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I have a TomTom Go 910 and an M3100 running WM6.
I have been using the hands-free BT connection with no problem.
However, I recently tried to set up a data connection to access TomTom Plus services through the phone over BT, and the setup routine fails every time. (I have no problem connecting to the internet over WAP from the phone in general).
Of course, TomTom support refuse to help, telling me that the phone is not supported for the 910. According to them I should not even be able to use the hands-free feature...
Before I go spending hours trying different ROMs and BT stacks etc., does anyone out there have the same setup (even with a 710 or 510) and got it to work? (No point wasting time if they are simply not compatible and no one has actually got it to work).
Thanks for your help
My very basic guess is that you need to use the Internet Connection Sharing program on windows mobile, as just paring the devices won't do anything.
So I guess I fire ICS up and and choose Bluetooth PAN and then try to see if TomTom sees it.?
I'll try tonight and report back.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Let us know how it goes. But isn't WM6 lacking either PAN or DUN that's required to establish the connection?
No luck using ICS
Percz said:
My very basic guess is that you need to use the Internet Connection Sharing program on windows mobile, as just paring the devices won't do anything.
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Well, I tried it... no luck. TomTom still insists on going through a DUN setup routine (entering access point, GPRS dial-up number, etc.) and promptly fails both with automatic and manual setup. It does not detect the PAN already running with ICS connected.
I wonder if DUN can be ported back to WM6 with CABs from WM5?
Any other ideas?
Hey all,
So I've got a small issue. I've got a Verizon XV6800 with the MR1 Rom WM6.1, Valhalla GPS server, 3.42.50 Radio.
Internet connection sharing is not working at this point. I've gone through the winmodem and internet connection sharing cab installs, registry edits, etc. None seem to help.
I previously had a ATT tilt 8925 and had no issues whatsoever tethering it to my mac by just pairing the phone, selecting to "Using a direct Higher speed connection to reach your ISP". Starting Internet Sharing on the phone, selecting Bluetooth PAN & the default data connection, then selecting connect. Then selecting "Connect to network" On the mac through the my phone listed in the bluetooth connections. That simple.
Having installed the "Internet Sharing" cab onto the phone. Internet sharing appears to work, but the phone does not advertise this service, like the ATT tilt did on ATT's network.
I've also tried a few registry edits, and used all variations of modem scripts, and got all the dialup info from verizon directly (so I know it was right ) but could not get dialup to work either. Usually not detecting a carrier, other times lockups.
I truely want to get the bluetooth-PAN working again as it did on my tilt. Anyone have this working on the MAc with a XV6800 on verizon?
i did have it working before. I'm wondering if you might be more successful with a custom rom. Verizon installs software (at least previous roms, I haven't tested the MR1 rom) that reverts reg edits and keeps it working like VzW wants it to. This could be causing problems. First check after a soft-reset to make sure your reg edits still exist.
Also I'm sure you've tried this be in Leopard's bluetooth setup delete the phone and try again. You need to select the type of device as any device in order for leopard to see it. Can you connect the device to your mac? Try that first. If you get a BT connection non-internet connection and you change your settings delete the phone and try again. I forget some of the setting I used. Also Engadget had a how to article for BT pan using the xv6700 and Tiger most of the information is still useful. It's a couple years old so you might have a hard time finding it.
Hope some of that helps.
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i did have it working before. I'm wondering if you might be more successful with a custom rom. Verizon installs software (at least previous roms, I haven't tested the MR1 rom) that reverts reg edits and keeps it working like VzW wants it to. This could be causing problems. First check after a soft-reset to make sure your reg edits still exist.
Also I'm sure you've tried this be in Leopard's bluetooth setup delete the phone and try again. You need to select the type of device as any device in order for leopard to see it. Can you connect the device to your mac? Try that first. If you get a BT connection non-internet connection and you change your settings delete the phone and try again. I forget some of the setting I used. Also Engadget had a how to article for BT pan using the xv6700 and Tiger most of the information is still useful. It's a couple years old so you might have a hard time finding it.
Hope some of that helps.
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As mentioned, I have tried a ton of different methods to try and use the data connection, from using dialup settings, to trying to get the Bluetooth Pan working. I've removed and re-paired the device from my mac, flashed roms, hacked away at the registry a ton of times. Nothing seems to give so far.
I've got one more suggestion, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1794133&postcount=29
I'm going to give this a shot tomorrow and will let you know how it goes.
Eponymous069 said:
Hey all,
So I've got a small issue. I've got a Verizon XV6800 with the MR1 Rom WM6.1, Valhalla GPS server, 3.42.50 Radio.
Internet connection sharing is not working at this point. I've gone through the winmodem and internet connection sharing cab installs, registry edits, etc. None seem to help.
I previously had a ATT tilt 8925 and had no issues whatsoever tethering it to my mac by just pairing the phone, selecting to "Using a direct Higher speed connection to reach your ISP". Starting Internet Sharing on the phone, selecting Bluetooth PAN & the default data connection, then selecting connect. Then selecting "Connect to network" On the mac through the my phone listed in the bluetooth connections. That simple.
Having installed the "Internet Sharing" cab onto the phone. Internet sharing appears to work, but the phone does not advertise this service, like the ATT tilt did on ATT's network.
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I was wondering if you be gracious enough to share the Internet sharing CAB i only need to get it to work thought the USB cable and on a windows box, and from what im getting you got that far... JUST not working on a mac...
if thats the case, i would be ever so greatful..
Thanks
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I was wondering if you be gracious enough to share the Internet sharing CAB i only need to get it to work thought the USB cable and on a windows box, and from what im getting you got that far... JUST not working on a mac...
if thats the case, i would be ever so greatful..
Thanks
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You can use the link from the previous post here, and just copy the dll's and exe to the Windows directory, and place teh shortcut into the Device\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\ directory.
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You can use the link from the previous post here, and just copy the dll's and exe to the Windows directory, and place teh shortcut into the Device\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\ directory.
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hey, ok great, i just downloaded the file, Just one question..
The file i downloaded has about a page of Reg Key changes, you didnt mention that in your "thngs to do"
Just want to see if i am to make all those changes or not.
thanks
So, your problem is in getting the internet connection to work and not connecting it to the mac, right? Does your mac recognize the phone as a modem?
If you're using MR1 I think you might need to hard reset and the soft reset right before the Verizon customizations run. You won't be able to run their apps but there won't be software to cripple the phone.
i have the same exact issue i have a new macbook pro and the bluetooth connects however the speed is slower then dial up it works perfectly however on bootcamp apple has to change the drivers
So more results.
I tried all the registry edits, (much easier with CD-Regedit so you can make the changes on your desktop) and now internet sharing does not even allow me to select a connection type, it had worked previously.
The only thing that was missing before I made the registry changes was that when I pair the phone, in the services listed, "Network Access Point" is not one of the listed services. My old phone has this service listed, and this is how I used it, where I started internet sharing on the phone, then selected the bluetooth device (phone) on the mac and selected: "Connect to Network) and it worked flawless.
Back to the drawing board. I'm going to try next to re-flash the MR1 rom and do as Cycomachead suggested and stop verizons customizations from happening.
bryanw17, what were the exact settings you used for dialup on the mac. The modem script used is probably the most important piece.
Number: #777
Username: Phonenumber (or [email protected]????)
Password: (We know this one, not sure if it's legal to post though)
Darn, I wish I could provide more help. It is indeed possible in Leopard, I had it going before I began flashing my phone - and I no longer have a data plan to test, otherwise I'd be using it a lot more!
aparently no one with a new macbook pro can get bluetooth pan to work. I have it connected however the drivers for the new macbook pro do not provide a good connection if you search the mac forums theyve been talking about it on there. I dont use a username n password however because i use the internet sharing app for the moment i am using wmwifirouter to connect online however my xv6800 doesnt charge at the same time for some reason so u can only use it till the battery dies
So some more results.
I installed ICS and all the registry edits. Then the internet Connection Sharing did not function at all. I verified the registry settings, all were fine. So no dice with me.
So back to the drawing board.
I installed a previous rom. DCD 3.2.6, and guess what? From initial flash of the phone and initial setup, no apps installed, no hacking, ICS runs and provides a network connection to my mac perfect. I also instantly notice when I pair it through bluetooth, it allows the option of "Access this device as a network port". And "Network Access point" is listed as an offered service.
I installed newer rom DCD 3.3.4, and the MR1 Rom. Neither have ICS installed initially. I can install the two files: intshare.dll and IntShrUI.exe into the windows directory without any reg edits, and then ICS works on the phone, but then pairing the phone to the Mac, and attempting to discover teh PAN service is unsuccessful. It only is discovered as a Dialup Access device, and not a "Network Access Point".
So, It appears I can get internet Sharing via Bluetooth PAN to function on the phone no matter which rom, but have not figure out how to tell the mac, or trick the mac, into thinking the "Network Access Point" service is available.
I have pulled completed registry dumps with CE-Regedit and compared the differences between the two, which there are quite a few, but not sure how to export these differences with the program so I can apply them to the other roms registry. I guess I might try a fukll backup and then restore to the new(er) rom and cross my fingers.
I'd stay with the 3.2.6 rom. and 3.42.50 Radio, with PRI 2.03, but I can only seem to make the GPS function successfully with the MR1 stock verizon rom.
Anybody want to take the two regs files compare, and see if they can find out where we can make the change to have the phone advertise the service "Network Access Point" when being paired to the mac or PC?
On one last note. I also tried the method of restoring the MR1 official rom, and then not allowing the customizations. ICS will function, but again, not advertising the service: "Network Access Point" when pairing, so it's not recognized as a valid networking method.
Where did you get those files (intshare.dll and IntShrUI.exe) to allow ICS via bluetooth?
Nevermind, I found it on PPCGeeks.
Don't know why DCD disabled the BT DUN on ICS.
I use Missing sync, and I turned on PAN then added my phone and it shoed it as a modem when I added it, but my BT connection is fairly Unrealible compared to the USB teather on Bootcamp
i was under the impression that bt pan has been whacked on macbook pro models starting from early 2008 on. anything earlier than that and it seems to work great. does anyone know why bt pan doesnt work on the newer machines and how to get it to work?
Hello,
I am currently trying both http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1351044&postcount=21 oand the description on http://thinkabdul.com/2007/09/22/ha...ng-dun-profile-on-windows-mobile-6-pocket-pc/ to get the DUN profile to work on my official HTC WM6 ROM (German) on the X7500, however, the DUN profile does not show up whatever I tried.
From what I researched, the bthatci.dll has a hardcoded reference to COMx: (where x comes from HKLM/Software/Microsoft/BTHATCI), but HKLM/ExtModems/bluetooth_dun points to BSP3: (BSP=board support package? function not implemented?). However, I cannot patch bthatci.dll because it is digitally signed by MS and I cannot get it to install via a self-made cab.
The BT DUN profile is important to me because the TomTom Rider motorcycle satnav system cannot use the PAN profile (network sharing).
Anyone able to help?
Greetings,
Andreas
did you find the solution, i'm also trying to find a solution for this
Hi!
The latest version of WMWiFiRouter (1.51) has this functionality (as well as many other futures). Not only it can share 3G\HSDPA connection over Bluetooth, it can even share USB connection over WiFi
WBR, Draco.
Thank you Drakosha, but this uses ICS I think, and the problem is that TomTom Go uses only DUN !!
I tried this WMWIFI, but it didn't work.
Or do I have to uninstall the BT_DUN?
I'm confused ...
Hey all
Used to have an s730 and used it with a Tom Tom 720 with data over the bluetooth connection. I did this by installing the BTDUN.cab that is floating around on these forums. It worked fine for this and never had a problem
My s730 broke and was replaced with a s740. I've installed the same CAB and although TomTom can see it has a data connection it just does not always work. Some days I can't get data at all and other times data only works for 5 mins for dying.
Anyone got any ideas. HTC said the device only support PAN connections vs TomTom's using DUN connections and I said use a different device.
Anyone know if a s730 firmware can be used?
Thanks
AFAIK you cannot (easily and without any trouble) ass DUN bluetooth profile in Windows Mobile 6. There was the cab, but it causes a lot of trouble and is not compatible with all ROMs/devices. Internet access in WM6 is no longer DUN, not it uses Internet Sharing app and PAN profile.
And no, you cannot exchange firmwares between devices. So far you cannot even install any alternative firmware on Rose, because we still do not have HardSPL (but there is one person that is working on this now). But still you should not expect DUN working in WM6.
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Anyone successfully tethered an Archos 5 Internet Tablet with Android to Verizon Touch Pro, so as to get that lovely EVDO Rev A displayed on that nice 4.8 inch screen?
I have an old SSK ROM (probably a good year old). I've tried WMWiFiRouter (Bluetooth and WiFi) and ICS (BT) to no avail. All of these work from my Win7 laptop. Bluetooth option requires just pairing; no config at all.
Apparently one issue is that Android (at least the 1.6 Donut on the Archos) can't connect to WiFi in Ad Hoc mode.
Don't know for sure what the BT issue is. Two things do jump out:
1. phone doesn't show NAP or PAN in the supported profiles in BT settings
2. laptop sees DUN as a profile. Archos doesn't show any listed after pairing
Any idea if one of the nice ROMs out there will help?
Thanks!
Kevin
This would make my year if I can get this working..
Archos 5 (fw:1.7.33)
Verizon Touch Pro 2(wm6.5)
When I try to turn the tether on (on the archos), "Dial-up Networking" in the bluetooth settings of the TP2 appears for the duration of it trying to connect. If the DATA Connection is connected, it will disconnect when you attempt to tether and not even try to reconnect.
So.. The phone sees a dial up connection from the bluetooth but theres a missing link between there and it actually dialing out. I tried wmwifirouter.exe but I cant get the bluetooth to work in that.
Weird thing: While tethering was tring to astablish a connection, I opened IE on the TP2 (to manually connect data) and got the Verizon tethering page (yes, on my phone) asking me sign up.. huh?
I heard from my coworkers that it is possible enable Ad-hoc in Android.. anyone try it with the archos?
jdamore said:
This would make my year if I can get this working..
Archos 5 (fw:1.7.33)
Verizon Touch Pro 2(wm6.5)
When I try to turn the tether on (on the archos), "Dial-up Networking" in the bluetooth settings of the TP2 appears for the duration of it trying to connect. If the DATA Connection is connected, it will disconnect when you attempt to tether and not even try to reconnect.
So.. The phone sees a dial up connection from the bluetooth but theres a missing link between there and it actually dialing out. I tried wmwifirouter.exe but I cant get the bluetooth to work in that.
Weird thing: While tethering was tring to astablish a connection, I opened IE on the TP2 (to manually connect data) and got the Verizon tethering page (yes, on my phone) asking me sign up.. huh?
I heard from my coworkers that it is possible enable Ad-hoc in Android.. anyone try it with the archos?
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Actually, with the latest Archos firmware (1.7.71? last week), it works great for me. After updating, I unpaired and repaired the devices. I use Internet Connection Sharing with BT, and use Archos Tether, and it works quite nicely. The power control widget is helpful here too; sometimes I need to power-cycle the Archos BT, then turn on tether, to get it to work.
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I use Internet Connection Sharing with BT, and use Archos Tether, and it works quite nicely.
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Internet Connection Sharing is a program/setting? Or are you just saying you share internet through bluetooth.. Sorry just being thorough.
haha I'm not surprised there has been an update since 1.7.33. Hopefully that will fix my random reboots.. Ill report later tonight if the update to 1.7.71 helps. Thanks!
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Internet Connection Sharing is a program/setting? Or are you just saying you share internet through bluetooth.. Sorry just being thorough.
haha I'm not surprised there has been an update since 1.7.33. Hopefully that will fix my random reboots.. Ill report later tonight if the update to 1.7.71 helps. Thanks!
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Internet Connection Sharing is a standard Microsoft WinMo program, but it is often dropped from carrier phones. It's pretty easy to find online.
WMWiFiRouter likely also should work in BT mode with 1.7.71, but I haven't tried it.
Kevin.. I'm being an idiot. You have the touch pro and I have the touch pro 2.
Bluetooth on wmwifirouter and on ICS (maybe i have the wrong ICS) seem to be not supported on the TP2. The only options is wifi/usb with wifirouter and usb with ICS
I'm assuming I need a program like those two that will work with bluetooth? I get the message on the TP2 "this device is attempting to connect to the internet" and I accept but still nothing... is this where wifirouter and ics come into play?
BT for ICS and WMWiFiRouter on TP2 vs TP
Odd that ICS and WMWiFiRouter should have less functionality on TP2 WinMo 6.5 than on TP WinMo 6.1...
Maybe you'll want to ping Morose Media (WMWiFiRouter folks) to see if they have any thoughts, as well as ask general ICS question on this site.
What version of WMWiFiRouter (I have 1.25, build 600) do you have?
And where di you get your ICS?
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Odd that ICS and WMWiFiRouter should have less functionality on TP2 WinMo 6.5 than on TP WinMo 6.1...
Maybe you'll want to ping Morose Media (WMWiFiRouter folks) to see if they have any thoughts, as well as ask general ICS question on this site.
What version of WMWiFiRouter (I have 1.25, build 600) do you have?
And where di you get your ICS?
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Oh, I see the following on WMWiFiRouter page. Too bad. Another reason to hold off getting TP2 .
# HTC Touch Pro 2
* AT&T Tilt 2
* HTC Rhodium
* Sprint Touch Pro 2
* Support from version 1.50. Sharing using Bluetooth not currently supported.
Odd that ICS and WMWiFiRouter should have less functionality on TP2 WinMo 6.5 than on TP WinMo 6.1...
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I tried it with both WM6.1 and WM6.5 and its the same thing.
What version of WMWiFiRouter (I have 1.25, build 600) do you have?
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Running 1.6
There must be something unique about the BT on the TP2. Is there a reg hack that Morose Media hasn't even found yet? I'll write to support and see if they have any comments.
And where di you get your ICS?
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sorry i'm a noob.. I cant post links yet but its from ppcgeeks[dot]com
I hope there will be an update for wmwifi.
Might be easier to hack ad-hoc onto the Archos.. know anything about that lol?
jdamore said:
I hope there will be an update for wmwifi.
Might be easier to hack ad-hoc onto the Archos.. know anything about that lol?
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You may want to check out the following thread. I think some of the Android users (e.g. G1) folks may have made some progress, but I don't know if that was on client or server side.
I wrote to morose about the TP2.. heres what they said:
We are looking into supporting the new non-Microsoft Bluetooth stack that comes with the new HTC devices, however unfortunately I cannot give you a date when we might have a beta of this available. All I can say is that the development team is working on it.
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As soon as they have it working ill purchase that minute. In the mean time, I'm going to see if I cant get ad-hoc on the archos..
thanks for the help kevin
jdamore said:
I wrote to morose about the TP2.. heres what they said:
As soon as they have it working ill purchase that minute. In the mean time, I'm going to see if I cant get ad-hoc on the archos..
thanks for the help kevin
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My pleasure... Good luck!
By the way, I asked them about supporting multiple devices over bluetooth, and the next day they gave me a prototype that does it, and they say they will put that into the main product. Now that's service! I love it -- much lower power usage and heat than WiFi, and plenty fast enough for my uses. Should run much longer that way. I'm psyched!
I am in the same boat with an archos 5 android tablet, the HTC touch PRO and sprint as a carrier. let me know if you come up with a work around. I'll do the same.
OKay . maybe i miss read all the posts. Its the HD PRO 2 thats having trouble connecting. I just updated to the 1.7.77 which allowed me to change to PAN and i made sure that PAN was selected in WMWIFIROUTER. All of the other things i left blank, and it connected right up showing a tiny cell phone icon next to my bluetooth icon. It was a very happy moment. I love finding those hidden icons.
Archos 5 Programming problem with PAN/DUN
The problem, and no one take this wrong, is that the technicians at Archos are a bunch of backwards idiots. I emailed them, explained to them that, if they would just rewrite the PAN/DUN menu to be selected previous to pairing, the problem would be solved.
My Sprint Touch Pro will do PAN bluetooth (all day long) even upside down but the idiotic software on the Archos 5 isn't smart enough to detect it so you don't get to use the PAN (which they claim is there), all you see is DUN.
I've used PDANet and gotten results but the connection is SO unstable it's just too irritating to bother.
If more people would write Archos, tell them to change the architecture of the tethering, this tablet would be more along the awesome line.
HOWEVER, because of this little quirk, some electronics magazines wrote the Archos 5 as "One of the tablets that should have NEVER been created" and it's gotten a bad rap because of the engineers.
Heck, even the whole GPS issue, they used an independent software from another company to make it work and while it DOES work, it's often slow to lock-in while standing still sometimes.
Basically i saw write in and tell them to change it. PAN is so much easier to deal with. I've had better luck with the G1 and the HERO but the problem is my current phone is using Windows Mobile 6 and they actually removed the DUN some versions ago for some reason i can't explain and the Microsoft tech couldn't tell me either.
You can hack the DUN in with registry tweaks and support software but there's no guarantee it will work.
#777 to start DUN connection?
I know I am late to this party, but on my 3rd AIT 5 (clearance at Best Buy for 150, but I got open box unit for 125) attempting this with XV6800, and now a new Imagio that tethers (Verizon) just fine with Linux/WinXP/Nokia N810.
The thing I have found with DUN is that it requires the tethered device (PC/AIT/etc) to send the #777 to connect, then authenticate with <phone number>@vzw3g.com for Id, and password of vzw. The tethering setup on the AIT appears to let you do the Id/Password part, but I see no way to get the #777 sent in the first place. Has anyone figured out that part?
TIA
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