolly only 13.9 or so, and this radio image is over 11.. might just not be enough room!
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does anyone know why i cannot update on a 16 mb card? its all ive got under 4 gb guess ill be heading down to best buy in the next few days.
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if you have done everything else right, make sure your battery is over 50%.
yeah i was thinking the exact thing nickles. im just gonna pick up a 512 tomorrah. thanks
edit: i couldve sworn it said it was formatted to fat32. i checked, and it wont format to fat32. the only option is just fat.
I have recently flashed my ROM with dcd 3.2.6 which everything is working great. The only question i really have is how much does the radio have to do with the GPS working faster. It generally takes about 10 minutes before the seeking is done with Google maps, and i was curious if going to a newer radio would effect that at all? Any tips or thoughts would be great.
Thanks
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I have recently flashed my ROM with dcd 3.2.6 which everything is working great. The only question i really have is how much does the radio have to do with the GPS working faster. It generally takes about 10 minutes before the seeking is done with Google maps, and i was curious if going to a newer radio would effect that at all? Any tips or thoughts would be great.
Thanks
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What radio did you flash to the phone?
Edit: I see your signature. I would try 3.42.50 if I were you. None of them are really exceptionally fast from what I've tried... but it does work.
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What radio did you flash to the phone?
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I kept the stock rom 3.37.20 that i had from the last ALLTEL release ROM update. I will try going to the newer radio and see if that improves it any.
Thanks
I updated to the newest radio and it worked great not only is it a touch faster but i was actually able to use the gps inside my office where as i was not able to before.
I recently upgraded from Titan Radio ROM 3.42.30 to Titan Radio ROM 3.42.50 along with DCD 2.3.6.
I noticed my GPS is ALOT more jumpy around buildings when I'm downtown.
Is it possible that an older Radio allows a GPS chip to work better than a newer one? I'm asking because I see alot of people stay with old Radios and I always wonder why.
Anyone at all?
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Anyone at all?
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Not sure. Some say the earlier ones do. You can downgrade anytime. won't hurt any of your other software.
Well, 3.42.50 is ported from a Vogue, so maybe you should try 3.42.40 which is the newest native titan radio.
The radios do not make any difference.... Just find one that "you" perceive to be the best one for you......
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Well, 3.42.50 is ported from a Vogue, so maybe you should try 3.42.40 which is the newest native titan radio.
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Interesting, I just did some more searching and it seems like alot of titan owners are complaining from x.50. Gonna switch to x.40 tonight
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The radios do not make any difference.... Just find one that "you" perceive to be the best one for you......
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I'm not the only one complaining about x.50 and GPS.
I"ve had the same issue with both .40 and .50. From what I remember, .50 skipped so much in some places that it would lose the satellite lock completely for a few seconds to a minute or more when I was using it while in the car. .40 is a little better, it doesn't seem to lose the lock nearly as much, if at all, but it does seem more "jumpy" than .30 was. I am testing .50 again right now to see if anything has changed.
I started with .30 had decent GPS locks, tho it was never under 2 minutes. .50 next, it's GPS was about the same on lock time but did disconnect from time to time, now on .40, still long locks, and in some cases 10+ minutes before it locks, a lot less disconnects.
Why was it we upgraded from .30? Did .40 or .50 offer anything other than slightly better signal? Where I live I can't tell a difference in signal, it just works. Anywhere in my town, even 8 miles out into the county, it just worked.
What would be any downsides with me rolling back to .30? At least it was more consistent on GPS locks.
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