3 Players now that work with the external screen:
WMP, Pocket Player, and HTC Audio Manager!
For HTC Audio Manager, go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313550
Take the contents of the "AudioManager" Folder and extract them all to your /windows/ directory (NOT just the folder, the files inside the folder need to be take out and put in the windows directory).
Using a registry explorer, go to HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\SecondaryDsp
There should already be a registry entry there called "AudioManager", if it's there, set it to "1".
If it's not there, create it and set it to one (I can't say for sure if it'll work or not though).
Restart your phone, and voila! A new, working MediaPlayer!
In the original topic, rickwyatt says "put in on your storage card".
As I have just 4MB storage left, I want to put it on my storage card. Is it possible?
Also, what advantage over WMP does HTC AM have?
yes it is possible to install on storage/storage card, cab-installer made by me is available here:
http://ren.redsys.ru/_private/HTC.Audio.Manager.WCE.BY.cab
But you need to copy all these files to \Windows\ directory to make it on external screen
It seems Audio Manager files should be extracted to \windows, if the external music keys need to work with it. Also the 'AudioManager' registry value is not found by default, so create it as a new DWORD value and assign it with '1'.
Yet I don't see any value this Audio Manager brings over on top of WMP, though it has a nice ipod like interface and supports playlists. Anyone found anything interesting about this new AM?
oh hell no dont intall this program, its not worth it.
Very diffcult to add playlist you have to add files one at a time
I was hoping an equalizer but does not have one
Im struggling to remove and set the buttons back to for WM player.
Damn stupid fucl<ing program
paypalbid said:
oh hell no dont intall this program, its not worth it.
Very diffcult to add playlist you have to add files one at a time
I was hoping an equalizer but does not have one
Im struggling to remove and set the buttons back to for WM player.
Damn stupid fucl<ing program
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Nothing from AudioManager should have overwritten anything else.
Therefore, go to your \windows\ directory and look at the files in the zip archive. There you can see exactly which files to delete. To get the buttons back, go back to the HKLM\Software\HTC\SecondaryDsp\AudioManager and set the value to '0' instead of '1'.
As for advantages, just looks nice imho. I didn't really play with it yet.
Thanks ladies.
I installed and it worked. However I do NOT se any advantage over the WMP. This only looks cool because "dude, it's a HTC soft, dude". I'll stick with my WMP and occasionaly Pocket Player. No need for this
nevermind said:
Thanks ladies.
I installed and it worked. However I do NOT se any advantage over the WMP. This only looks cool because "dude, it's a HTC soft, dude". I'll stick with my WMP and occasionaly Pocket Player. No need for this
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'tis true.
I'm going to play around with it more and if it seems faster or more stable than WMP I'll use it. Otherwise, I'll probably ditch it too.
I love PocketPlayer, but the external display plugin is so slow and just seems terribly unstable.
thelostsoul said:
'tis true.
I'm going to play around with it more and if it seems faster or more stable than WMP I'll use it. Otherwise, I'll probably ditch it too.
I love PocketPlayer, but the external display plugin is so slow and just seems terribly unstable.
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Yup, PP is very unstable and the plugin makes the whole phone really damn slow.
In the other hand, WMP is quite fast for me. ANd I never experienced even one single crash with it (except using Oxios memory tools before). Only the way of opening files in WMP pis*es me off.
After a day of playing around, I've decided I don't like either WMP or AudioManager...lol
Not sure which I'll be sticking with yet....
thelostsoul said:
After a day of playing around, I've decided I don't like either WMP or AudioManager...lol
Not sure which I'll be sticking with yet....
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LOL
well WM6 does support external screen already. So lets hope for it, coz then we can use any player we want and with small update it should display also informations on the external screen. But guess it's still a looong way
thelostsoul said:
Nothing from AudioManager should have overwritten anything else.
Therefore, go to your \windows\ directory and look at the files in the zip archive. There you can see exactly which files to delete. To get the buttons back, go back to the HKLM\Software\HTC\SecondaryDsp\AudioManager and set the value to '0' instead of '1'.
As for advantages, just looks nice imho. I didn't really play with it yet.
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I‘ve already put these files in \Windows and created a DWORD named AudioManager in HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\SecondaryDsp and set it to 1, but nothing happened. The external music keys still assign to WMP. Somebody knows why?
You might need the more recent ROM update. The 4.x ones...What version do you have?
thelostsoul said:
You might need the more recent ROM update. The 4.x ones...What version do you have?
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I have a singapore rom 1.32.707.0 in my phone. Where to download a 4.x rom?
Oh. Check with the HTC website for your region or whatever branding is on your phone, their site.
The 4.x ROMs are for USA (not sure if EUR has them yet), but can be downloaded from here:
http://www.america.htc.com/support/3125/software-downloads.html
Note, however, that you may need to unlock your device completely (including CID) before installing a ROM from a different region. Instructions are on this forum.
thelostsoul said:
Oh. Check with the HTC website for your region or whatever branding is on your phone, their site.
The 4.x ROMs are for USA (not sure if EUR has them yet), but can be downloaded from here:
http://www.america.htc.com/support/3125/software-downloads.html
Note, however, that you may need to unlock your device completely (including CID) before installing a ROM from a different region. Instructions are on this forum.
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Thx a lot, I'll try it.
Hi,
Just a couple of questions to ask.
Fist of all I did install HTC`s audio manager and its no different from the wmplayer. Only better at fast forwarding . Since the external display shows exactly the same things with both the players, I assume it is some kind of seperate driver, that "interconnects" with other software. Who ever wrote that piece of code that controlls the play/prev/next buttons , should be executed for stupidity... Was it SO difficult to add a fast forward ability omg. Does anyone know how to add such a function?
Also, one more thing I have installed PocketPlayer, but I cannot find anything concerning the external display thing... I cannot find any plugins, or options. Can someone please enlighten me?
I absolutely love this phone, (and since it cost me 170 euros...) but I wish I fast forward the player with out having to open the phone...
Thanks
For PocketPlayer you want the WM_Host plugin version 2.0. Once you copy the DLLs to the PP directory, you need to open PP and the Plugin controls panel then configure the plugin. FastForward should be supported in PP.
Thanks so much... I did what you said, I enabled the plugin, but still, no fast forward. Dunno maybe its just a crappy wmp plugin in the first place...
Hmm, you're right. I never really needed it though so I guess that's why I never noticed...
Post what you want on the Conduits forums. They're usually pretty good with filling feature requests. I bugged them about getting support for the External Screen on the StrTrk for a couple months and even though they said it seemed impossible, they finally got it
Related
Please make sure that your device is cid and sim unlocked before installing the rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...80#post1354180 Also put your device into bootloader manually by pressing the camera button and softreset at the same time
Ok first I just want to say thanks to eaglesteve for helping me test new BT stacks however, I was unable to get a bt stack that would do file transfer to and from phone or laptop and still have it work for bt headsets. I should point out that the bt stack that is in there does work just not for everything some of the files are from the diamond and some are from ap4 and I personally have tested using BT headphones, BT mouse and BT keyboard all at the same time and it works pretty well. I also want to thank ervius for helping me with xip porting and to cmonex for helping with anything I needed help with and thanks to Anunnaki for the animated startup and anyone else I forgot about
I added new splash screens that are in line with the startup theme from my last rom, hope u guys like as I did it myself
Ultra Vanilla: build 19521.1.1.0
added total commander over file explorer
removed stuff from cpl reg
added custsk to config.txt
fixed welcomehead startup
switched band to auto
changed quickgps reg settings to 7 days
changed default phone skin
enabled autotimezone
added tcpmp and all plugins in place of wmp
added easy config for wimp with hardrest option (will be explained in download folder)
Of course this is a uc compliant rom if you are unfamiliar with this then click on the link to find out how to make a sdconfig.txt file so all your apps are loaded automatically http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337
I have removed about 22mb of stuff but I kept all the reg settings and intflashfiles.dat settings also. So if you want to add any of that stuff back into the rom just copy it to your device and it should work.
There are no screen shots as this is Ultra Vanilla so there is not much to show off
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SPL 1.2
Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JUMZDFSC
RapidShare: http://rapidshare.com/files/124525912/irus_ultra_vanilla.zip.html
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SPL 3.5
Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WIHKNYO2
RapidShare: http://rapidshare.com/files/124540958/irus_ultra_lite_spl_3.5.zip.html
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this should have just about everything you can think of. file size is 113.13MB enjoy
Addons - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1PNOJ4GM
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incredible!!!
thanks for sharing.
do you know about registry editor from total commander? Looks is not included
looks the button assignation for networks is lost (right side, over power button)and commmgr.exe is not present
Irus,
I just installed it and have the following questions/concerns:
1. I can't find comm manager so I can't turn on wifi.
2. My previous taxis/irus rom did not have any keyboards installed and I liked that about ultra-lite.
3. no real vga to alter dpi (can I install this separately?).
apap said:
Irus,
I just installed it and have the following questions/concerns:
1. I can't find comm manager so I can't turn on wifi.
2. My previous taxis/irus rom did not have any keyboards installed and I liked that about ultra-lite.
3. no real vga to alter dpi (can I install this separately?).
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different people use different comm managers so i left it out
i kept default keyboard so people could choose their own
you can install that yourself
Ok.
Could you (or someone) point me to a comm manager and the realvga software to download.
Thanks!
apap said:
Ok.
Could you (or someone) point me to a comm manager and the realvga software to download.
Thanks!
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im so sorry i forgot to add a addons package. i will do that tomorrow it will have almost everything you can think of.
Camera
Does the camera work on SPL 1.2 ??
hammermedia said:
Does the camera work on SPL 1.2 ??
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it should, it does for me
I am uploading the addons it will be posted in the post 1 in about 5 mins
beginner said:
thanks for sharing.
do you know about registry editor from total commander? Looks is not included
looks the button assignation for networks is lost (right side, over power button)and commmgr.exe is not present
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the comm manager is located in the deleted folder just copy it along the other files that are assoiated with it to the windows dir and it should work
GPS is good this time. Cold fix took 1 minutes and 44 seconds outdoor under clear blue sky. The same spot that I stood when I tested the Chinese ROM, which incidentally took more than 6 minutes. But Sprite Terminator still does not work. I think it does not work in WM6.1 period. With Wm6.0 it works.
Noticed an error when trying to navigate to bluetooth folder.
Also, it is strange that a number of my application acquired a generic icon for the application rather than the proper icon. Does anyone else have this problem? Edit: icon appeared after a soft reset.
Still installing application, but it feels fast. I think you have a winner here.
eaglesteve said:
GPS is good this time. Cold fix took 1 minutes and 44 seconds outdoor under clear blue sky. The same spot that I stood when I tested the Chinese ROM, which incidentally took more than 6 minutes. But Sprite Terminator still does not work. I think it does not work in WM6.1 period. With Wm6.0 it works.
Noticed an error when trying to navigate to bluetooth folder.
Also, it is strange that a number of my application acquired a generic icon for the application rather than the proper icon. Does anyone else have this problem? Edit: icon appeared after a soft reset.
Still installing application, but it feels fast. I think you have a winner here.
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to be honest i noticed better gps fix but i thought it might be tomtom7 as i got a cold fix in under 5 min from in my house and did not use quickgps. so glad to here its not just me. also i know about BT problem i was trying to get the ms stack and the other stack that you tried that worked on file transfers, to coexist but no luck. glad you like it
Truly admire your passion, will only possible to test your latest on week-end.
irus,
I thought you had WIMP cooked in, but can't seem to find it.
Your spalsh screen is nice. The only thing I'm uncomfortable is the fact that you advertise to the potential thief how to do hard and soft reset. I'd rather that info be extremely difficult for the thief to obtain.
Cheers.
I wonder if it is just me. I noticed that occasionally the device seems to refuse to reflesh /update the screen, showing completely wrong info and image. For example, the icon of application often does not get instantly updated after an installation. When I was using my eWallet, when I click on the Field tab, it is not showing the screen for that but from whatever was left behind just before this. Some strange behaviour.
There is something strange with some drivers i think.. TT6 (i've installed the common application for anu LITE rom) screen refresh is very slow, changing menus I see a "fading" slow effect and a sloooow refresh rate. (you used net cf 3.5 right?)
Other suggestion
1)I will suggest to remove customer experience
2) Default sounds aren't working
3) too many SIP, they waste resources and memory
sergiopi said:
There is something strange with some drivers i think.. TT6 (i've installed the common application for anu LITE rom) screen refresh is very slow, changing menus I see a "fading" slow effect and a sloooow refresh rate. (you used net cf 3.5 right?)
Other suggestion
1)I will suggest to remove customer experience
2) Default sounds aren't working
3) too many SIP, they waste resources and memory
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I think so too. The refreshing of screen is not functioning normally.
Anyone having problem setting up email accounts and connecting to them? I took several attempts before I managed to set up email account. It did not see the service provider I had set up before. My service provider was strangely not on the pull down list when I tried setting it up manually. Later, after it was set up, attempt to download mail results in something to the effect of invalid settings for connection.
eaglesteve said:
irus,
I thought you had WIMP cooked in, but can't seem to find it.
Your spalsh screen is nice. The only thing I'm uncomfortable is the fact that you advertise to the potential thief how to do hard and soft reset. I'd rather that info be extremely difficult for the thief to obtain.
Cheers.
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that is a good point, i can redo it and give wrong info they keep hitting the ok button with no success
LightJacker 1.0.3
Universal backlight fix / TomTom backlight fix
for WM5 & Up
Hi guys! I just installed TomTom on my S740 and found it still has that annoying bug where the backlight keeps going off, so I decided I would write my own app to fix this problem.
It features completely transparent operation with backlight resuming normal function when the target app is not focused (i.e. when one minimizes TomTom), universal-ness so it can be applied to any app, lightweightness, and doesn't touch the system in any way.
In future, I may also expand it to support configurable key-to-key and key-to-mouse translation, to make some PocketPC-only apps usable also on the Smartphone.
For the interested, see all the details at the program's webpage.
And let me know what you think about it.
Thank you!
Thanks! I think it is a great idea!
I have been looking around for such app to keep the backlight always on when necessary - e.g. reading e-books, watching video and etc.
My feedback is it may be a little troublesome to do the link to each application you want to apply?
Is it possible to make it a background app, whereby when turned on it keep the backlight on always, but when turned off it revert back to the default setting in Power management.
Thanks.
zhuozhi211 said:
Thanks! I think it is a great idea!
I have been looking around for such app to keep the backlight always on when necessary - e.g. reading e-books, watching video and etc.
My feedback is it may be a little troublesome to do the link to each application you want to apply?
Is it possible to make it a background app, whereby when turned on it keep the backlight on always, but when turned off it revert back to the default setting in Power management.
Thanks.
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I've put on my web page an easier semi-automatic procedure for creating the link, you just have to enter the path to the executable and the name for your shortcut, and download the ready-made .lnk file (be warned that it doesn't work with firefox, though, but it does with IE and Opera.)
I don't think it's so difficult and time-consuming now
There already are apps or mortscritps that do what you want, I.e. changing the systemwide setting, but it is exactly what I don't want to do: impose additional hassle on the user having to start/stop an app, and mess with registry and systemwide settings... I wanted LightJacker to be as invisible to the use as it could.
Hi there thenext1, I tried your app and the set up was fine and it works great, so thanks very much for that. I like the way it picks up the icon from the original app, this got me thinking that you could make an adaption of your app that just injected a new icon into a shortcut for any app and that is all it would do, just to change the icon for any app and nothing else, if you see what I mean, sorry to be a little off topic but just a thought. I have some apps that have horrible Icons I would like a simple way of adding my own Icon into a shortcut. "IconJacker"
uniqueboy said:
Hi there thenext1, I tried your app and the set up was fine and it works great, so thanks very much for that. I like the way it picks up the icon from the original app, this got me thinking that you could make an adaption of your app that just injected a new icon into a shortcut for any app and that is all it would do, just to change the icon for any app and nothing else, if you see what I mean, sorry to be a little off topic but just a thought. I have some apps that have horrible Icons I would like a simple way of adding my own Icon into a shortcut. "IconJacker"
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That function is outside LightJacker's scope, anyway, you can try editing the .lnk file and changing the last path after the "?" mark to reflect a path to an .ico file on your phone, and editing the last number to be zero or remove it with the comma altogether.
I don't know if it will work.
Perfect idea! Sounds like a super program!! I have been looking for a feature like this!
A question: can it monitor several programs also? (e.g. Tomtom and igo and acrobat reader)? Seems like the shortcut generator can only support one program...
parkhaus said:
Perfect idea! Sounds like a super program!! I have been looking for a feature like this!
A question: can it monitor several programs also? (e.g. Tomtom and igo and acrobat reader)? Seems like the shortcut generator can only support one program...
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Just create a shortcut for each of your program.... be warned though, I didn't test multiple programs at once. It might not work.
Has anyone gotten this to work with an HTC Touch Pro? I've tried installing this - and after I create the shortcut, and click the master app I'm trying to keep lighted - I get the following error message:
"The file 'ljack' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file."
When I click on the ljack.exe file on it's own - I get the following message:
"LightJacker error 2"
I'd read that another program that requires a purchase, "smartlight" was incompatible with our phones, so I'm wondering if it's something unique to the Touch Pro.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
Has anyone gotten this to work with an HTC Touch Pro? I've tried installing this - and after I create the shortcut, and click the master app I'm trying to keep lighted - I get the following error message:
"The file 'ljack' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file."
When I click on the ljack.exe file on it's own - I get the following message:
"LightJacker error 2"
I'd read that another program that requires a purchase, "smartlight" was incompatible with our phones, so I'm wondering if it's something unique to the Touch Pro.
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Error 2 means that an incorrect command line was supplied - in your case, no cmd line at all.
The other error with the proper shortcut is a windows mobile generic error, and I don't know why it comes up, it should run fine as it does when start ljack.exe on its own....
Maybe your phone isn't fully app-unlocked?
A super idea for a program! however, a GUI would be nice....
command-line options are not very handy. And I think that is where the Error 2 comes from. I also had trouble using your .lnk maker.
Hmmm, your site seems to be down.
Any chance you could upload the cab here on xda?
Yes, I confirm...
I tried several times.... The website is dead since this morning. So, no chance to download this promissing application until now.
For a very similar app go here:
http://oldsap.blogspot.com/2009/02/dontsleep.html
there is a version which prevents the PPC from entering standby, and one that does it only while wifi is on. Also a great app!
arturobandini said:
Yes, I confirm...
I tried several times.... The website is dead since this morning. So, no chance to download this promissing application until now.
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You are right! Will investigate the problem.
@parkhaus: what'd be the GUI for?
I would love to have a program that keeps the backlight on when certain programs are running (Adobe reader, Tomtom, ebook reader, etc).
A menu for defining those programs would be great! making shortcuts for each program is a bit too complicated for most users.
A solution in MortScript you can find here
Note: knowledge of german language is required
parkhaus said:
I would love to have a program that keeps the backlight on when certain programs are running (Adobe reader, Tomtom, ebook reader, etc).
A menu for defining those programs would be great! making shortcuts for each program is a bit too complicated for most users.
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An utility in .NET CF can be easily made, but I absolutely don't have any spare time to do it.
Or you can use the method provided by the above users, although it's the old method of changing values in the registry.
Thankyou very much, I needed an app like this for Memory-Map OS5 (App for Off-road satnav in the UK).
I don't suppose you use winmo 6.5 do you? I have another problem with that app in 6.5 where it has icons along the bottom like 6.5 does - however, as 6.5 changes the width of the icons at the bottom, I cannot see all the icons when in the app. If there is any chance you could also code something to alter the size of the bottom buttons whilst in a certain app, that would be even better!
There is a free trial @ http://www.memory-map.co.uk/ should you care to try and code this in.
OK, I used and tested this with TomTom and Memory-Map, and all seems good.
A couple of things, however.
As the size of the app is so small, why go around duplicating it?
Personally, I found that putting LightJacker in \Program Files\LightJack and then doing my app shortcuts like this:
107#"\Program Files\LightJack\ljack.exe" \Program Files\Navigator\TomTom Navigator.exe?TomTom Navigator.exe,101
Meant that I could:
a) Only keep one copy of lightjacker for multiple apps. If there is an update, you only need replace the exe and dll once.
b) Use the shortcuts anywhere. I have one shortcut in the start menu, and one in the app folder. That way, if you have to pick an app via a folder list that starts in the root, you do not have to navigate through the windows folder to get to the start folder, which takes ages
Working on Rhodium (ATT Tilt2 - WM 6.5)
This works on my Tilt2, but with the following tweaks.
The author's site recommends this format for the .lnk file, but this didn't work for me. It produced and Error 4:
123#"\Storage Card\Program Files\GoogleMaps\ljack.exe" GoogleMaps.exe?\Storage Card\Program Files\GoogleMaps\GoogleMaps.exe,101
But using the format in the previous post, it works - the backlight stays on while this program is the front program, and the backlight dims properly when the program goes into the background or is shut down:
123#"\Storage Card\Program Files\GoogleMaps\ljack.exe" \Storage Card\Program Files\GoogleMaps\GoogleMaps.exe?GoogleMaps.exe,101
The only thing not working is the icon. Following the advice on the author's site, I used Resource Hacker to find the Resource ID for the icon, which appears to be 800. But changing that in the link file stilll results in the link showing a generic icon.
Any suggestions on how to get the proper icon to show in the Start Menu for Google Maps?
WM6.5 for HTC Surround
I know it is a little too early to ask this question but here it goes:
Is there a way to flash a WM6.5 custom ROM into the HTC Surround?
WP7 limit the full potential of the HTC Surround's excellent hardware.
No, there is not and I doubt there ever will be.
Not sure if you have even played with WP7, but if you haven't, go give it a shot. I thought it's restrictions would affect me, but I haven't had any problems.
XeNoMoRpH1030 said:
No, there is not and I doubt there ever will be.
Not sure if you have even played with WP7, but if you haven't, go give it a shot. I thought it's restrictions would affect me, but I haven't had any problems.
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I have an HTC Surround since the last couple of days. I'm "upgrading" from an HTC Touch PRO with an Energy WM6.5 Custom ROM.
I'm having a difficult time managing email file attachments, contacts and applications. WM6.5 allowed me to receive and store files in the SD card for future use.
How I store a received email attached file for later use? I don't want to keep the whole email in the inbox just to have the attached file available.
WM6.5 allowed me that, in addition I was able to connect the phone via USB and transfer that same file to any PC. WP7 can't be reconized by PCs.
That is in my opinion a major drawback gattech. I have not found a way to make the phone be reconized by my PC and found alot of people complaining becasue you can't use outlook to back up you contact and such. I would guess this is to stop people from hacking the phone but them trying to keep people from as the android boys would say rooting or the iphone guys jailbreaking is causeing the phone to be lacking a bit. I hope someone can figure out how to do it I like using outlok to keep calander and contacts backedup.
I think you have to use the Zune software for synchronization with PCs
You do use ZUNE and you can only sync with it so music pics and apps I want to put files on my phone and use them when I get to another comp or sync to outlook. When I plug my phone in it does not show up under computer it only tells me in ZUNE that a device is connected. This is a great example of Microsoft wanting to be like apple.
There is a registry hack that you can do that will allow you to throw files on to it. You still need the Zune software I believe, but it should work.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/18/registry-hack-allows-for-direct-loading-of-media-on-windows-phon/
I think if we give this phone/OS a little bit of time the developers will make this an AMAZING device.still pretty much in its infancy.
I agree i would love to see a fully functioning version of 6.5 with sense 2.5. Although slide out speakers seem kinda lame to me. id rather it been a keyboard
spl180db said:
I agree i would love to see a fully functioning version of 6.5 with sense 2.5. Although slide out speakers seem kinda lame to me. id rather it been a keyboard
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still can not violate the rom the phone? I have it in another language ... I hope you will be able to flash .. Not to mention if it is a Windows 6.5, would be very happy
So here's what I'm thinking...
Two days ago I got my nearly free HTC Surround up at AT&T... And so far, I'm so unimpressed that I've gone back to my Topaz.
Stepping up to WP7 from WM6.5 is in reality stepping down for me, because of the complete control that MSFT has kept thus far over the operations of the phone. True, several cracks and unlocking routines have emerged already, but I truely miss the root customization and the ability to do almost anything you want that came with WM6.5. So here's my question:
Is it possible now, or might it be possible, to port WM6.5 over to WP7 devices? I ask this because IMHO, this device has the hardware specs that could only have been dreamed of in WM6.5 phones and unless I'm mistaken, this phone could run WM6.5 flawlessly (In terms of the video, processor, internal storage, etc.)
Is this a possibility? Is there a chance my Surround can find some redemption in my eyes? Thanks in advance, and I hope that Surround users will start/continue to work to unlock the many hinderences of this phone (Donations! )
I'm in the same boat as you. I would love to go back to WM6.5 right now. My wife got me the SUrround when it 1st came out. I have to admit it's been incredibly stable but I can't help but wonder if the hardware will run WM6.5. I would imagine the UI would have to tweaked due to the absence of some hard keys. I really just want internet sharing and voice guided GPS Bing Maps back and I would be happy enough for now.
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I have an HTC Surround since the last couple of days. I'm "upgrading" from an HTC Touch PRO with an Energy WM6.5 Custom ROM.
I'm having a difficult time managing email file attachments, contacts and applications. WM6.5 allowed me to receive and store files in the SD card for future use.
How I store a received email attached file for later use? I don't want to keep the whole email in the inbox just to have the attached file available.
WM6.5 allowed me that, in addition I was able to connect the phone via USB and transfer that same file to any PC. WP7 can't be reconized by PCs.
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Open the attachment, then choose Save or Save As. It then saves a copy to the local phone memory instead of just within the email.
vel0city1 said:
Open the attachment, then choose Save or Save As. It then saves a copy to the local phone memory instead of just within the email.
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OK, I saved the document in phone memory. I deleted the the original message from the Inbox and Deleted Items folders. Now I want to send that same PDF file to a friend via email. How I do that? How do I attach a PDF file to an email in WP7?
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You do use ZUNE and you can only sync with it so music pics and apps I want to put files on my phone and use them when I get to another comp or sync to outlook. When I plug my phone in it does not show up under computer it only tells me in ZUNE that a device is connected. This is a great example of Microsoft wanting to be like apple.
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I'm with you Wingnutt54 . Not being able to transfer files and documents from phone to PC and vice versa via direct USB connection is one of the biggest drawbacks of WP7. I "upgraded" from and HTC Fuze (Touch Pro) to the HTC Surround and really miss its flexibilty.
I am an IT Specialist and I like to carry all my files, documents and software handy at all times. What better place to have them than your phone? USB drives get lost all the time but you never lose your phone, do you?
well its mostly impossible
1. no WINCE 5.2 bootloader
2. no wince 5.2 Kernel
3. no wince 5.2 AMSS ( qualcomm virtual machine configuration files ). new hardware revision . amss from HD2 will not work
in the end = impossible
mo3ulla said:
well its mostly impossible
1. no WINCE 5.2 bootloader
2. no wince 5.2 Kernel
3. no wince 5.2 AMSS ( qualcomm virtual machine configuration files ). new hardware revision . amss from HD2 will not work
in the end = impossible
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So, there is no hope for the HTC Surround to be flashed with a custom WM6.5 ROM somewhere in the future?
Looks like I'll sell my Surround and go for the Telstra HTC HD2. Hope they are going much cheaper these days.
mo3ulla said:
well its mostly impossible
1. no WINCE 5.2 bootloader
2. no wince 5.2 Kernel
3. no wince 5.2 AMSS ( qualcomm virtual machine configuration files ). new hardware revision . amss from HD2 will not work
in the end = impossible
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you have tried to use these tools? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884239
gattech said:
So, there is no hope for the HTC Surround to be flashed with a custom WM6.5 ROM somewhere in the future?
Looks like I'll sell my Surround and go for the Telstra HTC HD2. Hope they are going much cheaper these days.
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wm 6.5 ( wince 5.2 ) does not compatible with WP7 (wince 6). at ANY part . os booted different way .. os working different way . in the end ..
1. no kernel
2. no drivers
3. no bootloader
also surround and half of surround ( mozart ) have NEW EXTERNAL TOUCH ( Cypress ) AND EXTERNAL SOUND CODEC ( TEXAS INSTRUMENTS ) hardware. so thats part will require drivers written from a ZERO . which is dead way if you does not have sources or chip papers .
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you have tried to use these tools? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884239
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if you can even personalize .. a breakthrough would be to insert other languages ... I have the Spanish, I'm watching it with the tools that you go ..
If you can, please let me help. "
Greetings
I am looking for a Smartphone with a particular form factor, the form factor is shared by the P3600, the Aria & the HD Mini. I have the 3600 but it is time to upgrade
I’ll be honest I’d rather get a HD Mini than an Aria, but I want to stick with Tel$tra and Next G is on 850 Mhtz,
So Aria it is.
Now looking at the ups and downs of this proposition it looks like it will do everything I want out of the box (Give or take a bit) the only concern is the ability to run apps from the SD which doesn’t appear to be available until upgrading to 2.2.
If I want the phone unlocked and free to do as I say, I obviously can’t go downloading a carrier specific Rom, so need either a factory default or Home baked number.
So… What Android 2.2 ROM is available that is as close to the Unlocked factory default as possible? Or can you download the Unlocked Factory Default from HTC direct (I have tried and failed)
You're looking for gene Poole's liberated 2.2.2 or attn1 fr008.
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mtnlion said:
You're looking for gene Poole's liberated 2.2.2 or attn1 fr008.
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You want Gene Poole's Liberated 2.2.2
Also, how and where are you getting your phone?
Most of us (it seems) in this forum got our phones when they were running 2.1 and we were able to easily root them with unrevoked. People who have gotten the Gratia or warranty replacements recently with the official 2.2 system in place have not been able to root.
FALCON-LORD said:
I am looking for a Smartphone with a particular form factor, the form factor is shared by the P3600, the Aria & the HD Mini. I have the 3600 but it is time to upgrade
I’ll be honest I’d rather get a HD Mini than an Aria, but I want to stick with Tel$tra and Next G is on 850 Mhtz,
So Aria it is.
Now looking at the ups and downs of this proposition it looks like it will do everything I want out of the box (Give or take a bit) the only concern is the ability to run apps from the SD which doesn’t appear to be available until upgrading to 2.2.
If I want the phone unlocked and free to do as I say, I obviously can’t go downloading a carrier specific Rom, so need either a factory default or Home baked number.
So… What Android 2.2 ROM is available that is as close to the Unlocked factory default as possible? Or can you download the Unlocked Factory Default from HTC direct (I have tried and failed)
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Thanks for that mtnlion. I thought this was my last hurdle but then I considered the implications of syncing outlook contacts and calendars… It appears that you need a third part application to do that. FFS why can’t someone port WM6.5 to the Aria HW? It would make life so much easier.
Is it time for me to start learning to cook ROMs?
Thanks for the update stoneship. So it isn’t all as easy as it seems on the surface. SOD…
Maybe I just have to cross my fingers and hope that HTC keeps supporting the small form factor and wait for there next round of releases, and hope something fits.
I haven't used it in quite awhile but I'm pretty sure the HTC sync software will sync outlook and calendar when you plug in your phone.and there are apps on the market also.
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Thanks again mtnlion, but this still leaves me with the issue highlighted by stone ship that some systems won’t let you root break them and put on non official ROM images. The Aria as a solution is so close I can taste it… But I am just not confident it is going to be without issues.
Ahhh Screw it… I have bought one… How much trouble can it be???
Well... after rereading your post it seems that you may not be aware of this.
The phone you purchased will most likely (if new) come with software preinstalled from the factory that will prohibit you from rooting it via software methods.
You will need to send the phone to someone else to downgrade it for you. Then you can root it and install the software above.
Hope that made sense, I'm running on fumes... :-/
FALCON-LORD said:
Ahhh Screw it… I have bought one… How much trouble can it be???
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Cross your fingers that you got one with 2.1 on it so you can root it easily. If not I can point you to someone who can s-off it for you.
The Aria is a great little phone and once you get things sorted out I think you will find you can do what you need with it. Syncing outlook contacts and calendars should not be an issue either through activesync or HTC sync regardless of official or cooked rom.
You say Active sync or HTC sync??? Does that mean that M$ Active sync can sync with an Android device? That would be weird.
The device is advertised as unlocked and 2.1 As long as it is unlocked then I am good even if it is 2.2 I don’t expect to need it rooted in the immediate term, though I do expect I am going to have to hack around a little to get the Audio on my Cardo Scala headset sorted (it doesn’t support A2DP) so I may be eating those words in short order.
Though in the words of the great tosser Jeremy Clarkson… “How Hard can it be?”
Seeing I am asking these questions I may as well outline the Bluetooth issue I have and see if any one can shed any light on the Android solution.
As I said in my previous post my Bluetooth headset doesn’t support A2DP, so to get music playing on it (or get GPS spoken directions) I need to perform a couple of hacks
The first one is to combine the stereo channels so on my Windows mobile I do this by applying the following to the registry.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2DP\Settings]
"UseJointStereo"=dword:00000001
The second (And more important) is to change the Bluetooth channel behavior which is done by making the voice command attribute do nothing (remove the path of the executable) and keeping the channel open for an indefinite amount of time (VoiceCmdDuration being a large number)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand]
"LaunchApEnable"=dWord:1
"VoiceCmdDuration"=dWord:15180
So… In Android, what files do I need to tweak, and how do I need to tweak them to achieve the same results?
Thanks
Well I now have my aria in my greasy little hands, and for better or worse… It has 2.2 loaded.
Starting to sort my way through the maze of setup now…
Patience.
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The Limitations of Android are really annoying. (Unrooted)
I can’t Leave the device Synchronizing and also copy files back and forth (I Can in WM5)
I can’t copy files directly to the device only to the SD Card (I Can in WM5)
I can’t access the SD card from the device while I am accessing it from the PC (I Can in WM5)
I can’t edit configuration files to alter how it interacts with things such as Bluetooth (I Can in WM5)
I can’t store resources such as ringtones on the device, only on the SD card (I Can in WM5)
I can’t control the phone from my desktop computer such as MyMobiler (I Can in WM5)
And these are just the limitations I have found in 3 days when comparing it to a 6 year old Operating system.
And because it came pre installed with 2.2 I can’t root it…
It really appears that if it isn’t rooted it is pretty F#$ked.
Android is not really designed to be synchronized over USB. Yes, you can do it, and HTC makes a program for it specifically, but I suggest abandoning that habit and getting used to wireless syncing instead. The only reason I ever connect my phone to a computer is to copy a file, and even then I sometimes choose to do it with Dropbox instead, or send the link to the phone through ChromeToPhone.
Even if you don't want to use Google Calendar/Contacts as your primary calendar/contacts manager, you should be able to set up Outlook on your computer to synchronize with them. I don't personally use Outlook so I can't say what the best method for doing this is, but perhaps someone else can chime in with a suggestion.
As for the SD card, I don't think there is really any significant disadvantage to storing files on the SD card. Assuming you just leave your SD card in the phone, what's the difference? Some Android phones do have internal memory you can use for copying files to though.
As for the bluetooth issue, yes, that sucks. Good luck finding a solution for that if one exists.
Well An Update…
My Blutooth issues are managed by this app
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bedoig.BTmono_Donate&feature=search_result
It is O.K. But does have a nasty habit of rebooting the device if you don’t shut it down properly before disconnecting the bluetooth connection.
It still doesn’t allow me to initiate actions from the headset other than picking up calls, but at the end of the day this is all I require.
After my torrent of negatives I have found a few starters for what Android is doing better…
When you mount the SD card to the computer it is fully available, you can read & edit files not just copy to and from (I Can’t in WM5)
Once you throw a file manager on the device it browses UNC paths well
Though It does appear I am getting some really weird $hit happening with my Outlook calendars.
And I have noted that I can’t have different screen timeout behavior dependent on weather it is plugged in or not.
If I could have the best of WM, and the best of Droid, I would be a happy little camper.
Does anyone know a way I can change the artist name and album names on my songs sooooo that they show up in the right spots?
I have songs that I got from download sites and just want to make them all show up under the correct artist.
I will try to explain better if that was confusing.
Any ideas?
Even if I have to hook up toa computer what program would I use to rename them?
You probably just need to edit their tags. There are various free mp3 tag editors that you can use in Windows. Also, a lot of media players have built in support for it. I don't know which one to tell you to use but I use Media Monkey. WinAmp may have the ability to do it too, I don't really know as I haven't used it for years.
Also, if you are using Windows 7, you can just right click on the file>properties, click the details tab and edit them there. You can do more than one at a time this way by clicking on the first file you want so it's highlighted, then, while holding the shift key, click on the last one you want. The first, last and everything in between will become highlighted. Then just right click on one of them and choose properties, then details. Edit it and the changes should be applied to all of those that you selected.
Perhaps XP has the same ability. I don't really remember as it's been a while since I've used it. I can fire up a VM and check it out though if you'd like. Or, if you have XP, just have a look and see for yourself.
robocuff said:
You probably just need to edit their tags. There are various free mp3 tag editors that you can use in Windows. Also, a lot of media players have built in support for it. I don't know which one to tell you to use but I use Media Monkey. WinAmp may have the ability to do it too, I don't really know as I haven't used it for years.
Also, if you are using Windows 7, you can just right click on the file>properties, click the details tab and edit them there. You can do more than one at a time this way by clicking on the first file you want so it's highlighted, then, while holding the shift key, click on the last one you want. The first, last and everything in between will become highlighted. Then just right click on one of them and choose properties, then details. Edit it and the changes should be applied to all of those that you selected.
Perhaps XP has the same ability. I don't really remember as it's been a while since I've used it. I can fire up a VM and check it out though if you'd like. Or, if you have XP, just have a look and see for yourself.
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Thanks bro
I'm gonna try media monkey later.
I had tried to do what you mentioned , couple nights ago, but I could only edit song name with that method. No other details could be changed.
And I am using a laptop (borrowed) that has Vista lol
I'll try those programs you mentioned when I get home from movies tonight...thanks again
Edit......If anyone knows a way I can do it directly from my phone let me know please
I did a search for mp3 tag editor in the market and there's a lot of them available. I have no idea which one would be the one to use though. I've never used one on Android so I don't know if it's a one song at a time thing or of you can find one that supports batch editing. You might have a look. Maybe there's something there you can use.
As for Vista, well, I'm surprised you can't do the same as in Win 7. You're probably right though. The only experience I have with Vista is when I ran the beta MS released and when I've worked on other peoples computers. Didn't like the beta so I didn't really explore it all that much. Went straight from XP to Win 7.
I have used a program called iTag from the market before to edit individual songs. It works fine if you only have a few songs here or there that you want to edit.
I haven't really found anything worth the time if I have to do a lot of editing though. If you have 20+ songs, it is easier to use something like Media Monkey.
robocuff said:
I did a search for mp3 tag editor in the market and there's a lot of them available. I have no idea which one would be the one to use though. I've never used one on Android so I don't know if it's a one song at a time thing or of you can find one that supports batch editing. You might have a look. Maybe there's something there you can use.
As for Vista, well, I'm surprised you can't do the same as in Win 7. You're probably right though. The only experience I have with Vista is when I ran the beta MS released and when I've worked on other peoples computers. Didn't like the beta so I didn't really explore it all that much. Went straight from XP to Win 7.
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Thanks robot.
U been very helpful for a guy to bust today to Google lol
Mp3tag is the tagger I use. http://mp3tag.de/en/
Poweramp lets you change the tags too and its the best music app out there!
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dust. said:
Poweramp lets you change the tags too and its the best music app out there!
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Sweet I have power amp...just not installed right now...
Thanks I'll check it out
Hy Guys,
The Win program I use is Easy CD-DA Extractor, been using it for years. Does everything audio you could think or want to do (Swiss Army Knife Of Digital Audio). it's the only one I use check it out. http://www.poikosoft.com/