Well I [finally] got my Touch Pro yesterday at Verizon. Pissed at the RAM issue, I was hoping mine wouldn't be as noticeable (the lag).
I've been messing around with it, installing stuff, etc.. I've got a few questions though.
How can I disable the Wake On New SMS? The registry key isn't there and it's really bothering me.
I'd like to know how I can tweak it to run faster and less laggy, also. Considering the Wake on sms reg key wasn't on my VZW stock ROM, I didn't feel like bothering to look for other stuff because I didn't think it would be there.
Also, is there an extended battery for the VZW TP??
My battery did not last that long. It was down to around 20% after 15 hours (With slightly heavy use in the morning). Is there a battery that [preferably] doesn't need an extended back cover?
And how many of you would recommend returning mine and getting/hacking the Sprint one to work with Verizon? Is it a hard process? Doesn't seem it. i'm debating doing that, because this lag and stuff is just bull****.
Thanks in advance
I dont own a touch pro, but generally when windows doesn't have a reg key it'll default to some predetermined setting. So, my advice is to try creating the key and setting the sms setting you want. You have nothing to lose. If it doesnt work just delete the key you made.
Yeah I guess I'll try that later. Not really sure how.
I'm leaning towards getting the sprint one and switching it over to VZW.
Anyone know where/how I can get it for the, like, $300 I've seen? Or do I need to pay full $5xx for it?
Been reading this tutorial (link) on how to do it. People recommend using Live Search Cashback to get it in the $300s. Anyone have and info on what that actually is? Sorry for the noob-ish question, but I've never heard of Live Search Cashback before, lol.
Google is your friend.
I'm guessing this is what they refer to. http://search.live.com/cashback
Sweet! Thanks, I can't believe I never noticed this before. I'm sure I'll be using this a LOT now. Lol.
Well, thanks for that part.
Anyone have any feedback on using the sprint over vzw on vzw's network?
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Oh my God. The sprint has a white-ish silvery back and chrome sides.
NO WAY. NO.
That just completely turned my thoughts around on this.
Unless, can you switch out the faceplate for one with black instead of chrome and get a replacement black battery cover?
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I'm currently using Mogul but thinking about switching to the Touch, should I? your comments please...
I used the Touch for a few weeks and felt so lost without the keyboard. The extra ram is nice, but it is not worth the lack of a real keyboard, no wi-fi, and the screen is kind of annoying to look at. I ended up trading the Touch for another Mogul and I haven't looked back since.
If you don't need keyboard or WiFi or camera flash (or GPS, for now), then touch is better (smaller, more ram, better camera). Personally, I need Wifi, I like a keyboard, and I'd miss the camera flash. I've learned to live w/ the titan's RAM.
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If you don't need keyboard or WiFi or camera flash (or GPS, for now), then touch is better (smaller, more ram, better camera). Personally, I need Wifi, I like a keyboard, and I'd miss the camera flash. I've learned to live w/ the titan's RAM.
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I feel the same. But if they had a Titan with 128 mb, I would snatch it up. The touch is MUCH peppier.
The lack of Rev A and GPS on the touch (for VZW anyhow) will be remedied in short order, no doubt.
The camera flash... I dont know, not a big deal to me. I dont know of anyone who uses their phone as their primary camera anyhow.
Really it comes down to the keyboard. "Business users" such as myself probably need it. Everyone else can get away without having it much easier.
I run Intellisync to communicate to our email system at work. I do a lot of email from the phone. Therefore, anything without the keyboard loses a lot of functionality for me. Frankly, I think the Titan is one of the better CDMA phones with a keyboard. GSM may be a different story, but our GSM signal really sucks in our town (and it's not 3G yet either).
Thanks for the comments guys. Yet, I'm still pretty undecisive about the Touch for now. Thanks though
i carry both phones (one is personal, one is a touchpoint for alltel) and i can tell you that i love my 6800 much more than the touch. i think the community behind the 6800 is larger and has more groundbreaking work going on and i also would be lost without a keyboard. given, i have been getting better with typing on the touch, it just takes some getting used to. the speed increase is VERY noticable between the touch and the 6800. i never use wifi so that doesnt really bother me on the touch. in all actuality, if the keyboard is your point holding you back, pick up a bluetooth wireless laser keyboard for a hundred bucks. that would be the difference in price (actually it would be less than the difference for alltel) and would give you a keyboard for the touch.
but how inconvenient would it be to lug around a keyboard. *let me text somebody back and lug out my keyboard*
I have heard a lot of people comment that they now type faster with the touch than with the keyboard on the titan - as long as they install a 3rd party full screen dialer -
The extra ram and smaller size are really tempting to me and I think I am just about ready to swap to a vogue. The memory issues on the titan are really starting to annoy me.
This thread should be moved to the general titan forum.
1999TL:
I think he was referring to one of these:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193
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1999TL:
I think he was referring to one of these:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193
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that is exactly what i was thinking of. its no bigger than a cigarette box, it would easily fit in a purse or your pocket. heard mixed results about the performance, but i actually think ill be picking one up for my touch pretty soon.
I've got a touch, I'll trade anyone for a titan (telus network)
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I've got a touch, I'll trade anyone for a titan (telus network)
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this isnt a classified forum. in fact this thread was designed to help make the decision between the two so how about you chime in and clarify why you dont want the touch anymore and would prefer a titan. i think the readers of this thread would appreciate that.
also, and this is just to help you, the retail value on the touch is about 100 bucks short of the titan so you might want to throw in some cash value or accessories along with the touch if you want to make a trade on a forum that allows it.
One thing I really like about the titan besides kb and wifi is the real hardware buttons. I'm a tactile person, and need to feel the resistance of real keys under my fingers. Sure I could get used to a software keyboard, but it won't be as quick or as pleasurable an experience.
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One thing I really like about the titan besides kb and wifi is the real hardware buttons. I'm a tactile person, and need to feel the resistance of real keys under my fingers. Sure I could get used to a software keyboard, but it won't be as quick or as pleasurable an experience.
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Oh yes! I could no live without that. I use AE button plus and it's so convenient. the most convenient is being able to use the phone as a flastlight when it is dark.
I started out with the Titan on sprint used it for a couple days and wasn't happy with the build quality. Traded it for the touch, kept the touch for 2 weeks then ended back up with the titan.
The screen on the touch bugged me, the viewable area sucks. The battery was the biggest deal breaker though. After about 50 texts, an hour of browsing and possibly ten mins of phone calls it would be nearly dead.
Back with the titan now.
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I started out with the Titan on sprint used it for a couple days and wasn't happy with the build quality. Traded it for the touch, kept the touch for 2 weeks then ended back up with the titan.
The screen on the touch bugged me, the viewable area sucks. The battery was the biggest deal breaker though. After about 50 texts, an hour of browsing and possibly ten mins of phone calls it would be nearly dead.
Back with the titan now.
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The battery, from what you have said, would be a deal breaker for me. I don't care about the keyboard and was really thinking about the vogue for the smaller form factor. But I need at least 2 days out of the thing and from the sound of it the vogue wont cut it.
I have them both, just buy you an extra battery, and all is good, i did the same thing for my mogul, 2 batterys will get you through it.
i actually have not found a problem with my touch's battery life yet. it lasts all day for me with a constant data connection and some web browsing and phone calls. using opera 9.5, btw, its the only way to browse on the touch
First of all, I will start by mentioning that this is my third Touch Pro from Sprint and I just want to confirm something before I take back to the store.
Is there anyone else who updated to the newest official firmware and have problems with your video playback from your albums. I had some videos stored from my old phone on a sd, and when I try to play it on this phone, it would cause a lot of jagging, freezes, audio playing while video is not. I then recorded a video with the camcorder and when I went to play back, it did the same thing. The settings I have it in is in
-CIF 352x288
-MPEG4
If its the phone, then I'm glad because I can go get myself the Touch Pro 2 at the store for free.
Things to note,
-had no problem like this on the 2nd phone
-upgraded the firmware as soon as I got home with this phone
-been like this for a while, just never cared to get an answer until now
Any feedback to a similar problem or non-exsisting problem would be greatly appreciated.
Look, if your ultimate goal is to get a free TP2, then just tell them that the phone gets unholy hot or some defect from the phone itself (battery lasting less than half a day with moderate use, etc). Believe me that the TP from Sprint has a bunch of those... If you start going by software, believe me that they will find a way to either fix it or convince you that it can be fixed with an update...
were you getting a free tp2 due to these issues?? Because im having the same issues as well including that my battery gets extremely hot and will not charge
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were you getting a free tp2 due to these issues?? Because im having the same issues as well including that my battery gets extremely hot and will not charge
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I'm curious about this myself. I was gonna get a Hero in a couple of months when my contract is up, but if I get a TP2, I might hold out for a little while.
There is a list somewhere that after a certain date, if your phone is with in the manufacture warranty of 1 year, and you have insurance of both types with sprint, you can switch out the phone to a list of 10 other phones, the TP2 and the hero being among those.
Still a sure answer on this would be great. Thanks egz on some insight. And gxt, you mean you are having problems with video playback too?
So I think I'll be going to the sprint store tomorrow, I'll let you guys know how it goes, unless I don't go that is.
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So I think I'll be going to the sprint store tomorrow, I'll let you guys know how it goes, unless I don't go that is.
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im guessing you didnt go...?
Happy man said:
There is a list somewhere that after a certain date, if your phone is with in the manufacture warranty of 1 year, and you have insurance of both types with sprint, you can switch out the phone to a list of 10 other phones, the TP2 and the hero being among those.
Still a sure answer on this would be great. Thanks egz on some insight. And gxt, you mean you are having problems with video playback too?
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What insurance do you have to have? Where is this list?
My 2nd tp just crapped out on me and insurance just sent me a "new" one.
sherm420 said:
What insurance do you have to have? Where is this list?
My 2nd tp just crapped out on me and insurance just sent me a "new" one.
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to answer my own question...
http://slumz.boxden.com/f244/sprint-now-replacing-touch-pro-touch-pro-2-a-1295800/
im going to give this a shot.
Hello everybody(insert simpsons joke here), it looks like i finally went to the sprint store. After what seems like a lifetime ago, i told them the problems I had, they said they would do a hard reset, and to come back in an hour. An hour and a half later and I will be getting mnyself a touch pro 2 soon. Now the only bad part is that i need to call this store to find out when they would have any touch pro 2's in their warehouses. So at least for now, I am assed out, oh and forgive me if this comes off as bad grammer, I am typing this from my touch pro 1, the screen is too small.
im currently having issues with my panel. checking out multiple threads i finally come to a conclusion... my screen is giving out. there is a certain area where if pressed, i hear the screen creek a bit and i feel it dip in. im assuming this is the cause of my touch screen not responding in certain areas, because its not grounded all the way around. my dilemma is this:
1) its not that bad, so i could just use it till it gets worse
2) get a replacement for my phone
my issue with 2 is that im gonna get a refurbished phone.... ive always had issues with refurbs. i used to work for verizon and once people got a refurb, it was over. they couldnt get a working phone at all after that. a little help or insight on other possible options would be very helpful. thanks in advance guys!
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im currently having issues with my panel. checking out multiple threads i finally come to a conclusion... my screen is giving out. there is a certain area where if pressed, i hear the screen creek a bit and i feel it dip in. im assuming this is the cause of my touch screen not responding in certain areas, because its not grounded all the way around. my dilemma is this:
1) its not that bad, so i could just use it till it gets worse
2) get a replacement for my phone
my issue with 2 is that im gonna get a refurbished phone.... ive always had issues with refurbs. i used to work for verizon and once people got a refurb, it was over. they couldnt get a working phone at all after that. a little help or insight on other possible options would be very helpful. thanks in advance guys!
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If you decide to keep your phone, you can either have a cell phone shop fix it for you. You are looking around $100 - $140.
If you decide to fix it yourself, a screen kit goes online for around $30 - $50. That and if you've ever worked on a pc(preferably laptops), then this will just be like working on a smaller version. There are how to guides online as well as youtube videos.
Also, I heard from another member who's having their phone replaced that Verizon/Asurion are out of stock on Thunderbolts and will issue a comperable model(probably a charge or revolution).
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If you decide to keep your phone, you can either have a cell phone shop fix it for you. You are looking around $100 - $140.
If you decide to fix it yourself, a screen kit goes online for around $30 - $50. That and if you've ever worked on a pc(preferably laptops), then this will just be like working on a smaller version. There are how to guides online as well as youtube videos.
Also, I heard from another member who's having their phone replaced that Verizon/Asurion are out of stock on Thunderbolts and will issue a comperable model(probably a charge or revolution).
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thanks for the input...id rather just fix it myself or get it fixed at a shop...
NO WAY would i EVER touch a REVO or a Charge... bleh!
when i used to have sprint, they said they did screen replacements. anyone know if verizon service centers do the same?
Well, GOTTA LOVE THIS!
so i just spent about an hour and a half typing in a complete breakdown of everything i noticed about a new TP i had been deliberating on opening due to days of reading posts about the negatives and lo and behold I decide to open it and type a HUGE report about everything that I have noticed through the few hours i've had it working and i decided to yeah post it even adding "now watch as it deletes this whole thing" so i decide to CTRL+A and copy...
DONT DO THAT! apparantly it ONLY copies the outlying information not in this box where i'm typing now and when i tried to submit it, it says i'm not logged in... well i tried logging in and ctrl V and bam it gives me the top portion of the thread page FML first MAJOR issue with the damn tab is a PEBCAK but w/e we only learn from mistakes sometimes. i will be posting a long thread about the things that i've come across with this device for any people out there who are on the fence regarding this new TP with the current serial number in the champagne style.
sadly i'd covered GPS, WIFI, the docking station issues, serial number location, installed version of AOS, and about 6 other topics that my bloodpressure currently will not let me remember bleh.
so since this thread is for anyone with any questions on a C10KAS model with the champagne style keyboard please feel free to ask below. i will be typing up a new post and saving it on my asus laptop when i get time again later and try to cover all the topics i did in the original post.
This device has NOT been upgraded past the installed 3.2.1 and wont until all queries have been addressed so as to help the majority of the users and possible future users come to decissions before irreversible changes have occurred.
sorry to sound flaming a bit but man am i ticked that i actually TRIED to save the darn thing and it still backfired, but se la vie and such is my lot in life. now i'll try to post this and hopefully find that it works
Trying Again...
Running by the [Guide] by Danny-B- i'm going to open this thread for the community to have the opportunity to ask away about the new TP i decided to finally open after watching it sit ever so quietly on my home-office desk.
Light Bleed
I noticed a very small amount of light bleed, barely any that would concern anyone really, thankfully i'd say functionally it's on par with what it should be.
Dead Pixels
None noticeable on moderate searching.
Serial Number -found?
Yep, it has the serial number registered so that's a plus.
GPS Reception
Nope. I used the QR code to get GPS Test and it shows a working compass and tilt sensor but all the readouts stayed zeroes for the 25 minutes i left it to run. I only have "Use GPS Satellites" ticked off in the location menu to test this, but also have to take into account that the test was performed indoors due to the fact that it's been snowing and raining all day so that in itself could be why the GPS function didnt work... Will retest when the weather is clear and i can get a good sky view.
*edit* crystal clear day today, not a cloud in the sky, not a gram of gps connection. i really dont need this but at least i know that the gps definitely doesn't work.
Wifi Reception
MIFI located up to 60 feet from device, since device will be in my pocket most of the time, the device should have no problems finding the signal as it's going to be only a foot or two from the tablet. Didn't notice any lag or lapse in the connectivity, it still worked Words With Friends as far as i can tell and that's the only program i will have installed aside from the QR Droid program for the testing of these issues. I did notice that the wifi signal was good but the quality of the rendering of youtube left me hoping for more, but the weather can play a huge role in this so i'm not too concerned and i can try this out moreso on a day when there's less inclement weather.
Dock/Keyboard Connection
Have to mention that the dock i purchased prior to getting the TP and i was very lucky to have gotten matching (both champagne models) as i wasnt sure what kind of tab was coming in the mail seeing as how they were pretty much recalled from every store i'd visited.
On my first attempt i was a little wary seeing as how the keyboard didnt seem to like the champ model so as i opened the box i was thinking this can still be a partial deal-breaker so we'll see.
Try #1 it pressed in and i heard a ding from the machine. no cursor opened i use the touch screen to open up the notepad and i can type, all the buttons and numbers worked but no cursor... curses! I undocked it.
Try #2 it pressed in and i gave it a little bit more oomph to see if that would help and i heard a satisfying "click" the cursor appeared it worked and i tried typing all buttons functioned properly.
Try #3 same thing, little oomph, click, cursor. so for this one, the matching champ models function properly when i give it a little extra push in until i hear a slight click.
Gyroscope
Up, Down, Left, Right, B A Start... anyway, all the directions worked and it grades in the GPS Test program down to a 2-4 degree reading so i'm fairly certain i will not have any issues with this part of the device.
Battery Conditioning
I charged it for the 8 hours, then plugged in the keyboard during the testing phase and left it plugged in until the keyboard battery read full. I have yet to test the quality of the battery life with and without the keyboard but I will keep you informed if this seems to be an issue as opposed to a non-issue
*update* well the dock is the primary source of the energy as it's supposed to be and it's been in full use browsing this forum and posting for 3 hours and it has gone down by only 25% ... i currently am HIGHLY impressed with the battery life.
Haptic Feedback
I got a mallard. Yes, i was thinking how could this thing sound like a duck but lo and behold the first time i turned it on i heard an audible "quack" to put it bluntly. I dont see this bothering me in the long run unless the vibration against the case's rear housing causes an issue with other parts, though the only time that i've noticed any haptic vibration is when powering it on. I dont notice any when typing on the screen or making selections so that may be switched off in the settings, i honestly havent played with any of the settings yet since i have only tried getting through the [GUIDE] piece by piece trying out things.
Firmware Updates
I will not be updating this until any questions members have, have died out. I wanted to create this thread so that everyone has the chance to ask questions about the Champagne model out of the box that runs 3.2.1. I do plan on updating to ICS in the near future but I also wanted people to get an idea of what this unit did straight-away. This model's serial is the C10KAS and came from Texas through an Office Depot "gmill" warehouse... an "other than the normal" warehouse per the store manager... who i had to finesse to get her to really try to locate one of these guys fyi.
Summary
I feel that i touched on a few more notes when i originally typed in this thread, but for the life of me i can't remember anything else to put in here.
The tablet is very responsive, Words with Friends gets a slight lag from time to time, but i'm not too worried about any gaming issues since this will be a work-related device and gaming is just a bonus if done at all.
I did notice that there is a minor lag when typing here in this box on the tab but i think that is to be expected as i noticed similar on my RAZR MAXX, Galaxy Nexus, and 4s.
Please, feel free to ask any questions or make any comments regarding this post. I want it to be as informative as possible to any people who have questions about a new TP before they are pretty much impossible to get.
interesting new development with internet
ok so here's a strange new development i've just noticed...
ANY link i click on, even to get to a new page of threads or to click reply...
ALL of them suddenly switched from opening within the original tab and moving on to the new page to now opening a separate tab on their own. i haven't done anything new with the tab, this all started just while accessing these forums on their own. i've tried a long press on them and select OPEN instead of OPEN IN NEW TAB, but everything keeps opening in new tabs, now i'm full of tabs on my screen.
any ideas on this one? strange how it would just stop working the way it was and start working this way all on it's own while just browsing this site. idk, i'm open to any suggestions.
*update* after clearing the cache and cookies it seems to have fixed this issue. nothing opens in new tabs now... im guessing it can only store so much before it forces you to new tab everything. just an fyi to everyone
Must.... try... to... resist.... ....Too .....STRONG.....!!!!
Well at least I have to say there it is now a posted answer for everyone asking how the new primes are running they are running the same. I have the C10k******* and its running about the same if not worse than my old Gray model, that was sent back about a month ago, because of the same issues. They aint going to get any better until Asucks fixes them, bottom line. Yeah there might be some that run perfect but you are the "Lucky Few" believe that. Us guys with the "this don't work models, were just screwed". well not actually I'm sending mine back and trying again. Or you can or deal with that issue that your prime has.
Mine has slight light bleed and poor WiFi, should I keep it? Still debating I got 14 days. But like I said in another post these will probably be easy refurbs to pick up soon. Asus probably has a full warehouse full of returned units, I believe my last unit I bought brand new sealed in box was a returned unit, I don't believe they are allowed to do this but I think they do in MY opinion. I don't think they are going to let a tablet that looks brand spanking new with just a WiFi issue sit there. lose $100-200 selling it as refurbished.
I believe they are boxing them back out and selling them as new. You wouldn't be able to tell, would you? All they got to do is clean it up real nice restore it put in new box, shrink wrap it again and, there are 100 brand new ones shipping to Best Buy as new. Then maybe they will get lucky and the person really doesn't know much about it, when they get it and they like it some much, it looks stunning, they can get a good signal in their bedroom, so they keep it. I'm telling you they are doing shady ****. Look at how they are treating us, a big F-U.
I know people who are giving it right back to them buying every model they find at the store if it doesn't work PERFECT. They are taking it back I know people that are on model 6 or 7 at least 5 or 6 people.
Where are all their refurbs selling at? I bet their return pile looks like a junkyard, That aint even funny for real. Asucks used to be a good company. They don't hold up to their standards anymore.
ASUS
JUST IN CASE SOMEONE FROM ASUCKS COMES BY, I IMAGINE THEY DO, WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH THIS TABLET.
I THINK SOMEONE LIKE TEGRA OR GOOGLE ANDROID SHOULD BE ON THEIR ASS FOR THIS, REALLY TEGRA SHOULD BE MAD AS HELL.
JUST FIX THE PRIMES DO WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING, ITS THE BEST OPTION. IF NOT YOUR JUNKYARD IS GOING TO GET BIGGER AND BIGGER. AND DON'T BE SELLING ME SOMEONE ELSE'S USED SH*T, AS BRAND NEW.
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ASUS
JUST IN CASE SOMEONE FROM ASUCKS COMES BY, I IMAGINE THEY DO, WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH THIS TABLET.
I THINK SOMEONE LIKE TEGRA OR GOOGLE ANDROID SHOULD BE ON THEIR ASS FOR THIS, REALLY TEGRA SHOULD BE MAD AS HELL.
JUST FIX THE PRIMES DO WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING, ITS THE BEST OPTION. IF NOT YOUR JUNKYARD IS GOING TO GET BIGGER AND BIGGER. AND DON'T BE SELLING ME SOMEONE ELSE'S USED SH*T, AS BRAND NEW.
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Erm, it's nVidia (or tegra as you seem to want to call them) that are providing the code that is f#cking up the Prime. Just thought you should know.
Where is the toggle for the awful 'pocket mode'? On N10 it came up when searching the settings, on N20 there's "no results", and I've looked through all of the settings 3 times.
Am I blind?
The answer was already here...
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The answer was already here...
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Thanks, but those files are not on phone (in that location anyway). Either way it's past the point of compromise, if I wanted forced "features" I'd be using a ****ing iphone. I shoulda took the hint when they forced your clock to become red whenever there's a ****ing "1" on it. **** company. It'll be on eBay if anyone wants it.
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Thanks, but those files are not on phone (in that location anyway). Either way it's past the point of compromise, if I wanted forced "features" I'd be using a ****ing iphone. I shoulda took the hint when they forced your clock to become red whenever there's a ****ing "1" on it. **** company. It'll be on eBay if anyone wants it.
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Yeah, it didn't look too pretty. That be a big deal for me. There may be other solutions though. Finding work arounds generally takes time... one reason I almost never update or upgrade the software/firmware. I have almost no issues even after 2.5 years. It's 99.9% playtime, now.
One reason I run Galaxy N10+'s is I like One UI customization, at least for Android 9, 10 is more troublesome, 11 even more so and 12 is a mess. I can't really recommend any of the Samsung flagships after the N10+; lacking features, not well balanced or designed or power efficient and expensive. Sammy didn't $kip on the price tag