I would like to know and I am sure others would like to know if there are any accessories For Wizard from Magician or Other compatible phones that work on both.
Coz its a new phone Usually accessories from other older phones in the same range or older models work, like those of Nokia compatibles.
Chargers, headsets, USB cables, Cases ( probly not coz of the size differance), Car kits or any thing that will connect and is usable.
Some of the items i have come across that work with other items but just coz it is branded to work on the Model makes you think only that is branded for that product, therfore will work but not other's thats why started this !!
p.s I cant wait for my i-mate K-Jam to arrive !!
Software
For the hardware it will take sometime yet for feedback.
But as for software here is a lick to software that is compatible with Windows mobile 5 . ( on wizard forum as software compatible with windows mibile 5 ! )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30256&sid=b502f6c243e75b58e66c69287cc978a9
USB cable (I think any usb mini cable will do)
Typhoon --> Magician --> Wizard works fine
Headsets (modded with sony headphones)
Typhoon --> Magician --> Wizard works fine
Generic car charger
Typhoon --> Magician --> Wizard works fine
Well all styli would work
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On a more serious note:
boxwave's miniBuds 2.5mm jack [no mic] work with the Wizard.
boxwave's miniSync for the Magician [aka imate JAM] charges but does not sync the Wizard [they have a new one for the Wizard]
boxwave's VersaCharger is not compatible with the Wizard [according to boxwave] I did not test this personally cause I didn't want to risk shorting out the device.
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although all styluses would work, you can't stick a BA/Magician/Universal stylus in the Wizard stylus holder So I wouldn't quite claim them as being 'compatible' :>
First to report a battery that has a larger charge than 1250mAh but still fits with the Wizard gets a cookie, though
quite right ZeBoxx hehe
I'm looking for a serial cable for my Cingular 8125. I'd like to be able to connect to network equipment via a console cable and not have to drag out my laptop.
If this won't work ahs anyone tried this with a BT serial adapter for the network equipment.
I know I'm not the only network tech around on these forums.
J-Man5
Bump.
This would be a fantasic enhancement. It would save me a small fortune if I could connect the device to other hardware.
Just made a cable for my MDA but need info on com port setup
Hey J-Man5, I have been looking everywhere for such a cable to no avail. So I decided to put one together myself. Just finished it today, but I have not tested it on any network routers yet. It is made for Cisco console ports. My problem though is that I so far haven't truly figured out how to get the MDA to use com-port 1 mode on the mini-USB connector. Again I have searched everywhere for any info on this but it must be a secret. I am planning on using a terminal program called PowerTerm Mobile which looks great, but again, I haven't tested it. Were you ever able to get anything to work for you? And does anyone know how to get MDA into Comm-port mode?
Thanks
Any updates on this? I'm interested in using a Wizard with the AutoEnginuity OBD-II scanner, and that needs a serial interface (don't want to fork out for the less optimal BT interface).
I found this:
http://www.gomadic.com/pocphonserad.html
...anybody tried it?
-HoB
That cable posted above won't work beause it's not compatible with the wizard aka T-Mobile MDA III. They started using the mini usb at that point.
CompUSA is selling the Motorola DC800 Bluetooth Stereo Transceiver for $39.99. It shows up as a COM port in its bluetooth settings.
The problem with this, though, is it still connects with a mini 5-pin USB cable (not included).
Not quite sure how to map this into your application, but at about retail for a cable/pigtail, might be worth checking into.
p.s. Sound quality resembles that described by many HT820 owners, with pops, skips, random dropouts, and excessive noise. (At least with the MS Bluetooth stack) So a data application would (hopefully) be its forte....
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That cable posted above won't work beause it's not compatible with the wizard aka T-Mobile MDA III. They started using the mini usb at that point.
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Yeah, now that I have a Wizard (yay!) I realised that the port was different. Too bad. I guess the nearest thing would be a Bluetooth-Serial adapter like one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833139008
Spendy, though. :-(
-HoB
why not go for an OBD product with bluetooth built in? like OBDKey (www.obdkey.com)
I note the thread below for the cradle for Tmob TP2 but was wondering if anyone has bought/tried/tested the official HTC desktop cradle and its options (outputs etc)
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=179339
Its about £34 in the UK and I'm just weighing up whether its worth the cost.
Many thanks
Andy
I took a hacksaw & a Dremmel to my Diamond cradle.
It might look a bit ropey when the phone isn't in it but I'm not there then!
When I am there the phone is init and it looks fine
Have my TP2 in the post and have ordered one of these:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Desktop-Syn...UTF8&coliid=I31X9GZN1VRZW6&colid=9MBV0NZ7B0IZ
Looks similar to the one my Kaiser's sat in at the mo so should be ok.
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Have my TP2 in the post and have ordered one of these:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Desktop-Syn...UTF8&coliid=I31X9GZN1VRZW6&colid=9MBV0NZ7B0IZ
Looks similar to the one my Kaiser's sat in at the mo so should be ok.
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Not bad at all! Let us know how it goes mate if thats ok!
Andy
I bought the OEM Cradle about a month ago, its much bigger than I expected and attacts dust worse than my PS3 but it looks great.
I've got the TV out plugged in as well as the AC charger and it works fine
Only downside I've found is that if you have any case on your phone it wont fit in the holder. Bought a silcone case after I dropped it and scrached the chome, now I have to take the case off everytime I want to charge
I've been trying to find an HTC Made one specifically with the combination USB *and* battery charger slot as were available for the HTC 6700/Mogul [part # CRU 6800) ie not one of the cheapies after market with pretty shoddy battery fit..
Can't tell from the photo if the CRG 300 is that, or simply a USB charger cradle without the battery charger slot ?
http://www.windowsmobilenow.com/us/p_wm_acc1.aspx?i=179445&partner=wmusfroogle
Any ideas/suggestions ? I bought my girlfriend one of the aftermarket versions for her ATT Tilt and it's been horrible.
andyhud007 said:
I note the thread below for the cradle for Tmob TP2 but was wondering if anyone has bought/tried/tested the official HTC desktop cradle and its options (outputs etc)
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=179339
Its about £34 in the UK and I'm just weighing up whether its worth the cost.
Many thanks
Andy
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I've been trying to find an HTC Made one specifically with the combination USB *and* battery charger slot as were available for the HTC 6700/Mogul [part # CRU 6800) ie not one of the cheapies after market with pretty shoddy battery fit..
Can't tell from the photo if the CRG 300 is that, or simply a USB charger cradle without the battery charger slot ?
http://www.windowsmobilenow.com/us/p_wm_acc1.aspx?i=179445&partner=wmusfroogle
Any ideas/suggestions ? I bought my girlfriend one of the aftermarket versions for her ATT Tilt and it's been horrible.
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well here is one that i found for the t-moble/gsm version
http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Europ...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1255140473&sr=8-1
it seems pretty nice, got 2 usb ports, one for charging the other for computer, and even an audio out. got the second battery charger as well. i have the cdma tp2 so i am awaiting an equivalent version. check it out though you may like it
I had a quick look but i couldnt find these ones on the site. As most of you know a spare battery (or 7) is a must with the TP2. But im a noob and im not sure what the difference is with these with the mAh ratings. Is there much difference between 13050mAh and 1500mAh batteries? which will be better?
Heres the 1500mAh battery
Here is the 1350mAh battery
Thanks
Personally, I wouldn't get a replacement battery from HK, and not over Ebay either - I've used one source for two-way radio kit over there for a while, and while the Li-Po and Li-Io batteries do work, they appear to have a limited life span in comparison with OEM equipment available over here.
I'd think about long-term savings, and get something from Clove (linkage here), who at least can be held accountable to the "fit for use" elements of the Sale Of Goods Act 1964 over here, unlike HK sources via ebay. Don't get me wrong - ebay's a great source of bargain kit, but for something as essential and spec-critical as a PDA/Phone battery, I'd go home-grown retail sources every time, purely for the legal protection.
In any case, I'm getting a PowerMonkey from Maplin today. Much more versatile for me
My spare batteries have always been HK cheapo's and never a problem with them before. If that one you showed me was half the price it is then id have got it.
1600 mAh battery from the uk?
Is this really genuine?
SMF_12 - I opted for the powerMonkey for a number of reasons.
It's small enough to lug around in a pocket or belt pouch.
It carries potentially two full TP2 charges from a single full charge
It's got a long shelf life on a single charge
It's got adaptors in the box for most of the portable devices you might already own that take a 4.5-5.5 vDC charge
If by chance your connecter isn't there, they suply additional ones at a very reasonable cost
It'll charge my TP2 and my other half's Razr (that's the motorola phone, not the ladyshave ) too
Oh, did I mention it's rechargeable off anything with a USB port, and can take a charge off any mains power socket on the globe (travel plugs come as standard).
I'm rather impressed with it
However, if all you want is the spare battery, then by all means, go for that instead
As to the "is this genuine"... he's in the UK, subject to the Sale of Goods Act and the Trade Descriptions Act. If he's telling fibs, he can be held accountable. Hope that helps
Have fun
UPDATE: Hold fire on the PowerMoneky, folks. There's a glitch. While the supplied USB charging cable works with the miniUSB adaptor tip to charge the TP2, the PowerMoneky itself does not - say again not - appear to be charging the TP2. Only found this out last night - I've been using the USB adaptor cable and tip up to now.
A trouble ticket email has been sent to them, asking for any information regarding this, and hopefully a fix as well.
You can imagine how damned annoyed - and embarrassed - I am at this point in time.
Update - very rapid response from PowerTraveller tech support - seems that they believe I need a "DOPOD" adaptor tip, and requested my snail mail address so that they could send me one - still doesn't explain how the miniUSB tip works when I'm using it in the car from the cigar lighter -> USB adaptor, but there y'go. Soon as the DOPOD tip arrives, I'll test it out, and update you all
Thanks for that, i took a look at it in maplins today but i think ill stick to a second battery. but im sure people will be happy to read your review on the product so keep us updated on this product
Will do
OK, DOPOD adaotor tip arrived today.
Result: FAIL.
The text of the follow-up note to PowerTraveller Customer Services, sent this evening, is reproduced below, less the name of the Customer Services agent there.
Thanks for the DOPOD adaptor tip, which arrived today.
Unfortunately, it does not appear to solve the problem.
I connected the tip to the PowerMonkey Classic lead, and then plugged it into the ExtUSB connector socket on the HTC Touch Pro 2. I then moved the switch on the PowerMonkey Classic to "on". Again, the green light on the PowerMonkey Classic started to flash, but there was no noticable difference from using the normal USB adaptor tip; i.e., there was no amber charging light illuminated on the Touch Pro 2, and no charging icon was to be seen on the screen. I have to assume that there was therefore no charging current making it to my HTC Touch Pro 2.
The entire point of purchasing the PowerMonkey Classic was the be able to recharge my HTC Touch Pro 2 when I was away from other power sources, such as my home, my car, and other USB sources such as notebook PCs, when out and about conducting, for example, GPS-related activities, which are heavy on battery consumption. The advertising that I saw led me to believe that the PowerMonkey Classic *would* be the solution to my problem. Sadly, however, despite your attempt with the DOPOD adaptor tip, this does NOT appear to be the case, and I am VERY disappointed, as you can imagine.
It is remotely possible that your engineers have missed that on the Touch Pro 2, the connector on the bottom of the unit is NOT a standard USB connector, but HTCs proprietary ExtUSB format (which combines power, audio, and data feeds in one socket/plug format)?
Could you possibly check with the engineers, and ascertain if they have actually physically *tested* the DOPOD with the HTC Touch Pro 2, and, if so, how they managed to get the darn thing to accept charging current from the PowerMonkey Classic?
As it stands now, failing a working solution from your selves, I am the poud owner of the thirty quid high-tech paperweight, that is of zero use to me. I am due to see my partner (who lives 70-odd miles from me) soon, and we will test at that time whether the device works in charging a Motorola Razr.
If it does, then, short a working solution for my Touch Pro 2 being forthcoming from your company, I will give my partner the device. At least then, someone will profit from using the device. I however, will be back to square one, searching for an on-foot recharging solution for my phone.
Finaly, I would remind you that all the above fails to explain why I can get a ten quid self-reeling cigar lighter adaptor unit in my car, using what appears to be a standard USB connector, to successfully charge my Touch Pro 2. Naturally, I would be VERY interested in knowing why this succeeds, where the PowerMonkey Classic fails.
Sincerely,
Roger Stenning
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As you can imagine, I am far from amused at this entire sorry bloody saga.
As always, I'll keep you all updated, should there be anything to report.
EDIT:
Almost forgot - confirmation USB source test result:
Almost forgot. I checked to see if the DOPOD tip worked with a purely USB-derived power source, so plugged the supplied self-reeling PowerMonkey adaptor cable into the tip, then into my computers' USB port, and connected the tip to the Touch pro 2. Surprise surprise, the amber light on the phone illuminated, and charging current was flowing into the Touch Pro 2.
The problem is therefore sqarely defined as being with the PowerMonkey itself, and NOT the adaptor tip.
Casting back to my original note, I have to assume that the PowerMonkey is NOT delivering a powerful enough charge, at 4.5 VDC, where USB specs clearly require 5 VDC. There is therefore a deficit of 0.5 VDC from the PowerMonkey Classic.
I will still check to see if this is successful in charging a Motorola RAZR or not, and will report back to you at that time.
Sincerely,
Roger Stenning
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I've never had problems with HK batteries either, but hasn't this thread been done a few times already?
SMF_12 said:
1600 mAh battery from the uk?
Is this really genuine?
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Hope so, I've just ordered
Update time.
PowerTraveller, manufacture of the Power Monkey Classic v1, have sent me a returns form in the email, and have told me that once I've returned it, they'll send a replacement after testing.
Looks like the postage is down to me, though
Roger, if it's any consolation, I've had to do the merry dance that you appear to be doing right now. I bought a v1 just over six months ago and went through the exact process you have described. Just the other day, I received a replacement unit that I'm testing now. My problem was that when my phone was 'next to' empty, I'd plug in the v1 and it would charge to about 50% before itself becoming empty. I know the v1 was full because I had charged it for hours and the LED was green. "Two fulls charges"? Pfffft.
I also got the load of old cobblers from Powermonkey about the USB tips too. How I should use a DOPOD tip instead of a USB one. When I questioned 'why?' I received a half mumbled reply about the tips being internally wired differently. The one that they promised to mail me never arrived so I bought one from the website, being only like £3. Did it make a difference? No.
I don't know how this replacement's going to work out but I have my doubts. Before buying the v1, I bought two other Powertraveller products, the Powerchimp device that runs off two rechargeable AA batteries. I gave up on both of them within a week because even with two fully charged AAs, it seemed to charge my phone for about 30 minutes before being in an empty state and when I looked at my phone (TytnII) it had maybe gained 10% charge. OK if you want to make say one emergency phonecall but useless if you need the equivelent of a fully charged spare battery (or two!!!).
I'm going to monitor how it works out and see if this replacement works and provides at least a full charge and a half. If it doesn't, well, although it'll work on some level, it just doesn't do what it's advertised to do which is very naughty (especially when you see them laud their product all over the internet/Twitter etc as the most amzing thing since bread that has been sliced
One day guys, once day I hope the world will see a truly reliable and consistant portable power supply. Maybe in a thousand years, even a reliable solar powered products?
hiya - thanks for the heads up. It's be damned nice to see a curcuit diagram of the thing, along with a specific list of components. They try that mumbling stuff with me, they may bite themselves somewhere embarrassing - I'm also a licenced Radio ham in the UK (G1LIW), and as some of you might know, we have to pass tests in the technical aspects of the radio hobby - which includes electronics
I'm damned if I know what the preventative difference between a DOPOD and a miniUSB tip, either, by the way, given that the ExtUSB used by HTC only adds maybe 7 contacts to the format while avoiding existing MiniUSB pin locations...
MiniUSB layout...
http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
ExtUSB layout...
http://pinouts.ru/PDA/htc_extusb_headset_pinout.shtml
The two are not, of course, interchangeable - while MiniUSB plugs will fit into ExtUSB sockets, the reverse is not true.
Anyhow, we will see.
Thanks again for the heads up
Quick test result update.
I let my TytnII (battery, 1350mAh?) drop to 30% battery and then plugged in my fully charged P M Classic. It charged back to 100% and the charge LED was still flashing green. I then plugged in my half empty old Motorola V3, it charged it for approx 30 minutes before flashing red and eventually stopping. 2200mAh!?!? capacity? I bet I didn't consume any more than about a 1000mAh and it was empty.
OK, it's new so this might go up a bit but it really doesn't bode well. OK, so maybe I'll get one full charge out of it but it's advertised as 2200 my phone is 1350, surely it should be up towards about two charges?
Bottom line is, it works but nowhere near as well as it's advertised to do.
OK, received the replacement PM (it's a version 2, not a version 1) in the mail today. They included another DOPOD adaptor tip, too. Guess they figured I'm a clumsy schmuk who may have lost the one they sent me the other week (nope, still got it)
Anyhow, Turning it on results in rapid green LED blinking, meaning they fully charged it before sending it to me. Which was nice of them
However, and interestingly, plugging in a charger to it does NOT result in any LED illuminating. Odd. have to follow that up later.
I'll let you all know how it behaves in charging my phone once I use it "in anger".
Be interested to see what you make of it's charge capacity...
Cured the inability to charge the PowerMonkey problem - it was a rather embarrassing user error - the plug wasn't correctly seated in the mains socket
Gonna let the phone drain a bit while I'm on holiday this week, and use the PM to charge it. It's a PMv2, not a PMv1, that they sent as a replacement, remember, so we will see if the thing behaves any better than your v1
Later
After a month or so of tests, I can say my version 2 is 'better' but it still doesn't delivery the one and a half charges it's supposed to. On average, I'd say it fully charges my TYTN2 once and is then empty.
I really can't be bothered to stress about it any more because I guess, one full charge is better than nothing but I think I'm justified in being a little irked that it doesn't do what it's advertised to do?
Conclusion: It works, it'll charge your phone to full from empty and is an alternative to buying a spare battery for your phone. It'll also charge everyone elses phone with the right adapter!
I bought this cradle a few weeks ago and i love it so much i wanted to share it with you guys!
The good points...Universal, works with any device,
it comes with a separate charger lead off the back with different tips so you can charge other phones while Syncing.
Nice to use, no fiddly slotting it into place.And works in landscape!
its got a blue light!! anything with a blue lights got to be good right
Loads of other stuff..
Bad points...
Only shipped to Europe apparently,(found similar in US in post #3)
Have to use a Sync lead..i don't mind but some might, I actually think its better cos i can pick it up and not have to disconnect it, but hey thats just me.
Basically its cheap and great.
check out the full specs here http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/22432-Desk-Genie-Non-Slip-Charging-Desk-Stand-Reviews.htm
i just found a full review and better pic than mine!
http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/desk-genie-non-slip-charging-desk-stand/
Does anyone know where something comparable to this is to be found to ship to the US?
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Does anyone know where something comparable to this is to be found to ship to the US?
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I just found this with a bit of lateral googling, its not quite as nice but similar
http://www.bestofferbuy.com/USB-20-...ource=gbase&utm_medium=cse&utm_campaign=gbase
and here http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26352
not black though
I think i just found it!! nice looking too...looks slick
http://www.gizfever.com/antislip-mobile-holder-with-usb-hub-p-735.html
LOL, should have known to check DealExtreme. I've been buying things from them for years. Ever seen this product. I'd recommend it highly, have two at home:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15294
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LOL, should have known to check DealExtreme. I've been buying things from them for years. Ever seen this product. I'd recommend it highly, have two at home:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15294
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Yeah been looking into these too, seems like a cheap way to have an external drive! glad the link helped.
Something similar:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/c96e/
I'll do you one better and cheaper:
http://www.hardwaresphere.com/2009/06/21/anti-slip-gadget-holder-double-as-usb-card-reader/
This one appeals to me
USB Desktop Cradle with 2nd battery slot for HTC Touch Pro 2 (GSM) $ 22.95
[KDG-LX-HTP2]
Note: I don't suggest this UNIT.
Based on this Review
Special Features:
* Compatible with USB and USB2 port
* Synchronize and charge at the same time
* Protection circuit
* Comes with a LED indicator
* 2nd battery charging slot !!!
* Support PC and Mac
* A perfect complement for mobile professionals
Package Contains:
* Docking Cradle
* 1 AC Charger Adapter
* 1 USB Cable
Problems:
Cheap quality, break easy.
Second slot needs AC adapter, while cradle needs USB and not work from AC,
poor design and NO cust support.
ATTENTION!!! This cradle is for GSM Version of HTC Toch Pro 2. It will NOT work with Sprint Touch Pro 2 or Verizon Toch Pro 2!
Q: Does anyone think this "Won't" work with T-Mobile TP2 ? It isn't specifically listed on the T-Mobile specific link. ?
Cradle, yes, but not if you have a case
Hi,
I have one of those types of cradles. They are great, UNLESS...
--You have a case on your device. There is no room between the cradle back and the support back that allows you to place the device in the cradle.
--You have an extended battery. These don't (again) have any space that will allow you to put the device in the cradle since there's no room to feasibly put the device in the cradle if you have an extended battery.
I don't know why these things (cradles) have this support back and don't leave any space for any extended options.
osirisHTC.. wats the link to tht dock station for tp2.. it looks sick.
http://www.thinktouchpro2.com/thtctopro2de.html
T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 Sync and Charge Desktop Charger with 2nd Battery Slot - $26.99
I ended up buying this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250581187014
2 Battery+USB Charger for Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2 Pro2
US $11.49
T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 Sync and Charge Desktop Charger with 2nd Battery Slot - $26.99[/QUOTE]
That exact same cradle is on e-bay for $13 shipped to the U.S. I bought two of them. Works great for me, and the price is right. As others have noted, it's a little fiddly to slide it on, and tends to stick when sliding it off. And it won't work with a case or an extended battery, but the film guards are ok.
Is your device the T-Mobile version?
Last cradle I bought didn't fit it.