I have looked for the answer but did not find it on the the wiki or forums
what are the main differences between the different build of 6.1 i.e. 20273 and 20748 and later, anyone know what has changed? some kind of changelog would be nice, so we can decide if its worth upgrading or not...
try actually lookin on the rom pages there is a change log in each of the custom roms there
warsng said:
I have looked for the answer but did not find it on the the wiki or forums
what are the main differences between the different build of 6.1 i.e. 20273 and 20748 and later, anyone know what has changed? some kind of changelog would be nice, so we can decide if its worth upgrading or not...
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We dont have any real change logs for the WM builds, MS does not put them out.
But each custom rom has its down change logs.
(20748 adds flash lite v3.1, and some enhancements to IE, we know that much)
veyka said:
We dont have any real change logs for the WM builds, MS does not put them out.
But each custom rom has its down change logs.
(20748 adds flash lite v3.1, and some enhancements to IE, we know that much)
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the 20748 has as well many more registry enhancements doesnt seem like just a little update a few old tweaks dont work on it ...... and so on
its like wm6.1 20748 SP2
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I'm a novice chef and I'm seeing more and more people use a hybrid build for their roms. For example, NATF is using 21009 which he got from Da_G and I'm wondering why? I've been using NATF's ROMS has a base for my customizations and I'm looking to start building my own base. Since NATF went away from the stock AT&T ROM I've noticed the hybrids are quirky so I'm trying to get a handle on why chefs are using them as I go forward.
Also, is there a good collection of Packages somewhere for bundling in to a rom?
JoeWilcox said:
I'm a novice chef and I'm seeing more and more people use a hybrid build for their roms. For example, NATF is using 21009 which he got from Da_G and I'm wondering why? I've been using NATF's ROMS has a base for my customizations and I'm looking to start building my own base. Since NATF went away from the stock AT&T ROM I've noticed the hybrids are quirky so I'm trying to get a handle on why chefs are using them as I go forward.
Also, is there a good collection of Packages somewhere for bundling in to a rom?
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There are alot of reasons for making a hybrid. The main reason is taking the best of everything. a dll from here, a package from there, a sys from here, a xip from there. You are right that it can be quirky. However it can also yield incredible roms if done right.
Honestly there is no great location for packages. Most of them are collected over time. I have several hundred that it has taken me years to get. Probably about half of those are now out of date. The best thing you can do is just start searching. If there are any specific ones you need let me know and ill see if I have them.
JoeWilcox said:
I'm a novice chef and I'm seeing more and more people use a hybrid build for their roms. For example, NATF is using 21009 which he got from Da_G and I'm wondering why? I've been using NATF's ROMS has a base for my customizations and I'm looking to start building my own base. Since NATF went away from the stock AT&T ROM I've noticed the hybrids are quirky so I'm trying to get a handle on why chefs are using them as I go forward.
Also, is there a good collection of Packages somewhere for bundling in to a rom?
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Hybrid builds may introduce some quirks, but they rarely cause "dealbreakers" as I've seen some problems referred to lately.
Two positive examples of hybrid builds that immediately spring to mind are: MS Voice Command [was broken in Fuze stock ROM - needed a new DLL and OS build to correct], and GPS Navigation [horrible in Fuze stock ROM for 99% of people - needed Blackstone/Diamond drivers and registry changes to correct].
One dealbreaker would be: Captain Throwback. When he flashed to my ROM based on 21009, his Exchange connection suddenly stopped working. This began as a dealbreaker, but ended up being narrowed down to his SD card being partitioned, which OS 21009 didn't like. This is a quirk that was resolved by creating one big SD card.
Unfortunately that hasn't been a good collection of ROM packages created for the Raphael yet. On the Kaiser, _Alex_ distributed a modified version of KaiserKitchen along with a rather large collection of QVGA packages.
I totally agree that spot fixes like the GPS/DirectX drivers from the Blackthrone are important additions. I didn't realize MSVC was broken with the base AT&T build. That can certainly be a good reason to upgrade. That's sort of why I wanted to get a handle on why you guys were doing it. To me, MSVC isn't worth losing multi-select but I'm sure it is to others.
I'd love to see a base OS thread where we can just discuss updates/changes like this without the clutter of general support for a ROM.
I agree, _ALEX_'s kitchen was awesome on the Kaiser. I've been putting together a collection for my own use, maybe we should all just get together and create a good set of packages for chefs.
You don't need to lose multiselect, it's controlled by a registry key (which i discuss in my 20xxx registry settings thread in the raphael forum)
Also, the fix for MSVC in stock fuze rom is simply a blackstone wavedev.dll driver, don't need to upgrade the os to fix that, just extract rom, drop in driver replacement, cook
Da_G said:
You don't need to lose multiselect, it's controlled by a registry key (which i discuss in my 20xxx registry settings thread in the raphael forum)
Also, the fix for MSVC in stock fuze rom is simply a blackstone wavedev.dll driver, don't need to upgrade the os to fix that, just extract rom, drop in driver replacement, cook
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I can't seem to get rid of multiselect using that registry key. It's cooked into my latest ROM, but multiselect is still there.
I thought we tried dropping the DLL file into the stock ROM, but it wouldn't take... since the OS is 19971.
I've tried many roms for my raphael, though they are all good, but most of them have extras that I don't need, and they can't be uninstall.
Is there a ROM with just a basic (no extra 3rd party apps) functions?
A clean ROM basically, for raphael?
Thanks
If you like i could maybe upload my ROM and list the applications i do have on it etc and remove them for you ? It's a very basic ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480003
cleanest i've ever seen around, though pfc doesn't cook publicly anymore.
and with 218 posts under your belt and a member since 07, you should know better than to post this question here
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If you like i could maybe upload my ROM and list the applications i do have on it etc and remove them for you ? It's a very basic ROM.
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That would be great and appreciated
nitroblu said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480003
cleanest i've ever seen around, though pfc doesn't cook publicly anymore.
and with 218 posts under your belt and a member since 07, you should know better than to post this question here
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Well... i've just upgraded my trinity to touch pro recently, and I'm a newbie here
and as far as i can see, that rom isn't very clean (maybe the cleanest among the available ones)
I don't really need stuffs like google map, spb calculator (basic calculator is enough), total commander, etc
cleanest in my opinion would be da_g's roms. basically you cook your own rom by selecting what you want...or what you dont want.
check it out
for 6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446652
for 6.5 (my preference)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513605
Newest EnergyROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511146
Download "Plain Jane no homescreen interface" version
Da_G's plain ROM is great, but you have to install a number of things to get good functionality (better left to those very experienced with customizing).
The plain interface version of the EnergyROM is a good mix and doesn't have any unnecessary UI elements. Very fast IMHO and includes good apps without programs that no one uses (except Windows Live )
sayazs said:
for 6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446652
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GREAT!! but it's for Fuze... i'm using Touch Pro... does it matter?
sayazs said:
for 6.5 (my preference)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513605
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Mmm... does 6.5 work best with touch pro?
and what is MSVC?
drazah101 said:
If you like i could maybe upload my ROM and list the applications i do have on it etc and remove them for you ? It's a very basic ROM.
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PM replied
rockuman_ex said:
Well... i've just upgraded my trinity to touch pro recently, and I'm a newbie here
and as far as i can see, that rom isn't very clean (maybe the cleanest among the available ones)
I don't really need stuffs like google map, spb calculator (basic calculator is enough), total commander, etc
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i don't remember there being a spb calc on it, and everything else like google maps IS uninstallable
edit : i see wat ur talkin about now, his applicaiton list. he musta have forgtten to remove that, it's not on there. but as sum1 above suggested, the cleanest way is to use da_g's kitchen and cook ur own rom, he's made it very simple for any noob to use.
I was wondering this also
Da_G's Simple ROM Kitchen
Agreed ... Da_G's Simple ROM Kitchen is the quickest way to cook a ROM to one's liking. There is a fair number of packages already included in the kitchen that can be selected/unselected.
Here's the link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471288
HTH,
sshhhh ... rumour has it that an update to the kitchen will be out shortly ... don't tell anyone though.
I nominate At0mAng 5.4 rom. Its based on the latest build (from what I could see, the rest were not), avaliable both with AT&T and HTC hardware, and is pretty close to stock in the apps and visual customizations thats included.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502421
yukster said:
I nominate At0mAng 5.4 rom. Its based on the latest build (from what I could see, the rest were not), avaliable both with AT&T and HTC hardware, and is pretty close to stock in the apps and visual customizations thats included.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502421
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Louzeberry is also using the latest WM6.1 build but of cse it's not as lean as cooking your own ROM, but it looks darn good!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514273
I am looking for a 6.5 base to enable me to do some cooking, alternativly an unprotected 6.5 athena rom that I can dump and re-build.
If someone could point me in the right direction I would be very grateful, I realise this is a long shot as I beleive the only one to have cooked a 6.5 is mitchy
I am with you on this one. would help in anyway I can. because we need a more stable 6.5 rom
lennie said:
I am with you on this one. would help in anyway I can. because we need a more stable 6.5 rom
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Can FB and or FT also put their hands to this? FT's Rom for Vox is particularly and unbelievably stable.
I am going to attempt to dump a stock 6.1 rom into visual kitchen and then try and replace the 6.1 sys with 6.5, hopefully this will work I have not attempted anything this involved to date.
My plan will be to try and port the latest stable 6.5 build, including the 6.5 kernel, however in my brief search the only 6.1 base I can find is an old beta test version that has some known bugs but I am hoping that the newer 6.5 bits and pieces will fix these.
If anyone has a stable, bug free 6.1 base let me know.
Any other help would be welcomed, I will try and update my progress going forward if anyones interested, if not I will keep it to myself, lol
After some help now, I am in the position where I am able to dump a stock 6.0 rom, the plan is to then port the sys and xip from one of the 6.5 builds probably 23037.
The question is how do I know or specify which spl the rom with end up with?
avengerpenguin said:
After some help now, I am in the position where I am able to dump a stock 6.0 rom, the plan is to then port the sys and xip from one of the 6.5 builds probably 23037.
The question is how do I know or specify which spl the rom with end up with?
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I think that depends on the spl the rom had that you dumped....also, it can depend on the donor xip
Lucky catch
http://hotfile.com/dl/8742490/c7ad60d/Windows_Mobile_6.5.part1.rar.html
http://hotfile.com/dl/8742705/4aac53a/Windows_Mobile_6.5.part2.rar.html
http://hotfile.com/dl/8742953/7ee7752/Windows_Mobile_6.5.part3.rar.html
lennie said:
I think that depends on the spl the rom had that you dumped....also, it can depend on the donor xip
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I am hoping that it is from the donor xip, as I am in the process of flashing my first ported 6.5 rom and dont really want it bricked on my first attempt.
Well after another few hours of work I have finally got a base kitchen to work from and have successfully ported a 23001 6.5rom to the x7500.
I will do some more refinements to it now, and then possibly look into a later sys and xip build.
If anyone wants to beta test, let me know, but I must stress that this is a learning process for me and therefore I cannot take any responsibility for bricks etc.
Hi there!
I need a working ROM for my HTC Touch Pro.
I found one (hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164) but that one was posted in 2007 so the download file is long gone from the internet! It was a ROM with a Stock market tab in FT3D.
I've read the rules and the Wiki but still I can't find what I'm looking for on this forum because of the many ROM's people have made! Don't get me wrong: I think that's great but I need help locating the right manilla that can be downloaded! Or point me in the direction were to look!
Thanks for your help! and greetingz from Holland
Mike
Er...
Well the latest is Manila 2.5 or sense 2.5 w/e you want to call it.
Most of the roms offer one or the other.
perrsonally i recommend energy rom... they're wonderful.
Leo version is slow but pretty
Pheonix two is strong.
rahul_bhatia said:
Well the latest is Manila 2.5 or sense 2.5 w/e you want to call it.
Most of the roms offer one or the other.
perrsonally i recommend energy rom... they're wonderful.
Leo version is slow but pretty
Pheonix two is strong.
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Agreed.
rahul_bhatia said:
Well the latest is Manila 2.5 or sense 2.5 w/e you want to call it.
Most of the roms offer one or the other.
perrsonally i recommend energy rom... they're wonderful.
Leo version is slow but pretty
Pheonix two is strong.
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Oké! Thanks for your replay. I've read somewere that manilla 2.6 is still in beta?
I know (from the wiki) that I have a HTC "Raphael" (touch pro...duh! ) but I see a lot of ROM's for the Diamond and pro 2 aswell! Do they all work fine on the Touch pro to? As a newbie I don't know were to look for when I'm looking for a ROM.
Can I create a ROM of my one? What need I to do that? I know my way around Paint Shop Pro but not around programming like in C++.
Manila (aka SenseUI)
Newer versions of Manila may require that you use a WinMO 6.5 custom ROM as HTC released the new 2.x versions of Manila (aka Sense) on devices that sported WinMO 6.5.
Additionally, some of the recent Manila releases (ex: 2.5, 2.6) may be versions obtained from dev/test ROM source. If you're after stability or rely on your device, this may not be preferable.
Custom ROM's
There are several customs available ... some chefs even release different ROM streams. In many cases, custom ROM's will also contain recent application updates. If you're after stability or rely on your device, once again this may not be preferable.
Custom ROM's are usually specific to devices. For example, if you own a Raphael GSM device, you only flash custom ROM that are Raphael GSM specific. Flashing custom ROM's from a different device or CDMA may permanently damage your device.
Kitchen (DIY Custom ROM)
Building a custom ROM has become much simpler. Many chefs who have moved onto another mobile device will often release a final ROM as well as the kitchen they use to prepare the ROM ... this serves as a great starting point.
Additionally, there are many tutorials available on how to use kitchens floating around the forum.
Lastly, moderators typically close threads requesting "What's The Best ROM" as selecting a custom ROM is like choosing a vehicle, house, partner ... it's all about personal preference. And from past experiences, these types of threads usually get out of control pretty quick. So, to avoid having a thread that you start closed, it is best to avoid "What's The Best ROM" discussions.
HTH,
OH..........sorry!
Don't want to upset the moderators!
Then I have just one final question:
Is there on this forum-part a topic with a standard ROM with instruction on how to customize it? Or can I find those things in the Wiki?
I would like to contribute to theme's or even a Dutch ROM.
I only need to know/learn how to do that! Can someone give me a link to some documentation and files/programs to use?
Thanks!
mww1977 said:
Is there on this forum-part a topic with a standard ROM with instruction on how to customize it? Or can I find those things in the Wiki?
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AFAIK, there isn't a "Generic" ROM with customization tips. What most members do is download a kitchen and post any customization related question in the corresponding kitchen thread.
[KITCHENS & OEM PACKAGES] Raphael GSM Devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582134
I would like to contribute to theme's or even a Dutch ROM.
I only need to know/learn how to do that! Can someone give me a link to some documentation and files/programs to use?
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For additional applications and theme customization, look at these sections of XDA. They may provide the information you are after.
Windows Mobile Development and Hacking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=522
Windows Mobile Development and Hacking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=473
Cheers,
Hello everyone,
first i'd like to thank everyone in this forum that works hard to provide us with such amazing stuff! It's really a great job!
I would like to know if anyone can help me...
I'm looking for an original Microsoft, unmodded version of WM 6.5.3... So far i have been unable to find one... I found some versions here but all of them are modded and that doesn't work for me...
I wanted to install a ROM that is not modified so I can conduct some experiences in memory and CPU usage.
If anyone can forward me to a link or post it here I would be tremendously grateful!
Keep up the good work!
Manny
galen_cathal said:
Hello everyone,
I'm looking for an original Microsoft, unmodded version of WM 6.5.3... So far i have been unable to find one... I found some versions here but all of them are modded and that doesn't work for me...
I wanted to install a ROM that is not modified so I can conduct some experiences in memory and CPU usage.
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Ok, i might have not expressed myself in the best way... What I need is a build of WM 6.5.3...
I should have been clearer.
I searched the forum here and did not find any...
Thanks again,
Manny
Hmm, just a little question, you want a rom for your Nike, or you wanna make a rom for your Nike.
If you want a rom with a minimal of apps installes, just see my signature.
If you want to make your own rom, just take a look HERE.
Greetz,
What I am looking for is an installable build of WM 6.5.3... Not a cooked ROM.
I wanted to test some parameters such as battery usage, memory usage and other parameters using only "official" builds.
It would be a test of WM 6.1 VS WM 6.5.3 on the Niki for the parameters i mentioned!
But i seem to not be able to find any builds other than those available for cooking...
I don't want to cook! I don't know how...
I remember that a year ago we were abound with WM 6.5 builds ready for download and install and now I can't seem to find this anywhere. I know that WM 7 is around the corner but there's got to be someone that still has this online...
I just want to see if using both on the Niki makes a big difference!
Thanks again
galen_cathal said:
What I am looking for is an installable build of WM 6.5.3... Not a cooked ROM.
I wanted to test some parameters such as battery usage, memory usage and other parameters using only "official" builds.
It would be a test of WM 6.1 VS WM 6.5.3 on the Niki for the parameters i mentioned!
But i seem to not be able to find any builds other than those available for cooking...
I don't want to cook! I don't know how...
I remember that a year ago we were abound with WM 6.5 builds ready for download and install and now I can't seem to find this anywhere. I know that WM 7 is around the corner but there's got to be someone that still has this online...
I just want to see if using both on the Niki makes a big difference!
Thanks again
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Okay now I know what you want but as far as I know there isn't an original WM 6.5 for the Nike only the cooked versions.
Greetz,