(Mods -- please move if you think should is in the wrong place)
One thing that bothers me about TouchFlo3d is the huge amount of files all stuffed into the "windows" folder. Is it possible to install to a different location? Wouldn't this greatly increase overall performance, since the (already huge) number of files in the windows folder would be reduced? Have any cooks tried this with their ROMS? Or, is it not even possible? I have searched as best I can but I have not found anything regarding this, nor any cabs/zip archives that will allow for installing Manilla to an alternate location.
It just seems to me that this would keep things neater and more organized in the file system, if it is possible. Or, am I just completely off-base on this?
It's not easy task - you have to hex edit Manila .exe files to set new path. Then you have to make a cab to move all 1000+ Manila files to new folder - but still increase of perfomance will be questionable
jsmith8858 said:
(Mods -- please move if you think should is in the wrong place)
One thing that bothers me about TouchFlo3d is the huge amount of files all stuffed into the "windows" folder. Is it possible to install to a different location? Wouldn't this greatly increase overall performance, since the (already huge) number of files in the windows folder would be reduced? Have any cooks tried this with their ROMS? Or, is it not even possible? I have searched as best I can but I have not found anything regarding this, nor any cabs/zip archives that will allow for installing Manilla to an alternate location.
It just seems to me that this would keep things neater and more organized in the file system, if it is possible. Or, am I just completely off-base on this?
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possible I've done it already I've even reduced the files from 1200+ to 600+ to speed up reading in \Windows folder.
The thing is, if you move the installation to another folder, existing cab modifications to manila need to be "re-cabbed", or the user needs to modify the cab itself before applying it. Only geeky guys would do this, and not the casual or silent flashers of ROMs. This would in turn have more newbie posts asking why the cab is not working etc., etc.
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possible I've done it already I've even reduced the files from 1200+ to 600+ to speed up reading in \Windows folder.
The thing is, if you move the installation to another folder, existing cab modifications to manila need to be "re-cabbed", or the user needs to modify the cab itself before applying it. Only geeky guys would do this, and not the casual or silent flashers of ROMs. This would in turn have more newbie posts asking why the cab is not working etc., etc.
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Ah, good point. Still, it would be nice if there was an easy way to handle this. i.e., is the "manila install path" stored anywhere in the registry which the cabs could reference? I guess not, sounds like its all hard-coded to use /windows. Anything we can do to reduce the contents of the Windows folder certainly can't hurt anything, and manila is the biggest offender for sure...
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Ah, good point. Still, it would be nice if there was an easy way to handle this. i.e., is the "manila install path" stored anywhere in the registry which the cabs could reference? I guess not, sounds like its all hard-coded to use /windows. Anything we can do to reduce the contents of the Windows folder certainly can't hurt anything, and manila is the biggest offender for sure...
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in any case, the manila files need to be cooked for better speed, and cooks are forced to use \Windows anyway as all files that are cooked are by default being put in there.
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in any case, the manila files need to be cooked for better speed, and cooks are forced to use \Windows anyway as all files that are cooked are by default being put in there.
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not always
The manila stuff really should be left there since it doesnt relly take up a HUGE ammount of space anyways, shame theres so many files though.
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3 Players now that work with the external screen:
WMP, Pocket Player, and HTC Audio Manager!
For HTC Audio Manager, go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313550
Take the contents of the "AudioManager" Folder and extract them all to your /windows/ directory (NOT just the folder, the files inside the folder need to be take out and put in the windows directory).
Using a registry explorer, go to HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\SecondaryDsp
There should already be a registry entry there called "AudioManager", if it's there, set it to "1".
If it's not there, create it and set it to one (I can't say for sure if it'll work or not though).
Restart your phone, and voila! A new, working MediaPlayer!
In the original topic, rickwyatt says "put in on your storage card".
As I have just 4MB storage left, I want to put it on my storage card. Is it possible?
Also, what advantage over WMP does HTC AM have?
yes it is possible to install on storage/storage card, cab-installer made by me is available here:
http://ren.redsys.ru/_private/HTC.Audio.Manager.WCE.BY.cab
But you need to copy all these files to \Windows\ directory to make it on external screen
It seems Audio Manager files should be extracted to \windows, if the external music keys need to work with it. Also the 'AudioManager' registry value is not found by default, so create it as a new DWORD value and assign it with '1'.
Yet I don't see any value this Audio Manager brings over on top of WMP, though it has a nice ipod like interface and supports playlists. Anyone found anything interesting about this new AM?
oh hell no dont intall this program, its not worth it.
Very diffcult to add playlist you have to add files one at a time
I was hoping an equalizer but does not have one
Im struggling to remove and set the buttons back to for WM player.
Damn stupid fucl<ing program
paypalbid said:
oh hell no dont intall this program, its not worth it.
Very diffcult to add playlist you have to add files one at a time
I was hoping an equalizer but does not have one
Im struggling to remove and set the buttons back to for WM player.
Damn stupid fucl<ing program
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Nothing from AudioManager should have overwritten anything else.
Therefore, go to your \windows\ directory and look at the files in the zip archive. There you can see exactly which files to delete. To get the buttons back, go back to the HKLM\Software\HTC\SecondaryDsp\AudioManager and set the value to '0' instead of '1'.
As for advantages, just looks nice imho. I didn't really play with it yet.
Thanks ladies.
I installed and it worked. However I do NOT se any advantage over the WMP. This only looks cool because "dude, it's a HTC soft, dude". I'll stick with my WMP and occasionaly Pocket Player. No need for this
nevermind said:
Thanks ladies.
I installed and it worked. However I do NOT se any advantage over the WMP. This only looks cool because "dude, it's a HTC soft, dude". I'll stick with my WMP and occasionaly Pocket Player. No need for this
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'tis true.
I'm going to play around with it more and if it seems faster or more stable than WMP I'll use it. Otherwise, I'll probably ditch it too.
I love PocketPlayer, but the external display plugin is so slow and just seems terribly unstable.
thelostsoul said:
'tis true.
I'm going to play around with it more and if it seems faster or more stable than WMP I'll use it. Otherwise, I'll probably ditch it too.
I love PocketPlayer, but the external display plugin is so slow and just seems terribly unstable.
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Yup, PP is very unstable and the plugin makes the whole phone really damn slow.
In the other hand, WMP is quite fast for me. ANd I never experienced even one single crash with it (except using Oxios memory tools before). Only the way of opening files in WMP pis*es me off.
After a day of playing around, I've decided I don't like either WMP or AudioManager...lol
Not sure which I'll be sticking with yet....
thelostsoul said:
After a day of playing around, I've decided I don't like either WMP or AudioManager...lol
Not sure which I'll be sticking with yet....
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LOL
well WM6 does support external screen already. So lets hope for it, coz then we can use any player we want and with small update it should display also informations on the external screen. But guess it's still a looong way
thelostsoul said:
Nothing from AudioManager should have overwritten anything else.
Therefore, go to your \windows\ directory and look at the files in the zip archive. There you can see exactly which files to delete. To get the buttons back, go back to the HKLM\Software\HTC\SecondaryDsp\AudioManager and set the value to '0' instead of '1'.
As for advantages, just looks nice imho. I didn't really play with it yet.
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I‘ve already put these files in \Windows and created a DWORD named AudioManager in HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\SecondaryDsp and set it to 1, but nothing happened. The external music keys still assign to WMP. Somebody knows why?
You might need the more recent ROM update. The 4.x ones...What version do you have?
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You might need the more recent ROM update. The 4.x ones...What version do you have?
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I have a singapore rom 1.32.707.0 in my phone. Where to download a 4.x rom?
Oh. Check with the HTC website for your region or whatever branding is on your phone, their site.
The 4.x ROMs are for USA (not sure if EUR has them yet), but can be downloaded from here:
http://www.america.htc.com/support/3125/software-downloads.html
Note, however, that you may need to unlock your device completely (including CID) before installing a ROM from a different region. Instructions are on this forum.
thelostsoul said:
Oh. Check with the HTC website for your region or whatever branding is on your phone, their site.
The 4.x ROMs are for USA (not sure if EUR has them yet), but can be downloaded from here:
http://www.america.htc.com/support/3125/software-downloads.html
Note, however, that you may need to unlock your device completely (including CID) before installing a ROM from a different region. Instructions are on this forum.
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Thx a lot, I'll try it.
Hi,
Just a couple of questions to ask.
Fist of all I did install HTC`s audio manager and its no different from the wmplayer. Only better at fast forwarding . Since the external display shows exactly the same things with both the players, I assume it is some kind of seperate driver, that "interconnects" with other software. Who ever wrote that piece of code that controlls the play/prev/next buttons , should be executed for stupidity... Was it SO difficult to add a fast forward ability omg. Does anyone know how to add such a function?
Also, one more thing I have installed PocketPlayer, but I cannot find anything concerning the external display thing... I cannot find any plugins, or options. Can someone please enlighten me?
I absolutely love this phone, (and since it cost me 170 euros...) but I wish I fast forward the player with out having to open the phone...
Thanks
For PocketPlayer you want the WM_Host plugin version 2.0. Once you copy the DLLs to the PP directory, you need to open PP and the Plugin controls panel then configure the plugin. FastForward should be supported in PP.
Thanks so much... I did what you said, I enabled the plugin, but still, no fast forward. Dunno maybe its just a crappy wmp plugin in the first place...
Hmm, you're right. I never really needed it though so I guess that's why I never noticed...
Post what you want on the Conduits forums. They're usually pretty good with filling feature requests. I bugged them about getting support for the External Screen on the StrTrk for a couple months and even though they said it seemed impossible, they finally got it
It seems like...we can all easily build ROMs....if you're in here, you're diggin in with dcd....
What we need is a list of OEMs that people can add into their ROMs.
For example...I found Arcsoft MMS: 4.2.8.1 OEM.
Go grab it here:
http://sudermatt.com/files/Optional_MMS_4281_10-29-07.zip
Simply unzip and drop it into the OEM folder....
Be aware...you'd better know your Carrier MMS Settings before attempting this one......
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Be aware...you'd better know your Carrier MMS Settings before attempting this one......
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actually, if youre using it with my kitchen, the carrier packages should do the mms configuration for you. I've not tested 4.2.8.1 (i dont have vzw) but I was told it worked right off the bat.
It didn't for me....I had to dig around for a posting that gave the right settings.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10210
Of course....with OEMizer....I can easily create an rgu file with the settings built into the OEM I make and Cook in!
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It didn't for me.
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I will work on this. 3.0 and 4.2 must use different keys.
is there a cab for this version?
Here are some of the OEMs I use in my personal build...
Here is my mortscript OEM.
This binds the voice dialing key to a mortscript of mine for toggling the cellular data connection. Holding button 5 will connect if disconnected, or will disconnect (and disable) if connected. Script is included.
I use it to shut off cellular data at home, which is the only way ive found to make activesync use wifi for connecting back to mail2web.
Hi, how do you build an OEM, to insert in a rom? I would like to add aim 2.0 and a few other files
DCD, is there a OEM for HTC Home that you used to include in your custom versions? The one that has the today-settings panel?
idenkilla,
Believe me...it's not drag and drop...you have to dig in and get your geek on.
OEMizer is an app (search for it) that seems to help the process. I haven't really used it yet to turn cabs or other folder apps (those that do not require installation), into cookable OEM folders. It looks like it will work. I hope to have some time this weekend (its raining all weekend in LA) to play with it.
I will put up some sort of tutorial when I get it figured out. At least covering the simple stuff I understand.
I'm no programmer. I dabble. My big brained friends say, things like, "you know just enough to really 'f' things up" "you code works...unintelligable...but it seems to work".
Go into one of the OEM folders in the kitchen. Find one that is pretty simple that you have a good idea what the app is about. Look at the Option.xml file. Open the rgu file in notepad.
In OEMizer, do something really simple, like owner information, and build the OEM....look at it....you'll see what's going on....
What I don't really get is, the folder apps....I will have to tinker
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It didn't for me....I had to dig around for a posting that gave the right settings.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10210
Of course....with OEMizer....I can easily create an rgu file with the settings built into the OEM I make and Cook in!
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Hmm, I couldn't get 4.2 to work on mine even using the settings for the 6700. I wonder what is different for you as compared to mine?
I can't remember all the steps I took....but here goes
The mms app only had one connection listed.
In the Registery, it was listed under some directory.
I remember seeing the registery directory "test" having the verizon settings...I modded those to match what the post said.
I copied "test" into the same directory as the default one.
Then I had to change a registry entry to show 2 connection settings in the application
Then I changed another registry entry to indicate which was the default connection I wanted to use.
Then I added a registry entry for my phone number.
Then I think it started working....
I cooked another ROM last night, so I have to redo all this stuff...I'll walk thru the steps again and repost.
But THIS time....I'm going to put it all down and use OEMizer so I don't ever have to do it again.
I'm really starting to see a LOT of value in that application....
working on integrating all my favs as oems into dcd's but I still have a way to go i suppose... keep getting the registry building errors.... blah
registry build error means you have non-unicode text in a reg file you edited somewhere. Make sure to open and save the file that causes the error with microsoft word, and save as, text, unicode encoding... That should eliminate those errors. a lot of text editor say they are saving as unicode, but don't stick strictly to the standard.
PackageCreater Rulez!
sudermatt said:
idenkilla,
Believe me...it's not drag and drop...you have to dig in and get your geek on.
OEMizer is an app (search for it) that seems to help the process.
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Actually, there is an app out there which pretty much does make it drag and drop.
Search on this site for the phrase "packagecreator". It was originally written and posted in one of the other forums here (i think the last version was 5.4).
It will open a cab, and export it and all of it's keys into a neatly written OEM folder. It even has the ability to mass-rename files in an OEM to avoid name conflicts when cooking.
This little beauty has worked for me on well over 99% (I can't claim 100% because I'm sure there's something out there that didn't work) of the OEMs I've created.
I find the program to be almost as valauble as the kitchen itself.
Jim
dcd1182 said:
Here are some of the OEMs I use in my personal build...
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dcd1182 Thanks for all the work on this I have question about the oems you posted. I just started to play with the kitchen and when I add the HTC_XButton2_0_30995 the BuildOS gives me this error.
The file 'temp\dump\testsearch.bmp' already exists.
After doing some research it looks like the file is in both the HTC_XButton and AdobeReader is it ok to just delete one of them and try to run the BuildOS again?
Thanks,
dolivas
dolivas said:
dcd1182 Thanks for all the work on this I have question about the oems you posted. I just started to play with the kitchen and when I add the HTC_XButton2_0_30995 the BuildOS gives me this error.
The file 'temp\dump\testsearch.bmp' already exists.
After doing some research it looks like the file is in both the HTC_XButton and AdobeReader is it ok to just delete one of them and try to run the BuildOS again?
Thanks,
dolivas
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They are the same picture, it's fine to delete one, but this is a bug in buildos that should be fixed, it should prompt the user to keep existing, rename, or overwrite...
paynej said:
Actually, there is an app out there which pretty much does make it drag and drop.
Search on this site for the phrase "packagecreator". It was originally written and posted in one of the other forums here (i think the last version was 5.4).
It will open a cab, and export it and all of it's keys into a neatly written OEM folder. It even has the ability to mass-rename files in an OEM to avoid name conflicts when cooking.
This little beauty has worked for me on well over 99% (I can't claim 100% because I'm sure there's something out there that didn't work) of the OEMs I've created.
I find the program to be almost as valauble as the kitchen itself.
Jim
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Package creator 5.4 works great, I've been using it for quite a while creating my OEM's. I use this combined with Mobile Registry Editor to extract stuff from the registry to put into the OEM so I don't have to keep setting stuff up every time I flash. For instance I have Slingplayer mobile in an OEM all configured and ready to go.
htc home 2.0.814.722
paynej said:
Actually, there is an app out there which pretty much does make it drag and drop.
Search on this site for the phrase "packagecreator". It was originally written and posted in one of the other forums here (i think the last version was 5.4).
It will open a cab, and export it and all of it's keys into a neatly written OEM folder. It even has the ability to mass-rename files in an OEM to avoid name conflicts when cooking.
This little beauty has worked for me on well over 99% (I can't claim 100% because I'm sure there's something out there that didn't work) of the OEMs I've created.
I find the program to be almost as valauble as the kitchen itself.
Jim
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If your still looking for package creator heres a link. http://rs62.rapidshare.com/files/78803302/package_creator.rar
I've had some "conversations" with others about how the stock VZW roms, at least with the applications I use, are noticeably faster than the dcd roms (I have nothing against the dcd roms - they are great). This includes the original stock rom and the new updated rom.
So last night I decided to stay up late to do some benchmark testing with the updated rom and the dcd 3.2.6 rom - let me just say that it blew trying to do this since I had already updated to the new vzw rom and had to go through that entire "hell" process in getting it all "fixed" in order to get the dcd rom installed.
Anyway, needless to say, I forgot to save the benchmark logs, both times, before flashing (thats what happens when you are tired). Now you are probably wondering "what good then does this thread serve" - I'll tell you.
I used the application SKTools for the testing - in doing so, that was the only application installed on the device and testing proceeded AFTER all the sktools optimization and tweaks were run.
Without hardcore numbers, here are my usage impressions:
SKTools did very little to improve the performance of the updated stock vzw rom. There was an improvement, but not enough to justify spending money on the application (it isnt free, but comes with a trial period).
SKTools, however, SIGNIFICANTLY sped up the performance (and even freed some extra memory) of the DCD rom to the point where the dcd rom is now noticeably faster than the stock rom (again, I've had different experiences than other users, but I know I'm not alone). To be sure, I then installed a bunch of applications I generally use and saw no noticeable decrease in performance with the DCD Rom after running SKTools. I continue to run certain programs within SKTools in order to keep the dcd rom in top shape.
The program is not free (http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html) but it comes with a time-limited trial version, enough time to optimize and tweak the device to its top performance.
I'm going to continue to test both roms (its going to be a long weekend of flashing and calling tech support) but wanted to offer this up for others to take a look into and post their impressions.
Post benchmarks please Numbers don't lie..
Yes, and also, since I also have SKTools, please post exactly what you did with SKTools to increase performance. There is a lot of tweaks and options in SKTools so users (like me) need to know which ones you picked to increase the performance.
Chimp (Tom)
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Yes, and also, since I also have SKTools, please post exactly what you did with SKTools to increase performance. There is a lot of tweaks and options in SKTools so users (like me) need to know which ones you picked to increase the performance.
Chimp (Tom)
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All of them
Honestly, I ran every performance enhancement and tweak that SKTools allowed
I havent played around with it yet as to whether running all of them are necessary but it sure didnt hurt anything.
As for benchmark numbers - I'm going to have to think about it. Getting that would require going through the entire official VZW upgrade and then downgrade process to get back to where I can run dcd roms since I know for a fact that after the performance enhancements, the dcd will run faster.
It almost doesnt pay to even try to get numbers - more like a "trust me", after running sktools performance enhancements and tweaks with a dcd rom, you'll love it
I can, though, get numbers for the current dcd rom - if someone that has the vzw mr1 update installed wants to get those numbers we can post both
I'll see what I can do this weekend
Yes, and also, since I also have SKTools, please post exactly what you did with SKTools to increase performance. There is a lot of tweaks and options in SKTools so users (like me) need to know which ones you picked to increase the performance.
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yes pleasy, tell us what you did in sktools... i bought the program and i hardly used it... i want to take advantage of all the tweaks it can take...
thanks man!!!
agreed... more detail on what you did in SKtools other then "everything" so the novice user like my self may benifit from the the programs enhancements. other wise this thread is useless
Well let's see...
Under "System Tweaks":
a) Choose "Optimize" and run all the available options. I'm not going to list each one - just run them all. Also, since I only have the trial I could only choose the 6 options they presented but it helped tremendously. I'll probably purchase the program but am holding off for right now
b) Choose "Clean Up" and run "Invalid Registry Entries" and "Invalid Registry Values" Then run "Registry Optimizer"
c) Choose "Maintenance" and run "Windows Startup" - delete all the programs you dont want to run at startup (frees up memory)
Then I ran the FreeUP Ram program (part of sktools but installed seperately) to, well, free up RAM. I run this program occassionally to help with performance.
Thats all I did and saw a huge improvement in the dcd 3.2.6 rom performance. If you have the registered version of SKTools, you will be able to choose more options than what I presented here. Whether it will help further is not known since I couldnt try it.
deeznuts: When you picked the optimize function, which check mark did you have selected? If you click the Action buttion on the lower left, one of the selections (Performance, Memory, Stability, Maximum Memory) should be checked.
Which one did you use?
Chimp (Tom)
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deeznuts: When you picked the optimize function, which check mark did you have selected? If you click the Action buttion on the lower left, one of the selections (Performance, Memory, Stability, Maximum Memory) should be checked.
Which one did you use?
Chimp (Tom)
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Performance - I think that is the default
Its possible that using different profiles on a dcd rom than on the vzw official update rom will produce similar performance between the two but I only experimented with the performance profile on both roms. Quite frankly, I'm happy now with the dcd rom and no longer see a reason to go back to the vzw rom. I also dont have the time or patience to experiment with all the different profiles on both roms - if someone wants to give it a go, be my guest.
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Well let's see...
Under "System Tweaks":
b) Choose "Clean Up" and run "Invalid Registry Entries" and "Invalid Registry Values" Then run "Registry Optimizer"
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I did that with 3.25 and HHC and another program which I can't remember did not function until I reinstalled it.
I use DinarSoft's Memaid and have it optimized for speed and I have not looked back since.
I didn't notice any increase in performance whatsoever, matter of fact seems a little slower to me, I think DCD has spent enough time with this device that he has it very optimized to begin with, I find it hard to beleive that a "generic" program could possibly increase performance any further than the personal attention and knowledge dcd has put into optimizing his rom.
I've found that SKTools slows down the performance and can lead to registry errors and instability. No thanks.
nonegiven said:
I've found that SKTools slows down the performance and can lead to registry errors and instability. No thanks.
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yes, if you dont know what you are doing and just arbitrarily delete things that the program tells you are "okay" to delete.
Its not for complete noobs - if you dont know what you are doing you can mess up your device. The program is an advance tweak program - not for your average user to just click here and there and then click "go!" with the hope that all will be well.
Its no different than playing around with a kitchen or flashing a custom rom - if you dont know what you are doing, you will run into problems.
jjlwork said:
I didn't notice any increase in performance whatsoever, matter of fact seems a little slower to me, I think DCD has spent enough time with this device that he has it very optimized to begin with, I find it hard to beleive that a "generic" program could possibly increase performance any further than the personal attention and knowledge dcd has put into optimizing his rom.
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Depending on what you did, your results may be different. I found a significant improvement with dcd's rom after running a few of the system tweaks.
And unless anyone actually did re-coding of files, no rom is going to be "optimized". Optimization is more than just leaving out unnecessary files and/or putting in newer versions. Programs like sktools actually change system settings for the os, which usually are not easily changeable without getting into the root of the system and re-coding system files after installation, deeply modifying the regsitry, or re-coding the install files prior to installation. I doubt anyone is doing most of these with their roms.
But again, depending on what you do with these programs, your results will vary - play around, its easy to fix if something goes wrong (which it shouldnt)
deeznuts2 said:
yes, if you dont know what you are doing and just arbitrarily delete things that the program tells you are "okay" to delete.
Its not for complete noobs - if you dont know what you are doing you can mess up your device. The program is an advance tweak program - not for your average user to just click here and there and then click "go!" with the hope that all will be well.
Its no different than playing around with a kitchen or flashing a custom rom - if you dont know what you are doing, you will run into problems.
Depending on what you did, your results may be different. I found a significant improvement with dcd's rom after running a few of the system tweaks.
And unless anyone actually did re-coding of files, no rom is going to be "optimized". Optimization is more than just leaving out unnecessary files and/or putting in newer versions. Programs like sktools actually change system settings for the os, which usually are not easily changeable without getting into the root of the system and re-coding system files after installation, deeply modifying the regsitry, or re-coding the install files prior to installation. I doubt anyone is doing most of these with their roms.
But again, depending on what you do with these programs, your results will vary - play around, its easy to fix if something goes wrong (which it shouldnt)
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Quite the opposite. Noobs might need a program like SKTools to guide you around WM6 but more knowledgeable users have the ability to edit the registry correctly on their own.
If SKTools works for you, I'd suggest sticking with it and not attempting any manual registry editing on your own.
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Quite the opposite. Noobs might need a program like SKTools to guide you around WM6 but more knowledgeable users have the ability to edit the registry correctly on their own.
If SKTools works for you, I'd suggest sticking with it and not attempting any manual registry editing on your own.
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Please dont assume you know me or what I am capable of doing. I'm well rehearsed in file system modification, thank you very much. That doesnt mean that using programs like SKtools are useless. Nor does it mean that anyone can use it - you still need to understand what the changes mean and what they will end up doing. I would never tell a "noob" to just click on anything in the program. I only suggested that here since folks on this forum are not your typical user.
If you dont like the program, fine. I found it to be a great help hence the reason for posting.
I wonder if dcd uses this program when building his own roms...
In my experience I've found the following:
DCD has tweaked the hell out of these roms for performance. I'm sure he hasn’t performed every tweak possible.. but he's done a lot.
Programs like Tweaks2k2 and SKtools when run across the board may in fact undo many of the tweaks performed by DCD. Because they are designed to work off of the stock settings.
For example DCD may have tweaked some Cache setting entry in the registry from 4K to 16K because he found the performance to be best... A program Like SK tools may change that to 8k, Because 8k would normally improve performance over the default 4k setting.
Also.. those of you who do a full backup (including the Registry) Then install a DCD rom, then restore may have also overwritten DCD default tweaks. So a Tool like this could increase performance for you… more than someone who didn’t perform a restore.
When you install a DCD Rom, you should re-install your software either manually or with an automated tool.. restoring from backup is probably not the best idea because you risk losing the latest performance tweaks. This is the cause of LOTS of the people reporting that "this or that" isn't working on theirs... but it works on everyone elses... They overwrote it.
You are better off finding these tweaks, going into the Reg and seeing what you HAVE vs what the tweak says will perform better… you may already be optimized or MORE optimized than the tool would make you.
In the end it's really about individual user preference and how you use your device. As we see in this thread for some the tools are great, for others.. not so good.
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Depending on what you did, your results may be different. I found a significant improvement with dcd's rom after running a few of the system tweaks.
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All of them
Honestly, I ran every performance enhancement and tweak that SKTools allowed
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Okay, so you can't recall or won't post any specifics of what tweaks you did and you said earlier you did ALL the tweaks SKT offers, then you say "a few of the system tweaks." Of course, "depending on what you did" doesn't jive at all with "Honestly, I ran every ..... tweak..." IF you got improved results after SKT, you should surely recall something. What was the original result vs the improved? You can't recall how much improvement, but it was "significant." You can't recall ANY real benchmark results and you "lost the log files both times." How convenient.
Previously we witnessed your unwillingness in another thread to list ANY of your specific software (even when I sent you a private message) which you said runs better on a stock VZW ROM vs DCD. Claims that can't be tested, of course, are very convenient.
Skepticism about someone's motives and truthfulness result from making unverifiable, undocumented claims. Do yourself a favor and post some specifics.
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And unless anyone actually did re-coding of files, no rom is going to be "optimized". Optimization is more than just leaving out unnecessary files and/or putting in newer versions. Programs like sktools actually change system settings for the os, which usually are not easily changeable without getting into the root of the system and re-coding system files after installation, deeply modifying the registry, or re-coding the install files prior to installation. I doubt anyone is doing most of these with their roms.
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WOW..
First: SKtools is NOT "Recoding files" All SKtools does is make registry changes for performance.. thats it! And those are pretty easy if you know how to use a registry editor.. (the registry is where those "System settings for the OS" are that you are talking about)
Second.. Thats the point of a DCD rom.. when you install a DCD rom The tweaks that he's tested are already there. He's building a rom that has more features and performs better than stock. He's not just some hack who is removing things.. He's recompiling the entire rom. I'm not sure to what extent DCD actually recodes any files... but I DO know that he includes custom files that others may have made / recoded.
The fact that you would even suggest that SKtools has the ABILITY to do more than DCD or GC14 or any other experienced mobile developer takes the gold medal for dumbest thing I've heard this month.
i've tried
honestly i've tried those programs and i believe while they are tweaking some things they undo some of the stuff that dcd has done to make the rom work like it does. All i use its tweaks2k2 for a few options that i really like but no more sktools for me
After trying several ROMS I decided to learn a little about UC. I have slowly been tweaking SDconfig to load my favorite cabs and a few registry changes. This is working well but I recently started thinking about overwriting cabs that come preloaded in the ROM.
IE: Some roms have opera and others do not. I load the latest opera during UC whether it is needed or not. I know the cooks put a lot of thought into their roms so I am wondering if this might have an adverse affect on those roms that come preloaded with the cabs I am overwriting.
You've just discovered the reason why running UC indiscriminately isn't always a great idea. I myself prefer sashimi, because you can run it after you've taken the time to poke around a while; it's also easy to change things up on the fly.
Sashimi is a great way to go. You have some automatic and some manual options. Stuff that comes in ROMs put in the manual area, and the rest of your stuff, stick in manual.
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After trying several ROMS I decided to learn a little about UC. I have slowly been tweaking SDconfig to load my favorite cabs and a few registry changes. This is working well but I recently started thinking about overwriting cabs that come preloaded in the ROM.
IE: Some roms have opera and others do not. I load the latest opera during UC whether it is needed or not. I know the cooks put a lot of thought into their roms so I am wondering if this might have an adverse affect on those roms that come preloaded with the cabs I am overwriting.
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One of the adverse affects can be if there is a double installation of a program. Usually it won't happen, all important files and reg settings are usually overwritten. The one that can happen for sure and it is really not a big deal is that you lose some storage space. One of the reasons I leave out so many core programs from my ROM. There are different versions that people like and it is simple enough to install the one you like.
I love UC now that I use it all the time. Before I started cooking I never used and I can't belive I waited so long to try it.
What's the advantage of UC over spb backup?
XDA_UC
its been done by NOONSKI and i must say its not far behind in the competition. What i liked most was the extent of customisation i could do with his project and his help.
Though the script's main aim is to start the customisation at 2nd boot once autorun or runcc are complete but i have completely removed autorun runcc or even checkautorun from my rom.
and have made XDA_UC to install all my rom customisation files as well as all the cabs or registries and many other stuff that the user has in the XDA_UC folder in the storage card.
so everything gets covered on 1st boot and on 2nd boot your phone is ready for full use.
People have been liking sashimi as well but i never got time to really understand the whole concept. will look out soon.
as for now XDA_UC is far more simple and fast. and improving.
I started using uc because I could copy folders with shortcuts directly to my programs directory. That way I don't have to reinstall the programs. It saves time and I can arrange the shortcuts exactly where I want.
I am currently setting up UC to run manually after I flash. I will look into XDA_UC. I notice Special Pro Classic runs it and it runs every cab on my card.
I have a large number of incorrect words in my HD2's dictionary. How do I go about deleting them, without hard resetting my phone?
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David
http://samsamuel.co.uk/news.php?id=7
could be useful?
Thanks, but that seems to be a list of words added by HTC to the dictionary. I've added a bunch of words spelt incorrectly, like yoy for you etc. Where are those words stored? Any ideas?
have you tried et9mywords.exe? its been a while since i used winmo but im pretty sure you can use it to remove words as well as add them. (thats why i posted that link, to point you to et9mywords and HTCMDB.txt because theyre the two things i know of related to custom words.)
Unfortunately I don't seem to have that program on my HD2. Could be the ROM I'm running. Could I download it maybe?
it should be in the windows folder, and its possibly hidden, so you would need to 'show all files' (i think)
As for download, not sure if it needs any reg enttries, but heres the exe
I copied the file to the \windows directory, and it did run ok, but it didn't pick up any of my added words. I think you may be right, in that it is missing a registry entry. Any ideas?
nah sorry, not without a running rom to examine. Have a look in that txt file i mentioned, could be they get written to there, its all a bit of a hazy memory.