My battery seems to be draining very fast now. I don't know if it has to do with me down grading my Radio from .50 to .40 last night or what. I had the phone on the charger and then I took it off the charger to run to the store. I had it off the charger for like 20 minutes and 25% of the power was gone. Is that normal? I used the internet browers for maybe 3-4 minutes and that's it.
Then later I had my phone plugged into the charger and I was talking on it while it was in the charger for maybe an hour or so and the battery went down to like 35% power left or drained like 65%. I went to do something on it while I was talking on it and it powered off!! So, I'm not sure what the deal is anymore. Thanks!
well obviously something is either running in the background without you knowing about it and/or your battery needs to be replaced.
So old is your unit/battery?
Do you have BT on? BT is the number one drainer of batteries
Do you have WiFi on?
Well, I think I got it at the end of the December, and then I think I had everything replace in January. Yes, BT is on and WiFi is off. I'm pretty sure nothing is running in the background.. Thanks.
deeznuts2 said:
well obviously something is either running in the background without you knowing about it and/or your battery needs to be replaced.
So old is your unit/battery?
Do you have BT on? BT is the number one drainer of batteries
Do you have WiFi on?
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i recently found that S2U2 was draining my battery when activsync was running. i just upgraded to the newest s2u2 and the problem was fixed.
I found that my battery drained very quickly when I installed the .50 radio, but is better after I installed .40. Seems opposite to what you experienced.
prattner said:
i recently found that S2U2 was draining my battery when activsync was running. i just upgraded to the newest s2u2 and the problem was fixed.
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Same issue here. I upgraded to S2U2 1.18 only to fine it had made my battery life terrible. Going back to 0.99c immediately fixed my problem.
Does it happen even after a soft reset? If it were any software issue, a soft reset should fix it and your battery life should go back to normal once you come back.
Have you done anything with the GPS other than upgrading the ROM and radio? I know if the GPS is constantly searching for satellites, that'll drain your battery ridiculously quick.
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I found that my battery drained very quickly when I installed the .50 radio, but is better after I installed .40. Seems opposite to what you experienced.
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Same situation here with DCD 3.2.6 Went to .40 radio and all is well. I think GPS works faster but this may be my imagination.
to the OP: check that you don't have "Receive all beams" enabled. I did and by battery barely made it through the morning, after I disabled the Beam, my battery usually lasts the day.
Install the free acbpowermeter. It will show you a visual plot of milliamps over time. It won't identify the culprit directly, but it should help you figure it out.
Yes, well my battery lasts like for one hour or maybe two with me hardly using it at all. It's crazy.
I don't have S2U2 installed that I know of. I didn't install it manually unless it comes as one of the options in the Kitchen. I pretty much install everything in the Kitchen that's not a duplicate version of something. So, that's not my problem unless it's installed some how without my knowing it. Thanks.
sbddude said:
Same issue here. I upgraded to S2U2 1.18 only to fine it had made my battery life terrible. Going back to 0.99c immediately fixed my problem.
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Well, I don't know. I haven't tried the soft reset, but I turn the phone off all the time because of other issues I'm having with MMS and SMS messeging, keyboard delay, icons dissappearing, etc. that's also driving me crazy. I"m going to update that issue in another thread after this. Maybe that has something to do with this problem?
Keyboard Buffer Delay
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421077
I did do everything in this thread about GPS here:
I think I got it working! VERY FAST VZW GPS LOCK!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417412
Could something there have something to do with it? Could it be something to do with QuickGPS software? Thanks!
daddymac117 said:
Does it happen even after a soft reset? If it were any software issue, a soft reset should fix it and your battery life should go back to normal once you come back.
Have you done anything with the GPS other than upgrading the ROM and radio? I know if the GPS is constantly searching for satellites, that'll drain your battery ridiculously quick.
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Nope, that's not checked.
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to the OP: check that you don't have "Receive all beams" enabled. I did and by battery barely made it through the morning, after I disabled the Beam, my battery usually lasts the day.
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OK, I can try it but if I'm not running any software I don't see how it could help me unless I play with stuff to see what happens.. Maybe turn stuff off, etc. when it's draining really fast. Thanks.
Paul in Maryland said:
Install the free acbpowermeter. It will show you a visual plot of milliamps over time. It won't identify the culprit directly, but it should help you figure it out.
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Anyone else here experience a faster drain on the battery after going to WM6?
I noticed this the other day and quickly figured out that part of the problem is that I ticked the GPS option under Weather Panel. Once I turned that off I get longer life on the battery BUT, it's still not as good as when I was running WM5.
Anyone else notice this?
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Anyone else here experience a faster drain on the battery after going to WM6?
I noticed this the other day and quickly figured out that part of the problem is that I ticked the GPS option under Weather Panel. Once I turned that off I get longer life on the battery BUT, it's still not as good as when I was running WM5.
Anyone else notice this?
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Interestingly, I got home yesterday after work and noticed that I still got 60% leftover. I did find out though that if I left the wifi on it drained a lot faster.
Abram said:
Interestingly, I got home yesterday after work and noticed that I still got 60% leftover. I did find out though that if I left the wifi on it drained a lot faster.
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No WiFi on for sure. I'll try another battery. Thnx for the feedback.
ltxda said:
Anyone else here experience a faster drain on the battery after going to WM6?
I noticed this the other day and quickly figured out that part of the problem is that I ticked the GPS option under Weather Panel. Once I turned that off I get longer life on the battery BUT, it's still not as good as when I was running WM5.
Anyone else notice this?
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when ever someone does and upgrade there is a bttery problem let the battery drain to 20% and then recharge it then the problem will be solved thats in almost in evry WM6 ROM and not only Athena\Ameo but also other phones. so its not something to be worred about it will solve itself automatically after a complete drainage and then recharge process.
ltxda said:
Anyone else here experience a faster drain on the battery after going to WM6?
I noticed this the other day and quickly figured out that part of the problem is that I ticked the GPS option under Weather Panel. Once I turned that off I get longer life on the battery BUT, it's still not as good as when I was running WM5.
Anyone else notice this?
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I had noticed this, then I also noticed the unit was not powering off as instructed after the given time. A soft reset sorted that out. Battery life now seems back to normal.
Is this what everyone else is getting? I am running DCD's latest Rom and Radio.
I used to get two days, now i may get one. This is with no GPS running or any programs. Or making any calls.
Any advice?
Rephrase then.
How much battery life is everyone getting on the new Rom?
Are you sure your wi-fi switch is OFF?
quimbola said:
Is this what everyone else is getting? I am running DCD's latest Rom and Radio.
I used to get two days, now i may get one. This is with no GPS running or any programs. Or making any calls.
Any advice?
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"These are some factors that could cause your battery to drain fast"
The brightness of the screen is a factor. Try lowering it if possible.
Disable active sync, bluetooth, wifi, and beam when not needed.
Using the GPS drains the battery quick. ( results vary )
Push email also assists with battery drain.
Put your phone on standby when not in use.
Also the extensive use of PIE and Windows Media Player also assists with the drain of battery.
Last if you have poor signal strength this can also be a factor for battery drainage.
There are others out there but these are some that I encountered and learned live with.
There is a battery hack out there that can help you with your battery life. I don't know from the top of my head but search for a registry battery hack.
[email protected]$ said:
"These are some factors that could cause your battery to drain fast"
The brightness of the screen is a factor. Try lowering it if possible.
Disable active sync, bluetooth, wifi, and beam when not needed.
Using the GPS drains the battery quick. ( results vary )
Push email also assists with battery drain.
Put your phone on standby when not in use.
Also the extensive use of PIE and Windows Media Player also assists with the drain of battery.
Last if you have poor signal strength this can also be a factor for battery drainage.
There are others out there but these are some that I encountered and learned live with.
There is a battery hack out there that can help you with your battery life. I don't know from the top of my head but search for a registry battery hack.
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all those are try but when you first got your phone did you charge it all the way before using it cuz messes up the battery i know it did for me
Follow up.
On my original Rom I could get 48 hours on a charge.
Today I got 8 hours. I did not use GPS, I am not using vibrate for calls. I only got two calls. And two emails.
Basically I am using the same settings as I had on the original Rom and getting about 24 hours less battery life.
I guess I'll switch back and report then.
Perhaps this might be it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371734
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Perhaps this might be it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371734
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DAMN.. that would explain alot.. I have a feeling its the same bug with the titans..
I dunno... I've been through the progression from 2.0.0 to 2.1.0 to 2.2.0 to 2.3.2 and I haven't seen anything like this.
I use the phone for about 10 minutes a day, so not much call time, but I have it checking 4 IMAP accounts every 15 minutes, do about an hour of web browsing, and use the GPS two to three times a day (basically any time I drive anywhere cuz it's fun!) and the most my battery has drained is down to 70% after about 16 hours.
Just to give an alternate view... battery life has been very good for me.
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all those are try but when you first got your phone did you charge it all the way before using it cuz messes up the battery i know it did for me
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No. When I first got my phone I installed on the apps I researched before buying the phone, configured my WiFi, and imported my playlists from Windows Media and then I charged my phone with the AC adapter.
I use alot of WiFi through out the day along with Stereo Bluetooth Headphones to listen to music one Windows Media Player and I have a very good battery life.
Follow up.
My email server locked up this morning and my activesync wouldn't sync.
BUT my battery life was back to it's old self, used 6% in 4 hours. Very Happy!
Email server is now working and Active synce is syncing.
When I check the activesync program it always says connected now. Is that normal? It doesn't seem like it used to say connected all of the time.
It does look like activesynce may be the problem. The setting are the same as they were before the flash.
Any info would be appreciated.
Update: In case anybody is following this.
I went back to stock ROM and Radio.
Battery behavior is back to Normal. I am going to reflash to GPS Rom and see if that was the problem.
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Perhaps this might be it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371734
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I an confirm this too. A few days ago I noticed excessive battery drain and reset my phone, and put it out of my mind. The only later ROM that I'd retained for days at a time has been 2.3.1 and today my battery level feel down by 50% in ~6 hours of standby. With the power on, with 46% remaining, the OS estimation for usage was 26 minutes. In 1% increments I could see it counting down....
I checked all running processes and nothing was out of the ordinary and nothing except that running task manager was bothering the CPU.
On a reset it appears fine.. Disconcerting. My phone didn't demonstrate this behaviour with the DCD 2.1 and previous ROMs. I don't know if to go back to 2.1 or 1.6.10. I'll see if this issue shows up again over the next few days.
That was the same problem I had.
Hopefully I'll dp some more testing this weekend.
After a reset the draining was repeating for me.. I decided to revert back to a working DCD 2.1 set-up and all appears fine again.
2.3.1 ROM was a kitchen build including the transcriber and no2chem's nueLED v1.5. That's all that I can think of being out of the ordinary.
I thought I am the only way with this problem. I thought it just a bad battery. Using DCD 2.31. Before 2.31, battery is about 90% on casual used when I left work. With 2.31, it becomes 95% after it pull from the power plug. Browser the web for like 10 minutes, it goes down to like 92%. By the time I finished work, and get back home around 7, it left with like 30%. That's on casual use.
Anyone tried reflashing to see if that helps the battery consumption?
It seems like this is not common, but effects a few of us.
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It seems like this is not common, but effects a few of us.
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I am also noticing the same effects, i was thinking bout reflashing my rom, i am currently running dcd's 2.3.2
Flashed back to stock and then back to 2.3.2
It looks like I am seeing the same battery drain again!! ARGH!!!
My battery is dropping like crazy too since the latest kitchen. When I first went to DCD's first WM 6.1 ROM I was blown away by the battery life. Same settings , same apps, different ROM and the battery life blows.
I decided to wait it out for a week and see if the new ROM comes out, if not I'm going back to the WM6.1 ROM that I first tried.
Hi everyone, I really don't know where locate this "thing" is happening to my hero but it is definitely related to ROMs.
I recently post my battery problem in the battery's thread in this forum but seems like a battery calibration was not the solution.
I used to have Floyo on my hero and it worked perfect, also battery life was pretty good. Since I changed it to try another one, I can not have any 2.2 ROM in my hero cause battery drains almost 15-20%/hour with wifi off, sync off, screen minimum, 2G network, just the necessary to receive calls.
I've tried all 2.2 ROMs with different kernels, always wiping everything and none of them works property. I decided to install a 2.1 ROM and voila, more than 2 days of battery. Does anyone have any idea of the problem?
Other thing is driving me crazy is why I have to use toggle set (because of handset problem->always is on even when is not plugged) but only with VillainROM 12 I don't have this problem, I thought it was a hardware problem.
For all of this, my hero is understandable, any light to see what's going on? Thank you all
BEfore flashing a 2.2 ROM, wipe EVERYTHING, including battery stats. Let then the battery drain to 0, and charge the phone with the wall charger for 6-7 hours, then turn it on while it's still plugged and leave it like that for 1-2 hrs. Then unplug it and there will be no more drain.
Maybe this could also help you, when you set up your 2.2 rom for the first time,
have you ever disable google backup?
I have been told that drain battery like hell....
yukinok25 said:
Maybe this could also help you, when you set up your 2.2 rom for the first time,
have you ever disable google backup?
I have been told that drain battery like hell....
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Yes I did, actually I don't have now any data plan in my mobile cause I'm living abroad so I don't use internet/data at all. Thanks
adritati said:
Yes I did, actually I don't have now any data plan in my mobile cause I'm living abroad so I don't use internet/data at all. Thanks
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You welcome, worth of giving a try..
RaduG said:
BEfore flashing a 2.2 ROM, wipe EVERYTHING, including battery stats. Let then the battery drain to 0, and charge the phone with the wall charger for 6-7 hours, then turn it on while it's still plugged and leave it like that for 1-2 hrs. Then unplug it and there will be no more drain.
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Thanks, I'll try next time doing it in this way and I'll see the results thought I think it won't change cause even if it's not fully charged I wipe battery stats also when i flash
Batteries die with time, so if you keep having a problem, you can consider investing $20 in a Mugen Power extended battery (1550 mAh) which doesn't need the back cover to be changed.
I greatly recommend it.
I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight here.
I've noticed horrible battery life, and constant 200 - 600ma current draw. My awake time is absurdly high too. Then all of a sudden last night I noticed it was only pulling 50ma, and the awake time was staying low. Nothing had changed, no app updates, nothing at all. It just suddenly stopped having a wake-lock. Then this morning it went back to being wonky. So I finally gave in and did a hard reset, everything back to stock, installed just one app, battery monitor widget, turned on airplane mode (I thought maybe weak signal was a factor) and left the phone alone for a few hours. When I got back to it, the entire time it was pulling between 360 and 450ma, and the awake time matched the uptime (well, only off by a few minutes). To reiterate, this was with the radios off, and a fresh hard reset.
I really don't know what else to do.
I should mention this same behavior was exhibited on my first Evo3D that I swapped for a broken vibrator motor, so I don't think this is a hardware fault. Actually back then I thought it was normal, so I didn't think about it much, but then I got to thinking it's not normal for an idle phone to die in 8 hours with airplane mode on and no activity...
Thanks for any ideas!
Try downloading an app called CPU Spy and make sure you're phone is going into "deep sleep". If it isn't, I would start going through the apps through process of elimination by uninstalling each one and resetting the timer each time on CPU Spy.
clankfu said:
Try downloading an app called CPU Spy and make sure you're phone is going into "deep sleep". If it isn't, I would start going through the apps through process of elimination by uninstalling each one and resetting the timer each time on CPU Spy.
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Thank you, I'll mess around with that, but I think you have missed my point...this is happening with 100% freshly reset stock, so there is nothing to uninstall. The only thing is I haven't taken the .7 update, which might have a bearing on it.
ffolkes said:
Thank you, I'll mess around with that, but I think you have missed my point...this is happening with 100% freshly reset stock, so there is nothing to uninstall. The only thing is I haven't taken the .7 update, which might have a bearing on it.
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Gotcha. Well, give CPU Spy a go. Also, I would download Juice Defender from the Market. I've noticed a significant increase in battery life since I started using it.
ffolkes said:
Thank you, I'll mess around with that, but I think you have missed my point...this is happening with 100% freshly reset stock, so there is nothing to uninstall. The only thing is I haven't taken the .7 update, which might have a bearing on it.
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Try checking your wifi policy. Set it to always on while plugged in or something other than never.
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clankfu said:
Try downloading an app called CPU Spy and make sure you're phone is going into "deep sleep". If it isn't, I would start going through the apps through process of elimination by uninstalling each one and resetting the timer each time on CPU Spy.
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Nice app. I let it run for about an hour, it showed something like 7% sleep, 70% 384 MHz and the rest was 1188. I uninstalled the only thing, Battery Monitor Widget, then reset CPU Spy's stats and waited another hour...now it's 97% sleeping, 2% 384, 1% 1188. Looks like BMW was the problem. Thanks for the app suggestion.
Any kind of monitoring app will drain your battery more.
Locked & Loaded
Battery monitor widget doesn't show accurate readings yet. The guy that made it emailed me and said it should be fixed in one of the upcoming updates.
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ffolkes said:
I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight here.
I've noticed horrible battery life, and constant 200 - 600ma current draw. My awake time is absurdly high too. Then all of a sudden last night I noticed it was only pulling 50ma, and the awake time was staying low. Nothing had changed, no app updates, nothing at all. It just suddenly stopped having a wake-lock. Then this morning it went back to being wonky. So I finally gave in and did a hard reset, everything back to stock, installed just one app, battery monitor widget, turned on airplane mode (I thought maybe weak signal was a factor) and left the phone alone for a few hours. When I got back to it, the entire time it was pulling between 360 and 450ma, and the awake time matched the uptime (well, only off by a few minutes). To reiterate, this was with the radios off, and a fresh hard reset.
I really don't know what else to do.
I should mention this same behavior was exhibited on my first Evo3D that I swapped for a broken vibrator motor, so I don't think this is a hardware fault. Actually back then I thought it was normal, so I didn't think about it much, but then I got to thinking it's not normal for an idle phone to die in 8 hours with airplane mode on and no activity...
Thanks for any ideas!
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I'm with you on this, I think you're into something. I've seen the same behavior too a few times. Some days I'd be surprised on how good my battery life has been and some days I'd get pissed.
The other day mine was drawing like 400ma without doing anything (looking at the history of battery monitor widget). So, yes, I agree with you. Something funky is going on.
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Did you also apply the OTA? I was having wake lock issues before applying the OTA and now that I did, the phone hardly drains over night after being unplugged.
Turn off htc sync. Fixes it.
aimbdd said:
Turn off htc sync. Fixes it.
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Are you referring to syncing HTC sense under accounts and sync?
Yes. At least that fixed it for me. Taking both updates should also fix it.
aimbdd said:
Yes. At least that fixed it for me. Taking both updates should also fix it.
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Good to know. I have the two OTAs also. I uninstalled Battery Monitor Widget and I have noticed that it is draining a lot slower. so like the OP mentioned. I think that was the culprint. I will keep checking the next couple of days.
I noticed that too. Since the drainage ratings are incorrect... there is no reason to use it.
Had the same issue called htc and they told me it was a software issue and my phone needed replaced
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aimbdd said:
Turn off htc sync. Fixes it.
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I wonder if thats why my phone dies so damn fast..... Im going to try this
aimbdd said:
Turn off htc sync. Fixes it.
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By HTC sync, do you mean "Auto Sync"?
Oooohhhh, OP's subject is about the phone...
Cuz I have the same problem, phone is fine though.
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By HTC sync, do you mean "Auto Sync"?
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No. I mean Htc Sense sync. Turned that off and it fixed it for me.
I have a serious problem.
My battery is draining more charge when it is powered off than when it is on!
First off, yes, I am powering it off and not just putting it in sleep.
What happens is this; I power it off for the night, battery at 100, turn it on in morning, battery is at 70-50! Now get this, I reboot this morning, battery instantly drops another 10%!!!!
What on earth is going on here? Does anyone else's have similar problems? I did Google it, but can't find a solution, although it looks like I am not the only one with the problem!
Please help!
Edit: here is a screenshot of my battery use, if anyone wants (sorry, don't know how to post picture other than as attachment)
I had this situation once before. After I updated my firmware to 2.3.5 from 2.2, it never happened again. Hope this help.
Tim_Lau said:
I had this situation once before. After I updated my firmware to 2.3.5 from 2.2, it never happened again. Hope this help.
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Mine is US version, comes with 2.3.5.
Use the original version 2.2 Froyo that came with it. I did not want to update because everything works fine. no bugs of any kind. I think I did the right thing, because I have read several bugs related to the update to 2.3.5.
Do not always update is really necessary. Unless something does not work well or update the device will really improve. But this is not always true.
In my case the battery has excellent durability. An exception to games but that's with any Android. Even with a 2500 MAH as the G70. Luckily, I'm not adept at games.
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Use the original version 2.2 Froyo that came with it. I did not want to update because everything works fine. no bugs of any kind. I think I did the right thing, because I have read several bugs related to the update to 2.3.5.
Do not always update is really necessary. Unless something does not work well or update the device will really improve. But this is not always true.
In my case the battery has excellent durability. An exception to games but that's with any Android. Even with a 2500 MAH as the G70. Luckily, I'm not adept at games.
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Please read my post above you;
U.S. version=2.3.5, not downgradable!
Hey man I had the same problem with mine several times now, last night I decided to disable my wifi and this morning I still have full battery, not sure if the two are connected but I thought I would post this anyway!
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Jeremiah_1988 said:
Hey man I had the same problem with mine several times now, last night I decided to disable my wifi and this morning I still have full battery, not sure if the two are connected but I thought I would post this anyway!
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I've notcied that my battery would drain faster when connected to wifi at home.
I have 5.0, 2.3.5 US version. I had a problem getting mine to charge to 100% (seemed to stop at 80%), but finally it hit 100%. Got to 80% in 3-4 hours, got to 100 in 6 hours extra!
Mine seems to drain "normally", at 65% after 23 hours. Not been doing a lot with it, just messing with apps (installing, rearranging). I always turn off wifi when not using it (especially if there's none around).
You might install "Power Tudor" and see what exactly is using that much power to drain yours that fast. Could be something stuck syncing (like if you have mail set to sync every 10 minutes).
Well, the thing is, it shouldn't be syncing or doing anything while powered off! Oh well, I have just gone to putting in airplane mode, then letting it sleep at night, doesn't burn any battery that way anyway!
Just curious, isn't "airplane mode" the same as just turning off wifi, since it has no cell radios?
I also question the time scale on the battery chart, never seems right to me. If your graph is 10 hours, and it was off at night, I would think it should register than 6-8 hours (or whatever your "night" was. Looks like it was only about an hour.
iJimaniac said:
Well, the thing is, it shouldn't be syncing or doing anything while powered off! Oh well, I have just gone to putting in airplane mode, then letting it sleep at night, doesn't burn any battery that way anyway!
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airplane mode turns off all antennas (wifi,GPS,FM radio). Yeah the battery chart doesn't make Denver to me either, but whatever.
Just keep it plugged in at night, I guess.
iJimaniac said:
airplane mode turns off all antennas (wifi,GPS,FM radio). Yeah the battery chart doesn't make Denver to me either, but whatever.
Just keep it plugged in at night, I guess.
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Either that's a joke I don't get or a really funny autocorrect
yup, that would be auto correct!
either was the word I'm looking for.