Anyone successfully tethered an Archos 5 Internet Tablet with Android to Verizon Touch Pro, so as to get that lovely EVDO Rev A displayed on that nice 4.8 inch screen?
I have an old SSK ROM (probably a good year old). I've tried WMWiFiRouter (Bluetooth and WiFi) and ICS (BT) to no avail. All of these work from my Win7 laptop. Bluetooth option requires just pairing; no config at all.
Apparently one issue is that Android (at least the 1.6 Donut on the Archos) can't connect to WiFi in Ad Hoc mode.
Don't know for sure what the BT issue is. Two things do jump out:
1. phone doesn't show NAP or PAN in the supported profiles in BT settings
2. laptop sees DUN as a profile. Archos doesn't show any listed after pairing
Any idea if one of the nice ROMs out there will help?
Thanks!
Kevin
This would make my year if I can get this working..
Archos 5 (fw:1.7.33)
Verizon Touch Pro 2(wm6.5)
When I try to turn the tether on (on the archos), "Dial-up Networking" in the bluetooth settings of the TP2 appears for the duration of it trying to connect. If the DATA Connection is connected, it will disconnect when you attempt to tether and not even try to reconnect.
So.. The phone sees a dial up connection from the bluetooth but theres a missing link between there and it actually dialing out. I tried wmwifirouter.exe but I cant get the bluetooth to work in that.
Weird thing: While tethering was tring to astablish a connection, I opened IE on the TP2 (to manually connect data) and got the Verizon tethering page (yes, on my phone) asking me sign up.. huh?
I heard from my coworkers that it is possible enable Ad-hoc in Android.. anyone try it with the archos?
jdamore said:
This would make my year if I can get this working..
Archos 5 (fw:1.7.33)
Verizon Touch Pro 2(wm6.5)
When I try to turn the tether on (on the archos), "Dial-up Networking" in the bluetooth settings of the TP2 appears for the duration of it trying to connect. If the DATA Connection is connected, it will disconnect when you attempt to tether and not even try to reconnect.
So.. The phone sees a dial up connection from the bluetooth but theres a missing link between there and it actually dialing out. I tried wmwifirouter.exe but I cant get the bluetooth to work in that.
Weird thing: While tethering was tring to astablish a connection, I opened IE on the TP2 (to manually connect data) and got the Verizon tethering page (yes, on my phone) asking me sign up.. huh?
I heard from my coworkers that it is possible enable Ad-hoc in Android.. anyone try it with the archos?
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Actually, with the latest Archos firmware (1.7.71? last week), it works great for me. After updating, I unpaired and repaired the devices. I use Internet Connection Sharing with BT, and use Archos Tether, and it works quite nicely. The power control widget is helpful here too; sometimes I need to power-cycle the Archos BT, then turn on tether, to get it to work.
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I use Internet Connection Sharing with BT, and use Archos Tether, and it works quite nicely.
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Internet Connection Sharing is a program/setting? Or are you just saying you share internet through bluetooth.. Sorry just being thorough.
haha I'm not surprised there has been an update since 1.7.33. Hopefully that will fix my random reboots.. Ill report later tonight if the update to 1.7.71 helps. Thanks!
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Internet Connection Sharing is a program/setting? Or are you just saying you share internet through bluetooth.. Sorry just being thorough.
haha I'm not surprised there has been an update since 1.7.33. Hopefully that will fix my random reboots.. Ill report later tonight if the update to 1.7.71 helps. Thanks!
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Internet Connection Sharing is a standard Microsoft WinMo program, but it is often dropped from carrier phones. It's pretty easy to find online.
WMWiFiRouter likely also should work in BT mode with 1.7.71, but I haven't tried it.
Kevin.. I'm being an idiot. You have the touch pro and I have the touch pro 2.
Bluetooth on wmwifirouter and on ICS (maybe i have the wrong ICS) seem to be not supported on the TP2. The only options is wifi/usb with wifirouter and usb with ICS
I'm assuming I need a program like those two that will work with bluetooth? I get the message on the TP2 "this device is attempting to connect to the internet" and I accept but still nothing... is this where wifirouter and ics come into play?
BT for ICS and WMWiFiRouter on TP2 vs TP
Odd that ICS and WMWiFiRouter should have less functionality on TP2 WinMo 6.5 than on TP WinMo 6.1...
Maybe you'll want to ping Morose Media (WMWiFiRouter folks) to see if they have any thoughts, as well as ask general ICS question on this site.
What version of WMWiFiRouter (I have 1.25, build 600) do you have?
And where di you get your ICS?
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Odd that ICS and WMWiFiRouter should have less functionality on TP2 WinMo 6.5 than on TP WinMo 6.1...
Maybe you'll want to ping Morose Media (WMWiFiRouter folks) to see if they have any thoughts, as well as ask general ICS question on this site.
What version of WMWiFiRouter (I have 1.25, build 600) do you have?
And where di you get your ICS?
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Oh, I see the following on WMWiFiRouter page. Too bad. Another reason to hold off getting TP2 .
# HTC Touch Pro 2
* AT&T Tilt 2
* HTC Rhodium
* Sprint Touch Pro 2
* Support from version 1.50. Sharing using Bluetooth not currently supported.
Odd that ICS and WMWiFiRouter should have less functionality on TP2 WinMo 6.5 than on TP WinMo 6.1...
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I tried it with both WM6.1 and WM6.5 and its the same thing.
What version of WMWiFiRouter (I have 1.25, build 600) do you have?
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Running 1.6
There must be something unique about the BT on the TP2. Is there a reg hack that Morose Media hasn't even found yet? I'll write to support and see if they have any comments.
And where di you get your ICS?
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sorry i'm a noob.. I cant post links yet but its from ppcgeeks[dot]com
I hope there will be an update for wmwifi.
Might be easier to hack ad-hoc onto the Archos.. know anything about that lol?
jdamore said:
I hope there will be an update for wmwifi.
Might be easier to hack ad-hoc onto the Archos.. know anything about that lol?
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You may want to check out the following thread. I think some of the Android users (e.g. G1) folks may have made some progress, but I don't know if that was on client or server side.
I wrote to morose about the TP2.. heres what they said:
We are looking into supporting the new non-Microsoft Bluetooth stack that comes with the new HTC devices, however unfortunately I cannot give you a date when we might have a beta of this available. All I can say is that the development team is working on it.
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As soon as they have it working ill purchase that minute. In the mean time, I'm going to see if I cant get ad-hoc on the archos..
thanks for the help kevin
jdamore said:
I wrote to morose about the TP2.. heres what they said:
As soon as they have it working ill purchase that minute. In the mean time, I'm going to see if I cant get ad-hoc on the archos..
thanks for the help kevin
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My pleasure... Good luck!
By the way, I asked them about supporting multiple devices over bluetooth, and the next day they gave me a prototype that does it, and they say they will put that into the main product. Now that's service! I love it -- much lower power usage and heat than WiFi, and plenty fast enough for my uses. Should run much longer that way. I'm psyched!
I am in the same boat with an archos 5 android tablet, the HTC touch PRO and sprint as a carrier. let me know if you come up with a work around. I'll do the same.
OKay . maybe i miss read all the posts. Its the HD PRO 2 thats having trouble connecting. I just updated to the 1.7.77 which allowed me to change to PAN and i made sure that PAN was selected in WMWIFIROUTER. All of the other things i left blank, and it connected right up showing a tiny cell phone icon next to my bluetooth icon. It was a very happy moment. I love finding those hidden icons.
Archos 5 Programming problem with PAN/DUN
The problem, and no one take this wrong, is that the technicians at Archos are a bunch of backwards idiots. I emailed them, explained to them that, if they would just rewrite the PAN/DUN menu to be selected previous to pairing, the problem would be solved.
My Sprint Touch Pro will do PAN bluetooth (all day long) even upside down but the idiotic software on the Archos 5 isn't smart enough to detect it so you don't get to use the PAN (which they claim is there), all you see is DUN.
I've used PDANet and gotten results but the connection is SO unstable it's just too irritating to bother.
If more people would write Archos, tell them to change the architecture of the tethering, this tablet would be more along the awesome line.
HOWEVER, because of this little quirk, some electronics magazines wrote the Archos 5 as "One of the tablets that should have NEVER been created" and it's gotten a bad rap because of the engineers.
Heck, even the whole GPS issue, they used an independent software from another company to make it work and while it DOES work, it's often slow to lock-in while standing still sometimes.
Basically i saw write in and tell them to change it. PAN is so much easier to deal with. I've had better luck with the G1 and the HERO but the problem is my current phone is using Windows Mobile 6 and they actually removed the DUN some versions ago for some reason i can't explain and the Microsoft tech couldn't tell me either.
You can hack the DUN in with registry tweaks and support software but there's no guarantee it will work.
#777 to start DUN connection?
I know I am late to this party, but on my 3rd AIT 5 (clearance at Best Buy for 150, but I got open box unit for 125) attempting this with XV6800, and now a new Imagio that tethers (Verizon) just fine with Linux/WinXP/Nokia N810.
The thing I have found with DUN is that it requires the tethered device (PC/AIT/etc) to send the #777 to connect, then authenticate with <phone number>@vzw3g.com for Id, and password of vzw. The tethering setup on the AIT appears to let you do the Id/Password part, but I see no way to get the #777 sent in the first place. Has anyone figured out that part?
TIA
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I thought I saw a .cab file here somewhere that would allow you to bridge the 3G/EDGE connection to the WiFi connection so I can share my 3G over WiFi to laptop or whatever.
Anyone seen this? I cant remember the name, thought it was something like WMBridge or something.
Thanks
G
GuardianZX9 said:
I thought I saw a .cab file here somewhere that would allow you to bridge the 3G/EDGE connection to the WiFi connection so I can share my 3G over WiFi to laptop or whatever.
Anyone seen this? I cant remember the name, thought it was something like WMBridge or something.
Thanks
G
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internet connection sharing will allow you to share your 3G over bluetooth or USB to your laptop !!
and now that I think about it you can almost certainly go through the arduous and difficult task of getting activesync to connect over an adhoc wifi connection, once that is done you will be able to use the phone as a 3G modem for your laptop.
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and now that I think about it you can almost certainly go through the arduous and difficult task of getting activesync to connect over an adhoc wifi connection, once that is done you will be able to use the phone as a 3G modem for your laptop.
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u can do it tht way but its hard, and requires a registry hack, which to be fair doesnt work all that well, disconns after a couple of mins at best, bluetooth is the way to go if u want wireless connecton, although i use the lead for security, u can use the 3g conn as a modem, but then if u like us use tmob wb and walk then u cnt use ur data package.
hope this helps
Peter
The app is called wmWifiRouter. Looks like they just came out with a new version the 10th. Forget bluetooth, its not secured at all, and only lets you share with one device. With wmwifirouter you can share with many. See the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341398
excellent that is exactly what I was looking for, I will play with it today and see if I can get it to work.
Thanks
G
Should be a simple matter of copying the exe to your device and running it. It takes care of all the registry settings, starting up Internet Sharing, keeping the connection alive, and with the latest version you can even put the unit to sleep and your connection will stay alive. About the only thing it doesn't do is set up a peer-to-peer profile with a fixed IP address, but the thread above walks you through that. Make sure you set the profile to use WPA encryption (NOT WEP or 'open') and set a password.
techntrek said:
The app is called wmWifiRouter. Looks like they just came out with a new version the 10th. Forget bluetooth, its not secured at all, and only lets you share with one device. With wmwifirouter you can share with many. See the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341398
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I finally got around to trying this and have had no luck. I followed the directions as best as I could tell. Anyone verify if this works on the Athena? I used to have the method set up manually but hadn't set it up again since updating to AP3.0. This would be much handier... if works!
wgary said:
I finally got around to trying this and have had no luck. I followed the directions as best as I could tell. Anyone verify if this works on the Athena? I used to have the method set up manually but hadn't set it up again since updating to AP3.0. This would be much handier... if works!
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Powell,
Why not build this into AP 4.0 ROM?
eaglesteve said:
Powell,
Why not build this into AP 4.0 ROM?
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i was trying for 3.0 actually but couldnt get it to work at time bc of confusing instructions. i will though in 4.0 100%
I verify that it works with the Athena and it works great. Let me know if your having trouble. I've been using it everyday now with no problems.
Pawel062 said:
i was trying for 3.0 actually but couldnt get it to work at time bc of confusing instructions. i will though in 4.0 100%
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The directions are confusing because the newer method was grafted onto the same thread as the older method. So it's hard to tell what's what. I put about an hour into this but made no progress. The exe file doesn't appear to do anything on the Athena...
MWillis561 said:
I verify that it works with the Athena and it works great. Let me know if your having trouble. I've been using it everyday now with no problems.
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Sorry, just saw your response as I wrote mine. Here is what I did:
1. set up an ad hoc network on my Athena. IP address 192.168.0.1 (another place saide 192.168.0.7--tried both)
2. Set up on my client (MacBook Pro). A connection was established.
3. Ran the exe file -- nothing happened. One comment said to deactivate the network before running. I did this in various degrees with no success.
4. Also opened up the Internet Sharing applet and tried to connect manually -- "USB cable is not connected."
Clearly I'm missing something here. It would be very handy to have this capability. Can you clarify??
Not sure why you are having a problem - I unzipped the zip, transfered the exe to the athena and it ran on the first try after first setting up the ad-hoc wifi connection (settings, connections, wi-fi, network adapters tab, IEEE..., use specific IP address in the 192.168.x.x range; then go to the other tab and set up an ad-hoc connection).
I had an even worse experience. Everytime I ran the exe, my Athena locked up, needing a complete reset each time.
I gave up in the end .
I have got other methods to work using Mortscipts, but it does seem like something that would be well worth someones time sorting out for the good of us all.
Have you tried the latest version of wmWifiRouter? The developer released a new version of it earlier this month. Its on version 0.8 now.
Is it possible to use ICS with wifi connection instead of cellular connection? Would be useful for a makeshift wireless adapter if your regular NIC or wireless NIC fails.
It seems that even if I have a wifi connection already going and then I launch ICS and connect, it still tries to dial out and use the cellular connection. You would think if it can share cellular data it could share wifi data just as easily but maybe im missing something.
Back in the early days of WiFi internet sharing the private interface was changed to WiFi with a manual registry edit. It might be possible to change the public interface to USB instead of defaulting too the cellular radio. It would probably take a fair amount of troubleshooting, but I'd think it would be possible. I think the entries were at HKLM\Comm\ConnectionSharing. Might be a starting point...
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WiFiRouter
WiFiRouter works by making your ppc into a virtual access point. Then you can share the internet through it.
Last time I looked however, the author had withdrawn the program from circulation at version 0.91. There must be some problems with it because the author indicated that he would release a new version once he ironed out some bugs. If it is not back in distribution yet, you might be still able to find it on a torrent site. If not, PM me and I will send you the cab. Some of the cab collections at ppcgeeks ftp have it inside too. One good collection to check is Alex's.
I have used it and it works.
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wmwifirouter is not what he's looking for. That is still using your phones internet. He wants to see how he could use the phone as a Network card, using the wifi connection, as oppossed to the sprintpcs connection.
I too would be very interested in this happening, if anyone knows of a way please tell.
ok, but why ??
Why would you actually want to do this anyway ??? I will look into it but it makes no sense when a USB WiFi dongle is $30 or so and does not run your phone down to use it, why would you want to use your phone as a very expensive USB WiFi card ??? Maybe I am missing some golden benefit ????
I dont get it either, but he did say in an emergency if your wifi went out.
Thank you for the responses.
Yes, it would be useful if your wireless nic went out (or regular nic for that matter) just to have something to use for the moment. Or maybe you brought your computer to a friends house and hes out of ports or you dont want to run 50ft cable to his kitchen table
But the titan has wireless, it has internet sharing, why doesnt the wireless show up in the list of available networks? I'm not saying its an all important feature but it would be yet another cool thing your phone could do.
i looking to use my mogul as a wifi access point (sharing Spint Vision thru wifi)
i tryed the procedure to mod the registry to enable it but i cant get it to work.
anyone know the exact procedure for the mogul
btw i also checked out WMWifiRouter...looks like it's no longer free
I also wanna know
Look the idea is simple. So where is the phone ICS telling it to use the celluar line and not allowing the option of the wifi?
Pls any one contact me. Its a cool feature for a phone
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i looking to use my mogul as a wifi access point (sharing Spint Vision thru wifi)
i tryed the procedure to mod the registry to enable it but i cant get it to work.
anyone know the exact procedure for the mogul
btw i also checked out WMWifiRouter...looks like it's no longer free
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I bought software called Walking Hotspot, which essentially turns my Mogul/Titan into something like a Mifi, sharing my cellular data with my laptop. Otherwise known as tethering.
I only use it for emergencies because I am not sure if Sprint can tell that I am tethering. I believe if Sprint detects unauthorized tethering they will charge 4 cents per kilobyte of data .. which is very harsh!
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I just got my Touch Pro yesterday. When I ordered it I went ahead and added tethering. With my 6800/Titan/Mogul, I was able to tether via bluetooth no problem with a custom ROM that added "internet sharing".
The only way to tether via bluetooth on the Touch Pro stock ROM is via "Modem Link". I got it working fine on Vista. But my work laptop I commute an hour to work each way, is the MacBook Pro.
I absolutely do not want to use a USB cord as there is not much room when you have someone sitting next to you. So I want to be able to connect, and put the phone back in my pocket.
I've searched hi and low for a solution, but can't find anything useful that actually works.
Any suggestions/step by step walk through on a working solution would be much appreciated!!
Thanks!
go->utilities->bluetooth->add new device->phone....should be self explanatory from there.
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go->utilities->bluetooth->add new device->phone....should be self explanatory from there.
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No, this does not work. It only holds the connection for 5 to 15 seconds before it fails. It worked great with my Mogul, but I've looked everywhere and can't get it to work with my TP!
yeah same here. i've gotten it to connect a couple times, but then it's only for a for about 5-10 seconds and then disconnects. I just ordered a bluetooth dongle that works with mac osx just to be sure it's not the internal bluetooth on the mac. I could be wrong, but I think the reason it's not stable as my previous phone is because connecting via "internet sharing" created a PAN vs. DUN. On my MacBook Pro it would say "join network on <phone name>" and it would work perfect. Using "modem link" I think is just using the DUN profile. Maybe JETware will expose PAN profile and more profiles? I want to try it, but it looks like it's old software.
well no luck with the bluetooth dongle ordered for the mac as there is no software to install that came with it. plugged it in and the os x bluetooth used the dongle instead of the built in bluetooth hardware. that was the only difference.
But again, I don't think it has anything to do with the Mac. I believe it's just the lack of the PAN profile on the phone. DUN profile works fine on the PC, but sucks on the MAC. At least with Verizon and/or the Touch Pro.
I think I'll remove the tethering package until a custom ROM comes out that enables the PAN profile. Hopefully someone can unlock GPS too. Other than VZW locking down those 2 things, I think the phone is great!
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
"WMWifiRouter instantly turns your wifi enabled smartphone* into a wireless internet hotspot. Now you can use your laptop and any other device with wifi to get online and surf, email, instant message, and anything else you normally use the internet for"
Internet Sharing App: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321393
WOW! Thank you! http://www.wmwifirouter.com Works great. It took a little time to troubleshoot at first. But it's always those quick simple solutions that getcha. I just had to disable the power saving feature. But definitely a cool program worth shelling out $30 for. I had no idea that bluetooth limits bandwidth so much. Through WiFi I'm getting 2,418 kbps down and 516 kbps up. I think with bluetooth I was only able to get like 200-400 kbps down. I also had no idea pocket pc's were capable of acting like a router.
Thanks again. This seems to be the best solution for tethering VZW Touch Pro with a MacBook Pro.
By the way, I also tried the Interent Sharing app. Although it puts the program on your phone, it doesn't enable the PAN profile on the phone. So I'm guessing Verizon's a little smarter than just letting a simple app unlock it. I'm assuming a custom ROM in the future will unlock the PAN profile. Even if it does become unlocked, sharing through WiFi is so much faster that it's not even worth it going through bluetooth.
This really really pi##es me off, as where I live I get 1x data, & usually use my home wireless (wifi).
Recieved the pro, and activated it. It seems disabled by being activated by alltel. I even stumped the blackberry adept person at the local store enough that they switched out the phone, I walked to next door (motel) used the free wireless (to prove the wireless would even function) then let him activate it and headed home (30+ miles into the wilderness). got home and again I cant get Crap wifi to work.
Home is wireless b, it connects, can be seen on the 'simple' 2 wire wireless appliance but the PRO, will not see or try to send data through it. turned off security and everything on the wireless for testing. I can check, but I know the pass for the motel, and I could try again, but am definitely sure that this AINT the issue--> again the phone wouldnt connect at the motel (least not the pre exchanged one) with me or the rep at Altel either, while it was activated and on alltel.
who to call? Any help out there?
my 6800 will still wifi, at anyplace there is a signal and that I know the passcodes or is open.
yes I asked this, at alltel-howard forums, but would think you guys here know more (on second thought, when I remembered about all the stuff you do here, I know I probably should've posted here 1st, but Im kinda mad at the moment!)
Pretty adept at computers, I do IS as my real job, anything I can do to help trouble shoot? yeah the 6800 has been flashed & I even noobed around with cooking a few time. appreciate any help you guys
i Have a touch pro and a touch diamond, both under 2 weeks old and the wifi works fine with both of them, maybe you should try a custom rom and see if they changes anything. but there is no reason it shouldnt work with the stock rom
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i Have a touch pro and a touch diamond, both under 2 weeks old and the wifi works fine with both of them, maybe you should try a custom rom and see if they changes anything. but there is no reason it shouldnt work with the stock rom
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goony,
Is it an Alltel? are you positive that wifi is working, not the "data" connection with alltel towers (cell call)? My proof is that if I goto my basment, I have no cell service so not any data connction, ONLY WIFI (that is where my wireless router is. that is when I found out the 1st time. Everything else looks right, on the phone it says it is connected, on the router I can see it on the connected devices list.
I have my issue that I believe, that it is some setting that Alltel is setting... like I said the phone would connect via wifi until the phone activated. When I activated (full unlimited data package is on this phone) the phone fully rebooted on its own, 3 times as if getting updated via data plan. Im not talking about the 1st time turn on customizations, those were done before I tested the wifi at the motel lobby... For instance, the volume control buttons - the display app were obviously modified, I am not positive what else was.
I'd LOVE to try custom rom, if I wasnt right in the period of time I can get my money back, or not. after that I will...
yes they are alltel, and to test the wifi i just connected it to my router and then turned of my alltel data and it stayed connected so i am positive the wifi works. you can still use a custom rom under your return period, if you want to return just relock it.
I wanted to double check myself sting to make sure i was realy getting wifi, so i connected and went to speedtest.net and did a speed test and sure enough it showed my isp as roadrunner(my home provider). Have you had this problem with multiple phones? are you checking the internet option when it connects? and do you have it diconnected from the pc? my wifi wont work on my diamond hooked to a pc.
Has nothing to do with alltel. Maybe with the rom or the phone. Now I hope you're not waiting for a pop up to show itself on the main screen asking if you want to connect because you could wait forever. Go to comm manager enable wifi/ go to start->settings->connections->wifi and make sure options are set to "all available." If you can even see wireless networks on the list, the wifi is functioning correctly and there is a router settings conflict. If you don't see networks on that list in wifi, then there is a rom/hardware problem.
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Has nothing to do with alltel. Maybe with the rom or the phone. Now I hope you're not waiting for a pop up to show itself on the main screen asking if you want to connect because you could wait forever. Go to comm manager enable wifi/ go to start->settings->connections->wifi and make sure options are set to "all available." If you can even see wireless networks on the list, the wifi is functioning correctly and there is a router settings conflict. If you don't see networks on that list in wifi, then there is a rom/hardware problem.
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Hey thanks!
But, it is the Stock shipped rom, I have my HTC 6800 right next to this one, connected and surfing the web, both show up when in the home WIFI router config as connected, yet the pro sends NO DATA to ie or opera, (cant locate any webpages) or any app that uses internet/data.Unless there is something I need to do with PRO that I never had to do with the 6800 (mogul) that I just flashed back to stock shipped rom, ready to sell on ebay...
what I dont know is, well, most of the people wifi to tether a laptop or something, I dont! Sure that will be neat in the future, but RIGHT NOW, Just I use WIFI when I am at home and dont even have signal or evdo near me... (remote locations that I live, the tower coverage sucks out here in ks...) Got to fix this soon, or this Beyotch is going back to alltel.
Another thing, this bad boy pulled this crap, as soon as alltel activated the device (so I could use it as my phone!) when it was NOT activated, the wifi worked (proven at the motel next door to the Alltel store I exchanged this phone). BTW, I was able to test it on the 1st phone shipped to me, while it was activated, it pulled the same thing, when he unactivated the phone, we could almost pickup the wifi from the motel next door (distance was the only issue I think now looking back) but seemed like a chip problem.
Where I got screwed was we believed the wifi to be bad on the 1st phone. So he got out a new phone, and before we activated it, I went and tested the wifi, it worked on the 2nd phone. I thought wall was fine, it worked. then I had him activate it, assuming that proved I will be able to use the wifi. So I leave the store thinking OK wifi works. I get home, and again unable to use my home networking wifi to open web or apps. unacceptable. Yet the 6800 does and still works flawlessly (as long as you slide the wifi sider on side to on {inside joke}).
follw me better now?
What brand router do you have? How many devices are wireless? And it connects to other locations but are you sending and recieving data? Try this link http://www.wmwifirouter.com/trial/ and install on 6800 if you are not normally around hotspots. This will test the t-pro's ability to send and recieve information via wifi. Now it is sounding like an IP address conflict.
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What brand router do you have? How many devices are wireless? And it connects to other locations but are you sending and recieving data? Try this link http://www.wmwifirouter.com/trial/ and install on 6800 if you are not normally around hotspots. This will test the t-pro's ability to send and recieve information via wifi. Now it is sounding like an IP address conflict.
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Sweeny, Im in the houshold router (made by 2wire) I can see it (the Pro as well as the 6800) each get an ip. (I work In IT, so I know what you are talking about in ip conflicts, all that.) I have even set the router to manually setup IPs now, then set the ip inside the Pro, as well as the default gateway, dns all that.) I'm telling ya, it is more like it doesnt know the DNS or the gateway (just like I disable internet surfing on the computers at work that I still must use networking)
I copied the DNS and everything from a working laptop (ipconfig -all) on a wireless laptop today, and still as if it was disabled.
This weekend i will test the dang thing tethering with my notebook i'll bring home from work (use the pro as the internet access). if it wont tether either, then I think allHell is doing something. Again if the device is DE-Activated I will wifi... {I'll bet you $$}. I might call alltel, tomarrow night, and try that. I'll have them inactivate it and if it suddenly works, then the question is, what do I do with alltel? they dont have the right to disable hotspot usage do they?
I feel I feel the presence of VERIZON already in Alltel, Luke is turning to the dark side. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
You all thought I was off my crock...
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/2073117/Touch+Pro+WiFi?t=anon lots of folks posting same problems it looks like.
Need that group of people who can create a kitchen, and hcak tomtoms, to help us with this PLEASE!
No I don't, think you're off your crock I just know how frustrating problems like this can be. Here is what I suggest you do. And if this doesn't work exchange the phone or try a different router. I know what you're thinking....not the router. Truth is might be. Its just like wireless adapters in wii's and ps3's they simply will not work with a handfull of routers even though not clearly documented.
Anyway, change router to static Ip's, safer anyway.
Specifiy gateway, primary and secondary dns, and limit your ip's within 100 available obtainables. Use a 64 bit wep encryption. Change the channel of your router's broadcast to 1 or 11. Use only simple gateway ip range, not pure server. If you need me to provide you with example settings then pm me because I do not want to broadcast them via forum
Good luck.
Dont take this the wrong way....but are you positive that you are disabling the DATA Connection in Comm Manager?
I have had the alltel touch pro since the second they hit the store. I have used 3 of them since and they all work perfectly on wifi. I primarily use wifi and use diamond tweak to activate the wifi standby so wifi stays connected in standby like data does by default and use modaco nodata to disable data as I live in a house that gets a very lowsignal from the tower and eats my battery superfast if I use data. I have a router in the house and one in my office detached from my home and when I had my mogul it often would not switch between routers successfully requiring me to manually connect more often than not. All the Touch Pros connect superfast and switch automatically. I am running mightyrom 4.12 and telus radio which is light years better than stock with signal, speed and batterylife, but even when I was on stock for about 3 months there were absolutely no wifi issues.
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Dont take this the wrong way....but are you positive that you are disabling the DATA Connection in Comm Manager?
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Not sure which of us you are asking this queston of...
Thanks, for the help so far...
I was having the same issue (Alltel and all).
I found this post in the MS forums:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsmobile/thread/561f18a8-5f64-4359-957e-adb003229f1d
Essentially, it says to "Navigate to START/SETTINGS/Connections Tab/Connections icon/Advanced Tab
Press Select Networks Button
At the top it says "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:"
You want to press on the drop down and choose My Work Network"
You need to tell the system that the Work Network connects to the internet as well. While this doesn't seem like the ideal solution (there should be a faster way to switch it, or it should do it automatically depending on location), it did work for me. I'm sure there's a much more sleek solution out there, though.
Btw... I hope I'm posting this correctly. I'm more a reader than a poster.
Ooop... one more thing. Its non-sleekatude rests with the fact that when you want to switch between wifi and your data plan, you have to go through the whole process, and switch the active network from My Work Network to Alltell Wireless. This is where I was hoping for a better solution. As I say, it does work, but it seems like it should involve less hassle.
Might add this to the WIKI, I dunno but there could be a few more thousand users out there on ATT or SWB using the modem/routers that they shipped when you got DSL more than a year ago...
Everyone that has the older 2 wire brand, wifi modem/router that came with SBC (now ATT). Wierd I know. But Mine has just been replaced by the newer version of that modem/router. and I will be dammed, it works. but the phone wont work with the older ones. Mine was the 2WIRE 1000hw model. they are shipping new models, and finally the phone will work with the wifi on that new router.
Thought it might be nice to know...
alltel model uses wifi just fine
My TP from alltel works just fine with wi-fi all i ever do is turn it on and then select which connection i want to make ...really quite nice...maybe you need to exchange yours...
On further testing of my own setup, I'm thinking my issue was the router. I had done several fixes all at once, and cited the wrong fix as the working one. I happened to reset my router at the same time I did the above suggested fix.
I thought it had to be the device, as my HTC Apache never had an issue with the router, but after resetting the router, and going back to the original settings on the TP, I'm having no problems connecting to the network. I wish I could pinpoint the exact conflict between the two, but now that I have it working, I'm not messing with it.
My suggestion is to back up your router settings, reset the router, and see what happens. Or test your wifi on someone else's network.
Isolating a network conflict can be one of the least fun things to do, but from everything I've seen here and in other forums (and my experience with it) I'm going to say that's the issue, and not the TP alone.
I don't think it likes your router being wireless B, you should try it on a wireless G router before Ebaying it.
My new Touchpad don't seem to support ad-hoc wireless networks. It don't see them or let me join them by entering the SSID (network name) and password. Is there any software I can add or configuration change I can make to change this? I have a Windows Mobile cell phone that can share its connection over wifi, but its ad-hoc only and I use WEP.
Any ideas on what to do about adhoc networks? Any hacks or sideloaded software, if no official apps?
This KILLED me. I bought mine over the weekend while I was on vacation and the hotel had a catch-all page so I couldn't get through registration from that network. I figured no big deal and turned on my hotspot (Moto Photon) and it wasn't showing up. I configured a wifi shared connection on my laptop and it didn't show up. I thought I was insane! Ended up getting annoyed and driving up the road until I found an open network without a catch-all... My wife drove while I scanned for a connection. I know for a fact that they work with the Palm Pre's shared connection. What's up with the haterade HP?
I have an original droid and have this same issue as I understand cyanagen mod allows you to create a non ad hoc WiFi but I can't get a clear answer on this
So far I could not find an app or hack to allow the Touchpad to connect to an adhoc wifi either. I too have a WM phone (HD2). Unfortunately there is also no app for the WM phone that would allow it to broadcast infracstructure (non-adhoc) wifi.
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This KILLED me. I bought mine over the weekend while I was on vacation and the hotel had a catch-all page so I couldn't get through registration from that network.
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I had this problem also, but you can still make it work. Goto your networks wifi setting and flip the auto switch and wait. It takes some time (almost 5min for me) but it'll pickup the ip address and finish loading the setup pages.
I am trying to use my TP with the wifi from my Touch Pro 2. Any help would be appreciated.
This is a real let down, no ad-hoc support. And our WinMo phone and Motorola Triumph do not support Infrastructure mode.
SoftAP appears to be a requirement to tether with android phones.
Unfortunately my Galaxy Spica does not have this so until some wonderful magical person creates an app/patch which allows the Touchpad to Bluetooth tether or utilise ad hoc wifi networks my tablet will be housebound
also need help with HTC HD2 on winmo 6.5 tethering adhoc with touchpad.
i guess the more realistic solution will be HD2 running android?
For you rooted android phone users http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238382
I'm really annoyed about this. One of the main things I thought of when buying the touchpad was to tether it to my winmo phone and browse the internet on the move. I hope someone creates a patch soon to enable adhoc wifi.
Really disapointed that I can't tether my iphone 4 to my touchpad.
For the price I can live without gps, sd/micro sd card slot, usb but the not being able to tether this thing is a deal breaker for me.
All I wanted to be able to do with my touchpad is tether for mail, browse the web, music, and be able to watch movies and it seems this thing falls short on everyone of the fronts.
I wonder if its likely anyone will release a patch for WebOS to allow it to recognise and use AdHoc networks?!
Just upgraded my Samsung Galaxy Spica to 2.2 Froyo using kitchen - Enabled portable Wi-Fi Hotspot from the settings menu and now it works perfectly (open or with WPA2 PSK encryption)
Appears this was the only way to get it to work for me as the touchpad was not detecting the adhoc connection on 2.1.
for those with the HD2, try using MCCM HD v6 DESIRE ROM. I can tether to my touchpad with no problems.... first try, no setting tweaks or anything...
Through my searching it was my understanding that Ad-Hoc support could be injected to the touchpad, is there any progress on this front to make it more user friendly? It was pretty heavy linux speak.
Most of the threads I've seen are focusing on Android development for support. What about the webOS side of things?
This is what I'm referencing:
webos-internals
.org/wiki/Ad-Hoc_Networking*
Is there some reason this isn't a viable option? the signal issues? Seems if the method is there than all that it needs is to be more user friendly...
*argh! too newb to post links
CarbolDroid said:
Through my searching it was my understanding that Ad-Hoc support could be injected to the touchpad, is there any progress on this front to make it more user friendly? It was pretty heavy linux speak.
Most of the threads I've seen are focusing on Android development for support. What about the webOS side of things?
This is what I'm referencing:
webos-internals
.org/wiki/Ad-Hoc_Networking*
Is there some reason this isn't a viable option? the signal issues? Seems if the method is there than all that it needs is to be more user friendly...
*argh! too newb to post links
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I tried what was described in the thread a few days ago. Ran into issue when trying to execute
/usr/sbin/wifidriver -i
no such file exised....
I have a Samsung Charge with Gummybear. I could not tether at first. I went to the tethering settings and changed the profile to a Samsung Fascinate. Then changed the Setup-Method to softap for Samsung (master). This did not work at first then I shutdown (using the task manager) the tethering app and restarted. Turned my wi-fi on the touchpad off, then on, and my SSID came up. Clicked connect and went to access control and approved my touchpad connection. Now it works.
Hope this helps someone.
Just a heads up for anyone using an iphone 4 with their touchpad.
If you upgrade to ios 4.3.3 or later you can enable wifi hotspot and this hotspot will thether with the touchpad without issue.
I was running ios 4.1 trying to use mywi without success and then decided to try this method and works like a charm.