Got the 02 Trion and so far no issues, does anyone know if there is a fix to use the front video cam with Skype?
wrong forum, this is TyTN upgrading.
Why is this the wrong forum? Forgive me, as I am new to this site... but the O2 Trion is one of the TyTn variants, and there doesn't seem to be a separate forum dedicated to each TyTn variant. If I am wrong, and there is another forum, then I apologize.
I am also interested in this question. I think everyone with a TyTn or TyTn-variant in an area where there is not yet video calling is dying to know how we can take advantage of that front cam! 8)
There are 3 TyTN / Hermes forums:
1) TyTN
2) TyTN Upgrading
3) TyTN Accessories
This is TyTN upgrading, and the question was not related to upgading. He should have used the TyTN forum for that, which is for general questions not related to upgrading nor accessories
marsmarg finally posted the question to the right forum, so follow the thread there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=345713
Ahhh.... I understand now. I misread the emphasis. I thought you saying that this forum dealt with "TyTn" upgrading (as opposed to say, "Wizard" upgrading)... but what you were saying was that this forum dealt with TyTn "upgrading" (as opposed to other TyTn issues). Ooops! Sorry for misreading! (and thanks for the link!)
am i the only one tired of trying to keep up with the 50+ pages of the issues thread and the chatter thread??
i was thinking of setting up a bugzilla like website for the xda live ROM.... but that would defeat the purpose of everything being in one place.... moderators/administrators is there anyway of setting up a hermesbugzilla.xda-developers.com site on your servers???
or anyone have a better idea?
Tell me about it, its a bit frustrating reading the same issues over and over again - especially when they've already been answered a million times.
How can I change the keyboard to suit my 8525 again? .
I don't think it warrants a bugzilla site, perhaps another Wiki page?
or new users have to be forced to read the wiki page before they can browse the forums....
There should be a new forum that only "Senior Members" can access That way we can just ignore the n00bs
I've got no problem with noobs, its great that they're keen on learning about their device - but that word is very important, learning. People need to learn to do some research themselves before asking questions, most of them have already been answered!
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I've got no problem with noobs, its great that they're keen on learning about their device - but that word is very important, learning. People need to learn to do some research themselves before asking questions, most of them have already been answered!
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its not learning.... its reading first... they try and learn before reading and they brick their devices....
Before I attempted to do a single thing to my hermes, I spent a few *weeks* reading, learning, understanding and playing so that when the time finally came to do the deed, it went flawlessly.
It is a process. You need to UNDERSTAND what you're doing, know the reason WHY you're doing it, and LEARN about the process!
If you don't want to invest the time to understand, then just don't bother--it'll save you a bricked device.
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Before I attempted to do a single thing to my hermes, I spent a few *weeks* reading, learning, understanding and playing so that when the time finally came to do the deed, it went flawlessly.
It is a process. You need to UNDERSTAND what you're doing, know the reason WHY you're doing it, and LEARN about the process!
If you don't want to invest the time to understand, then just don't bother--it'll save you a bricked device.
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ive been playing with PDA's for 3 years... ive read more documents and more how to's... bricked and unbricked my devices i cannot begin to count... but we need a process for the new users to follow... before they can even browse the forum they need to read the wiki or something....
Could we have a private area only for people who can pass a test based on the Wiki?
Q1) You just bought a new TyTn. You want to put WM6 on it. What is the FIRST thing you should do?
a) Download Des' SSPL RUU
b) Carefully read the Wiki and all related threads
c) Use Pof's version 3 unlocker to SuperCID your device
d) Download XDA-Live and run the upgrade program
I'm guessing that a lot of n00bs can't figure out the right answer to the above... It's multiple choice. What's YOUR answer?
LegolasTheElf said:
Could we have a private area only for people who can pass a test based on the Wiki?
Q1) You just bought a new TyTn. You want to put WM6 on it. What is the FIRST thing you should do?
a) Download Des' SSPL RUU
b) Carefully read the Wiki and all related threads
c) Use Pof's version 3 unlocker to SuperCID your device
d) Download XDA-Live and run the upgrade program
I'm guessing that a lot of n00bs can't figure out the right answer to the above... It's multiple choice. What's YOUR answer?
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e) can i use the builtin GPS on the hermes?
f) how can i upgrade the radio if i have radio bootloader 108
LegolasTheElf said:
There should be a new forum that only "Senior Members" can access That way we can just ignore the n00bs
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Thats not fair!!You joined this December '06 .. lol
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Thats not fair!!You joined this December '06 .. lol
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its not about when you joined... its about knowledge and commitment... hahahaha... not really... just knowledge...
i dont have a problem answering questions... but when the same question gets asked 6 times in one day thats when i get pissed... its not hard to use the search function guys... all it takes 30 minutes to an hour and you have the knowledge to flash your device... the search function and the wiki are your best tools!!!
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Thats not fair!!You joined this December '06 .. lol
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Yeah, but, I've had PDA's for as long as PDA's existed.. My first one was a Palm Pilot 5000 (3Com's version of it). I got it about 2 weeks after it was released.
I've owned PPC's for about 3+years, and am an MCSE (so, I understand the technology inside the version of Windows it uses pretty well).
I read for a while before joining; but, quite frankly, I didn't have a reason to join here before I did--the 8525 didn't exist until about a week before I bought it!
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its not learning.... its reading first... they try and learn before reading and they brick their devices....
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If we didn't brick devices, the senior's wouldn't be developing unbricking techniques which allow us to do much more.
If we sensor, test or discriminate then we lose the purpose of this forum (maybe even become like Microsh*t). How would Pof, Olipro, Kyphur etc have become members if they hadn't been able to ask the questions which helped teach them their skills.
The main reason there are so many repeat or dumb questions out now is because there have been so many new tools and Roms released in such a short time. This will settle down as development slows.
Maybe the best way round this is to put a front screen to all the forums giving a very brief guide how to use the Wiki and search facility. I'd also include a statement that any question which have been asked and answered before will be deleted and that the poster needs to research the question. This message could also be linked to show on a posters screen for each of his first 5 posts so he couldn't bypass the warning/advice.
Just my opinions, but I hate sensoring and eliteism (don't let the dummies ask ME questions), particularly when the sensors have benefitted from the source they are sensoring.
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If we didn't brick devices, the senior's wouldn't be developing unbricking techniques which allow us to do much more.
If we sensor, test or discriminate then we lose the purpose of this forum (maybe even become like Microsh*t). How would Pof, Olipro, Kyphur etc have become members if they hadn't been able to ask the questions which helped teach them their skills.
The main reason there are so many repeat or dumb questions out now is because there have been so many new tools and Roms released in such a short time. This will settle down as development slows.
Maybe the best way round this is to put a front screen to all the forums giving a very brief guide how to use the Wiki and search facility. I'd also include a statement that any question which have been asked and answered before will be deleted and that the poster needs to research the question. This message could also be linked to show on a posters screen for each of his first 5 posts so he couldn't bypass the warning/advice.
Just my opinions, but I hate sensoring and eliteism (don't let the dummies ask ME questions), particularly when the sensors have benefitted from the source they are sensoring.
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i wasnt talking about sensoring... just preaching the knowledge before you make a choice to flash or cook or play with roms....
Its not the fact that questions are asked - questions are good!
Its the fact that people make no effort to research and find out the answers for themselves before asking it. How many times has "How do I fix the keyboard on my 8525", "How do I enable GPS", "How do I flash this ROM", etc - when the answers are all there, easy to find.
Maybe an alternative would be to have 3 levels of each forum, Jumior, member and senior...
Juniors could only post in junior forum but could read all 3,
Members could post in member and junior forums and read all 3
Seniors could post and read all 3.
Any member or senior who posts too many 'dumb' threads could be warned and possibly bumped down a level by the mods.
This way anyone can help people less experienced, and the less experienced can learn from everyone by reading. Any posts you make will be to your peers but may be answered by your seniors.
Also, the likes of Kyphur and Olipro who are actively developing can ask questions and get answers from the people with the most experience.
I still don't like this too much because there is no reason for more senior members to read junior forums, but it does leave the whole forum accessible to all and puts the emphasis on juniors to ask and answer questions to gain knowledge and thus get 'promoted'.
Why does every forum end up with this debate? Cos its human nature...
People get excited about flashing new roms to their devices and go ahead and do it and then panic when their beloved gadget doesn't work properly...
Yes - people should read the wiki before a) doing stuff and b) asking question but if everyone behaved exactly the way they "should", the world would be a really boring place.
I personally made sure that I read up before flashing WMXL1 and 2 - they were my first xda flashes - but I understand why loads of people dont. Yes repeat questions are annoying, but in some cases they are asked again because the answer given is too high-brow for the noobs to understand...
Oh and its "censor" !
For bugs and enhancements tracking my personal favorite is Jira. Very widespread among open source and commercial projects. They have a Community & Open Source License model where you can get it for free ...
http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/
don't agree - don't like it - should'nt do it !
How do you judge who is a noob and who is not? and who does that?
What criteria will be used?
We are opening up a big and unnecessary debate here.
Actually with all stupid questions on this site, we do actually learn from each other at ALL levels.
This is what make this site an unbelievable success.
Hello all, I am needing to unlock an AT&T 8525 to use on T-Mobile's network.
Can anyone give me some cliff notes? Mainly just differences. I have unlocked and reflashed quite a few MDAs so I am just looking to see whats different on doing this to a newer phone. I would imagine lokiwiz.bat wouldn't be used for this? What is the OEM radio? Is there an official WM6 ROM available?
Thanks in advance!
Dain
RTFW
Please?
Read The Fucking Whiningmoderatorssignature?
Dude, its a simple question on the differences of the procedure of unlock two different phones that people feel would be good "tips" for me. I read plenty and it all just seems a tad different. If you think that your post was a great contribution to my current thread then you are highly mistaken.
Anything else?
Read this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722.
And in case sim unlock needed read this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
They are the 1st and 2nd post on this forum.....
Thats why you got flamed....
Cheers...
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Dain said:
Read The Fucking Whiningmoderatorssignature?
Dude, its a simple question on the differences of the procedure of unlock two different phones that people feel would be good "tips" for me. I read plenty and it all just seems a tad different. If you think that your post was a great contribution to my current thread then you are highly mistaken.
Anything else?
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When you search, or read anything, you may find people being more co-operative. Posting a new thread is very likely to get you flamed!
Since the 8525 is a Hermes in a coat, unlocking is going to be the same as any other Hermes based device. It doesn't take a rocket scientest to work that out!
Stickies are there for a reason! - If you'd looked through the first 5 threads in the forum you posted this in, you'd have found what you needed, and then, if you had an issue with that because you couldn't be asked to read the post, then you could have posted in that thread!!!
Or, as someone else did, you could have PMed someone - including me!, asking for clarification on the wiki page.
To be honest with you, I don't think posting in a thread 100 pages long yields great results based on my past experiences with XDA. Maybe that's just the Wizard section though...
I get what you are saying but I don't think you are getting what I am saying. I read plenty. I am seeing a lot of terms and processes that don't seem the same that I am used to so I was just looking for opinions. If you want to cripple your "section" of this forum by not letting someone asK for some opinions then so be it. I am not just some n00b logging in asking "hey how i unlock dis fone i got today?"
hi guys help is needed!! myu gf as a andriod phone and all i get all day is how great it is!!! i hhave an htc hd2 and really want funk it up!! any ideas of any cool themes apps games anything!! and i really wana change the clock!!! help me shut her up for once and all!!! thanks mark
Welcome, but be aware that you have stumbled into a bit of a bear pit here - this section of the forum is for hard core developers to post their applications, not for people to ask - with respect - noob questions!
My suggestion would be to locate the Leo section of the forums where you will find several forums devoted to 'stuff' for the HD2, including all the things you are looking for - but also be aware that just bunging stuff on the HD2 to try to make it funkier is not necessarily wise. You need to read up a bit first, but then you can get into flashing ROMs and all sorts.
You could really do with reading up on the posting rules for the site - everyone is welcome (providing they are keeping it legal) but there are some niceties that you may want to observe to avoid the wrath of aged and bad tempered members!!
Another key tip is to use the search function...always!
See you over at the Leo forums perhaps?
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When I rebooted my device today, i found that all my apps were secured by a password which I didn't set. Hope you'll help me.
Thank You
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