hey all, check out this video of mine - full windows vista on my htc touch pro!
really it is just windows mobile remote desktop but there is absolutely zero lag except for when i play games or 1080p videos... simply amazing what tech can do now a days.
click here for the video
let me just say, that this, my friends, is the future of mobile computing.
1) handheld device with a Rx rate that is > 10Mbit/sec
2) desktop computer with a Tx rate that is > 10Mbit/sec
3) software (or even hardware acceleration) that is capable of rendering the complete desktop experience and Tx via internet
although, just a simple HD video stream of the server-side and an ultra fast Tx/Rx of input commands from the client to the server would work just as well and probably be easier to do. remote desktop mobile is great, but it can be so much simpler to provide the robust experience of the desktop computing environment.
why try and shrink everything to fit in such small devices? worry about thermal issues, ie no active cooling in a pda phone? just make it good enough to send and recieve data fast enough that there is no noticable lag (a human can't react to something that fast - check it http://biae.clemson.edu/bpc/bp/Lab/110/reaction.html)... so really, all you need is a connection between the two devices with a ping anywhere between 0ms and 190ms and there will be no noticable difference to the user (visually no lag @ 190ms, audiologists say our reaction time to sound is about 160ms).
i am just floored with this notion. if this doesn't become the standard in the years to come, i will seriously be surprised. the only thing limiting us right now is bandwidth, as my own testing of this has shown that any lag is not even close to noticable (esp since the ping to my comp via EVDO was less than 20ms) on the connections we already have. just a bit more throughput and this technology will be perfect.
the beauty of this type of computing is that the mobile device is not bound by the processor or video card or anything else, save the uplink and downlink speed for the internet (and driving the units display too); and, of course, the program on the "server"/desktop that renders and Tx the data...
anyone else ready for the future?
some might say "oh, well that's too small for me... i'll take my lappy or desktop over that any day..." screens are small now - but what about when flexable LCD/OLED screens become mainstream? you could fold up a device in your pocket and unravel it to a 22" monitor... or how about this, google picoprojector - cabable of displaying 1080p images, decent lumen output (not that bright, but the thing is the size of a zippo lighter), nice contrast ratio, DLP... that could be incorporated into the device - some new business phones in japan already have a pico-dlp projector built in.
i can't tell you how many times ive just wanted to use my gaming rig, work on photoshop, or do some 3D editing but ive been stuck somewhere without my monster rig - or on a long flight but my lappy is no powerhouse (7150m gfx just doesn't cut it)...
and what about that, what if the connection speeds (and also rendering speed of the stream too) was fast enough were i could just throw it on a "dummy" laptop (kinda like the redfly?) that has nothing more than a high-res display, CDMA 4G (which is just as fast as gigabit lan), keyboard, and wifi - this machine would act EXACTLY as your desktop, except you can take it with you anywhere there is a cell phone signal or wifi signal...
man, when 4G hits the USA, things are going to really open up... literally, the flood gates will be pulled back then - can you imagine? gigabit networking over a cell network??!! downloading a full DVD-5 in just under 5 minutes!!?
TheTruth said:
hey all, check out this video of mine - full windows vista on my htc touch pro!
really it is just windows mobile remote desktop but there is absolutely zero lag except for when i play games or 1080p videos... simply amazing what tech can do now a days.
click here for the video
let me just say, that this, my friends, is the future of mobile computing.
1) handheld device with a Rx rate that is > 10Mbit/sec
2) desktop computer with a Tx rate that is > 10Mbit/sec
3) software (or even hardware acceleration) that is capable of rendering the complete desktop experience and Tx via internet
although, just a simple HD video stream of the server-side and an ultra fast Tx/Rx of input commands from the client to the server would work just as well and probably be easier to do. remote desktop mobile is great, but it can be so much simpler to provide the robust experience of the desktop computing environment.
why try and shrink everything to fit in such small devices? worry about thermal issues, ie no active cooling in a pda phone? just make it good enough to send and recieve data fast enough that there is no noticable lag (a human can't react to something that fast - check it http://biae.clemson.edu/bpc/bp/Lab/110/reaction.html)... so really, all you need is a connection between the two devices with a ping anywhere between 0ms and 190ms and there will be no noticable difference to the user (visually no lag @ 190ms, audiologists say our reaction time to sound is about 160ms).
i am just floored with this notion. if this doesn't become the standard in the years to come, i will seriously be surprised. the only thing limiting us right now is bandwidth, as my own testing of this has shown that any lag is not even close to noticable (esp since the ping to my comp via EVDO was less than 20ms) on the connections we already have. just a bit more throughput and this technology will be perfect.
the beauty of this type of computing is that the mobile device is not bound by the processor or video card or anything else, save the uplink and downlink speed for the internet (and driving the units display too); and, of course, the program on the "server"/desktop that renders and Tx the data...
anyone else ready for the future?
some might say "oh, well that's too small for me... i'll take my lappy or desktop over that any day..." screens are small now - but what about when flexable LCD/OLED screens become mainstream? you could fold up a device in your pocket and unravel it to a 22" monitor... or how about this, google picoprojector - cabable of displaying 1080p images, decent lumen output (not that bright, but the thing is the size of a zippo lighter), nice contrast ratio, DLP... that could be incorporated into the device - some new business phones in japan already have a pico-dlp projector built in.
i can't tell you how many times ive just wanted to use my gaming rig, work on photoshop, or do some 3D editing but ive been stuck somewhere without my monster rig - or on a long flight but my lappy is no powerhouse (7150m gfx just doesn't cut it)...
and what about that, what if the connection speeds (and also rendering speed of the stream too) was fast enough were i could just throw it on a "dummy" laptop (kinda like the redfly?) that has nothing more than a high-res display, CDMA 4G (which is just as fast as gigabit lan), keyboard, and wifi - this machine would act EXACTLY as your desktop, except you can take it with you anywhere there is a cell phone signal or wifi signal...
man, when 4G hits the USA, things are going to really open up... literally, the flood gates will be pulled back then - can you imagine? gigabit networking over a cell network??!! downloading a full DVD-5 in just under 5 minutes!!?
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Looks good....are you using a static IP at home?
Nice OP.
I've been doing that a lot on the run, especially when one of the servers or the nodes gone haywire.
I have to say, a VGA screen is better than the QVGA.
Now, time to pull some prank that I can run OS X on this thing
no static IP, unfortunately verizon fios does not hand them out to residential users; alas, it is dynamic... however, fios only renews the IP every so often - not sure if it is every hour, day, or week - but for the solid 3 or 4 hours i played around with my desktop via my touch pro today, the IP stayed the same.
really, all i wanted to do was wake on my PVR via the magical buzz from the lan - which causes my comp to either boot into mythbuntu or vista configed to load up sagetv, siggraph, and a firewirestb controller automatically. sagetv works beautifully like this - not only can i placeshift and watch the tube (i have sling too, but it doesn't allow for pvr) but i can have my pvr(computer) turned off and be like "oh crap, i forgot to turn on the pvr to record the penn state game... no problem, i'll just log in remotely, which will wake on lan, and then go right into sagetv and start recording...
i mean, the possibilities are endless with this - i love it. at work and need to pull a large file off your computer? no problem, you have your desktop in the palm of your hand. the other cool part about wm6.1 rdp is that it can map your phone as a drive, making file transfers flawless and as fast as your storage card can take them, essentially.
SteveDusa said:
Nice OP.
I've been doing that a lot on the run, especially when one of the servers or the nodes gone haywire.
I have to say, a VGA screen is better than the QVGA.
Now, time to pull some prank that I can run OS X on this thing
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haha, i had some of my friends going that this phone had vista on it - in all honesty, noone but the tech savvy would be able to know that a pda couldn't run it.
although, windows 7 has a stripped kernal that only needs 512Mb of ram - our pda phones are ALMOST able to keep up with that... and just wait for the Via Nano, Intel Atom, Nvidia Tegra, or AMD's offering to show up in a phone.... even better, a pda phone with a UMD drive on it (psp + desktop pc power + small form factor = total convergence device).
man do i love technology
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no static IP, unfortunately verizon fios does not hand them out to residential users; alas, it is dynamic... however, fios only renews the IP every so often - not sure if it is every hour, day, or week - but for the solid 3 or 4 hours i played around with my desktop via my touch pro today, the IP stayed the same.
really, all i wanted to do was wake on my PVR via the magical buzz from the lan - which causes my comp to either boot into mythbuntu or vista configed to load up sagetv, siggraph, and a firewirestb controller automatically. sagetv works beautifully like this - not only can i placeshift and watch the tube (i have sling too, but it doesn't allow for pvr) but i can have my pvr(computer) turned off and be like "oh crap, i forgot to turn on the pvr to record the penn state game... no problem, i'll just log in remotely, which will wake on lan, and then go right into sagetv and start recording...
i mean, the possibilities are endless with this - i love it. at work and need to pull a large file off your computer? no problem, you have your desktop in the palm of your hand. the other cool part about wm6.1 rdp is that it can map your phone as a drive, making file transfers flawless and as fast as your storage card can take them, essentially.
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For dynamic IPs you should try DynDNS. Its a free service that allows you to point a url at your IP, comes with a nifty little service to update the url IP mapping automatically. Works great, but I had to setup port forwarding fro RDP since my compy is behind a wifi router. I am able to access my compy remotely with great ease. and looks beautiful on the 640x480 screen!
Are you using WM6RDP.cab? If you are, have you figured out a way to zoom in to areas of the desktop?
good look on that program, will make things much easier for me! esp if verizon decies to switch the ip on me when i can't be near the comp to figure it out...
this is the wm6.1 rom, i think the zoom function was stripped from it - at least that is what i read. although, i believe that the 6.0 version still has zoom enabled, but i am not 100 percent positive about that... honestly, the vga screen makes it really nice to look at and i didn't have too much of a problem reading anything - but zoom would be a welcome feature.
give the 6.0 version out and if it does have zoom enabled and the speed is up there with this version let me know, cause i would like to have as many features for this as possible... doesn't make much sense to remove a zooming option to me :/
I just installed zaDesktop and it's perfect! I can choose what size I want the session to be, then it will have scroll bars. I can also zoom in and out while in the session and exit full screen mode easily.
coolguy949 said:
I just installed zaDesktop and it's perfect! I can choose what size I want the session to be, then it will have scroll bars. I can also zoom in and out while in the session and exit full screen mode easily.
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Wow that's a much better RDC client!! Thanks
where can i get that app?
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where can i get that app?
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http://www.zatelnet.com/zadesktop/main.php
wow, this is like skyfire, but a whole streaming computer!!!
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http://www.zatelnet.com/zadesktop/main.php
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i meant the one in the video, is that zadesktop or microsoft remote desktop?
Im a complete noob to this remote desktop thing. How do you set it up?
is there anything u need to setup on the computer before it will connect? i have my computer (vista 64bit ultimate) accepting all remote desktop connections... but when i try to connect using zdesktop thru my ip (and even when i use my DNS IP redirect!) i get an error message saying "An error message cannot be displayed because an optional resource assembly containing it cannot be found" any ideas?
Another option is LogMeIn:
https://secure.logmein.com/home.asp
I have been using this on my HTC Mogul, my laptop (Vista Home Premium), and my desktop (Vista Home Premium). It's especially handy when I need to restart Orb on my home desktop PC while at work
By the way - I seem to remember MS Remote Desktop not working on certain versions of Vista.
does logmein cost money? all i saw was a 1 month trial and u have to pay a subscription for each computer... =/
zaDesktop works, but the seperate mouse control is extremely annoying. There has to be someone who can hack the standard remote desktop client and extend the screen size to 1024x768 or better. One of our developers here did a similar thing to the desktop version when it didn't support resolutions above 1600x1200. They just hacked the binary directly searching for that resolution in binary and substituting a higher resolution. Worked like a charm.
yeah the one in my video is the wm6.1 rdp...
when i get the chance i will explain how to set this up - and if anyone beats me to the chance of explaining it on rdp then that's fine too lol busy busy
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I just got my Touch Pro yesterday. When I ordered it I went ahead and added tethering. With my 6800/Titan/Mogul, I was able to tether via bluetooth no problem with a custom ROM that added "internet sharing".
The only way to tether via bluetooth on the Touch Pro stock ROM is via "Modem Link". I got it working fine on Vista. But my work laptop I commute an hour to work each way, is the MacBook Pro.
I absolutely do not want to use a USB cord as there is not much room when you have someone sitting next to you. So I want to be able to connect, and put the phone back in my pocket.
I've searched hi and low for a solution, but can't find anything useful that actually works.
Any suggestions/step by step walk through on a working solution would be much appreciated!!
Thanks!
go->utilities->bluetooth->add new device->phone....should be self explanatory from there.
nikon858 said:
go->utilities->bluetooth->add new device->phone....should be self explanatory from there.
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No, this does not work. It only holds the connection for 5 to 15 seconds before it fails. It worked great with my Mogul, but I've looked everywhere and can't get it to work with my TP!
yeah same here. i've gotten it to connect a couple times, but then it's only for a for about 5-10 seconds and then disconnects. I just ordered a bluetooth dongle that works with mac osx just to be sure it's not the internal bluetooth on the mac. I could be wrong, but I think the reason it's not stable as my previous phone is because connecting via "internet sharing" created a PAN vs. DUN. On my MacBook Pro it would say "join network on <phone name>" and it would work perfect. Using "modem link" I think is just using the DUN profile. Maybe JETware will expose PAN profile and more profiles? I want to try it, but it looks like it's old software.
well no luck with the bluetooth dongle ordered for the mac as there is no software to install that came with it. plugged it in and the os x bluetooth used the dongle instead of the built in bluetooth hardware. that was the only difference.
But again, I don't think it has anything to do with the Mac. I believe it's just the lack of the PAN profile on the phone. DUN profile works fine on the PC, but sucks on the MAC. At least with Verizon and/or the Touch Pro.
I think I'll remove the tethering package until a custom ROM comes out that enables the PAN profile. Hopefully someone can unlock GPS too. Other than VZW locking down those 2 things, I think the phone is great!
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
"WMWifiRouter instantly turns your wifi enabled smartphone* into a wireless internet hotspot. Now you can use your laptop and any other device with wifi to get online and surf, email, instant message, and anything else you normally use the internet for"
Internet Sharing App: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321393
WOW! Thank you! http://www.wmwifirouter.com Works great. It took a little time to troubleshoot at first. But it's always those quick simple solutions that getcha. I just had to disable the power saving feature. But definitely a cool program worth shelling out $30 for. I had no idea that bluetooth limits bandwidth so much. Through WiFi I'm getting 2,418 kbps down and 516 kbps up. I think with bluetooth I was only able to get like 200-400 kbps down. I also had no idea pocket pc's were capable of acting like a router.
Thanks again. This seems to be the best solution for tethering VZW Touch Pro with a MacBook Pro.
By the way, I also tried the Interent Sharing app. Although it puts the program on your phone, it doesn't enable the PAN profile on the phone. So I'm guessing Verizon's a little smarter than just letting a simple app unlock it. I'm assuming a custom ROM in the future will unlock the PAN profile. Even if it does become unlocked, sharing through WiFi is so much faster that it's not even worth it going through bluetooth.
Would it be possible, or has it been done.
Could you use the camera with some software that sends a video stream over the WIFI that can be viewed on another device?
Wow. Based on the huge amount of traffic, I am guessing the answer is no.
I thought web camera plus allowed one to do this with a device synced over bluetooth or wifi, even through 3G.
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
Ateksoft.com-WebcamPlus said:
WebCamera Plus key features:
- Transforms your PDA or Smartphone to high-resolution web-camera.
- Use your PDA/Smartphone as microphone!
Even through Wi-Fi!
- Can work through any connection: USB ActiveSync, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPRS, 3G, LAN.
- Compatible with almost all modern Smartphones and PDAs.
- Can be used as web-camera in many programs: Skype, MSN Messager, Yahoo Messager, Virtual Dub and many others.
- Can capture device screen and transmit video to Desktop PC.
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Scrtcwlvl said:
I thought web camera plus allowed one to do this with a device synced over bluetooth or wifi, even through 3G.
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
(Also wired of course )
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i could never get this to work well with my tytn2. have not tested with the touch pro, however.
support is lacking for this app as well. it is the only one available, so its up to you if you want to try it out
http://www.qik.com/
Check that out.
That won't allow you to use it on your laptop though....
I have used the webcam plus...
Is tricky at times to get working but it does work. I suggest locking the phone though because you WILL hit buttons on the scren trying to point the camera since you can't see the screen.
I havenot trie bluetooth or WiFi but if you can sync your phone to your laptop using those methods then it should work.
Best thing i seen it works and its free and good quality
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294570
This would be one of the things I want to do with my phone now that it just sits around, that and Voip.
Tapatalked
fermy said:
This would be one of the things I want to do with my phone now that it just sits around, that and Voip.
Tapatalked
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I'm not sure how the IP webcam app for Android (linked above) helps since the Touch Pro runs Windows Mobile.
Anyway, for VOIP, the app PortGo actually works fairly well on this phone.
N!njaDuck said:
Would it be possible, or has it been done.
Could you use the camera with some software that sends a video stream over the WIFI that can be viewed on another device?
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Just trawl this site: freewarepocketpc.net or even XDA because I am sure I saw something a few months ago just like what you want.
Hey guys,
So I got tired of muddling through the Splashtop THD threads and figured I could make a new one specific to what I'm wondering without hijacking someone else's thread.
I want/need to remote login to my computer regularly when I'm outside of the house. The bundled Splashtop app doesn't seem to work and just shows a black screen that doesn't ever update when I login or type or anything. It just stays black and the screen refresh rate is essentially 0, regardless of my remote connection. (My home connection is 20 down, 5 up).
Even on PocketCloud, I get a similar thing where it doesn't really log in to the computer and kinda freezes on the screen that presents before it shows the desktop. I've used logmein via the browser when I absolutely needed something done remotely and it's a big pain in the butt.
Here's my question: for TRUE remote login (outside of the house), what solutions do you guys use? I've heard the Splashtop HD app is actually quite good (and better than the bundled one). I've also read that it is more targeted for desktop use than the THD version, which is supposed to be for gaming. Lastly, how do these two compare to logmein? In my experience, Logmein has always been reliable via a browser on a computer, but I haven't ever tried their android app for iOS or android.
Thanks in advance!
bundled one i believe is HD, i have splashtop standard as well. The bundled one works flawlessly for me. i have used a few other remote login apps before. so far splashtop is the only one that would allow me to stream videos from my pc, and watch it on my prime.
I'm thinking about getting the THD version as well, if it's optimized for tegra 4 and has even better multimedia streaming performance.
also did you install splashtop streamer on your pc? as it's required in order for splash top to access your desktop. if remote within your network locally still doesn't pick up then, try to sync using your gmail.
anyways good luck.
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Here's my question: for TRUE remote login (outside of the house), what solutions do you guys use? I've heard the Splashtop HD app is actually quite good (and better than the bundled one). I've also read that it is more targeted for desktop use than the THD version, which is supposed to be for gaming. Lastly, how do these two compare to logmein? In my experience, Logmein has always been reliable via a browser on a computer, but I haven't ever tried their android app for iOS or android.
Thanks in advance!
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I've not used logmein, but I have used both the bundled Splashtop and HD. From home, where I have similar connection speeds as you, Splashtop HD works great but does have some random disconnect issues.
My problem with Splashtop is when i try to use it over 3G or slower wifi connection - it becomes completely useless. It will connect but responsiveness is nil.
That's when i switch over to Teamviewer. Teamviewer works GREAT over even slower 3G speeds. The only thing I don't like about Teamviewer is the way you move the pointer - kindof a virtual mouse type thing that takes some getting used to. I prefer the touch-to-click method of Splashtop but, again, it just does not stand up to Teamviewer as far as connection and performance goes.
Incidentally, teamviewer can connect pc-to-pc as well so I have all of my family's (and extended family's) computer's linked to my account so when the wife is having issues at home, I can simply remote in from the office or wherever and fix her up. It's a great program and it's FREE for personal use.
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I've not used logmein, but I have used both the bundled Splashtop and HD. From home, where I have similar connection speeds as you, Splashtop HD works great but does have some random disconnect issues.
My problem with Splashtop is when i try to use it over 3G or slower wifi connection - it becomes completely useless. It will connect but responsiveness is nil.
That's when i switch over to Teamviewer. Teamviewer works GREAT over even slower 3G speeds. The only thing I don't like about Teamviewer is the way you move the pointer - kindof a virtual mouse type thing that takes some getting used to. I prefer the touch-to-click method of Splashtop but, again, it just does not stand up to Teamviewer as far as connection and performance goes.
Incidentally, teamviewer can connect pc-to-pc as well so I have all of my family's (and extended family's) computer's linked to my account so when the wife is having issues at home, I can simply remote in from the office or wherever and fix her up. It's a great program and it's FREE for personal use.
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yeah, i forgot to include this. i tried teamviewer too a couple months ago, but I didn't like the UI. Seemed like it was a pain to move around and stuff.
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bdneuman said:
I've not used logmein, but I have used both the bundled Splashtop and HD. From home, where I have similar connection speeds as you, Splashtop HD works great but does have some random disconnect issues.
My problem with Splashtop is when i try to use it over 3G or slower wifi connection - it becomes completely useless. It will connect but responsiveness is nil.
That's when i switch over to Teamviewer. Teamviewer works GREAT over even slower 3G speeds. The only thing I don't like about Teamviewer is the way you move the pointer - kindof a virtual mouse type thing that takes some getting used to. I prefer the touch-to-click method of Splashtop but, again, it just does not stand up to Teamviewer as far as connection and performance goes.
Incidentally, teamviewer can connect pc-to-pc as well so I have all of my family's (and extended family's) computer's linked to my account so when the wife is having issues at home, I can simply remote in from the office or wherever and fix her up. It's a great program and it's FREE for personal use.
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I also use Teamviewer, it is especially good for phone becuase of the mouse movement control but I wish they had a tablet optimized version. The PC to PC is great with teamviewer I actually gave my mom a usb with a portable teamviewer program so I can provide tech support on the go to any computer with internet. But as far as the THD vs HD(Bundle) go I would like to have more feedback but I read somewhere that the main improvement is the controller acceptance and full screen support....if you plan on gaming through remote connection at all then go THD no doubt but other than that I am not sure...streaming video probably would benefit from it but I am not sure. And as far as LogMeIn goes, any $30app better be perfect as far as I am concerned( I am not sure of the actual app much beyond price though, it might be great) and the $7 THD would probably be just as good...and the free HD is great already so just sleep on it and chooce one...
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depending on what you need to do with your computer outside your house,
i think your best bet is to set your computer up with VNC that way it goes from your tablet to your computer instead of through some other company's server and such
personally i think thats more secure
LogMeIn can WOL. If Splashtop could do that, I'd give it the win for sure.
2X Client
I tried Splashtop (Bundled) but it didn't allowed me to copy something from my TF clipboard (Text not files) to the computer, so I've been using "2X Client", which uses the Windows Native RDP protocol. Is not great for multimedia, but it doesn't require any additional software to be installed on your target PC and let me copy text from my ICS browser for example to FireFox in the computer.
If I need to connect to a different computer at my house, I just remotely log into my router and change the port forward to a different computer.
I like to use phonemypc since i paid $10 for it a couple years back. that said the bundled splashtop is a tad bit faster but disconnects for a second every few minutes. i still havent found one that streams video well even at home. i've yet to try the splashtop thd, though.
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I tried Splashtop (Bundled) but it didn't allowed me to copy something from my TF clipboard (Text not files) to the computer, so I've been using "2X Client", which uses the Windows Native RDP protocol. Is not great for multimedia, but it doesn't require any additional software to be installed on your target PC and let me copy text from my ICS browser for example to FireFox in the computer.
If I need to connect to a different computer at my house, I just remotely log into my router and change the port forward to a different computer.
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is this one free?
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Yeap, 2X Client is free, you can find it on the Play Store here. But remember, I don't think it will work very well for Multimedia or Gaming
So just as an update to this thread, I downloaded and installed 2x and am still trying to figure out how to configure it for use outside of my wifi network. Pointers would be appreciated!
As for Splashtop THD, I bought it an hour ago, but I returned it because I still have the same issue. When I try to login, I get an unresponsive black screen with 3 scattered "login" boxes at times, but just now I tried again and just got a black screen!
I'm starting to think it may be a connection issue, but I have a 20d/5u connection at home with a strong wifi connection (802.11n, great throughput)
Has anyone seen this issue before with splashtop?
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nhshah7 said:
So just as an update to this thread, I downloaded and installed 2x and am still trying to figure out how to configure it for use outside of my wifi network. Pointers would be appreciated!
As for Splashtop THD, I bought it an hour ago, but I returned it because I still have the same issue. When I try to login, I get an unresponsive black screen with 3 scattered "login" boxes at times, but just now I tried again and just got a black screen!
I'm starting to think it may be a connection issue, but I have a 20d/5u connection at home with a strong wifi connection (802.11n, great throughput)
Has anyone seen this issue before with splashtop?
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Make sure all the correct port ranges are forwarded. Won't work correctly if not.
crystalstylez said:
Make sure all the correct port ranges are forwarded. Won't work correctly if not.
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it does connect to the computer...its just completely unusable!
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nhshah7 said:
So just as an update to this thread, I downloaded and installed 2x and am still trying to figure out how to configure it for use outside of my wifi network. Pointers would be appreciated!
As for Splashtop THD, I bought it an hour ago, but I returned it because I still have the same issue. When I try to login, I get an unresponsive black screen with 3 scattered "login" boxes at times, but just now I tried again and just got a black screen!
I'm starting to think it may be a connection issue, but I have a 20d/5u connection at home with a strong wifi connection (802.11n, great throughput)
Has anyone seen this issue before with splashtop?
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you have to be logged into your machine when splashtop connects. if your pc turns off display, sleeps, logs off, or is configured for multi-user it will not work. The streamer app should prevent the pc from sleeping. what operating system are you using on your desktop? you can test splashtop with the built-in version of mynet.
as for 2x remote for it to work outside your wifi you need to port forward tcp 3389 to your desktop ip address in your internet router. then you would configure 2x remote to connect to your internet ip.
Is the bundled one called something different. Im not seen it on mine.
Edit. See itnow
lil-devil said:
depending on what you need to do with your computer outside your house,
i think your best bet is to set your computer up with VNC that way it goes from your tablet to your computer instead of through some other company's server and such
personally i think thats more secure
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RealVNC has been flawless for me. Works real smooth on the prime. I use it a lot at work to bounce back and forth between my desktop and tablet when in meetings and such. You get mouse capability as well.
However a lot of people have been using Wyse pocket cloud pro with great sucess as well when outside the office. They could only get the paid version to work though.
Both are available on the "Google Play" market.
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RealVNC has been flawless for me. Works real smooth on the prime. I use it a lot at work to bounce back and forth between my desktop and tablet when in meetings and such. You get mouse capability as well.
However a lot of people have been using Wyse pocket cloud pro with great sucess as well when outside the office. They could only get the paid version to work though.
Both are available on the "Google Play" market.
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Any tips on how to set it up? I have my computer behind two routers so I need to do some weird forwarding I imagine...
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I use Splashtop THD on my TFP and i love it i also use the HD version on phone and tablet from time to time as there are some things i like the HD version for as it offers a few mouse pointer eases and i don't always wanna use my finger as the mouse and prefer a more precise mouse pointer. as far as connection i haven't had any issues while connected to my wireless network. the 3g connection however is greatly dependent on the speed of said network so sometimes its awesome if i have 1m speed+ and little unresponsive or disconnects with lower speeds. the functionality however is just wonderful and meets all my needs eventually i will get the dock so that i can start gaming on it as its very difficult without. i also have streamed some of my 1080p movies i have on my computer and the fps is great sometimes there is a slight stutter but nothing that makes it a bad watch
have you attempted to set this connection up through a vpn?
http://www.monsterdigital.com/otg-cloud-mobile-personal-streaming
Up to 2 terabytes per slot of mobile wireless storage. bring your own drive. Since I do a lot of backwoods camping I figured it would be a great time with the family to watch videos and pictures of the past camping trips and vacations.(great for stories) and nothing like having your entire music collection on top of it.
so I saw this at best buy and figured what the heck, I can return it if it works crappy. I got the smallest 8gb $59.99 (cause I would use my own storage) It was very buggy and I wasn't just ready to return it, it was in the box and bag receipt and all. I had a little insomnia so I gave it another wack. boy was I happy I did. It stream hi-def movies no problem but had to be in line of site within 20 feet.
It has 3 storage points. usb, micro, and sd all can be used at the same time for more than 2 terabytes. I did try a drive with multiple partitions but it did not detect it and I did put a usb hub on it with multiple disks but only detected one of them.
Very touchy to configure, here is how I get perfect results every time.
never change more than one thing at a time and apply settings everytime.
do not change the 10.10.1.1 lan for it as I got better throughput. (do'nt ask me why... I know it sounds strange)
It has pass through to the internet capablites through a rj-45 connector or wireless bridging I chose neither but tested all scenarios and it worked great.
Adesktop browser works great but if your going to use your phone to configure it set "request desktop site"
it's supposed to run for 3 hours and when not in use can double as a battery backup power supply for your phone. Kinda neat you can use it even when your not using it.
the app for it worked fine
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xyzw.otgdriver&hl=en
I also used es explorer and made an ftp connection to 10.10.1.1/tmp/usr and found all the mounts so I would not just have accessibility to the storage through the otg cloud app.
Day 1 negative one star
Day 2 five stars.
I was reading the comments on it in the play store and everyone but one person had something bad to say about it. I'm glad I read his comment because he inspired me to try harder.
hope this helps.
this would solve all those Iphone local storage issues in a heartbeat.
Oops. I just noticed that the personal drive I connected which gets power and data through the same cable was spinning constantly not sure if it was es Explorer but I wouldn't leave the drive connected to it at all time probably does not have a spend down command I would probably go to a solid state drive but that can get expensive so you would probably want to unplug the hard drive when not in use
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I am correcting myself, using es-explorer and ftp'ing to 10.10.1.1/tmp/usb and also a hub connected to the usbport, you can connect to all partitions and connect multiple drive combinations. It does not work through the otg cloud ap. make sure you use wpa2 security because the ftp server is anonymous login only. I was also able to ftp from a command prompt with an anonymous anonymous login while connect. I probably wouldn't want this connected without a firewall for any long period of time that's why I don't use the bridging. (either wireless or ethernet)
I've got kind of a strange WiFi issue I've been working through for almost 6 months, and by process of elimination, I'm beginning to actually wonder if it could be an Android/Google bug. Only google devices seem to be impacted. I'm gonna overshare information here so that my troubleshooting steps can be audited; sorry if it's a long post. I’m open to any and all suggestions, but I’ve worked through this a ton and am pretty frustrated.
I have a pretty spread out house, so we made the decision to install 3 AP's, one in each far corner upstairs and one in the middle downstairs. Each one has the same SSID, so roaming should work. They’re on channels 1/6/11, all running at 2.4Ghz. I also am a pretty involved linux sysadmin, I have a home server running Ubuntu Server; I call it the HDA which runs my DHCP and a DNS server (and an iperf2 server). I have comcast business class to my house. The network topography is outlined below as best I can, all with Cat6e cables:
SMC Gateway (SMCD3G-CCR)
Minecraft Server (Dell Poweredge SC1425)
HDA Ethernet 1 (Dell Poweredge SC1425)
24-Port Switch
HDA Ethernet 2
Living Room 5-Port Gigabit Switch (TP-Link TL-SG105)
Living Room AP (TL-WA01ND; Channel 1) (Used to be Edimax EW-7228APn; Channel 1)
Xbox-360
Office Desk 5-Port Gigabit Switch (TP-Link TL-SG105)
System76 Wild Dog Performance
Attic 8-Port Gigabit Switch (TP-LINK TL-SG108)
Master Bedroom AP (Edimax EW-7228APn; Channel 6)
Theater Room 5-Port Gigabit Switch (TP-Link TL-SG105)
Theater Room AP (Edimax EW-7228APn; Channel 11)
Xbox-One
I have a bunch of wifi devices as well:
System76 Darter Laptop (Debian Sid)
Google Nexus 5 (Android 5.1, TWRP, Rooted, used to be on 4.4 as well)
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (Android 4.4.2)
4 Chromecasts
HP Work Laptop (Windows 7 Enterprise)
HP Wife's Laptop (Windows 7 Home)
Wife's Samsung Galaxy S3 (Android Jellybean) (INACTIVE)
Wife's Work iPhone 6
Wife's Work HP Laptop (Windows 7 Enterprise)
My DHCP server assigns all static IP's, and partitions things into 2 DHCP groups: primary DNS server pointing to the HDA and secondary pointing to google's DNS, or both primary and secondary pointing to google. All wired devices on the network perform flawlessly, and I've done repeated iperf tests from node to node to verify that the wired network works great, including wires to the APs.
So, now the issues. For a long time I operated under the belief that something was wrong with my setup, and I'm still open to that possibility. I had wifi connection issues on my darter laptop, on the chromecasts, and on the nexus phone. My work Windows laptop, my wife's home Windows laptop, my wife’s work iPhone, and my wife's work windows laptop work fine. After extensive troubleshooting of the network (I changed every setting on all the APs, I even swapped the living room AP out for the different one, and conducted an extensive wifi survey to find the best channel in each location) I discovered my darter laptop has a hardware flaw; the antenna for the wifi is directly under the keyboard, so having the laptop in your lap while typing on it causes dramatic wifi degradation (documented here: www youtube com watch?v=gDekZp3MFA8 ). I got a usb wifi adapter, and I've been golden ever since.
The issue itself: I’ll be connected to the wifi network, and some sites will load fine, then suddenly I’ll try to load something like the reddit app, or twitter, or facebook, etc etc...and it’ll just load forever. I’ll try to upload a youtube video of my son, it’ll take 45 minutes to start, but then when it does it’s lightning fast. Most apps oddly don’t time out...some do; Marvel Puzzle Quest gives “check your connection” but I’ve let “Reddit is Fun Golden Platinum” think for over 15 minutes, and it never times out, which I’d expect it to do in a network-down kind of situation. Reddit is the biggest example, I can browse something like /r/pics and load 5 images from imgur flawlessly, then suddenly the 6th will just never load. Additionally, when I come home from work, I find that even when wifi is on, it rarely connects to my network...in the settings, wifi will have the little ! next to it, but if i just manually connect to the network it connects instantly. A couple of times on my nexus it gave me the “poor connectivity” exclamation mark while already on the wifi, but I believe I disabled that using this guide: android. stackexchange. com questions/100657/how-to-disable-captive-portal-detection-how-to-remove-exclamation-mark-on-wi-fi All the services are fine, because I’ll drop off wifi and switch to LTE and everything loads fine. If I iperf to my HDA by IP from the Nexus, I’ll get very mixed results...I’ll get no response whatsoever and a timeout, then disconnect and reconnect (landing on a different AP) and it’ll work, but slow, and repeat again with different results. It feels like there’s an intermittent thing going on where the device forgets how to wifi for a bit.
My work also has a multi-AP setup; tons of Cisco AP’s broadcasting about 6 APs. I have trouble connecting here with the Nexus 5 as well, it doesn’t auto-connect (going into wifi settings, it says “Wifi Connection Failure”), and when I do if it even connects it’s very slow...meanwhile my laptop is on the same wifi and it’s lickety split. This is trickier since I don’t control the services and can’t test as well, also things like websense are in play. Both at home and at work, the wifi worked fine before the upgrade from 4.*. I did some validation with the networking guys, from the radius side I’m golden, but at this point I don’t even try to connect anymore. (Actually, today, I tried on our unrestricted guest net as well, same message, “Wifi Connection Failure” and that’s our unrestricted network for patients...iphones sitting right next to me are fine)
Before, my wife's S3 worked ok, but it was time for it to be replaced and she got a Samsung Galaxy S6, then at the same time got a galaxy tab. The phone came with Android 5.0.2 and the tablet came with 4.4.2, and she’s now having wifi issues. Additionally, our chromecasts do the same kind of thing (though it’s harder to debug). I can cast a song from DSub off my LAN subsonic server, and it plays fine...then it goes to fetch the next song, and may just sit for 20 minutes...never times out, but just hangs. I’ve gone and moved ALL wifi devices having issues into the DHCP group which just uses google’s DNS to eliminate that as a factor, but it hasn’t helped anything. Screencasting or watching Netflix drop off the chromecasts constantly.
So I did some testing, to eliminate variables in the multi-ap setup, I performed an iperf test with my laptop and my nexus right next to each other after renaming 2 of my APs so there’s no roaming. I performed all these tests sitting in my living room, both devices using the same DNS settings and sitting about 18 inches from each other. Reminder, Master and Theater are pretty far away.
Test 1: Master Bedroom AP
Nexus 1: 10.4s, 384KB, 302Kb/s
Nexus 2: 20.1s, 640KB, 261Kb/s
Nexus 3: 11.5s, 1MB, 732Kb/s
Nexus Speedtest: 184ms, ...stopped saying “Network communication issues” mid test, so I re-ran, 27ms, 1.44Mb/s down, 0.10Mb/s up
Darter 1: 10.7s, 1.5MB, 1.18Mb/s
Darter 2: 11.0s, 1.88MB, 1.43Mb/s
Darter 3: 10.3s, 1.50MB, 1.22Mb/s
Darter Speedtest: 25ms, .81Mb/s down, 1.35Mb/s up
Test 2: Living Room AP
Nexus 1: 10.1s, 6.75MB, 5.63Mb/s
Nexus 2: 10.1s, 6.12MB, 5.07Mb/s
Nexus 3: 10.2s, 4.75MB, 3.92Mb/s
Nexus Speedtest: 31ms, 8.07Mb/s...stopped saying “Network communication issues” mid test, so I re-ran, 29ms, 17.50Mb/s down, 5.05Mb/s up
Darter 1: 10.5s, 6.12MB, 4.92Mb/s
Darter 2: 10.1s, 7.62MB, 6.31Mb/s
Darter 3: 10.3s, 6.75MB, 5.51Mb/s
Darter Speedtest: 18ms, 15.13Mb/s down, 7.68Mb/s up
Test 3: Theater Room AP
Nexus 1: 111.3s, 512KB, 37.7Kb/s
Nexus 2: 32.5s, 384KB, 96.9Kb/s
Nexus 3: 102.9s, 331KB, 26.3Kb/s
Nexus Speedtest: Too weak to successfully load speedtest
Darter 1: 24.6s, 384KB, 128Kb/s
Darter 2: 25.7s, 384KB, 122Kb/s
Darter 3: 30.0s, 512KB, 140Kb/s
Darter Speedtest: Too weak to successfully load speedtest
So, the network is consistent-ish across them all, but the speedtest thing is exactly what I seem to experience. It’s FAST FAST FAST dead FAST dead FAST FAST FAST dead.
I don’t know what else to do. I am posting here since it’s the Google wireless devices all doing this, I don’t have a single complaint from a wired device or a wireless linux/windows device. It’s the android and chromecast devices that are giving me hell, and other than this correlation I’m stumped. I don’t know how else to troubleshoot; I don’t want to have to replace the APs but if I need to I can try to talk the wife into it. Just to be complete, I’ve theorized and tested the following to no avail:
Roaming Threshhold - Eliminated multiple AP’s with same SSID, no improvement
DNS - Switched to google DNS for all clients, no improvement
Channel - Surveyed and changed channels, no improvement
AP make/model - Replaced one AP, no improvement
Home network connection - Tried at work, no improvement
I’ve attached my network topography stuff, I can provide DHCP and DNS configs as well if anyone thinks it’d be helpful.