Ive flashed a custom rom (HTC_HERMES_S64_WM_6.1_TouchFlo2D_UC_ WWE v4) on my hermes (herm200), right after flashing i saw the No GSM error. So i reset and removed my battery for a few seconds. Fixed the problem for 2 days, recieving sms & calls just fine. After 2 days it returned.
How can i restore this problem?
Ive tried the following:
- soft reset + remove battery 30mins (still no gsm, but os works)
- hard reset + remove battery 30mins (still no gsm, but os works)
- reflash the custom rom (still no gsm, but os works)
- flash a different custom rom (still no gsm, but os works)
- flash a 1.51 radio only (stuck at 0%)
- flash a 1.56 radio only (stuck at 0%)
- flash originial WM6 rom (stuck at 12%)
- flash original WM5 rom (doesnt start communication error)
- mtty.exe method from the wiki "no gsm" hints
- SSPL-HERM.exe method
Anything i might have overseen looking for a fix? Kinda thought flashing with hard spl was fairly safe but looks like i was wrong ;-(
I don't believe Hard SPL was the problem. The Hermes seem to have a problem with the radio after a while. It could be a chip on the MB is overheating, a problem with the radio antenna or anything.
Flashing Hard SPL is a must if you want to flash new roms and saying that Hard SPL is the culprit may make noobs not do it causing a lot of problems.
The fact your GSM is missing after flashing it may just be a coincidence.
So saying, if you've tried to re-install the shipped stock rom and a standalone radio rom then it seems your radio rom memory may be corrupted. This means your phone won't work but you can still use as a PDA.
Sorry...
Could flashing the original SPL result in flashing the shipped rom succesfully?
Thus removing hard spl and returning it in factory state?
Tried making a usb log but the ansi text file is a whopping 104 mb
I think the problem lies here, after the Restore ExtRom Complete it says:
"Port read timeout!!!"
"AUX_process FAIL, reason 2, dwRead=0, dwWritten=41.."
"+Port1 did not get connect"
No, once the meory is corrupted on the radio rom it is pretty much unrecoverable. At leas, no ones succeeded yet.
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Hi all,
First of all I want to let you know that I did search the forum for a solution. In fact, I found a lot of workarounds but none of them actually worked.
Let me give some details about my problem: My Hermes was working fine. I was running the official WM6 ROM supplied by HTC, so no customized ROM here.
It was going fine until the WM frozed. Then I soft reset the device and after that I never got cellular signal again.
While booting the device I got the message: "no GSM".
First thing I tried was to flash a new radio ROM. In all the attempts the progress bar never moved from 0% and after a while I got the communication problem error.
Then I tried flashing a whole ROM. This time the progress bar stopped at 81%. Apparently in the first 81% it flashes the OS and in the last 19% it writes the radio. Anyway, I tried this a few times and never finished.
In fact, after every communication error message I got stuck in the bootloader screen.
The only thing that works is to flash a ROM WITHOUT the radio!!
Is there anything I can do to save my phone or am I condemned to use my Hermes as a phone-less pda?
I tried everything I found in the wiki/forums, but I couldn't find a working solution.
I suspect that the blocks of memory where the radio data reside got corrupted, could that be possible?
PLEASE HELP!
thanks in advance!
Chris
A similar thing happen to me several months ago. While on a call my phone froze and when I soft-reset it the dreaded 'No GSM' issue appeared. I tried flashing radios/full roms/etc, but nothing worked. I ended up sending my phone to the htc repair facility and they fixed it at no cost. (Other than not having a phone for ~10 days)
Thanks dang, but I don't have a HTC service center where I live (Argentina, LATAM)
I'm faithful that the people of this wonderful community will be able to help me.
Just for curiosity, where did you send your device? Is it in the US?
cheers
sounds like a hardware problem to me...
Hi, there! I found that a lot of us who have bricked our Hermes, don't have a responsive radio bootloader, so when they try to flash a full rom, the progress bar hangs to 13%, or 81%. This is because at that time the flasher is trying to enter the radio bootloader, but because it's corrupted, it hangs. Till today there is no known solution to this one. I'm far away from England where I bought my Hermes, so I'm not thinking to send it back for repair. I'm a programmer, so my knowledge may be usefull here. The first thing I must know is if i can use the "lnb" command without being SuperCID. I mean if there is something like a Hard-SPL with an "lnb" command - (or renamed for security reasons). Maybe there is hope!
How can I try that?
windshearx said:
The first thing I must know is if i can use the "lnb" command without being SuperCID. I mean if there is something like a Hard-SPL with an "lnb" command - (or renamed for security reasons). Maybe there is hope!
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You can use 'lnb' in HardSPL without having a real SuperCID; however you will not be able to flash a radio with 'lnb' command. The radio chipset has its own bootloader, the and the SPL just acts as a pass-through sending the data directly to radio chipset through the s2410 UART.
I had one device with non-responsive htc_boot and tried all kinds of SPL patches to flash htc_boot again on radio, without success. The only known method to fix this is to take the BGA chip out with hot air and reflash it with special hardware, as it is not common to have this equipment at home, your only option is to send it somewhere to do it for you.
However, I don't want to discourage you to research on it, maybe you find something i didn't
I have a similar problem
I also have a NO GSM and corrupted CID but I can access KITL and use it with PB 5.0. and I followed this steps here but the phone doesnt boot completely. It stops just after the two boot screens on Black WM6 ending on a white screen and the debug window on PB after loading all sort of things begin showing these lines over and over:
@@@@@@ HUB state changes now @@@@@@
[HDC]HubStatusChangeThreadPN TRUE
[HDC]HubStatusChangeThreadPN FALSE
Is there any hope for me? I have the cingular 8525
thanks
Gents, do you think the solution presented in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280425 could help me?
Please advise.
thanks again
chriscec said:
Just for curiosity, where did you send your device? Is it in the US?
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I sent it to the HTC service center in Texas, US.
I just got my replacement from ATT.. Had the same problem. Its a hardware problem.. I wouldnt waste anymore of your time.
first, i'm sorry for my english
I've the same problem with a V1605 (french SFR), i've tried every solution but flash radio doesn't work.
I can flash cooked os without any problem, but it's impossible to put official
It's only a pda now, it's better than a brick
My hernes use to be the same as you 'NoGSM'.I tried to install the official rom,but it 's not work at all.I called to service center ask this problem,so they said that it must be only changed the mainboard. That 's terrible!!!
for ALL -that has NO GSM and stuck at OS boot,
please follow this link -
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PB_KITL_HERMES
the link above help me to bring back my hermes alive (about four hours work).
otoro_315 said:
for ALL -that has NO GSM and stuck at OS boot,
please follow this link -
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PB_KITL_HERMES
the link above help me to bring back my hermes alive (about four hours work).
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That only works with phones with KITL...which I don't seem to have.
Sorry, how to config the phone with KITL and solve the no gsm problem.
No GSM but when sim inserted
Hi all, First sorry for my bad english.
I also have 2 bricked Tytn Hermes 200. Its not my personal ones Its my company's property, which pple were using this phones. So i'm facin with problem which many pple here having but with exception. both phones having no gsm error when sim inserted but without sim its fine. In other words , device info showing every info including IMEI when sim unavailable. And some times works with sim but after making few call and receiving phone hangs(not system) and goes off from network but anthena signal still showing few bars. I'm thinking maybe the radio hangs totally and goes off, and after soft restart NO GSM. I also tried many flashing upgrading those things nothing can really help me.
When im flashing original rom from HTC (the latest one HTC_TyTN_WWE_3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10_108) its hanging on 12% and doing 3 or 4 times recovery , but its finishes succesfully. So what exactly happening in 12th%?. Maybe its started flashing radio and stopped on bad block ? But then why its finishes succesfully after few retry?. Ok so if any one wants to experiments on the phones except radio welcome. I'll help. And some can give me quick example of how to check bad blocks?.
Tnx.
@akarandomjames -
#1. have you try the comm button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
#2. OR try the comm button+OK button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
anyway, i'm not sure if KITL is dependend on the ROM version. because when my device was in NO GSM status, SPL is 1.04, HTC bootloader is 0108, and lost SuperCID. Because of my device is still has SPL 1.04, i was able to load WM5 full ROM upgrade using WWE HTC English QTEK_001 2.05.255.1 01/17/07 version (ROM available on this site under HERMES Upgrade link), run it twice. once you have successful load the WM5 ROM then try to do step #1 or #2 above to get KITL USB display on your screen device.
Note: i don't think KITL mode is not available once your device is in Production Mode. anyone here can verify this?
otoro_315 said:
@akarandomjames -
#1. have you try the comm button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
#2. OR try the comm button+OK button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
anyway, i'm not sure if KITL is dependend on the ROM version. because when my device was in NO GSM status, SPL is 1.04, HTC bootloader is 0108, and lost SuperCID. Because of my device is still has SPL 1.04, i was able to load WM5 full ROM upgrade using WWE HTC English QTEK_001 2.05.255.1 01/17/07 version (ROM available on this site under HERMES Upgrade link), run it twice. once you have successful load the WM5 ROM then try to do step #1 or #2 above to get KITL USB display on your screen device.
Note: i don't think KITL mode is not available once your device is in Production Mode. anyone here can verify this?
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My device is still SuperCID and I know I don't have KITL...I have SPL 1.04 as well and HTC Bootloader is 0108. I can't install any ROMs with radios as they will hang at 11/12%. I will attempt this "overload" method where it seems some people have had luck with it...after a few recoveries it just finally installs...but I don't think that will be the case.
If I can't fix this in a few days, I will most likely use my warranty or just wait for the Kaiser.
My variation of No GSM
I feel like I have problem 1A...where I am able to boot into OS but no GSM.
I am still SuperCID, SPL 1.04, HTC Bootloader 0108. Last known radio before corruption was 1.48.00.00. ROM where this problem occured: VP3G 3.60.1.
I was not even in the middle of an upgrade...just a soft reset after my phone ALREADY lost GSM capabilities during a tether session. It was stuck with no signal in Phone Mode...I put it in Flight Mode...then tried to move it back to Phone Mode and it wouldn't do so. I soft reset...and the no GSM stuck.
I tried to reinstall radio...many errors...stuck on bootloader. At first, OS's only were not installing as well but I got past that. Now I am able to boot into OS's with limited capabilities...and they will NOT ACTIVESYNC at all. Regardless of how old or new the ROM is. I tried older OS's that I knew worked in the past for me...but they refused to activesync.
Due to that, I am not able to install latest HardSPL 2.10Oli via SSPL. That seems to be the only way to do it according to my knowledge and what I've read. Maybe mtty was capable but I'm not sure. HardSPL 1.40Oli wasn't giving me any problems though, but I just wanted to have the latest one so I can avoid IPL damage.
I can only install anything if I start the device in bootloader...and I'm only limited to the OS since my Radio Bootloader seems corrupted.
I'm not sure what caused the corruption in the first place...but I feel annoying now posting on different parts of the forum with a problem that seems to be growing in the community.
I have one Tytn that was bricked while flashing Radio rom. I tried everything that I could find on this forum and nothing (flashing from Win, flashing form SD card, tried with mtty - no luck). When I try to flash any radio rom it stucks either on 0% or 12%. I could boot the OS, but the problem now is that I wanted to try one more thing - to downgrade SPL (it was IPL 1.04 and SPL 2.30 Olipro). I used Hard-SPL v7 first but it didn`t downgrade, and then I tried the procedure for downgrade from mrvanx, frist with Hard-SPL v2. And then I was shocked. After the flashing procedure was 100% complete the device turned off, and now I can`t turn it on. I removed the battery for couple of minutes - nothing. It`s dead. It is like there is no battery (it is not the battery, i tried with another one that works), nothing happens when I press the power button.
Did someone had this problem. Is there any hope it could work. If I can`t bring it alive, could the HTC service do it???
Sorry for opening this topic that fast, but i was in a shock when it happened. I succedded to bring it on, I didn`t know that hold the reset button longer! Maybe this could use to someone. Never give up
Mixa84 said:
I have one Tytn that was bricked while flashing Radio rom. I tried everything that I could find on this forum and nothing (flashing from Win, flashing form SD card, tried with mtty - no luck). When I try to flash any radio rom it stucks either on 0% or 12%. I could boot the OS, but the problem now is that I wanted to try one more thing - to downgrade SPL (it was IPL 1.04 and SPL 2.30 Olipro). I used Hard-SPL v7 first but it didn`t downgrade, and then I tried the procedure for downgrade from mrvanx, frist with Hard-SPL v2. And then I was shocked. After the flashing procedure was 100% complete the device turned off, and now I can`t turn it on. I removed the battery for couple of minutes - nothing. It`s dead. It is like there is no battery (it is not the battery, i tried with another one that works), nothing happens when I press the power button.
Did someone had this problem. Is there any hope it could work. If I can`t bring it alive, could the HTC service do it???
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I have your same promblem..
Once downgraded to old spl you were able to upgrade the radio rom?
Is it correct?
I thought that I will be able, but it seems that my radio bootloader is corrupt. I am reading now the forum, and I think (if I understood it) that I have to write raw radio rom (.nb file). Am I right? Anyone!
Hi,
I've got two HTC Nikis in front of me, they are identical with Tom's ROMs expcept one has the 25.65.30.04W Protocol ROM and the other has the 25.65.30.04H Protocol ROM.
The H ROM device has a corrupt screen when I dial a number. It also displays the flip open menus without the background or graphics (just shows the text for each option).
What does the protocol ROM do and how/where can I update it?
Thanks in advance all
D.
Ignore it!
W and H is a internal function Discription about the Radio Rom and change some times!
The Protocol Nr. "25.65.30.04" mean, you have the Radio "1.58.21.23"!!!
If you have Display Problem, this Problem have nothing todo with the Radio Rom. Try to Hardreset your Device. The most Rom Cooker use the CustomRUU, but they doesnt understand ... this Rom is Only for SPL and Radio Rom Updates, too prevent a Hardreset!!! If you flash a Rom ... you need Hardreset your Device!!!
thanks, just so I'm clear, a Hard Reset is to press both green/red softkeys whilst turning on the Niki (this gives me the - lose all your data message, and does a reset) - I did that and the corruption is still there. Does it have to be done directly after flashing?
So what's with the H ans W revisions - does this mean I'm using different radio roms?
i tried, but result were the same....seems like some graphy broken..
same here - reflashed, hard reset and still corrupt graphics.
very strange - the only other thing that is different between to two phones I have here is that one of them has a clever SIM that seems to have an app/STK Service on it (etisalat)
Make a Picture of your graphic problem!
i dont know what w or h means, but i think you can ignore it. try to flash a FULL HTC Rom with SPL, Radio and OS like HTC ASIA Rom and then you try to flash your favorite Cooked Rom!!
Hi,
I have this wizard for couple of years.
It works fine but sometimes looses connection with GSM (became unavailable).
The bad joke is that I do not know about it (signal indicator shows good signal and others are ok).
At the moment I'm using the following firmware:
ipl 2.21.0001
spl 2.21.0001
gsm 02.07.10
os 2.21.4.1
WM5
I think the first possible solution is to upgrade radio.
Which version works most stable? Where is it? How to reprogram it without hard reset and reflashing all device (too hard to backup and reinstall all the software)?
Thanks.
Oleg.
Check out 'XDA-Wiki' you'll find all the Radio Roms listed there.
Its very simple to flash and upgrade Radio Rom,just hook up the phone with pc via usb cable and run the RUU in the Radio Rom,it'll hardly take a couple of minutes to flash.
zabardast_1 said:
Check out 'XDA-Wiki' you'll find all the Radio Roms listed there.
Its very simple to flash and upgrade Radio Rom,just hook up the phone with pc via usb cable and run the RUU in the Radio Rom,it'll hardly take a couple of minutes to flash.
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I've found 2.71 with RUU_GO.exe
Is it the file to run? Is it suitable for 'operators' phone (G4)?
Can I be sure that nothing will happens with the current apps and data?
All Radio Roms are safe to flash to any device,G3 or G4,it just flashes and upgrades the GSM files and nothing else is changed or effected,it doesn't have any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) in it.None of your personal data or application will get effected.
The most stable and commonly used Radio rom is considered to be is 2.19.11 and 2.69.11.But everyone have their own experiences,it all depends which suites you the best.
Hi,
thank you!
you were right about simplicity
last time (couple years ago) it was much more tricky to reprogram all rom
just flashed 2.69 radio and will check it's stability
i have 3.02... radio on a g4
When i tried to install any firmware the progress stop at 11% and the Hermes only turn on in bootmode, any idea??
rmorera84 said:
When i tried to install any firmware the progress stop at 11% and the Hermes only turn on in bootmode, any idea??
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I had that problem and few more with my Hermes.
While it didn't help me, this suggestion by ultramag69 may help you...
Use the sd card method to flash a new rom, instead of a USB cable/Windows computer.
1. Format a 2Gb or less sd card to FAT32, copy the large 50MB-90MB .nbh file onto it and rename to hermimg.nbh
2. Insert the card into your Hermes and reset to bootloader (hold OK & POWER and push RESET for a sec with the stylus)
3. If you haven't stuffed up the other steps, follow the prompts.
Hope this helps!
Just one other thing summoner, make sure you have Hard SPL V7 installed. Otherwise the ONLY rom I'd try flashing like that is the SHIPPED STOCK ROM. Its so the CID will be recognised and won't cause a brick.
rmorera84, unless you've installed Hard SPL V7 then find the SHIPPED STOCK ROM and flash that, anything else may permanently brick your Hermes.
If you have Hard SPL V7 (IPL 1.04, SPL 2.10 oli) then flash what you like...
Cheers...
- Installed latested Orange rom, that I know of - SPV_M3100_ROMUpdate_1007
- installed Hard SPL 7 & applied SIM unlock/super CID
- re-installed TNT TNT.19199_Professional_Hermes
The result is:
IPL-1.01
SPL-1.40.Olipro
I suppose I should upgrading the radio rom now!?
I am told don't try fixing what isn't broken - and it is working. 3G iNet, Phone, WiFi, BT - all good atm.
Or is there a particular update I should still install?
Thanks!
SUMM0NER, you're using an older, not so safe version of Hard SPL. The Hermes is downgraded to SPL 1.40 when you sim/CID unlock your phone. Best idea would be to re-install Hard SPL V7. Its a later version that seems less prone to problems when flashing.
Go back to the Hard SPL thread and get Hard SPL V7. I had the same thing happen to me when I unlocked the Hermes, nearly cost me my handset.
The steps are unlock Hermes, Install Hard SPL then upgrade OS.
Cheers...
Do I need to re-apply the OS rom file?
I just reinstalled Hard SPL7, now shows as IPL-104, SPL-2.10.Olipro.
Thanks!
My hermes only work whit this rom:Schaps_WM6Pro_ESN_3.54b-0808_Full
Because whit any other rom they stuck at 11%.
This is the info or the phone:
IPL-1.01
Spl-1.40.Olipro
Whit the first rom the htc boot but the phone funtion don´t work.
rmorera84, refer to my last post.
SUMM0NER, no. You have loaded the os, the reason you put Hard SPL V7 is if you want to upgrade the radio rom (not a good idea unless you are experiencing problems) or wish to change the os. Just means recovery is easier than if you didn't have it.
Cheers...
Many thanks ultramag69.
rmorera84 what branding is your Hermes (ie: Orange M3100, T-Mobile Vario 2, Vodeaphone V1605 etc...)?
Can I assume your Hermes is working right now?
If it is download and install HardSPL V.7 (attached to the bottom of the first post!)
Ones done verify that it installed correctly by holding the OK & Power button and pushing reset for a sec. The screen should display the coloured bars and say towards the centre: SPL-2.10.Olipro
It´s Cingular 8525, i could install the HardSPL V.7, now what rom i can flash??
You didn't confirm if it is working right now!?
If it is not working, try one of the official WM5 Cingular roms from this list. If that worked apply HardSPL 7 and take it from there.
Ones you downloaded the Cingular rom update you will have to keep unpacking the .exe files until you come to the actual .NBH file (WinRAR works for me).
Then follow ultramag69's instructions on flashing the rom via memory card.
Works, now i have this info:
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-2.10.Olipro
I download the official Cingular WM5 rom, but. i don´t know how install this rom by memory card, could you help me??
Excellent!
Try downgrading to the Cingular rom via USB. Just double click the EXE and follow the instructions.
To use the memory card method follow these steps...
0. unpack the .exe file containing the rom with Winrar (right-click exe then choose "Extract to...\")
1. Format a 2Gb or less sd card to FAT32, copy the large 50MB-90MB .nbh file onto it and rename to hermimg.nbh
2. Insert the card into your Hermes and reset to bootloader (hold OK & POWER and push RESET for a sec with the stylus)
3. If you haven't stuffed up the other steps, follow the prompts.
The reason to use the memory card to upgrade a rom, rather than a usb cable, is to cut down on failed upgrades (dodgy Windows/usb port/usb cable/etc..).
All working? Try upgrading to a Hermes rom that didn't work previously.
Any rom you can find in the Hermes section. Go to the WM06 part of the forum, theres a sticky at the top with about 50 older roms and you'll find other roms there too (latest is wm6.5).
Cheers...
i install the official WM5 AT-T version the WM6 AT-T, but, i still whit the no-gsm problem, can i flash i radio? or what i can do??
You may not be able to fix this, if you know what the original SHIPPED STOCK ROM was and can find it, then flash that. It may not work, if it gets stuck at 11% - 17% mark it means the radio ROM is stuffed and the memory area is corrupted. Not fixable.
You could also try, if you know what it is, the original radio rom by itself. Again, if you can't get it to work, you have a PDA but won't work as a phone ever again. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Im to having the same problem, it keeps going back to the 2.1.Olipro boot loader.
I tried the memory card option and it starts to install but then stops.
Does anyone have and sugestions?
Cheers
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Hi, I got my Hermes 8525 in boot mode what i did is to install this Schaps_WM6Pro_WWE_4.00_Full.exe now my hermes is working but i want to unlock it..what can I do cos everytime i try got in to boot mode again..any help tks.,..