MR1 to DCD: Noob edition request - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

So I've had my xv6800 for a couple of days now, Verizon sent it to me when my samsung i760 **** the bed. I immediately flashed the 6.1 update, mainly because I love threaded sms. After browsing the forums though, I would lke to take the plunge to a custom rom. I would like to make sure this goes smoothly, and this is the information that I have gathered so far:
I need to do 4 things:
*Flash neuSPL 2.47 - This seems simple enough. Throw it on the SD card, and run it.
*Flash the Rom - I'm doing DCD 3.2.6 Since it's an exe file, I'm guessing I will run it while connected to the PC.
*Install the found in the rom thread
*Flash the radio - This is a weird file extension. Do I run it from the phone or while connected to the PC?
I've been trying to search but it seems like I'm going in circles constantly being directed to threads I've already read, but not finding the information I'm looking for. Am I going in the right order? Is the a "Rom flashing for noobs" thread that I can't find?

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Verizon LOCKS down the gps on MR1. If you want to be able to use it on custom ROMs, you have to flash a Verzion ROM from before the MR1 update and then flash to the dcd ROM. Other than that, the steps you listed were pretty much correct. Good luck and welcome to the dark side .

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Flashing for a Newbie

Hey there, I've been anxious to flash my xv6800. I've been reading and searching extensively in the forums and FAQs and the Wiki (I don't usually post until my frustration is out of control). I've found some useful info here:
How-to for Wizard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
but didn't see the G3/G4 designation on my splash screen (dead end)
How do I go about flashing to a DCD rom (or any custom rom for that matter)? Is there software I need to install on my comp and are there any steps specific to the xv6800 verizon firmware?
I would really appreciate any help. Thanks
I'm in a similar situation to you. I found this helpful guide the wiki here and it got me started. I also posted a similar plea on the DCD's Titan Rom thread so see if a response turns up there. Good luck and PM me if you find anything helpful. The title of your thread makes it a good place to post for the likes of us.
edit: I bet if this was made a sticky and some informed people posted some helpful info, us noobs would stay out of other threads asking for answers. (sound of kitten stuck in tree)
i need help too
well i got impatient and just downloaded dcd 1.6.10 and just clicked on the .exe without doing anything else. its currently doing its thing, hope it works!
You so crazy! I hope that works, but I have my doubts. The version you're referring to, 1.6.10, is for DCD's Titan kitchen. AFAIK, the kitchen's for cooking your own rom. Cooking is different from flashing as far as I can tell. I think you'll now find that you're ready to make your own rom on your PC, but that still leaves us unsure of how to prepare for and execute the actual rom replacement on the Titan. Right, wrong, Bueller?
it didnt work. it was stuck at 0% forever and then gave an error. i took the battery out and back in and am back to how i was before. no brick
i think i need some sort of bootloader. "re-locker" ? i cant find this when searching.
i thought dcd 1.6.10 is a rom for everyone, and kitchen is for those who want to make their own roms? im so confused.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9927
excellent. Thanks!
fusQer said:
it didnt work. it was stuck at 0% forever and then gave an error. i took the battery out and back in and am back to how i was before. no brick
i think i need some sort of bootloader. "re-locker" ? i cant find this when searching.
i thought dcd 1.6.10 is a rom for everyone, and kitchen is for those who want to make their own roms? im so confused.
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I tried to load dcd's and the official rom and the same thing happens to me, stuck at 0% then connection error.
Been trying to get some info from ppcgeeks.com but the forum has been down since yesterday.
What are we doing wrong?
Throw you a bone
OK, you guys sound real clueless (actually only a little more clueless than me!) so I'll help out. The ROM by itself is all ready to flash to your phone, like reinstalling a new operating system on your PC. The kitchen can be used to customize your own ROM, but I'd suggest you guys read up a bit more before going here. The garden variety ROMs that DCD and others provide is fine for now.
There are utilities on this forum to get you out of the bootloader screen if you get stuck (heppened to me last night). Search around a bit, and certainly read up a bit before flashing. These things are real complicated, but it takes a bit of understanding because the steps MUST be done in the right order, and many impatient folks dive in and get screwed, then complaign to the folks who gave them the files to begin with!
jorge_culv
Maybe ur misunderstanding what's happening.
Whenever I try to flash the device Windows Mobile Device Center closes both the screen on my Mogul and the window on the host pc never moves from 0%
Hope that helps
OK - I'm new to this also but have a question. I know data is lost so does that mean I need to re-establish all my email accounts and contact lists? I installed the cab to allow you-tube and bluetooth data to my tomtom. Also the Touch commander. Is all that gone and I have to redo that as well? Is there a suggested utility to back up as much as possible to restore? I sync with my company email via exchage. Right now everything is basically working fine so hate to take a chance.
Regards... Steve

DCD's 3.0.0 INSTALL GUIDE!!

If your having trouble installing the radio(I was). DCD hinted that you should try installing the Sprint rom first-The official one-http://www.america.htc.com/mogulupdate/)
Then after that is done installing go ahead and flash his 3.0.0 rom.
Everything should work great. Also if you were wondering you DO NOT need to relock ur device. Use oli pro's bootloader and enter bootloader mode by pressing camera power and the soft reset button. Do this for both the HTC rom and dcd's.
Any questions feel free to reply back, hope my info helped!!
now when u say flash his 3.0.0 rom...do we just open BuildNB.bat ? in the kitchen rar file? cuz i've never seen a rom that had all those folders and files, usually i just get a single .nbh file or .exe
I don't really see much of an install guide here, so I'll go ahead and post how I did it.
I'm running dcd's 3.0.0 and it's working great. PLEASE BE AWARE: At this point, there is only a kitchen, not a released rom. You will need to "cook" your own Rom. Instructions below.
Steps I took: (Coming from a previous Stock ROM)
1) Backup using PPCPimBackup (optional)
2) Hard Reset (optional)
3) Install the new Sprint 3.35 Rom/Radio
4) Install SPL-olipro 2.40 Bootloader
5) Download/extract dcd's 3.0.0 kitchen
6) Download/install Visual C++ 2008 Runtime
7) In the kitchen, run 'BuildNB.bat'
8) Follow the instructions, pick packages/carrier, and let it do it's thing
9) Let the RUU install this new Rom.
10) Install apps and restore backup
I hope that's helpful to those trying this for the first time.
Files:
PPCPimBackup: http://www.dotfred.net/PIM/PPCPimBackupV2.8_wm2005.zip
Sprint Rom: http://www.geek-pages.com/rom/RUU_TI...CS_AM_Ship.exe
SPL-olipro 2.40 Bootloader: http://www.fileshex.com/download.php...ac6cf068e6f818
Visual C++ 2008 Runtime: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
DCD's 3.0.0 Kitchen: (Check Page 1 for update) http://www.fileshex.com/download.php...c7259f975bf5f0
Again, Thanks to DCD, no2chem, and the community for making this happen.
when my rom is being built i keep getting an error saying "error building default.hv and user.hv!
every single time i keep trying i get this error any idea?
start over fresh...extract rar to c:/rom or c:/temp try not to use any directories with spaces, that helped me
t0mmyr said:
start over fresh...extract rar to c:/rom or c:/temp try not to use any directories with spaces, that helped me
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yep that seemed to do it, not sure why but gotter going now
mine gets stuck at the splash screen!!! help???
niec help from kd5ftn
so, the first post says put it in bootloader mode, but the "more complete" instructions don't mention bootlader mode. Does it matter?
Also, would it be better if I used an XP machine? I have Vista Home Premium, but I have access to an XP machine if there will be less problems.
Yeah, I'm not sure why he's manually entering the bootloader. Once the Rom Update Utility ran for each process, It pretty much did it it all for me.
I'm unfotunately not experienced enough cooking kitchen's to know more. I kind of like to get things setup and leave them alone. So far, everything with my phone feels quicker and more polished.
Dot Net
kd5ftn said:
Files:
PPCPimBackup: http://www.dotfred.net/PIM/PPCPimBackupV2.8_wm2005.zip
Sprint Rom: http://www.geek-pages.com/rom/RUU_TI...CS_AM_Ship.exe
SPL-olipro 2.40 Bootloader: http://www.fileshex.com/download.php...ac6cf068e6f818
Visual C++ 2008 Runtime: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
DCD's 3.0.0 Kitchen: (Check Page 1 for update) http://www.fileshex.com/download.php...c7259f975bf5f0
Again, Thanks to DCD, no2chem, and the community for making this happen.
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FYI you'll need .Net framework 2 or higher for this to run, i tried it from work but it wouldn't run since we only have 1.1 and i don't want to mess with my work machine for something like this.
Also don't run it from a thumb drive... it takes a LONG time before it does ANYTHING.
does this work for the xv6800? flashing the sprint rom on my verizon phone troubles me.
tharris297 said:
does this work for the xv6800? flashing the sprint rom on my verizon phone troubles me.
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I'd like to know also...
Me as well. I would also like to know the small details...like:
What values I need to record and how to get them
Where to get my A-Key (It is not listed where everybody says it should be),
Should I shut off the radio before beginning,
Will a hard reset improve my chances of this working,
If I sync my contacts and calender before I begin, will it restore back after?
I wrote Verizon asking about there timetable for this upgrade, but if they do not get back to me soon I may take the plunge and start flashing myself. The Kitchen seems easy to use, and there is an update in the Radio thread on how to get it to work.
tharris297 said:
does this work for the xv6800? flashing the sprint rom on my verizon phone troubles me.
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Starting from 2.3.2 and using post #3. I did steps 3, stopping the initialization after the HTC mobility screen came up. Skipped step 4 (already on the Phone), and did 5 through 9. Allowed phone to boot up after installing 3.0.0 with Verizon selected in the Kitchen. Previous installations I had Akey and data connection issues each time with Verizon, this time very smooth, just did a *228 option 1 for insurance. Had to reload my [email protected] in the data connection entry. Relatively painless.
Dialer in DCD's ROMS
Hey guys where can i find the dialer in cab format or whatever format that DCD uses in his ROM?

Why is titan flashing so complicated?

I am upgrading to a 6800 tomorrow if all goes well. I have a 6700 right now and know about flashing, but my question is why is the titans process so much more complicated? On the 6700 I could just make the rom in the kitchen and go flashing away. The 6800 needs epst, specific bootloader upgrades and then specific radio files for a rom?
Am I missing something here? Is it just because of the gps?
nothing's complicated in that
ok first STOP saying that it's so easy to brick a 6800. The ROM and Kitchen that where build at beginning by DCD or any other where making phone possibly to brick.
Now the ROM, Kitchen, etc are made by Peoples who know what they do like or friend DCD. everything is so well explain on WIKI. I think after making so many test to brick my phones that if you BRICK your phone with a DCD ROM and others its because of a really really bad computer. Or you're try to brick it. I've try to flash ROM from other phone(no success-phone working), ....
the first time i've flash a ROM i was so afraid in that because Bricking a 600$ phone is making somebody mad. but i've discovered the case on my Mogul, my Vogue or my S720 that with Telus you just have to flash the Radio and the DCD ROM and soft reset and its done everything work SO EASY.
At now the way they builds there ROM or KITCHEN are so secure that its almost impossible to brick a phone.
TELUS
HTC Mogul
ROMCD 3.3.4
RADIO: 3.42.30 better time finding gps
HTC Vogue
ROM:Manilla Crystal based on a DCD VOGUE RoM
RADIO:3.41.00
HTC LIBRA (`GHOST PHONE`)
ROM:new telus wm 6.1 stock rom with some modif on .....
RADIO:.............. at now just getting a free way to acces cell tower for internet access IS WORKING, next step getting a way to access to make and receive calls.
Caferacer said:
I am upgrading to a 6800 tomorrow if all goes well. I have a 6700 right now and know about flashing, but my question is why is the titans process so much more complicated? On the 6700 I could just make the rom in the kitchen and go flashing away. The 6800 needs epst, specific bootloader upgrades and then specific radio files for a rom?
Am I missing something here? Is it just because of the gps?
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I would imagine the biggest difference is that the 6800 has had many major software and firmware updates over it's lifecycle, and because when you make a massive change to the firmware (i.e. going from a 1.x or 2.x radio to a 3.x radio), enough gets overwritten that it's important to backup your settings, etc. Since 1.x and 2.x didn't have full GPS implemented, yes, GPS was a main reason for having to do the extra work. They also weren't written to support 6.1, so a new radio was required for that as well.
However, once this initial flash is done, all future flashes are very easy.
The SPL is required because HTC didn't want the phone to be easily flashable.
And it checked for signed image files. Signing an image without the private key is difficult so they cracked the bootloader to not require a signed image. This was a requirement to be able to flash a custom rom/radio.
BTC
It's my understanding that you could only brick your phone by installing a non-working bootloader. All other problems can be resolved.
Although I don't understand why the latest bootloader is non-working unless you've updated your radio. I don't think it's that complicated, but there aren't any clear and complete written instructions anywhere.
If flashing were easy, everyone would do it.
And then Verizon/Sprint, etc would have hundreds of thousands (vs probably just dozens) of customers calling or going to stores needing help fixing their screw ups.
That would make giving everyone else decent service an impossibility.
I'm all for the carriers making it difficult to flash phones.
guig54 said:
ok first STOP saying that it's so easy to brick a 6800. The ROM and Kitchen that where build at beginning by DCD or any other where making phone possibly to brick.
He didn't say anything about bricking it. He just asked the reason for it being so difficult. No need for the hostility. We're all here to learn and help.
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guig54 said:
ok first STOP saying that it's so easy to brick a 6800. The ROM and Kitchen that where build at beginning by DCD or any other where making phone possibly to brick.
Now the ROM, Kitchen, etc are made by Peoples who know what they do like or friend DCD. everything is so well explain on WIKI. I think after making so many test to brick my phones that if you BRICK your phone with a DCD ROM and others its because of a really really bad computer. Or you're try to brick it. I've try to flash ROM from other phone(no success-phone working), ....
the first time i've flash a ROM i was so afraid in that because Bricking a 600$ phone is making somebody mad. but i've discovered the case on my Mogul, my Vogue or my S720 that with Telus you just have to flash the Radio and the DCD ROM and soft reset and its done everything work SO EASY.
At now the way they builds there ROM or KITCHEN are so secure that its almost impossible to brick a phone.
TELUS
HTC Mogul
ROMCD 3.3.4
RADIO: 3.42.30 better time finding gps
HTC Vogue
ROM:Manilla Crystal based on a DCD VOGUE RoM
RADIO:3.41.00
HTC LIBRA (`GHOST PHONE`)
ROM:new telus wm 6.1 stock rom with some modif on .....
RADIO:.............. at now just getting a free way to acces cell tower for internet access IS WORKING, next step getting a way to access to make and receive calls.
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I never said it was easy to brick. I know from reading the wiki that a lot of things are recoverable, however compared to my 6700 it is more complicated.
I simply asked because, knowing myself, I like to research and know things beforehand. It cuts down on the 'oh sh*t' moments. Thats the reason I got a 6700 2 years ago, and the reason I upgraded to a 6800.
Thanks for the replies everyone.
Caferacer said:
The 6800 needs epst, specific bootloader upgrades and then specific radio files for a rom?
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Stop right there -- just as the 6700 the potential steps involved for flashing are identical.
The differences are your sources for instruction.
It depends if you found a short-cut method that may leave people dangerously stumped in ignorance or a more comprehensive list of steps to cover nearly every contingency and prepare one with a foundation to recover to and options of what and how to flash. Myself and others have evolved the Wiki instructions to help everyone from n00bies to those recovering from flashing errors or incompatible OS/Radios ROM & SPLs. Comprehensive information shouldn't freak you out.
Keystone said:
Stop right there -- just as the 6700 the potential steps involved for flashing are identical.
The differences are your sources for instruction.
It depends if you found a short-cut method that may leave people dangerously stumped in ignorance or a more comprehensive list of steps to cover nearly every contingency and prepare one with a foundation to recover to and options of what and how to flash. Myself and others have evolved the Wiki instructions to help everyone from n00bies to those recovering from flashing errors or incompatible OS/Radios ROM & SPLs. Comprehensive information shouldn't freak you out.
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I was reading the comprehensive wiki.
I didn't freak me out, just made me curious. I will be flashing either way
Well, flashed my 6800. Used latest DCD and the 50 radio that is compatible.
Can't see satillites in google maps, and I need to call tech support tomorrow because my phone apparently can't be authenticated. Everything I can see in EPST looks fine, and over air programming didn't work.
BUT, I can still call out. So it's a software issue that can be fixed. No brickage!
Otherwise it was painless. Very snappy now, although considering I upgraded from a 6700 just about anything would be eh?
Caferacer said:
Well, flashed my 6800. Used latest DCD and the 50 radio that is compatible.
Can't see satillites in google maps, and I need to call tech support tomorrow because my phone apparently can't be authenticated. Everything I can see in EPST looks fine, and over air programming didn't work.
BUT, I can still call out. So it's a software issue that can be fixed. No brickage!
Otherwise it was painless. Very snappy now, although considering I upgraded from a 6700 just about anything would be eh?
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Use GPS Viewer to get a lock before using google maps.

First Time ROMer Questions

Wiki said:
# Always keep a record of your phone's ESN, MSID, Security, EPST, and M. IP settings in case a flash reprograms your phone.
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I got my phone yesterday around 4 pm. Short of doing some homework I have been researching how to get the most out of it all night. I attempted to use QPST but that led to my phone being unable to sync at all with my computer. I would like to do this manually if at all possible. The problem is that I do not have a "Security or EPST" option under view. Where would I find those exactly?
I also have some questions about DCD 3.3.4 ROM:
Will ActiveSync still work?
Will I be able to install all of the freeware apps and have them run properly as if from stock?
I have a US Cellular phone; once I flash it will be impossible to go back to stock, correct?
What would be the necessary steps to get the 2.47 bootloader if all I have is USB and an 8gig microSD card?
My bootloader version currently installed is listed as 1.07.0000, the wiki does not mention this version; will it be a problem?
I also want to double check my steps, considering the above is true (about not returning to stock) I want to make damn sure I do this right the first time:
EPST settings copy
Install bootloader 2.40 via USB
Run ROM Update Utility with 3.42.50 in RUU folder via USB
Go to loader screen via PWR-CMRA-RST
Run DCD 3.3.4 via USB
Any help or advice (or both) is greatly appreciated. Thanks to anyone that helps in advance.
besides dcd 3.3.4 I woudl also check out Skips ROM
Aloha, DCD 3.3.4 is awsome I was using that for a long while until Skip came out with V 1.1 I am currently running Skip's WM6.1 build 20954 v1.1 Lite and Kitchen http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468707 I think you would probably like this ROM very fast, lite and lean. It has a update downloader in it that allows you to add in things like Office and OneNote. The other thing it seems to have and Skip would have to correct me if I am wrong but in the Kitchen as options Unloack and hard spl phone, flash radio 3.42.50, cooking the ROM is very easy in that kitchen just follow the instruction. He has also created a very easy to use CAB to OEM packager.
Also make sure you read through the wiki if this your first time burning a rom to a phone. The help there is very well done.
So far I really like the speed of this ROM it has no problem running the new IOLITE version of M2D.
You need a 2gb or smaller card, even if you just buy it, flash it, and then toss it, you need the 2gb or less for HardSPL2.47 to load, and also to flash the radio you should use SD card as well.
Once these 2 steps are done, you don't need the smaller card and can switch to the 8gb card.
There is no going back once you flash HardSPL2.47, there is no stock rom, so once you do that first step you must finish or your phone will no longer be functional.
You definitely want to get QPST working first so that you can read the phone's programming, otherwise your phone will never work correctly, it can be fixed by hand but is a real pain in the butt.
BTC
So I should definitely pick up a 2gig or smaller just to get this installed? Could I pull it off with like a 512meg card or do I need something a little bigger?

[Q] ROM Starting with "1.43 - T-Mobile UK"

Hi,
I have searched for soemone that has had the same ROM as me and to no avail. In order to install a new ROM I need to use the right 'extraction kit'. It seems none of them are for the ROM starting with 1.43? Am I being daft or should I just stop looking and figuring it out now?
I bought a T-Mobile phone, had it unlocked yesterday. It still has all the T-Mobile settings on and I can't put the Vodafone settings on. I have been 'playing this game' for many years now, I have bought the Bepe ROM a bumber of times for different devices; excellant stuff. I want to do the same again.
Please could someone point me in the right direction please - For Clarification:
"Which HSPL Package should I use?"
Or if there is none - "How to change the settings on a phone that does not let you?"
Thank-you in advance,
Will
Has no-one ever had this ROM? I cannot possibly be the only one?! Don't answer this - But do you think I will brick my phone by using a 1.42 ROM HSPL Package de-rommer?
Will
For HD2, if I remember correctly, there is no ROM dump solution.
Check here if you find your stock ROM (thought I had seen it there) to have it as a fallback solution.
To install any other ROM than the T-Mob stock ROM on your HD2, just use HSPL4.exe to install HSPL 2.08 on your phone, and flash via USB or SD card.
You can actually find all you need in the stickies.
Thanks you confirmed what I thought. I have found the Stock ROM. I've tried the HPSL4, no joy!
Thank-you,
Will
Did you try HSPL2.exe? This should definitely work if there should be issues with HSPL4.exe.
your a genius - thank-you....
Will
SOLVED
To anyone reading this;
What I have learnt is as follows:
- It seems that you run a HSPL PKG whether it is 1,2,3,4, or 5, and you will not brick your phone - ( I am not guaranteeing this - but going on my own experience).
- I was advised by experts that had gone through the process, the wrong HSPLs. This is NOT their fault, but it appears your phone is very unique.
- All you need to do is trial and error.
- You will be asked when running the HSPL which ROM version you are installing - make sure you have read the thread of the ROM you are installing very well. (Even have it open to run through it when run HSPL.
- Once you have 'cracked' your Stock ROM, then it seems that you can then run the correct HSPL PKG for the particular ROM you want.......
I hope this helps and you have learnt from my research.....
Take Care,
Will

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