Ok, so just to tell you, I've searched and searched, but I do not get answers. This is my last resource.
K, I just got a Kaiser from atnt and I am going to use my old Cingular 8525 just for fun.
It still runs WM 5 so I want to upgrade it. It has a 2gig storage card and lots of apps on both mems.
So I got a few questions.
1) I've heard you can install other phone company's SIM cards, but you need to unlock the SIM first. Should I use a SIM unlocker? What does it do? Will it brick my phone? And what is a CID unlocker?
2) What is SPL? Hard SPL?
3) What is Radio?
4) What is the protocol version?
I want to upgrade to WM6, but are there any good roms?
5) How do I put all my other programs on to my phone after it is upgraded?
6) Id just like to know how to upgrade my Cingular 8525 to the best software there is.
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So I read the Wiki and now, I just wanna flash to WM6.1 TOUCH Build20924 V27 from Dvha79_ddt
So what should I do?
Please tell if this is right.
Back up my SD card.
I will unlock SIM and CID. Click the .bat right?
I am going to install HardSPL f. Clk the .exe right?
I will download the BlackFull Bigstorage and just click the exe. Site: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412895
I will copy my backed up SD card onto my SD card.
Create the shortcuts and I am ready to go?
The Rom flashing will auto delete everything on my ppc right?
Thanks
1. yes, no, allows other carrier roms to be installed.
2. See cid unlocker. Install Hard SPL v7 after unlocking your sim.
3. Allows you to make and recive phone calls/mms/sms.
4. Do a search. Yes a heap, look in WM06 section, also wm6.1.
5. Install cabs.
6. Read this...
http://www.mrvanx.org/guide/hermes/upgrades/hardspl
http://www.mrvanx.org/guide/hermes/upgrades/rom
http://www.mrvanx.org/guide/hermes/upgrades/radio
All this was found with a simple search. I used the words Hermes upgrade instructions. Would be a good idea to learn how to use this to stop being flamed by people getting bombarded by these questions...
I still don't understand what Hard Spl does...
Gives you a chance to recover your phone if something goes wrong with the flash...
There is no 100% guarantee but at least you won't be on the forums crying for help because your Hermes is bricked and you can't fix it saying you haven't got Hard SPL installed...
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hi all,
i've just bought a t-mobile vario 2
i;ve read the wiki & a few of the posts regarding upgrading
but to be honest it has so much information & sometimes the information is contradictory.. so it gets confusing
i've been using the uni for a year now
my point is
i want 2 upgrade my hermes 2 wm6
my boot screen says
herm300
IPL-1.01
SPL 1.40.Olipro
i can use a different/other sim card than t-mobile
how do i chek if my hermes is CID unlocked
and what radio i'm using & what's my bootloader number??
i try 2 read the splash screen after soft reset but the radio version goes away pretty fast
do i run POF's unlocker v3a? is it safe to run again, even if my phone is cid unlocked?
in order 2 upgrade 2 wm6
do i need to install olipros hard spl 2.10? and then run customruu?
this is what i mean by confusing?
i've upgraded my magician, uni & wizard
however they all had pretty easy/self explanatory directions?
i'm sorry for sounding like a noob, but its new territory....
thanx in advance
Is there a specific reason you want to CID the device? T-Mobile's data plan s pretty great so I have never seen the need to use another sim in my vario. You dont need to CID unlock to upgrade the rom.
As long as you have installed Olipro's spl to protect against bricking your phone it should be fairly safe to install a wm6 rom. If not, definitely install the current version of hard spl.
Once you have installed SPL, you then run the RUU.exe file that usually comes with the rom. Tha majority will have a tick box on the first page that says auto detect, which will check which version of spl you have installed and then run itself accordingly. It is best to have the current hardspl installed though.
Most of them dont touch your extended rom and only replace the OS rom contents. T-Mob's wm5 extended rom customizations wont work with wm6 anyway so you will need to go looking here for a cab file called (I Believe) tmobileukfixed.cab.
You will also need to look for newer versions of your pocket pc software as some older ones dont play nice with WM6.
Good luck, and if in doubt, read MrVanx's upgrade guide here: http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
chrisjasper said:
Is there a specific reason you want to CID the device? T-Mobile's data plan s pretty great so I have never seen the need to use another sim in my vario. You dont need to CID unlock to upgrade the rom.
As long as you have installed Olipro's spl to protect against bricking your phone it should be fairly safe to install a wm6 rom. If not, definitely install the current version of hard spl.
Once you have installed SPL, you then run the RUU.exe file that usually comes with the rom. Tha majority will have a tick box on the first page that says auto detect, which will check which version of spl you have installed and then run itself accordingly. It is best to have the current hardspl installed though.
Most of them dont touch your extended rom and only replace the OS rom contents. T-Mob's wm5 extended rom customizations wont work with wm6 anyway so you will need to go looking here for a cab file called (I Believe) tmobileukfixed.cab.
You will also need to look for newer versions of your pocket pc software as some older ones dont play nice with WM6.
Good luck, and if in doubt, read MrVanx's upgrade guide here: http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
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i dont live in the uK
so the tmobile plan is not the usp
i need to unlock the extende rom as i like 2 install most of my progs on the extended rom and also my ringtones as the sd card takes a cople of seconds b4 it kicks in..
check the wiki under Bootloader information.
Using mtty, there is a command to check CID status.
todd_jg said:
check the wiki under Bootloader information.
Using mtty, there is a command to check CID status.
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hi
i've managed 2 find out that my phones supercid
however i cant get mtty 2 work
i put the phone in bootloader
then i conect the phone via usb
when i rum mtty
it says usb port cannot open
i tried mtty 1.42 as well.....
The seller said it is unlocked. How can I verify it?
I read CID Unlocking and Sim Unlocking. How can I confirm both.
Also, how can I tell which version of the radio?
and which version of SPL (3.5 or 1.2)?
Or is there any great tutorial I can setup for the AP4?
I am starting to get confused.
the seller probably was not lying as it is easy to do (thanks to olipro - cmonex/olinex) but if you want to check, press and hold your camera button, whilst doing that press the reset button, and tell us the details on the rainbow screen.
this will also tell you if it is SPL 1.1-1.2 or 3.5
when your done just press reset again
LOCKing is related to SPL. SPL is a part of the "bios" (just to use the PC paradign IPL and SPL are "extended bios" ), then you have the RADIO section of the rom and the OS (WMxx)
Other part of the rom are the EXTENDED ROM (where the file needed for operator customizzation during first install are stored) and splash screens (a FULL ROM means IPL,SPL, SPLASH 1, SPLASH 2, RADIO, OS, EXTENDED ROM).
This "bios" , called SPL can receive commands from RUU (Rom Update Utility, the sw used to flash the rom file). ROM info are "wrapped" in a .nbf file and the RUU, interacting with SPL with some batch commands, flash into the device memory the ROM parts (Splash are flashed in their locations, os, radio, ....) RUU opens the .nbf file, read abatch command file, and send the commands to the SPL to flash the rom sections
Now you can understand how a custom ROM is done: using a "kicken" you can prepare a .nbf file containing the data and the batch command file used by RUU to flash it in the right location of your ROM (SPL, RADIO, OS, SPLASH, or all together) SPL is a KEY part for this process.
With the stock RUU IPL and SPL some controls are done before flashing, first of all device's language and vendor ID, so called CID. If they doesn't mach with the ROM file you will have an error and RUU exits: wrong language, wrong vendor, ....
Flashing a custom SPL you avoid this check (or it sets the CID to "supercid", it means I accept every language and vendor ID)
The SIM unlock (phone working with all SIM card) needs something more complex. In the ATHENA FORUM whe have ATHENA UNLOCKER, from OLIPRO, for SIM Unlock and CID Unlock and ATHENA WRAPPER, just for CID unlock. They will update the HTC SPL to OLIPRO 1.2
Hi sergiopi,
Your post is so concise. You told us the whole theory it may take me more than a day to find. You have the potential to be a book author. Thanks anyway.
Questions:
1. How can I tell whether the sim is unlocked?
2. How can I tell whether the cid is unlocked? Or it is no harm to run the ATHENA UNLOCKER again?
3. What is the different btw SPL 3.5 and 1.2? Should I update it? I am planning to run the AP4.
Thanks again!
Did you completely miss my previous post, if you follow the simple instructions. I gave you earlier, we will be able to answer all your questions.
ice_coffee said:
Did you completely miss my previous post, if you follow the simple instructions. I gave you earlier, we will be able to answer all your questions.
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To check if your Athena is SIM Unlocked take a SIM from your friend's phone who is in another network and put it in your Athena. If it refuses to accept the SIM then it is locked and you have to unlock it. If it accepts the SIM and lets you place a call, it is SIM unlocked and most probably CID Unlocked. To check if it is CID unlocked just do what ice_coffe says.
I didn't miss the post from ice_coffee. My Athena is still in shipping. I just want to get more info first. Besides testing with a real sim card, is there any method we can run from the machine?
alui said:
Hi sergiopi,
Your post is so concise. You told us the whole theory it may take me more than a day to find. You have the potential to be a book author. Thanks anyway.
Questions:
1. How can I tell whether the sim is unlocked?
2. How can I tell whether the cid is unlocked? Or it is no harm to run the ATHENA UNLOCKER again?
3. What is the different btw SPL 3.5 and 1.2? Should I update it? I am planning to run the AP4.
Thanks again!
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Thanks, the post is for you and for other newbies, to help everyone to understand. This is a DEVELOPER'S forum, we like smart users!
alui said:
Hi sergiopi,
Your post is so concise. You told us the whole theory it may take me more than a day to find. You have the potential to be a book author. Thanks anyway.
Questions:
1. How can I tell whether the sim is unlocked?
2. How can I tell whether the cid is unlocked? Or it is no harm to run the ATHENA UNLOCKER again?
3. What is the different btw SPL 3.5 and 1.2? Should I update it? I am planning to run the AP4.
Thanks again!
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Listen Alui. The question numbr 3 shows of your post shows that you are realy a noobie. So if you are still waiting for your new device, do not waste your time but start reading. If you already decided that you want to go for AP4, then did you realy read the AP4 thread from first post? I am almost sure, you didn't.
So please remember, if you do not know what you are doing then you have a big chance to convert your super device into a brick.
And once more, if you browse this forum, you can see how many threads is there, and how many post is in each thread. If you see this you should be sure that you are not the first person here who just got his new device. All your questions were answered many times here so just read and read and after a week of reading start to plan what to do next.
FIrst off, I've got a at&t 8525 with wm5, and I'm a complete noob to the device and upgrading. I'm pretty good with computers and technology but upgrading this has somewhat got my head spinning. lol. I wish to upgrade to Schap's Wm6 pro v4.31.
The way i understand to upgrade is: upgrade to hardSPL (using the ruu provided with the hardspl download), then run the ruu provided with schap's rom and upgrade.
A few questions: 1) Do I need to upgrade the radio rom? 2) Schap's rom, being a non-at&t authenticated rom do i need to SIM unlock and/or CID unlock the device before upgrading? 3) After finishing upgrade do i need to downgrade to a different spl?
Many Thanks,
Tyler
When you upgrade the SPL, make sure its Hard SPL V7. SPL will be 2.10 oli after you finish (go to bootloader to check).
Once you have Hard SP you can upgrade the ROM using the sd card method.
1. Format sd card FAT32. Copy .nbh file of the om you want on to it. Rename to hermimg.nbh
2 Insert into Hermes and go to bootloader.
3. If the ALL steps have been followed exactly then follow the prompts.
Means the nasty little things like usb disconnections, sync errors or accidental PC resets won't brick your Hermes.
Just make sure the battery is charged and you don't soft reset in the middle of a flash.
No need to sim-unlock as Hard SPl should fix that problem. As long as you use a sim from the sim locked supplier then you don't need to unlock, if you intend use a sim from another carrier then you may need to unlock, best idea would be to see by using a different carrier sim.
If you do use the sim/cid unlocker tool, make sure to re-install Hard SPL V7 as it downgrades the SPL to 1.40 oli. Older, not so safe version of Hard sPL.
Radio ROMs are the riskiest things on the Hermes to flash. If everything is working fine, DON'T CHANGE IT... Not unless you are 110% certain there are advantages. A problem flashing the radio ROM is generally a permanent brick.
However, on those times where you decide to chance it, stock roms and such I strongly recommend using the sd card method. Its safer than the PC method.
Hope thats not too frightening, just want you to be aware of the dangers. As long as you prepare, be methodical and don't rush you should be fine....
Cheers...
Ok, im sorry if this has been posted someplace els but i searched for hours and couldnt find it. im trying to upgrade my 8525 to WM6.5 i have the files, but when ii go run RUU it comes up, i get the first 2 questions, i understand, and ive done the things and then when it goes to connect to the device i get "device cannot be Identified" i have tried a couple different downloads and get the same result every time. Thanks In Advance
Have you SIM-unlocked / superCID'd your device before trying to upgrade the bootloader / the ROM?
If not, that might be your issue. I found the device unlocking software by typing SuperCID into the "search" toolbar.
Hope that helps.
Sim is unlocked, now as for the CID im not really sure (forgive my noobishness im still getting used to Windows Mobile) is there a way to check to see if its been done previously?
OK so CID and SIM are now unlocked. but im still getting the error when i try to run the RUU to update to WM 6.5. It Acts like it wants to go but then error when trying to verify the device. i should mention that active sync says its connected and i can get to all my folders so the device is connected. (ps the RUU worked for the sim/cid unlocker but doesnt work for ther ROM or radio ROM)
1st thing I'd do is install Hard SPL V7 using the sd card method (page 116, post 1160 on the Hard SPL sticky in the upgrading section). It will change your SPL from 1.40 to 2.10 oli. Then you can use the sd card method to flash any Hermes rom/radio rom.
I find it safer to use than the PC as there are no chances of "accidents"...
Cheers...
ultramag69 said:
1st thing I'd do is install Hard SPL V7 using the sd card method (page 116, post 1160 on the Hard SPL sticky in the upgrading section). It will change your SPL from 1.40 to 2.10 oli. Then you can use the sd card method to flash any Hermes rom/radio rom.
I find it safer to use than the PC as there are no chances of "accidents"...
Cheers...
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Sadly my Sd slot is not working quite right, thats one of the things i was hoping the ROM update might help with. But would the Hard SPL V7 possibly help with the issues im having?
HERMES 100 (jasjam) Flashing ROM?
Help, I have downloaded a few different WWE 6 ROM's and I can' get my phone to flash them. I flashed Hard-spl-v7 ok. but i cant get the WWE rom to flash "WM6__Official_MS_ROM_" Phone goes into flash mode and then nothing happens.
Help
FrmPalm2WM, No, flashing any rom most likely won't help with that problem. Use some compressed air to try and clean out any dust in the sd card slot.
You might also try updating your PC's .net framework to 3.5, if you're still using XP. Just put the Hermes into bootloader and run the RUU_Wrapper.exe. It should recognise it. Also make sure that Active sync on the PC has "Allow USB Connections" unchecked.
kitcho, how you trying to flash? PC or sd card....
When you post please put as much info in as possible or we can't help.
Are the roms for the Hermes, anything downloaded from the Hermes forum SHOULD work.
If you're using the sd card method, have you put the .nbh file on an sd card formatted FAT32 and renamed to hermimg.nbh. If one of those things isn't right then it won't work. If you don't have Hard SPL V7 on your Hermes (SPL - 2.10 oli) then it won't work.
Cheers...
ok so still cant get the RUU to work. and since doing the CD unlock iit changed my radio to 1.4 and when turn the phone on it says no GSM. when i try to run RUU from the ROMs ive downloaded from other threads on here i either get cannot connect or an error with the application. my first priority is to get the radio backk up and runnng. im gettng to othe point that i wanna erase everything on it and start over. any suggestions?
ok guys im not a total noob in flashed but id like to be safe than sorry...so anyone can point the way to a step by step on hardspl hermes? lol this is well my forth fone being flashed(2x wizards,kaiser) killed my first wizard flashed G3 rom on a G4 i knw i knw i suck.lets hope that never happens again.anyway any feedback will help thankz.
Go to the sticky about Hard SPL, download Hard SPL V7 from 1st page then go to page 116, post 1160 for sd card method...
Hope this helps...
yeah thankz will check it out
Check out this link, i think it'll also help u out
http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=26
ok thanks guys got my hermes yesterday and downloaded hard spl v7,quick question do i need to install sim and cid unlocker v3a or should i just run the hard spl Ruu and flash it?
1 more lame noob question lol do i have to flash my rom with the sd card method?
Sim and CID unlocker is required just to unlock ur ppc to use on any sim, as the super cid function is already merged in hard spl v7.
Try to use the sd card method, as the risk factor is minimal in this method as compared to active sync method. as there are may cases of broken usb connections here.
hey guys thanks i finally did it!!!! i used activesync method because only getting my sd card later on today,my bootloader is now ipl 1.04 spl 2.04 olipro. heres the steps i followed firstly downloaded hard spl v7,then fully connected to activesync,i ran the RUU but instead of getting the red option like everyone descriped it said "force sspl" anyway i continued and followed the prompts and it worked!! so now i got my herm200 ready to flash a custom rom.thanks to everyone who helped and happy flashing guys....one last question though now after i download a rom of my choice can i just run the RUU and flash it?
sorry posted my new spl wrong. its ipl 1.04 spl 2.10.olipro
Cool, yeah you should be able to though I'd use the sd card method to flash - just drop the steps using SSPL.exe... Its a hell of a lot safer and I wouldn't do it any other way for a radio rom, stuff up a radio rom flash you can pretty much kiss the phone functions goodbye...
Cheers...