Hey, I got a friend whos got a TP for Verizon.
Is there a way to make it Force Roaming like I can with my Sprint one? Is there a CAB app out for it to do it with that works with Verizon, or can I use the regedit program and do it for her? Has anyone tried making their Verizon TP force roam??
Thanks
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What would forcing a vzw touch pro to roam do?
Trying to make it so when the phone is in a Verizon service area it does not use it. It forces to roam off another company's tower.
I just this feature for my Sprint TP because if I have a real low Sprint signal but because I am in a Sprint service area it wont go to roaming but if I make it roam only it will force it to roam in a Sprint service area and my bars jump 2-3 bars +
When your sprint phone goes to roam only, it uses verizon or alltel towers (most common) but they are home networks to verizon. I don't think this is necessary for a verizon phone unless you have some circumstance that I have not seen pop up in these forums. Good luck.
Yes but when you Force to Roam in a Verizon phone it will force it to roam to a network thats not considered a "Home Network" maybe like a Sprint tower.
Try this link to add a registry edit to for a roaming only option. I am on Sprint and just added it o my new touch pro and it worked like a champ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403222&highlight=roaming+only
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Try this link to add a registry edit to for a roaming only option. I am on Sprint and just added it o my new touch pro and it worked like a champ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403222&highlight=roaming+only
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This is for Sprint phones. The Verizon registry is a bit different from Sprints so this method does not work.
Has anyone come up with a Verizon force to roam yet??
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I just loaded the hybrid prl to my phone and went from 1-2 bars about a quarter mile from a tower to 5-6 bars about a quarter Mike from a Verizon tower. This shows me that its not the phone that gets a bad signal, it is the service. I came from Verizon and I am used to everything working all the time, but on Sprint there are times a text won't go through. Does anyone know if I can do something to the phone to not show that I am roaming on Verizon now?
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smalltownbird said:
I just loaded the hybrid prl to my phone and went from 1-2 bars about a quarter mile from a tower to 5-6 bars about a quarter Mike from a Verizon tower. This shows me that its not the phone that gets a bad signal, it is the service. I came from Verizon and I am used to everything working all the time, but on Sprint there are times a text won't go through. Does anyone know if I can do something to the phone to not show that I am roaming on Verizon now?
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even if your phone shows ur not roaming it will on your bill and you will get kicked
what roaming? I thought sprint has free roaming?
This no longer the case?
Can you give me some info on how you changed to the verizon prl?
You can't hide that. Just like you can't hide your phone from 911. Verizon is aware of your number roaming. They will charge sprint for every minute and kilobyte you use. Since your are using verizon constantly, sprint will be charged a lot for your use. They will then, sooner rather than later, terminate your contract...and again soon. See it happen in these forums before.
Your brand new evo3d will then be without a service.
What do you expect? You can't root and bypass your way past everything. Sometimes you have to pay for stuff. Plus, sprint is the only unlimited data carrier left. If people continue to do as you are doing, and teether, etc...then that unlimited data may become limited.
OK. Two things I don't understand. PRL noob so go easy...
First, our phones automatically roam Verizon's towers for both cell service and 3G. Mine does it all the time. So why would we need another PRL? When the Sprint signal gets weak enough, it's going to use Verizon towers anyway.
Second, both Sprint and Verizon have had a "free roaming" agreement for over a year. The way it was explained to me at my local store, the agreement is that Sprint and Verizon both share towers so in the (less likely) situation where Verizon coverage is weak and there is a Sprint tower nearby, Verizon phones will actually roam on Sprint. The way it was explained to me: neither company is "renting time" from the other's towers so I don't think Sprint is paying out the wazoo (at all in fact) for Sprint customers roaming on Verizon towers.
Mike
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OK. Two things I don't understand. PRL noob so go easy...
First, our phones automatically roam Verizon's towers for both cell service and 3G. Mine does it all the time. So why would we need another PRL? When the Sprint signal gets weak enough, it's going to use Verizon towers anyway.
Second, both Sprint and Verizon have had a "free roaming" agreement for over a year. The way it was explained to me at my local store, the agreement is that Sprint and Verizon both share towers so in the (less likely) situation where Verizon coverage is weak and there is a Sprint tower nearby, Verizon phones will actually roam on Sprint. The way it was explained to me: neither company is "renting time" from the other's towers so I don't think Sprint is paying out the wazoo (at all in fact) for Sprint customers roaming on Verizon towers.
Mike
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The PRL the OP put into place makes his phone roam on verizon constantly. A PRL serves as a handshake between the phone and the towers. Standard PRL looks for sprint towers, and if none are present it looks for verizon. The OP seems to have installed a prl that looks for verizon towers first.
You may be right about the free roam agreement, but sprint still cancels people's service if they are abusing this. Just happened in the Evo forums. There may be a free roam agreement, but verizon won't tolerate sprint customers exclusively using their bandwidth if they are not paying for it. They will then tell sprint that so and so number needs to be cut. Then sprint will send you a letter saying your contract is to be terminated on so and so date due to excess roaming. So, theoretically, this could happen to someone who has sprint, but lives in a sprint dead zone where they have to use verizon all the time.
Do it for long enough and they will cancel your service.
Where we live is a Sprint dead zone. Occasionally we do pick up the distant Sprint tower and my service says "Sprint" but I'd say at least 75% of the time my phone is using a Verizon tower since I work at home. Never got a spanking. Of course, I guess if I changed my PRL and they noticed I'm on all sorts of different Verizon towers (even where there is good Sprint coverage), maybe then they'd raise an eyebrow? I wonder if their setup is sophisticated enough to detect that you use Verizon towers all over town as opposed to using one particular tower all the time just because you live in a fringe area. Interesting.
What we really need is not a new PRL: we need the ability to change the phone's preferences so it switches to Verizon's towers earlier. For example, switch to Verizon towers ANY time the Verizon signal is better... not just when the Sprint signal becomes so weak it drops out.
Mike
FYI, they still send out free Airave's.
I'm not doing this to cheat Sprint. I can't even make a phone call at times and that can be dangerous and frustrating. I usually switch it to Verizon prl before work and back to Sprint in the evening. But I'm usually on WiFi all the time except at work. Today is day 30 or my 30 days. Maybe I should go back to Verizon
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Ya i got one coming myself
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FYI, they still send out free Airave's.
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Yup.. I've got one, but haven't activated it yet... It kind of sux that I have to use my in-home broadband bandwidth to get decent service from Sprint.
Another thing that sux is that when I'm out on the water (Chesapeake Bay), Verizon has solid service where Sprint's service is spotty. Sprint's PRL is also set to NOT roam on these Verizon towers, causing a battery drain like there's no tomorrow.
Looks, like I might have to start using a Verizon PRL,when going out fishing..
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I'm not doing this to cheat Sprint. I can't even make a phone call at times and that can be dangerous and frustrating. I usually switch it to Verizon prl before work and back to Sprint in the evening. But I'm usually on WiFi all the time except at work. Today is day 30 or my 30 days. Maybe I should go back to Verizon
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How are you switching PRLs? The ##PRL# EPST code doesn't seem to work for me.
Be careful with that Verizon PRL, after moths of using it, Sprint will call you and will cancel your account
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Roaming data is not unlimited. So, if you roam every once in a while and pull down your latest email or check a map, etc., you'll be fine. If you're always on roaming data and pull too much data, you will be dropped. I've heard different numbers for the limits, but there is one.
Whatever happened to the ability to force roaming? On older devices we used to be able to pick "Sprint Only" "Automatic" and "Roaming".
I would always do that when I was getting crap Sprint signal.
I switched them using qpst. I have about 7 or 8 different prls saved to my computer I switch to to see what works the best.
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I just thought I would share my results, roam control works great with this photon in Chicago. I used to have an epic and roam control didn't work here in Chicago, but it does with the photon. For those of u that don't know what roam control is, its an app that lets u force your phone into roaming. For instance at work, I have 1 bar. when I use the roam control app and set my phone to roam I get full service. But be advised too Much roaming willget u kicked off your contract. Also u need to be rooted to use the app.
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Can u force 3g using this on roam?, there is a way but a little lengthy
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I use Roam control quite a bit and was glad ti was updated to work with the Photon. When I'm roaming on Verizon the PRL determines if it will allow you to utilize 3G or 1X data. I changed mine to 1115 which is a business PRL that allows full 3G data when roaming on VZ. In fact the speeds surpass Sprints 3G in most areas.
how do you change prl? nvm did a search for it, and found it
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I use Roam control quite a bit and was glad ti was updated to work with the Photon. When I'm roaming on Verizon the PRL determines if it will allow you to utilize 3G or 1X data. I changed mine to 1115 which is a business PRL that allows full 3G data when roaming on VZ. In fact the speeds surpass Sprints 3G in most areas.
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Yeah i noticed the second i roam over onto verizon, the speeds blow out sprints...Although the ability to just roam at will comes in handy when im on the phone and im entering my apartment. I have no sprint coverage, i use an air rave. So before i step inside and lose my call i roam over with roam control, and bam my call doesn't drop! Definitely a rooted phones best friend!!!
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how do you change prl? nvm did a search for it, and found it
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Trust me its definitely worth the purchase. Also changing the prl is also very handy...just try not to roam to much, sprint can terminate your contract for roaming to much...
I've noticed mine kicks out of Vz in less than a minute, and the icon looses the triangle. When I go check the phones settings, whether I have it set to "CDMA Only" or to "Automatic", it always gets kicked back to "Sprint Only". I am on the latest update, and am rooted again.
Is anyone else having this problem, or is this an old problem you have solved already?
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Can u force 3g using this on roam?, there is a way but a little lengthy
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All roaming is done on 3G. Sprint's and Verizon's 4G networks are incompatible (LTE and WiMax).
In Chicago we roam on US Cellular, not VZW, and I only get 1x.
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All roaming is done on 3G. Sprint's and Verizon's 4G networks are incompatible (LTE and WiMax).
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I am wondering if there is a prl to flash for the evo 3d, sprint network is terrible arround here, I am currently using the verizon prl, although better, not as good as US Cellular in my area, expecially at work.
Thanks in advance
GGerk said:
I am wondering if there is a prl to flash for the evo 3d, sprint network is terrible arround here, I am currently using the verizon prl, although better, not as good as US Cellular in my area, expecially at work.
Thanks in advance
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No I don't think anyone has made one of those. Is us cellular a cdma network? Have you tried the 1337, or 3137(can't remember if this is correct but it does start with a3). Or maybe even that sprint business PRL 1115 I think it is.
The Sprint business PRL (11115) only allows for roaming on Verizon I believe. I don't believe they have any roaming agreement with US Cellular, unfortunately.
I tried the 115000 and it didn't work as well as the 00001
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The Sprint business PRL (11115) only allows for roaming on Verizon I believe. I don't believe they have any roaming agreement with US Cellular, unfortunately.
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I checked into it, and one of sprints reciprocal roaming agreements is with us cellular. However the agreement is only for voice and 1xrtt, but no 3G. We could find out all the roaming agreements if someone put their sprint PRL into one of the PRL decoders floating around out there.
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I tried the 115000 and it didn't work as well as the 00001
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Yeah, that would make sense. 01 is a custom PRL, and its targets are to force roaming on to Verizon towers. 15 is a PRL encoded by sprint for business customers. Its main target is sprint towers, but directs the antenna to Verizon towers, and all the other company's that sprint has roaming agreements for. It only does the roaming though if it can't find a sprint tower. Also with 15 it will settle for roaming towers that only have 1xrtt, as opposed to the custom PRLs that aim for Verizon 3G towers whenever possible.
Try out the other 2 PRL
there is 01337 and 31337 PRLs. I have yet to test the 31337 but 01337 works well. 00001 targets Verizon towers by default before Sprint, and if that one doesnt help you much I dont think 01337 will either as it is just a modified 00001. 11115 Wont help either as you still have some Sprint service so it still defaults to that network.
Here are 3 US Cellular PRL files for you to try:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EFOKA16L
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O6JINILZ
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9W7K02BI
15096 allows 3G roaming. Enjoy
Is it safe to install prl 15096? I have an EVO 3d with free roaming
sorry havent checked back in a while, I will give all 3 a try
Thanks
I just want to know if I'm gonna get extra charges from sprint if I use those 3 prls
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I just want to know if I'm gonna get extra charges from sprint if I use those 3 prls
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First off, it is too dangerous to use any of these unless you have a plan with unlimited roaming. However even so sprint has gotten very sneaky. They have advertised unlimited roaming, but just like their unlimited data if you do too much [voice or data roaming], or a majority of your usage is roaming [even if you barely use any] your contract states in fine print that they can terminate service. Now so long as you aren't tethering a ton, or using lots of data they don't seem to mind, but if you do they send you a warning, if it persists they terminate you. You should not get charged ever with the plan you have, and you shouldn't get terminated unless you hog data. Hogging data on sprint is bad enough but hogging data on Verizon via roaming is very wrong. They won't terminate you unless you are abusive, so I hope you have nothing to worry about.
Since Megaupload is down could you please repost the prls
Thanks
Check THIS thread. A guy here on XDA is testing all sorts of different PRL methods. Hope it helps!
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Since Megaupload is down could you please repost the prls
Thanks
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Here is 15094 and 15096. My roommate has u.s. cell and his prl is 15114 im gonna try to pull it later...
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Here is 15094 and 15096. My roommate has u.s. cell and his prl is 15114 im gonna try to pull it later...
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THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I have been searching for an EVDO US Cellular PRL for around a year now, and have never found one. I tried yours, and they work. How do you go about extracting them from a phone? I've never been able to figure that out. I really needed this since most of the places my Sprint phone roams in have little to none Verizon coverage, while there's perfect US Cellular 3G.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I have been searching for an EVDO US Cellular PRL for around a year now, and have never found one. I tried yours, and they work. How do you go about extracting them from a phone? I've never been able to figure that out. I really needed this since most of the places my Sprint phone roams in have little to none Verizon coverage, while there's perfect US Cellular 3G.
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Well it depends on what brand of phone you have. The ultimate goal is get into diag mode and from there you can use QPST or DFS to pull the prl.
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Hard to believe but I can not get a signal at my job on Verizon, I know I can on sprint did so with my Samsung epic. Is it possible to use roam control and roam specifically to sprint? Will it be 3G or 1x? I'm not sure how Verizon roaming agreements are situated.
As far as I know. The PRL(Preferred Roaming List (PRL) is automatic with the sim card. Only thing you could do is make sure your phone is set to roam or maybe toggle 3g/4g to see if it will pick anything else up.
Hi, I'm still learning about PRLs and how to make use of them.. so I manually updated my phone to Sprint PRL 11119.. I was hoping that it would let me roam on Verizon towers but its the same as the over the air PRL I had.. my phone only goes to US Cellular. the thing is US Cellular signal works but isn't that much better than Sprint..
So is there anyway I could force roam to Verizon? or maybe in my area I'm out of luck?
I'm in Rockford/Chicago Area
Have the HTC EVO 3D rooted stock version.
Used the Roam Control app to force roam
also just tried the new sprint prl 60687..
I appreciate any help you guys could offer..
Thank you.
I believe that PRL is a corporate prl, which will only give you 3g roaming in certain areas of the country. The only one I have gotten to work on my phone is the 00001 prl, however that forces your phone to always roam on verizon. 3g works perfectly (as it should work, hint hint Sprint). I haven't used it since upgrading to ICS since you cant change prl's with ICS, however it will work with any GB Sense rom with the 2.1 EPST
I understand that its mostly used for the 3G roaming but I also thought it would let me Voice roam on Verizon as well not only Data..
My phone with the 11119 prl did show 3G roaming but I wasn't sure if its Verizon or US cellular data tower..
Can a PRL like 11119.. roam to Verizon 3G while at the same time roam to US cellular Voice? or it have to be both voice and data?
Also; are you saying that I won't be able to roam on verizon unless I used the 00001 prl?
Thanks.
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I believe that PRL is a corporate prl, which will only give you 3g roaming in certain areas of the country. The only one I have gotten to work on my phone is the 00001 prl, however that forces your phone to always roam on verizon. 3g works perfectly (as it should work, hint hint Sprint). I haven't used it since upgrading to ICS since you cant change prl's with ICS, however it will work with any GB Sense rom with the 2.1 EPST
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Can a PRL like 11119.. roam to Verizon 3G while at the same time roam to US cellular Voice? or it have to be both voice and data?
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No, it's all or nothing. The PRL should connect your phone to a Verizon tower first, then a US Cell tower second, so there may not be verizon coverage where you are.
We do have Verizon coverage I'm 100% sure of that.. Are there any other causes that wouldn't let me connect to Verizon? I mostly need the voice.
Some prl's just dont work well with some phones and different areas of the country. Like I said, one of the prl's I tried didn't work in my area. I would just try a few and see if you find one that works better.
Well I guess for now I should be happy with the 3G roaming and later I might try different PRL versions as you said and see how it goes.
Thank you for taking the time to help.
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Some prl's just dont work well with some phones and different areas of the country. Like I said, one of the prl's I tried didn't work in my area. I would just try a few and see if you find one that works better.
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