Well, GOTTA LOVE THIS!
so i just spent about an hour and a half typing in a complete breakdown of everything i noticed about a new TP i had been deliberating on opening due to days of reading posts about the negatives and lo and behold I decide to open it and type a HUGE report about everything that I have noticed through the few hours i've had it working and i decided to yeah post it even adding "now watch as it deletes this whole thing" so i decide to CTRL+A and copy...
DONT DO THAT! apparantly it ONLY copies the outlying information not in this box where i'm typing now and when i tried to submit it, it says i'm not logged in... well i tried logging in and ctrl V and bam it gives me the top portion of the thread page FML first MAJOR issue with the damn tab is a PEBCAK but w/e we only learn from mistakes sometimes. i will be posting a long thread about the things that i've come across with this device for any people out there who are on the fence regarding this new TP with the current serial number in the champagne style.
sadly i'd covered GPS, WIFI, the docking station issues, serial number location, installed version of AOS, and about 6 other topics that my bloodpressure currently will not let me remember bleh.
so since this thread is for anyone with any questions on a C10KAS model with the champagne style keyboard please feel free to ask below. i will be typing up a new post and saving it on my asus laptop when i get time again later and try to cover all the topics i did in the original post.
This device has NOT been upgraded past the installed 3.2.1 and wont until all queries have been addressed so as to help the majority of the users and possible future users come to decissions before irreversible changes have occurred.
sorry to sound flaming a bit but man am i ticked that i actually TRIED to save the darn thing and it still backfired, but se la vie and such is my lot in life. now i'll try to post this and hopefully find that it works
Trying Again...
Running by the [Guide] by Danny-B- i'm going to open this thread for the community to have the opportunity to ask away about the new TP i decided to finally open after watching it sit ever so quietly on my home-office desk.
Light Bleed
I noticed a very small amount of light bleed, barely any that would concern anyone really, thankfully i'd say functionally it's on par with what it should be.
Dead Pixels
None noticeable on moderate searching.
Serial Number -found?
Yep, it has the serial number registered so that's a plus.
GPS Reception
Nope. I used the QR code to get GPS Test and it shows a working compass and tilt sensor but all the readouts stayed zeroes for the 25 minutes i left it to run. I only have "Use GPS Satellites" ticked off in the location menu to test this, but also have to take into account that the test was performed indoors due to the fact that it's been snowing and raining all day so that in itself could be why the GPS function didnt work... Will retest when the weather is clear and i can get a good sky view.
*edit* crystal clear day today, not a cloud in the sky, not a gram of gps connection. i really dont need this but at least i know that the gps definitely doesn't work.
Wifi Reception
MIFI located up to 60 feet from device, since device will be in my pocket most of the time, the device should have no problems finding the signal as it's going to be only a foot or two from the tablet. Didn't notice any lag or lapse in the connectivity, it still worked Words With Friends as far as i can tell and that's the only program i will have installed aside from the QR Droid program for the testing of these issues. I did notice that the wifi signal was good but the quality of the rendering of youtube left me hoping for more, but the weather can play a huge role in this so i'm not too concerned and i can try this out moreso on a day when there's less inclement weather.
Dock/Keyboard Connection
Have to mention that the dock i purchased prior to getting the TP and i was very lucky to have gotten matching (both champagne models) as i wasnt sure what kind of tab was coming in the mail seeing as how they were pretty much recalled from every store i'd visited.
On my first attempt i was a little wary seeing as how the keyboard didnt seem to like the champ model so as i opened the box i was thinking this can still be a partial deal-breaker so we'll see.
Try #1 it pressed in and i heard a ding from the machine. no cursor opened i use the touch screen to open up the notepad and i can type, all the buttons and numbers worked but no cursor... curses! I undocked it.
Try #2 it pressed in and i gave it a little bit more oomph to see if that would help and i heard a satisfying "click" the cursor appeared it worked and i tried typing all buttons functioned properly.
Try #3 same thing, little oomph, click, cursor. so for this one, the matching champ models function properly when i give it a little extra push in until i hear a slight click.
Gyroscope
Up, Down, Left, Right, B A Start... anyway, all the directions worked and it grades in the GPS Test program down to a 2-4 degree reading so i'm fairly certain i will not have any issues with this part of the device.
Battery Conditioning
I charged it for the 8 hours, then plugged in the keyboard during the testing phase and left it plugged in until the keyboard battery read full. I have yet to test the quality of the battery life with and without the keyboard but I will keep you informed if this seems to be an issue as opposed to a non-issue
*update* well the dock is the primary source of the energy as it's supposed to be and it's been in full use browsing this forum and posting for 3 hours and it has gone down by only 25% ... i currently am HIGHLY impressed with the battery life.
Haptic Feedback
I got a mallard. Yes, i was thinking how could this thing sound like a duck but lo and behold the first time i turned it on i heard an audible "quack" to put it bluntly. I dont see this bothering me in the long run unless the vibration against the case's rear housing causes an issue with other parts, though the only time that i've noticed any haptic vibration is when powering it on. I dont notice any when typing on the screen or making selections so that may be switched off in the settings, i honestly havent played with any of the settings yet since i have only tried getting through the [GUIDE] piece by piece trying out things.
Firmware Updates
I will not be updating this until any questions members have, have died out. I wanted to create this thread so that everyone has the chance to ask questions about the Champagne model out of the box that runs 3.2.1. I do plan on updating to ICS in the near future but I also wanted people to get an idea of what this unit did straight-away. This model's serial is the C10KAS and came from Texas through an Office Depot "gmill" warehouse... an "other than the normal" warehouse per the store manager... who i had to finesse to get her to really try to locate one of these guys fyi.
Summary
I feel that i touched on a few more notes when i originally typed in this thread, but for the life of me i can't remember anything else to put in here.
The tablet is very responsive, Words with Friends gets a slight lag from time to time, but i'm not too worried about any gaming issues since this will be a work-related device and gaming is just a bonus if done at all.
I did notice that there is a minor lag when typing here in this box on the tab but i think that is to be expected as i noticed similar on my RAZR MAXX, Galaxy Nexus, and 4s.
Please, feel free to ask any questions or make any comments regarding this post. I want it to be as informative as possible to any people who have questions about a new TP before they are pretty much impossible to get.
interesting new development with internet
ok so here's a strange new development i've just noticed...
ANY link i click on, even to get to a new page of threads or to click reply...
ALL of them suddenly switched from opening within the original tab and moving on to the new page to now opening a separate tab on their own. i haven't done anything new with the tab, this all started just while accessing these forums on their own. i've tried a long press on them and select OPEN instead of OPEN IN NEW TAB, but everything keeps opening in new tabs, now i'm full of tabs on my screen.
any ideas on this one? strange how it would just stop working the way it was and start working this way all on it's own while just browsing this site. idk, i'm open to any suggestions.
*update* after clearing the cache and cookies it seems to have fixed this issue. nothing opens in new tabs now... im guessing it can only store so much before it forces you to new tab everything. just an fyi to everyone
Must.... try... to... resist.... ....Too .....STRONG.....!!!!
Well at least I have to say there it is now a posted answer for everyone asking how the new primes are running they are running the same. I have the C10k******* and its running about the same if not worse than my old Gray model, that was sent back about a month ago, because of the same issues. They aint going to get any better until Asucks fixes them, bottom line. Yeah there might be some that run perfect but you are the "Lucky Few" believe that. Us guys with the "this don't work models, were just screwed". well not actually I'm sending mine back and trying again. Or you can or deal with that issue that your prime has.
Mine has slight light bleed and poor WiFi, should I keep it? Still debating I got 14 days. But like I said in another post these will probably be easy refurbs to pick up soon. Asus probably has a full warehouse full of returned units, I believe my last unit I bought brand new sealed in box was a returned unit, I don't believe they are allowed to do this but I think they do in MY opinion. I don't think they are going to let a tablet that looks brand spanking new with just a WiFi issue sit there. lose $100-200 selling it as refurbished.
I believe they are boxing them back out and selling them as new. You wouldn't be able to tell, would you? All they got to do is clean it up real nice restore it put in new box, shrink wrap it again and, there are 100 brand new ones shipping to Best Buy as new. Then maybe they will get lucky and the person really doesn't know much about it, when they get it and they like it some much, it looks stunning, they can get a good signal in their bedroom, so they keep it. I'm telling you they are doing shady ****. Look at how they are treating us, a big F-U.
I know people who are giving it right back to them buying every model they find at the store if it doesn't work PERFECT. They are taking it back I know people that are on model 6 or 7 at least 5 or 6 people.
Where are all their refurbs selling at? I bet their return pile looks like a junkyard, That aint even funny for real. Asucks used to be a good company. They don't hold up to their standards anymore.
ASUS
JUST IN CASE SOMEONE FROM ASUCKS COMES BY, I IMAGINE THEY DO, WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH THIS TABLET.
I THINK SOMEONE LIKE TEGRA OR GOOGLE ANDROID SHOULD BE ON THEIR ASS FOR THIS, REALLY TEGRA SHOULD BE MAD AS HELL.
JUST FIX THE PRIMES DO WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING, ITS THE BEST OPTION. IF NOT YOUR JUNKYARD IS GOING TO GET BIGGER AND BIGGER. AND DON'T BE SELLING ME SOMEONE ELSE'S USED SH*T, AS BRAND NEW.
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ASUS
JUST IN CASE SOMEONE FROM ASUCKS COMES BY, I IMAGINE THEY DO, WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH THIS TABLET.
I THINK SOMEONE LIKE TEGRA OR GOOGLE ANDROID SHOULD BE ON THEIR ASS FOR THIS, REALLY TEGRA SHOULD BE MAD AS HELL.
JUST FIX THE PRIMES DO WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING, ITS THE BEST OPTION. IF NOT YOUR JUNKYARD IS GOING TO GET BIGGER AND BIGGER. AND DON'T BE SELLING ME SOMEONE ELSE'S USED SH*T, AS BRAND NEW.
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Erm, it's nVidia (or tegra as you seem to want to call them) that are providing the code that is f#cking up the Prime. Just thought you should know.
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I felt very fortunate last week when HHgreg apparently priced the prime incorrectly for $399.00. I immediately ordered one online and my local store had it in stock. First thing I did when I opened it up was to check for the ICS update and it started downloading it. My battery was at about 27% when the update started downloading and at around 20% when I attempted to install. After the install was complete I had the same issue as many others in that the screen banding was happening and so I called HHgreg to see if I could exchange it. The reason I mention battery % was that I had read somewhere that if the update was completed on a low battery that it could cause the issue that I experienced. They had one more in stock and allowed me to exchange. The next one I received was one with the serial number issue that would not even recognize there was an update available. I am now waiting on my third tablet to arrive but wandering if I should keep it. I hate to take it back seeing I got it for 349.00 after the 50.00 coupon but I dont see to many comments of people who are having no issues and are completely satisfied with the tablet. Please comment if its possible to have a prime that is functioning properly.
I also purchased my TP from HHgregg for 399. but i waited before I upgraded to ICS. I was nearly charged or i might have been fully charged. But the only Issue is my gps. wifi works from 35- 40 feet from the router anlong with my other 3 device's I use in my house. Been playing agry birds for hours not problem at all. Only once did it show that Baning issue when I started using the camera after the 4th picture it started. I shut the app down and restarted the prime. No problems using the camera app again so far. Never had a screen issue either. Ialso tested the wifi with my home router and my htc sensation how spot. both work fine.
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I felt very fortunate last week when HHgreg apparently priced the prime incorrectly for $399.00. I immediately ordered one online and my local store had it in stock. First thing I did when I opened it up was to check for the ICS update and it started downloading it. My battery was at about 27% when the update started downloading and at around 20% when I attempted to install. After the install was complete I had the same issue as many others in that the screen banding was happening and so I called HHgreg to see if I could exchange it. The reason I mention battery % was that I had read somewhere that if the update was completed on a low battery that it could cause the issue that I experienced. They had one more in stock and allowed me to exchange. The next one I received was one with the serial number issue that would not even recognize there was an update available. I am now waiting on my third tablet to arrive but wandering if I should keep it. I hate to take it back seeing I got it for 349.00 after the 50.00 coupon but I dont see to many comments of people who are having no issues and are completely satisfied with the tablet. Please comment if its possible to have a prime that is functioning properly.
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I love mine, it works BETTER after ICS and it's your own fault you got impatient and borked your first one. Us with working Primes don't come on here and *****.
We just watch everyone else and try to help when we can. Maybe it's karma that the second one didn't work...cuz you screwed up your first one.
So respect the equipment. Either way if you wait or don't, it's a nice tablet.
willowwave,
your probably right , I was very anxious to update because I've been using an Acer Iconia for a couple of months now and was really looking forward to the update. Has nothing to do with respect for the equipment, whatever that would mean, just didn't know it would cause an issue with the update. Really I'm not trying to *****, I've just read so much negative and not enough positive about the tablet. Thanks for your letting me know that yours is working perfectly. By the way, I do not believe in Karma, I would say its more likely providence.
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I love mine, it works BETTER after ICS and it's your own fault you got impatient and borked your first one. Us with working Primes don't come on here and *****.
We just watch everyone else and try to help when we can. Maybe it's karma that the second one didn't work...cuz you screwed up your first one.
So respect the equipment. Either way if you wait or don't, it's a nice tablet.
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It's not his fault that he got two units that wouldn't update correctly. While it's true that it's best practice to do upgrades either plugged into the mains or fully charged, if the tablet didn't actually run out of charge in the middle of the update I don't see how that could affect anything.
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willowwave,
your probably right , I was very anxious to update because I've been using an Acer Iconia for a couple of months now and was really looking forward to the update. Has nothing to do with respect for the equipment, whatever that would mean, just didn't know it would cause an issue with the update. Really I'm not trying to *****, I've just read so much negative and not enough positive about the tablet. Thanks for your letting me know that yours is working perfectly. By the way, I do not believe in Karma, I would say its more likely providence.
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Todd don't listen to him you did nothing wrong I updated to ICS as soon as I got my new one from HHGrregg with 20% battery life and it works perfectly fine with no lockups something is different in some Primes making this happen we just don't know what that is until Asus owns up to it.
PrimeTimeBro, thats good to hear, I really want to keep the device but unfortunately I've received two bugged devices. Hope that the next one is solid.
I had no problems with my TP during or after ICS install. There are other problems - but they had nothing to do with the firmware update.
No problems here.....other than dropping off my desk and cracking the screen in 2 places.
DAMN IT ALL TO HELL!!!!!!
Not your fault.....you just got 2 bad ones. I updated mine at 20% and have had no issues. Just return it and get one that works.....350 is still a lot to pay for a tablet that can't be updated.
I have returned two as well. Both had screen issues. I am still hoping to get a good one. I ordered two just in case this time from best buy. If i get 4 bad tablets I'm not sure what I will do... I really wish another company had the nice matching docks. I suppose i would continue this until either best buy bans me from buying more or the tf700 is released and i start the process over.
Don't worry, you will get one. Just keep returning them if there is problems. Asus will not tighten qc if people keep problem tablets. I am sure they directly correlate the % they accept as defective during manufacture to the number of returns they get.
I've yet to notice any problems with mine caused by the update. The only problem is that GPS still doesn't work lol but I wasn't expecting it to be fixed either.
EDIT: Forgot to mention the GPS works with WiFi, stuffs, but I can't connect to any satellites. Nothing new lol.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using XDA Premium.
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I have returned two as well. Both had screen issues. I am still hoping to get a good one. I ordered two just in case this time from best buy. If i get 4 bad tablets I'm not sure what I will do... I really wish another company had the nice matching docks. I suppose i would continue this until either best buy bans me from buying more or the tf700 is released and i start the process over.
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Rofl this is classic I like your thinking
Fully Functional since day 1 with honeycomb. Still fully functional after ICS. WIFI is fine and GPS is shocking. Apart from a slight back light bleed in top right corner everything is great.
I feel sooo fortunate that i have a working Prime after reading pretty much every thread dedicated too faulty devices.
My name is Optimus Prime and I send this message..
one works great before and after the update. if you wanna read more about good devices, just read the Positive Transformer thread on General section.
Gotta admit, you're pretty nice and all, giving Asus so many chances.
I received a Champagne gold unit from Amazon, charged the battery up, connected to my Wifi and got the ICS update notification.
It loaded with zero problems and I have had no problems with it since then.
I cannot say if my TP has GPS issues because I have no expectation of using GPS on a Wifi only product. (.02)
No probs here just had one reboot using some app cant remember what
Just got to get a good case and protector from uk
I did have a few lock ups and random reboots after ICS, but a factory rest took care of all that. No issues anymore.
i still havent updated my hhgregg to ICS due to some games not running correctly. one of which is dead space. Once i finish that then i will probably update and hope i dont run into any issues.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
Bought a 32gb grey prime, serial starting with BCOK from Office Depot. I'm noticing that I hardly ever get more than 2/3 the signal of the computers in my house, and no GPS (as expected). Lately I have seen from this forum that SOME people are getting C1 serial number primes and are reporting that their wifi is great and that their GPS is fully functional (something that people seem to have all but given up on).
The quality seems to vary from prime to prime, but at least people are reporting perfectly functional tf201 primes out there.
Any thoughts on whether I should start playing the return game until I get the perfect one? Observed any trends in what company seems to be selling the better primes?
Note: First xda post- after the forum intro video, I must that you be nice to me if this seems to be a silly question to ask on here
Maybe try this fix. Might work might not...or might just be temp.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467964
otherwise if you can get an exchange right away I would exchange it. Or return it and buy another one if you see it somewhere else.
Does your wifi work? Yes, just not as strong as other computers in your house. Do you really need the GPS? Probably not, but you paid for it.
I think the return game just screws it up for others that really are looking to get their hands on a Prime but can't because of all the useless returns. Yes, some people have issues, but I'm sure 90% of the returns are pointless.
Looking into the fix aznmode . Currently combing the forums to see if I can get exact measurements as to where I should squeeze. I am unsure about the envelope method across the whole top of the screen, as I have no clue what else is under there (mind I am still researching).
I completely respect your stance 05GT. As I get the time, I am testing my wifi in different conditions, and am steadily developing an opinion as to whether this is going to be a real problem with me. Naturally, it just feels safer to have a more efficient machine, since these devices are so exclusively integrated with the internet. With my college lifestyle jumping from network to network it may be, might not. Its why I plan on dragging my trial period out a little longer to see if I can just get on with my device or if a fix will spring up.
I've tested a BC Prime, made in December. And Asus sent me a C1 Prime made in January. With the exception of a tiny bit of light bleed on the C1, they seemed identical.
mt6272 said:
Looking into the fix aznmode . Currently combing the forums to see if I can get exact measurements as to where I should squeeze. I am unsure about the envelope method across the whole top of the screen, as I have no clue what else is under there (mind I am still researching).
I completely respect your stance 05GT. As I get the time, I am testing my wifi in different conditions, and am steadily developing an opinion as to whether this is going to be a real problem with me. Naturally, it just feels safer to have a more efficient machine, since these devices are so exclusively integrated with the internet. With my college lifestyle jumping from network to network it may be, might not. Its why I plan on dragging my trial period out a little longer to see if I can just get on with my device or if a fix will spring up.
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In your tests, it may be good to use wifi analyzer mentioned in that video. It's actually very useful in determining how well your device picks up wifi around you. I have another tablet I compare mine to and for the most part they're almost the same. I do notice from time to time my other tablet will have slightly longer reach as it can pick up 1 more wifi than the prime but its a very weak signal so I just discount it.
Such a first world problem hey? Kinda disgusting... No one wants a bad unit, im not judging anyone but some people can't even get their hands on one.
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Such a first world problem hey? Kinda disgusting... No one wants a bad unit, im not judging anyone but some people can't even get their hands on one.
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So we should be happy we have units that see no GPS satellites and have intermittently non-functional vibration motors because at least we have a prime? Right. That's just stupid.
No WiFi issues on my TF201-B1-CG, WiFi is great on this thing. GPS is a hit or miss for me.
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So we should be happy we have units that see no GPS satellites and have intermittently non-functional vibration motors because at least we have a prime? Right. That's just stupid.
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Vibration motors work fine, go to market, and download a vibrator app and test it. I'm sure with custom roms it will be fixed. As for GPS well you could just use your phone or if you really want to use it on a tablet just wait for the next android tablet to hit the market instead of complaining and complaining.
I thought I would follow up on my situation. My last day to return my prime is tomorrow.
I have done more extensive wifi testing, and I can conclude that the wifi is just weak. Close to the router it gets 2/3 signal. On the other side of the house where my sisters computer is getting 24mb/s, my prime is getting 1 mb/s.
Against my every wish ( everything else on the tablet is wonderful) , I am returning tomorrow. Good wifi is just something I need. Every store around is sold out on primes
So, what I will do is get a replacement tablet until ASUS gets things together ( best buy has a generous 45 day return policy).
As a college student, what will be a good replacement?
I was looking at the htc flyer ( a low end price replacement) or the lenovo thinkpad 1838 ( a higher end replacement..) as they both seem to have responsive touch screens that are good for writing. Would anyone recommend one of these, or something else within this price range for me?
Hi,
Im new to this forum but I thought I would get everybodys opinion. Im on my 3rd Prime and by far the best sample out of 3 that I have had. My return window closes on Wednesday. My first two were unacceptable with several dead pixels and light bleed. This 3rd one has almost no light bleed, no dead pixels, and works great besides the software hiccups with all of them. But my almost the whole bottom half maybe a 3rd of the way up has a slight yellow tinge to it. Its not noticable unless you are really comparing top to bottom but once you do notice its apparent. Does anybody know if this is a adhesive drying issue? If not should I deal with it and keep or save my $500 for something better down the road?
It really up to you, can you live with it? Or is it one of those things that since youve noticed it, its the only thing you see? And how confident and patient are you with the software hiccups?
For me I went throught 3 primes... actually almost 4 but I canceled the last shipment to get my money back. I didnt want to kick myself in the ass if I settled for a tablet with so many issues. I really expected to buy a tablet that I dont have to worry about. The TF201 looked very good on the prerelease, but when made available to the public it had so many ranges in performance (The good, the bad, and the ugly). You may have a decent working tablet but with the firmware upgrades you dont know if its gonna help or do nothing or even make it worse. Then we have 2 other primes coming out (TF300 and TF700) and probably other brands with comparable specs. I chose to saving my 500 for something I can be satisfied with. I tasted the TF201 and I think I can wait for to spend my money on a diff. tablet.
I'd say go for another exchange. I wouldn't accept a yellow tint to bottom half of screen. Even if everything else works fine. By the way, what's the first 3 numbers of the serial? To see if this is from the newer batch or older ones. They are good ones out there, like mines which I got way back 12/22 from an early batch.
I kind of feel the same why. I love the thing but we have an iPad 2 i can't help but to compare it to. I'm an android guy and my wife is Apple but in the tablet case android is looking to be a hard sell. What do you think about the gaming? That's my biggest worry, i feel like the next gen tegras will be out before they come out with more than a handful of games.
I have a bco serial number. This is the third one and it was from a fresh shipment on Jan 30th to best buy. Also the only bad thing about an exchange is once again they are out of stock everywhere and if i got one that was in the last bit inferior to the one I have I think that would be the last straw for me.
We have an ipad2 that my 2 yr old daughter uses. I think the tegra 3 is great for the gaming aspect, I gonna stick with android but I am gonna wait till other tegra 3 tablets come out with less problems.
Keep trying. It took me 4 tries and finally found one with ZERO issues. Your more then likely to get the newest batch now. Received mine 2 days ago. imo its worth it. It's a hassle but thats what we get for being early adopters.
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You don't think any of the future tablets would be worth waiting a couple of months
Just wait.. you have the ipad2 to keep you occupied for the meantime.
Well the only bad thing is my wife hogs the iPad and I've gotten used to having my own tablet lol
Hey mxracer327, can you tell me if your gps works? I have a bco serial number too. My wifi seems to be on par with my phone (motorola atrix) however my gps gets 0 satalites inside (havnt tested outside however my phone gets about 5-6 from the same area of the house.
Return it. Whatever returns the original place you bought it from receives they ship it back to Asus as defective. We can't just sit back and accept the imperfections they've been sending these tf201's out with. Send Asus a message that they really need to up their quality control if they are going to keep us as consumers!
Lhoki i tried gps indoors or doesn't seem to pick up any sattelites but i do nothave a need for a gps on my tablet but that doesn't mean it still shouldn't work. Caaz, im thinking I will probably return it and give up on the prime
i feel the same mxracer, i have no use for gps but yeah it should still work as iv paid full price for a product, its not that id ever use gps, and if i did id just use my phone instead, its more the principal
Just read through too many threads and now in a state of OVERLOAD! lol... Anyway, I just ordered my new transformer prime (2/11/12) and it should be here on Tuesday.
My question is, "Are the new Primes, that are rolling out now with 4.0 installed from factory, having all these issues with WiFi / Bluetooth and GPS"? All the posts i have read seam to be user upgrade issues.
Sorry if i am wrong and posted a duplicate thread. I am alllll frazzled now and was really looking forward to my $$$ Prime purchase
Thanks,
Lee
Most likely it will be the same for you, I hope not, but its not software related. Its hardware related causing the problems with the prime.
Ah man, what a huge bummer. So it's pretty much hit or miss? Some people getting lucky having no issues? I have read a few good posts (cant remember url, maybe here), that some market apps were causing system crashes like Google + and Google Maps. I guess those issues are not related to Wifi / GPS, but are causing system instability and such. Well, my plan will be to first use the tab as is for a while before installing anything. See how it runs bare bones, etc... I will rely heavily on Wifi... Is the Wifi issue only when paired with keyboard (BT), or all the time? I was so psyched for this thing, now bummin...
The WiFi issue is all the time for me. The WiFi never drops completely out it just doesn't do very good like the signal is about half of my cell phone that's why I don't like it. I can hardly get a signal upstairs it drops to 1 bar. I haven't even tried it paired but I do see it paid to DTVBluetooth I don't even know what it is, Probably my Samsung 51" 3D? matter of fact I'm about to Google that, you just reminded me of that. I got a lot of electronics in my man cave so it hard to tell what DTVBluetooth is? I was going to check into this before but forgot.
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well mine came with honeycomb and after reading many boos about upgraded problems i'm half sorry to say that i wish mine came with ics already on it, though if that were the case it'd have been a different model and might have had worse issues than a non working gps only.
i can happily sacrifice working gps for the ability to say everything else i've tested works very well.
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I haven't even tried it paired but I do see it paid to DTVBluetooth I don't even know what it is, Probably my Samsung 51" 3D? matter of fact I'm about to Google that, you just reminded me of that. I got a lot of electronics in my man cave so it hard to tell what DTVBluetooth is? I was going to check into this before but forgot.
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Thanks for the replys, i will keep you posted. Tab should be here tomorrow...
slight thread hijack. My wife is going to new York (live in Edinburgh) in a month and was thinking of getting her to get me an ATP. Is there any reason not to have a US prime in the UK?
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Not sure, but i would definitely look into the UK receiving an unlocked boot loader in the near future. I cant remember where I saw it on the net, but def. did. That's the word, and if it's true, do NOT buy one from N.Y. Wait for the unlocked boot L.
Newer Prime's should have better QC and less issues per unit produced but in the end based on my experiences here. Also note well that they're not going to change the entire tablet.
At the idea of a US Prime in the UK....my US model has English (United Kingdom) available in the Language & Input settings so I think it should work fine, as long as you get a UK dock instead of an American one. Not sure how it would impact firmware updates though but should be fine if you don't mind whatever has already come across for people with update issues.
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I bought my tablet about two weeks ago at best buy and I'm happy to report no issues with my tablet. The build of it was good. No light bleeding unless you press down hard where the lights are on the side and I have not seen a WiFi issue yet.
Over all, I've been happy with my tablet and I didn't even know it had issues till I started reading the Transformer prime section for this tablet on XDA. +1 for the TP.
I got my Prime on 2/8 from Best Buy. I didn't take any OTA's until I rooted using Viper's tool. After rooting, I updated to ICS. I have had no issues with wifi. I get signal and it doesn't drop for me. Haven't tried GPS but I am not all that concerned about it. Just waiting for the bootloader to be unlocked and custom roms to come out!
I can't seem to find anyone who has these in stock via local B&M retailers nor online. Guess the price to be paid for being popular is inability to keep pace with demand.
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I can't seem to find anyone who has these in stock via local B&M retailers nor online. Guess the price to be paid for being popular is inability to keep pace with demand.
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OfficeDepot appears to have the Transformer Prime in stock.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/906853/ASUS-Eee-Pad-Transformer-Prime-TF201/
If you order it, I would suggest you pick up a 2nd charger as well and save on shipping.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/768723/ASUS-Power-Adapter-For-Eee-Pad/
I ordered mine from Office depot. Got it in about a week with standard shipping. However, I am heavily considering sending mine back. There are spongy spots on the edges of my tablet on all four sides.
Also, they pack HORRIBLY... I received my tablet in a manila envelope with only one side bubble wrapped. The Envelope was beaten to heck and back and my box was pretty badly beaten up as well. Not sure if that may have been the cause of the sponyness on the screen or if tons of other people are noticing that as well.
Otherwise, I have not had a problem with ANY other part of my tablet. Wifi is strong and the ICS update went perfectly.
I have ordered from Office Depot multiple times and I haven't had any problems. I didn't order my tablet (got it from Bestbuy) but I have ordered a bunch of accessories and such and they all came reasonably well packed.
Received my new Prime today 2/13. My second one. It's a C1, came with HC and as soon as I logged on to my network it wanted to update. I let it and it did one update and showed ICS 4.03 build 9.4.2.13. So apparently they've rolled all the updates into one for new devices. Then I got the small camera update and that was all. I'm letting it charge and am almost afraid to go into another room to test the wifi.
Thanks, but did check OD and they're showing out of stock.
Interesting - NewEgg had been listing it as "out of stock" but is now marked as discontinued or specifically "Deactivated. This item is currently out of stock and it may or may not be restocked."
bought mine a month ago, came with HC, upgraded right out of the box to ICS and my wifi and blue tooth work great. GPS is spotty, but only tested once as i dont use it for that. I stream HD videos over wifi while using bluetooth headphones all the time and have not once had an issue.
Well, got mine today from BB. The order took a week. Rep said they had a shipment coming in anyway. When i picked it up this morning, i asked how many they had and she said, "None now", lol. Some shipment! Just mine... Anyway, right out of the box the firmware update started. I didn't run it yet, guess im a little nervous. So far the tablet is super sweet! Glad to report, no issues at all
Lfnsr, I didn't know we could root and still update OTA..? That's awesome man. what's the deal with that? I must have been left in the dark the past year. My only experience with Android in general is with my Droid X. Of course i had that thing tweaked, so i do have some exp. Any info you have pertaining to TP, rooting, updating etc... would be greatly appreciated.
Bgm307, How is everything since the ICS update? Honeycomb is running so good, i'm afraid to update....?
Thanks everyone for the info. I was really upset waiting for my TP after reading all the negativity here on XDA. I hope some of you reply about ICS. I'm itchin to run it, lol...
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Bgm307, How is everything since the ICS update? Honeycomb is running so good, i'm afraid to update....?
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It's great actually. Like I said earlier, it went straight to ICS 4.03 build 9.4.2.13. No glitches, no crashes, no battery problems. Put it to sleep last night at 62% battery. This morning, 6 hours later I'm at 61%.
I just can't make myself walk into another room and test the wifi. Guess I have to do that this morning.
Well, I received mine yesterday from Best Buy online. My order was kind of odd. Two weeks ago on Friday, I woke up and hit the website again to look at availability. It was sold out the night before, but to my surprise it was available. I immediately placed the order, and right afterward it went back to "out of stock".
Needless to say, I was pretty skeptical and kept checking order status. It stuck at "in process through the weekend (understandable) but remained this way through to the middle of the week. I gave up and called Best Buy to cancel. The woman put me on hold for a minute after "confirming" that the reason it was stuck on in-process was because they were most likely not available. When she came back, she said the order was cancelled...and I moved on.
Two days later, I checked my bank balance and saw that I was CHARGED for the Prime! I immediately logged into my BB account and saw that it was apparently shipped, UPS tracking and all. I was a little ticked initially that they apparently did NOT cancel my order, but decided to roll with it and figured if it arrived in anything but mint condition that it was going back to a local BB right away.
So, it arrived yesterday while I was at work. It was a LONG day at work needless to say, and when I finally got home I actually did not open it for a few hours. I was concerned about all of the negativity surrounding it in the various forums. All of the odd issues and some really scary stories. After a beer or two later, I said the hell with it and decided to open the box.
Immediately upon powering the device on, I scoured the screen with my eyes for dead pixels, dust, screen bleed..what have you. Absolutely NOTHING wrong with the screen...whew! Booted in to Honeycomb and it immediately found my network (full bars) as well as a few neighbors networks...and even some I have not seen before on my other devices! Ok, wifi is not an issue. Applied the update to ICS next. Downloaded, rebooted, Android logo with spinning gears....all done.
Went back in and checked everything out. Good deal! Everything is smooth and gorgeous. Installed a few apps, games and emulators...everything worked as expected. Played Pacmania (in Mame) and off to bed.
Came home tonight from work and continued with this baby. Tested the mini HDMI on my TV, worked perfectly. Played some music and heard it out of my surround system. HDMI working perfectly. Check that off the list.
Next, I tested the microSDHC. Popped a Kingston 32GB card in that had some previous apps and stuff from my old Asus Slider. Worked as expected.
Set up FTP access in ES FIle Explorer to my Serv-U FTP and streamed a movie (John Wayne, The Quiet Man) as well as some MP3's. Worked smooth as butter.
As for GPS, yes, I had a slight issue. I had signal for a short time in the house, and then it went out. However, this is more than normal. My Garmin gets NO signal in the house no matter what! I will have to take it out soon and test, but I have the feeling that GPS will lock on for me as well.
My point is that if you find one of these, I recommend to buy it and try it YOURSELF. You cannot go by issues in the forums. Remember, the majority of the time when people have NO issues, they do not post and say "everything is ok!". You usually only see posts when people do have these issues, and posts should not sway you from one of the greatest tablets ever created. I freakin' love this thing!
BTW, I forgot to add that mine is a C1 serial number based model. Perhaps issues were vastly fixed with this one.
Posts like yours are exactly why I'm returning my second Prime and trying a third time. My first two must have been defective!!!
Hopefully third times a charm... if I can find one.
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Forgot to ask... how is your BT working with your WiFi?
I liked my prime for the first two days as well, until the glaring problems started to happen.
Test out your prime from 20-30 feet away from your router and see if your wifi speeds drop DRAMATICALLY. Mine did. From my bedroom which is no more than 25 feet from the router, my wifi speeds went from 20 mbps to less than 2.
Next, try using your wifi while also using a bluetooth device like headphones or a mouse. Odds are, your wifi speeds will drop so low that the internet is unusable while bluetooth is on.
If GPS was just the issue, I don't think many people would have a problem. However, when the wifi isn't sufficient enough to work from every area in my house, especially on a device that depends on its wifi connection, then there is definitely a problem. My router isn't cheap, and my house isn't large. None of my other devices have this issue, and from all the other people reporting the weak wifi, I'd say its more of a design flaw than a software problem.
That, to Asus has some seriously defective components or a large quality issue with their components. Either way, with as many people having issues with the prime as there are, I don't see it lasting long on the marketplace. I wouldn't try my luck again simple because I don't see Asus supporting a product with this many problems for much longer.
I would be willing to bet, they phase out product sales completely as soon as they can possibly get the redesigned units out. I know that the Staples website has removed the Prime from their search function and you can only find the item via a search for staples asus transformer prime. Also, my local 2 staples stores sent their primes back to the warehouse. They wouldn't say why, but they had stock and sent them back.
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Well, I received mine yesterday from Best Buy online. My order was kind of odd. Two weeks ago on Friday, I woke up and hit the website again to look at availability. It was sold out the night before, but to my surprise it was available. I immediately placed the order, and right afterward it went back to "out of stock".
Needless to say, I was pretty skeptical and kept checking order status. It stuck at "in process through the weekend (understandable) but remained this way through to the middle of the week. I gave up and called Best Buy to cancel. The woman put me on hold for a minute after "confirming" that the reason it was stuck on in-process was because they were most likely not available. When she came back, she said the order was cancelled...and I moved on.
Two days later, I checked my bank balance and saw that I was CHARGED for the Prime! I immediately logged into my BB account and saw that it was apparently shipped, UPS tracking and all. I was a little ticked initially that they apparently did NOT cancel my order, but decided to roll with it and figured if it arrived in anything but mint condition that it was going back to a local BB right away.
So, it arrived yesterday while I was at work. It was a LONG day at work needless to say, and when I finally got home I actually did not open it for a few hours. I was concerned about all of the negativity surrounding it in the various forums. All of the odd issues and some really scary stories. After a beer or two later, I said the hell with it and decided to open the box.
Immediately upon powering the device on, I scoured the screen with my eyes for dead pixels, dust, screen bleed..what have you. Absolutely NOTHING wrong with the screen...whew! Booted in to Honeycomb and it immediately found my network (full bars) as well as a few neighbors networks...and even some I have not seen before on my other devices! Ok, wifi is not an issue. Applied the update to ICS next. Downloaded, rebooted, Android logo with spinning gears....all done.
Went back in and checked everything out. Good deal! Everything is smooth and gorgeous. Installed a few apps, games and emulators...everything worked as expected. Played Pacmania (in Mame) and off to bed.
Came home tonight from work and continued with this baby. Tested the mini HDMI on my TV, worked perfectly. Played some music and heard it out of my surround system. HDMI working perfectly. Check that off the list.
Next, I tested the microSDHC. Popped a Kingston 32GB card in that had some previous apps and stuff from my old Asus Slider. Worked as expected.
Set up FTP access in ES FIle Explorer to my Serv-U FTP and streamed a movie (John Wayne, The Quiet Man) as well as some MP3's. Worked smooth as butter.
As for GPS, yes, I had a slight issue. I had signal for a short time in the house, and then it went out. However, this is more than normal. My Garmin gets NO signal in the house no matter what! I will have to take it out soon and test, but I have the feeling that GPS will lock on for me as well.
My point is that if you find one of these, I recommend to buy it and try it YOURSELF. You cannot go by issues in the forums. Remember, the majority of the time when people have NO issues, they do not post and say "everything is ok!". You usually only see posts when people do have these issues, and posts should not sway you from one of the greatest tablets ever created. I freakin' love this thing!
BTW, I forgot to add that mine is a C1 serial number based model. Perhaps issues were vastly fixed with this one.
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Glad to hear you enjoying it. Mines seem to never be able to leave my hands..lol. I'd recommend Thumb keyboard. Makes typing so easy n fast.
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I would be willing to bet, they phase out product sales completely as soon as they can possibly get the redesigned units out. I know that the Staples website has removed the Prime from their search function and you can only find the item via a search for staples asus transformer prime. Also, my local 2 staples stores sent their primes back to the warehouse. They wouldn't say why, but they had stock and sent them back.
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Well, many websites remove the device from the basic search when it is simply not available. I am not a Staples shopper, but more of a Microcenter guy. They do this all of the time on their site. If you order the last of something and then go back to try to find it the next day, it is purged from their search and unless you have the direct link you cannot find it!
As for Staples sending them back, if this is indeed true it may be for other reasons. The demand for the device is so high right now that Staples bigwigs may be re-assessing stock sent to stores and ordering them back to the warehouse for redist for online orders. This is quite common. I know as I work for a pretty large video card manufacturer (and SD, USB, SSD, Flash media) and these kinds of tactics are used constantly. If some Staples in timbucktoo ended up with 8 units that are going unsold while there is a demand elsewhere...well...the manager may get a return to distribution email from his DM.
I do not think at all that it is getting "phased out" in other words.
Sounds good man. I actually have 2, count them 2 perfect working Primes under one roof hahah. Me & my GF both have C1 serials numbers bought from Staples the last few days.
However i did originally return a BC i think to BB that wasnt working soo good. The lady there said they have been getting tons of returns and therfore stoped selling them. IN the store at least.
So yea it is possible to have a good working prime. I actually just upgraded mine to ICS from HC just so i could test both. So far so good. Out fo the box i upgraded my GF's to ICS right away. I did have the .13 update on the one i returned.
So far good wifi even away from the router unlike my original & no dropout with bluetooth on. It seems there is a ever so small screen bleed on the right hand bottom corner. Only if you use a all black screen using the screen bleed test. Otherwise you cant see it. Oddly enough this has been the case with all 3 of my Primes ive had, odd. But you cant even see it under normal use. Im sticking with mine lol.
Hey man I'm glad you're liking your Prime. I got mine a while ago and have had no issues, thankfully. Solid device, especially after the last update,. Since then it's been smooth sailing.
ICS Browser + made me a happy boy.
I just want to note that I'm not a fanboy, I don't care about Asus, just a happy customer. Bought my dad one and he seems happy.
I also had a customer (I work tech support) call in about a microSDHC issue (not the Prime, just a format issue) and he got to talking about his 64GB Prime. The guy had no issues with it and was using it out in the field with his job. He had more than enough good to say about it, which made me more excited about it prior to its arrival.
As I said before, there are MANY people out there with good fully functional Prime units...and I would venture to guess many more than people with defect units. You just wouldn't know as these people do not post "non-issues"
It is a damn great device and I am proud to own it. I will continue to run it through its trials over the next two weeks of course while I am inside of the return policy, but if all works as it is now (and has right out of the box) I see no reason for return. Time to just have FUN with the new incredible hardware!
PS: Not an ASUS fanboy either. My Prime sits happily on my desk right next to my Playbook...an underrated and very cool tablet as well
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I also had a customer (I work tech support) call in about a microSDHC issue (not the Prime, just a format issue) and he got to talking about his 64GB Prime. The guy had no issues with it and was using it out in the field with his job. He had more than enough good to say about it, which made me more excited about it prior to its arrival.
As I said before, there are MANY people out there with good fully functional Prime units...and I would venture to guess many more than people with defect units. You just wouldn't know as these people do not post "non-issues"
It is a damn great device and I am proud to own it. I will continue to run it through its trials over the next two weeks of course while I am inside of the return policy, but if all works as it is now (and has right out of the box) I see no reason for return. Time to just have FUN with the new incredible hardware!
PS: Not an ASUS fanboy either. My Prime sits happily on my desk right next to my Playbook...an underrated and very cool tablet as well
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Here is your proof right here. Out of 195 prime owners that voted on xda, more than 75%(147) voted they like the Prime and keeping it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1491431
Despite the problems I'm having and have had, I'm still trying to stay positive..
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Guys....just a quick question for all you lucky lucky Prime owners.....what is playback of MKV files like? Is it super smooth, both 720p and 1080p and do they all work or have you needed to re-encode them?
Cheers,
M
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Guys....just a quick question for all you lucky lucky Prime owners.....what is playback of MKV files like? Is it super smooth, both 720p and 1080p and do they all work or have you needed to re-encode them?
Cheers,
M
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Super smooth. If you watch animies and have 10bit movies then it's a no go.
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Super smooth. If you watch animies and have 10bit movies then it's a no go.
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10MBit\second movies?
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it immediately found my network (full bars) as well as a few neighbors networks...and even some I have not seen before on my other devices! Ok, wifi is not an issue.
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I like your highly scientific method of verifying that the "wifi is not an issue"