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First of all, I'm not asking HOW to upgrade. All I am asking is if its EASIER AND SAFER than through activesync. I ask cuz I have tried flashing before (through activesync), and it did not go as planned.
I want to try out the diff ROMs but I am still kinda traumatized from my last attempt.
BTW, what does this mean
"For normal (non preproduction) devices keep in mind that if the CID does not match the flashing will not work. The CID for each ROM is listed on the Hermes Upgrades page. You can....."
Maybe I had problems flashing before cuz of MY 'CID'??
My 8525 has this:
SPL 2.03
Radio version: 1.54.07.00
Am I ready to upgrade ROMs? OR should I do something else FIRST (i.e. Super CID)??
** AND if I upgrade through SD Card, I wouldn't have to do the HardSPL correct? (Because it's safer through an SD Card(?)...)**
well, if you upgrade through sd card, you cant accidentally disconnect the cable, or you dont have to worry if your pc crashed, or if there's a power outage (unless u're using a laptop). but even if you are using the sd card, it is still advisable to hardspl your device. hardspl will bypass CID so you wont have that "CID problem", which btw can also be done by forcing sspl. you can also hardspl through the sd card if you are just too traumatized to do it through normal means
I prefer through sd card as its safer from "accidental" resets, power outages and people disconnecting the usb. Its pretty hard to pry my hermes out of my hand and hit the reset button. As for Hard SPL, You have to be NUTS NOT to have it on your hermes.. It makes it SOOOOOO much easier if(and when) something goes wrong. Would REALLY recommend putting it on, ESPECIALLY if you're going to "try out the diff ROMs". Its better to put it on your phone than to post "PLEASE HELP, BRICKED MY PHONE WHILE FLASHING" as seen a lot.
Happy flashing... Cheeers...
Hi,
i flashed a rom 2 weeks ago, everything went well. yesterday i wanted to flash another os but before i could flash it, it seemed to get bricked. It stucks on the "HTC Splash" (not the WM6 Splash). I read a lot of threads and wiki threads but i don't unterstand anything! What i've to do to unbrick my phone? I tried to flash another rom but after 0% of flashing a error appears.... flashing with sd card doesn't work, too it changes to bootloader after the "Loading..." screen
i havent got hardspl or something...
please help!
UPDATE: i got the sd flashing to work... same thing but: now it stucks at the WM splash, not the t-mobile/htc one...
You need to find out what SPL you have (I'm guessing 2.03 but if you have 2.10 olipro then its got Hard SPl on it) and then do a search for "bricked SPL x.xx". You will probably find a HEAP of posts. However, some advice that seems to recover a small minority (sometimes with the "No GSM" error) -
1st thing to do is do a hard reset. Both softkeys and reset with stylus. Hold in all buttons until it asks if you want to reset to factory. Press "R" on the slideout keyboard and the "Space".
Hopefully this will fix. If it doesn't, Put it in bootloader, connect to pc (make sure "Allow USB Connection" Active Sync settings have been unticked) and run the SHIPPED STOCK ROM. This is the rom the Hermes came with originally. This MAY fix it otherwise you're in for some major reading and hair pulling.
If you should fix this then PLEASE, for the love of god, Hard SPL your Hermes before going into the wide world of flashing.....
Good Luck...
thanks i'll try it. hard reset causes kinda... nothing^^
i hope i can fix it otherwise i'll buy a touch pro
...but i think it doesn't work, because i flashed a shipped rom via sd card yesterday and the problem is still there... isn't there any way to put hard spl on my device, yet?
Try re-installing the stock rom again using sd card (if thatys how you did it last time), it could've been a bad flash. I've had those a couple of times myself. Just remember to install Hard SPL if you're successful as it makes it SOOOO much easier to recover from bad flashes.
Last thing to check would be if you have "bad blocks" using MTTY. If the boot sector has been stuffed up this may cause this problem. Do a search through the wiki, its been covered extensively...
Cheers...
okay i think my problem is solved: t-mobile replaced my device
first thing i'll do with my new device: HardSPL^^
anyhow thanks!
Upgrade successful but now stuck
I have a Three (au) Dopod 838 pro, which I upgraded from the original Windows Mobile 5 to the Three Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM. Unfortunately I didn't read up on this site first, I thought it would be straightforward since it was a ROM from the manufacturer and all, so I haven't Hard SSPL.
The upgrade reported as successful and my PC disconnected but the phone won't boot, it sticks at the Dopod screen with some numbers at the bottom. They are:
M 05 R 1.47.30.10
S 04 G 32.80.7020.20H
B 07 D 3.54
I have tried hard resetting, and returning the phone to bootloader and reflashing the same new ROM image, always with the same result.
On the bootloader, it says
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-2.03
Is there anything which can be done or is it a trip to the service centre (wherever that is)?
Just checking - Hard reset = both soft keys above the dialler closest to the lcd and reset with stylus. Hold in until it asks if you want to reset to factory. Press r on slideout keyboard then space.
This is a hard reset, not just using the stylus.
Otherwise, you have a LOT of reading material to go through with (maybe) no actual solution.
Cheers...
tried that
Thanks, but yes, I had tried that, a number of times. I think the phone will be going to a service centre today.
Hey, my phone is an At&t 8525 and after finally fixing the white screen problem and flashing hard-spl v7 and a couple of roms I bricked the phone when flashing the last touch flo rom. During the flash the ruu wrapper stopped and indicated there was an error. I did the recovery and it supposedly completed succesfully if I can remember right. When it reboot it would not get past boot loader. And thats where I am now, the phone will not get past boot loader.
I've tried every method on these forum I could found
SD card flashing dosent work, I get the 002..... error in red.
Flashing the factory an at&t rom dosent work either, gets the same error
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As for as I know the MTTY method dosent work, I don't know how to type in commands into bootloader and when I type in 14 0 in MTTY nothing happens
KITL is not enabled
IPL-1.04
SPL-2.03
The phone does not boot into bootloader when I hit the power button, I have to hold the comm button, power button, and soft reset in order to bring up bootloader.
When bootloader is up and the phone is connected to the computer via usb bootloader displays usb on the screen and windows detects the device as an HTC device.
Again i've spent about a week and a half trying to fix this phone and I don't know what to do anymore, i've tried more methods than listed above I can't remember though. If anyone can give me a hint on what to do I would highly appreciate it. Thanks
P.S Can someone please tell me how you type commands in bootloader or MTTY
You DON'T have Hard SPL V7 installed..... Otherwise your SPL would be 2.10.
Connect the Hermes to the pc, make sure active sync has benn disabled - got to settings, untick connect by USB. It should register on the pc. Go to bootloader then run the .nbh file for your stock rom... Make sure its the carrier rom that it was shipped with. It doesn't have to be WM05 but it DOES have to be your ORIGINAL carrier rom. Let it run through, you may gewt lucky.....
If it works, INSTALL HARD SPL V7....... Makes it so much easier to fix then...
Good luck...
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated
I tried downloading and sd card flashing a stock rom from a list of factory roms of all Hermes that I found here on xda. It gave me the same error though. I'm not exactly sure which exact rom to download from that list either. Any more help would be appreciated, thx
Wow I feel retarded, I used the wrong factory rom. After I used the right one it worked perfectly, I now have my 8525 back! Thx so much man, ur the friggin man!
Congrats bro you got it atlast. good luck & take care your baby in future. try to help others with your experience.
Glad you fixed it mate, but if I were you I'd also make sure you have Hard SPL V7 installed. It is the safety net to help when things go wrong... Never gonna be 100% safe but better odds with Hard SPL V7...
SPL - 2.10 oli
Cheers...
Ok... Rejoining the 8525 Clan
Is this Forum still alive???
Been a while guys, figured I would break out the 8525... charge it up and see what kind of things are new in this community. Unfortunately, it looks as if the radio is bricked on it. Seems like it will install ROM's that the radio is not included on. NO GSM is on the boot display, which is strange as I was using this phone until I got the Tilt about 1 1/2-2 yrs ago. I was a hardcore flasher back then... every other day it seemed, so I know it has (or had) everything it needed like the Oli 2.10 SPL... but it seems like I cannot recover this radio issue.
I am messing with the different original OEM and Carrier ROMs hoping I can get passed the 11-12% mark, and I will let you know if something changes. Any idea if un-installing SPL 2.10 Oli, and then trying to walk back through the old SPL steps could help? I am just trying to figure out another way to get around this radio issue... or basically I have a PDA, no phone Damn phone hasn't been touched in like 2 years, you think it would be just as fine as it was when I took the SIM out.
Cheers
Can u plz tell me how do you fix the white screen problem ?????
kashifmehmood said:
Can u plz tell me how do you fix the white screen problem ?????
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Dear Members,
I tried to upgrade my JasJam with "838Pro_HK_ENG_WM6_Upgrade_20070712"
Which worked with other JasJams (Many of my friends has it working).
On upgrading, it stucked on 11% saying Error [262]
I went through recovery, and it said remove the USB cable, remove the Battry, Return it, start the phone, connect the USB, and its recovered.
After that Its again stucked in 100% and the same senario is happening.
Please tell me is there any possibility to restore my phone working.
Its stuck now, and only the (Three color screen) is on the screen.
Hard reset, soft reset is not functioning, and the phone refused to show anything except the three color screen.
I searched the forum, but found no relative article, I am searching since two days your forum and I know that no other forums can help me in this as I was always getting my help from yours.
Thanks for your time.
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-1. 40. 0lopro
If you're using XP then untick "Allow USB Connection" in activesync.
Reset to bootloader on your Hermes, Hold power, OK button above flywheel and reset with stylus.You will get the same screen you have now but it won't be a f*&%ed up version of bootloader. Connect to PC by USB and Install Hard SPL V7, found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
After this, use the sd card method to install the ROM.
1. Format a 2Gb or less sd card FAT32. ?CFopy the .nbh file of the rom you want to it and rename to hermimg.nbh .
2. Insert into phone and reset to bootloader.
3 If you did everything right then follow the prompts...
Cheers...
Again problem!
Dear ultramag69,
Thank you for your fast reply.
I did (untick) that option in the ActiveSync.
And also did reset to the device by holding the Power + Ok (under the flywheel) with Stylus reset.
After that I downloaded "Hard SPL V7" and tried to update.
First of all, in the "Hard SPL V7" there was only the last option active, and there was down a checkbox also active, but when choosing the last option, checkbox bocomes like everything else disabled.
However, I got the erro 286
I felt like the Device disconnected from USB and reconnected again (Windows gave me the sound when you remove some USB device and you re-connect it again) :-|
I don't know what to do with this dead device now !
Thank you very very much for your time and help
Don't quote me on this as I suspect you need Hard SPL V7 but, as yo've tried things out and you're about to quit anyway, Try using the sd card to update the Stock rom, the rom that came on your Hermes, or updated version. It might let you do it if the CID matches.
I don't believe SPL 1.40 allowed you to flash ANY rom but it may let you re-install the stock rom BUT it must be the original carrier software it came with. If you had Telstra rom on it when you got it, it must be a telstra rom you flash. Make sure its for the right country too as some carriers are all over the world.
Cheers...
Hello ultramag69,
Thanks alot for your reply.
Having my i-mate dead, is really interesting.
I am trying to recover it up, Mine came with (HTC) logo when booting, and I did flushed it with Dopod.
But recently, the network stopped, and I asked some experts, they said it need new OS (They ment to re-flush the ROM).
I tried with the same Dopod that was successful before, and its now stucked on 11%.
I even downloaded the Telstra but the same, it stucked on 13%.
This is my entire story, and still I am trying to get it up.
Thanks alot for your helping. nice of you.
And for all who read my post, if they had such experience before, please help.
Hello ultramag69,
Thanks alot for your reply.
Having my i-mate dead, is really interesting.
I am trying to recover it up, Mine came with (HTC) logo when booting, and I did flushed it with Dopod.
But recently, the network stopped, and I asked some experts, they said it need new OS (They ment to re-flush the ROM).
I tried with the same Dopod that was successful before, and its now stucked on 11%.
I even downloaded the Telstra but the same, it stucked on 13%.
This is my entire story, and still I am trying to get it up.
Thanks alot for your helping. nice of you.
And for all who read my post, if they had such experience before, please help.
If you can, try to find the original SHIPPED STOCK ROM. It may be your Hermes won't be recoverable as the flash stopped in the radio rom part. Most people use a cooked rom as this has the radio rom part out.
I personally use the sd card method to flash my roms so there are no sync errors or accidents with my PC. But you need Hard SPL V7 installed to get that to work with any but the shipped rom.
DON'T try flashing anything but the shipped rom or you will loose all chances of recovering your Hermes.
The only other suggestion would be to flash the SHIPPED RADIO ROM, but you need to know what radio it was before you flashed it with the dopod rom.
Unfortunately the radio rom is the Achilles heel of our phone series. Any problems during flashing of that means we pretty much end up with a brick 99% of the time. Most people are stuck and the rest seem to have limited success reflashing the radio. AVERY small percentage get it working with no trouble, but its a REALLY small amount of people.
Good luck, Make sure you flash with the SHIPPED STOCK ROM to improve your chances of success.
Cheers...
Ultramag69, Thanks alot for your consideration.
Flusching using SD card didn't success with SPL V7.
I formatted my MicroSD card, 2GB with Fat32 FS.
After that I copied the file that came with the zip archive (RUU_signed.nbh) and renamed as required: (herming.nbh).
And I put it in my i-mate, and holded the (Power + OK under flyweel) then restarted using the stylus, It showed me the tri-color screen, then it shows (Loading...) with Gray background screen (Which is normally the flusching screen) but it returned to the tri-color screen.
Any suggestions to get this SPL V7 installed successfully ?
I tried with all my (.nbh) files that I have downloaded from all sources, but its the same screen.
I think something is really wrong with me i-mate, should I take it to some Hard-ware service center ? and what can be damaged and need to be replaced in such cases ?
I am very excited in getting it working again.
Thanks alot.
Cheers...
I had bricked my Hermes a couple o' times, because of a rom I cooked half-way ( LOL ). Each time I had to flash back to the stock rom as suggested. Don't lose hope, cuz there's some people who will tell you just to accept it as bricked. You could also take the sucker apart and use jtags to flash. Most types of bricks can be solved when it comes to the Hermes. There's a thread somewhere that polled the different types of bricks, and except for radio bricks, most can be solved. If you unbrick it try 6.5 .... !!! My rom is cooked all the way now
Arwany, did you run the SSPL.exe file in the sd card instructions for Hard SPL found on page 116, post 1160 of the Hard SPL thread? You need a version of Soft SPL (SSPL) to flash using the sd card as the CID must be bypassed. The reason we Hard SPL our Hermes is because its safer. Its worthwhile flashing the SPL using unsafe SSPL (even if you use the pc you have Soft SPL installed) as its a short flash, flashing a rom (especially stock roms with the radio rom inside) is a riskier and longer flash.
Cheers...
I had the same problem.. All you have to do is establish a connection with Actisync, then run the Updater. There will be 3 colors on your Screen, sont worry, just wait 10-15 min and your should be done with the setup.
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Arwany said:
Ultramag69, Thanks alot for your consideration.
Flusching using SD card........ with the zip archive (RUU_signed.nbh) and renamed as required: (herming.nbh).
And I put it in my i-mate..........
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Hi,Just to tell You that I've noticed a little spelling mistake.You've written "herming.nbh" But it should be "Hermimg.nbh".
Not the 1st person to make that mistake, and probably won't be the last.....
Hi All,
Yeah, that worked out for me, I could successfully flush my JasJam with that.
Thanks for your reply.
I am still facing problem when trying to flush with other OS, its always stuck on the GSM line.
I am using the SD flush method.
Any suggestions ?
THank s alot for your help!
If you have the no GSM problem the only way to, maybe, fix is to flash the original SHIPPED STOCK ROM, or the original radio rom. Flashing anything else may result in a permanent brick...
If it doesn't succeed then, sorry, its not repairable. Can be used as a PDA but not as a phone ever again.
Cheers...
Thansks Ultramag69, for all the helps, It solved my main problem.
You also Ekonkar, your comments was so helpful.
I will try to do some hardware repairing in some Mobile shop, they may get it up again !
To fix it will cost more than to get a new device... They'll tell you they can't fix it or it needs a new mainboard. Will still cost you for this nugget of info. My advice, buy a Hermes off ebay, either working or not. If its not, make sure its screen related problem cos you have the parts to fix... Unless your screen has gone bung too...
Cheers...
I gave it to the repairing guy, he replaced the GSM item and its up and running now for only 20$.
Prost :-D
Sweet, You should post where and what country so others in the same situation might be able to get their Hermes up & running.
So here i am with situation : i can put just about any rom to my tytn, but the problem is the radio. I have tried god knows how many different radio updates, none of em work. And "work" as in when i start the updater, the percentage stays at 0% and after a minute or two it just says error code 260. Im using my _xp_ laptop to update it, with usb-cable. No, i dont have micro-sd card cause im totally broke :<
So i got this tytn from my friend, for free, it originally contained black satin and yes everything worked. But then i installed hmm, yes, CRCs newest and thats the point it went kaput, the radio i mean.
The information that the magical tricolor gives me is:
HERM200
IPL-1.01
HERM200
SPL-1.40.Olipro
So any advice, im puzzled, searched the forums x^y times.
halp! :<
You don't have Hard SPL V7 installed - SPL = 2.10 oli. I'd install that 1st.
Look, $10 for a 2Gb sd card, surely you can afford that?
Don't get bigger than 2Gb if you want to use the sd card method as bootloader won't recognise it. I use a 256Mb for flashing and an 8Gb for normal use. More than enough...
Go to the Hard SPL thread to find out how to install Hard SPL using the sd card method - page 116, post 1160. Afterwards you can use this method to flash roms, just drop the steps using SSPL.exe (Soft SPL). I wouldn't chance flashing a radio rom using the pc, too many things could go wrong... Once the memory is corrupted, you have a lovely PDA, but no more phone...
Also, try to flash the original radio rom on, it may work, DON'T try flashing other things as you may permanently brick your Hermes...
Cheers...
yeah looks like im going to have to submit to buying that micro-sd after all, ill get it, do some things and report back
thanks for advice
now back to the drawing board ^^->
new developments :
installed hard-spl 7
bought micro-sd card, formatted it to fat32
attempted, or, attemping, as i write, to put in a new radio rom as instructed in page 116 post #1160
the progress bar gets stuck to ~10% and never goes forward
what course of action to take next?
yup, waited ~50 minutes, still stuck at 10% :<
Try the SHIPPED STOCK radio ROM... If you can remember what it is...
People have had success flashing the native raio rom when none other will work. It seems it hasn't got to the "magic" 12% mark where its impossible to recover so you MAY be able to flash, no guarantees as these little buggers can be obstinate and cantankerous...
now am i blind but, where to get this magigal stock radio rom ?
pikkuhukka said:
now am i blind but, where to get this magigal stock radio rom ?
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The operator ROMs typically include radio too. You could look for them.
I have a bricked Hermes. Have tried all the things that you have, and some - no luck in getting the radio to work. The PDA part works beautifully. And the battery lasts almost forever...
kernelguy
I live in finland so um, i have no idea what _is_ the original rom, ohwell :<
brick is a brick
btw got a perfectly working tytn ii so no worries ^^ not gonna flash it in _any_ way x)