Hey everyone,
I personally have a GSM Touch Pro, but I have a few friends coming to me asking about modding their Sprint T. Pro's, obviously CDMA.
One of my favorite tweaks for the GSM version is turning off 3G when i'm not using the internet with a simple slider in the Comm Manager added by Advanced Config tool... will the same program allow switching from evdo rev a / rev 1? Will there be a battery life increase in using the slower speed when not in use? If I cant use schap's ACT, what program can allow the toggling on/off with relative ease for a not-so-tech-savy person who could at least learn a simple process if I show them how to do it?
Thanks for understanding my newbness in CDMA devices; and thank you for the extra hacks & tips I found through the links you all have here, found a few extras I haven't seen in my time lurking the GSM variants of the Touch Pro.
well i was searching the forum for this EXACT question... good thing it was answered
does anybody know?
Im probably more noob than all of you but to my understanding it wont work. On a gsm phone 3g is actually another form of cdma, so gsm 3g phones have two radios and can surf the web while on a call. So if im right a cdma phone only has one radio so if you turn that one off it will be on airplane mode.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=47045
found a mortscript... it works great.
If you download the advanced config tool, there is an option to set the data connection to disconnect after a set amount of time being inactive. That saves a lot of battery for me and it is automatic so it isn't dependent on if you remember to do it or not. You can set it to disconnect anywhere between 30 seconds and 10 minutes.
Sh0wNuF said:
If you download the advanced config tool, there is an option to set the data connection to disconnect after a set amount of time being inactive. That saves a lot of battery for me and it is automatic so it isn't dependent on if you remember to do it or not. You can set it to disconnect anywhere between 30 seconds and 10 minutes.
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but does it shut off evdo aswell? i think just having data on is different from having your phone stay on evdo.. since evdo is only for data your phone uses more battery even if your not using data on an evdo signal.. and really 1x is only for text and calls.. for the people who arent on the internet all the time.. toggling evdo would save tons of battery
wow, old topic came back up ! >.>
The idea is allowing the checking of e-mail on a low-speed low-power connection (like blackberries on edge) so auto-disconnections are not very helpful..
the mortscript looks like it would work fairly easily.
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OK all you tweakers. I have a Sprint TP. I am wondering if there is any software or tweaks that will shut off the 3G network after a specified time of inactivity. There was some free software that I downloaded (Hard drive crashed lost the software), but I think it was designed around, only worked on GPRS/Edge phones. It did not work on mine.
Any suggestions.
I used this instructions http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1892787&postcount=84 to disable EVDO and force 1x. Works a treat. But so far I do not see any improvement. It takes the same ~500mA to keep 1x data connection up, same as for EVDO. not sure how this will stack up during the day... But my prediction is that it will not be noticeable.
BTW, data connection is closed automatically when not in use, as far as I understand. You can see grey arrows icon at the top status bar.
Why would you want to force 1X EVDO is faster
Are you talking about shutting off the data connection if you are then download Advanced Configuration Tool and press Menu - More Settings - Connections - Then click on the Sprint on and set the disconnect time.
Yes, you can use Advanced Config > internet options, to turn the data connection off all the time, always on, or manual.
I use data a lot. But 1x sucks up more battery then EVDO.
I know, because I'm stuck on 1x all the time.
There is a force connection registry hack.
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\HiddenModeOperationPage
Change from 1 to 0
This will open the hidden page in the Phone>options>settings. Scroll down for the Mode of Operation page, and select the one you want.
If you select EVDO only often, it will get annoying clicking the Okay, to the pop up. You can just delete the registry entry for the menu. I cannot recall where it is at the moment. Might be in phone settings. It's called EVDO i belive. Check to make sure the thread says the same thing that the pop up does. Deleting it just gets rid of the box, doesn't stop functionality.
Chanhuff You hit the mark the option in advanced config was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the help
This question is for Chanhuff. I used advanced config, and made the change as you noted. Do you know if this effects connectivity based on staying connected to the network, if you are using the network (EVDO) for a longer period of time than the time out. Will it stay on, does the setting relate to inactivity only?
I set a time out for 10 minutes, and it seemed to effect some of my features that will auto update when they are activated (example: the weather feature on the 3D touchflo front end does not seem to want to connect automatically when launched) when I used the setting.
Also in the advanced config tool when you get into the connection settings the choices for sprint, and for phone as modem are: 1. Always on, 2. Enabled, and 3. Off. I am assuming that you have to have the setting for enabled, and then set the time out check box.
Just getting the hang of Advanced Config, and there is Soooo much to learn.
Also does anyone know what the standard time out is if you do not adjust this setting?
TIA.
Hi all
Not a power user's dilemma I'm afraid but I hope someone can help me out...
What's bugging me is that my wife's LG-P500 incurs a small charge every day because, despite all the settings telling me it should NOT connect to the internet via the mobile network at any time, it somehow still connects - even when wifi is available like at home.
This wouldn't be a big deal normally but because she's on a pre-pay txt only plan her credit gets used up quickly.
My HTC Wildfire uses NO mobile connection at all when I have wifi available. Any ideas why this should be happening with our LG-P500?
Great forums by the way and I'm slightly embarrassed to be raising this probably noob topic here but I can't find an answer anywhere else...
Thanks in advance!
I haven't seen that problem on my P500, with the void echo ROM (the stock firmware didn't stay on the phone long enough for me to try that).
The option to disable it is in:
Settings -> Wireless and network settings -> Mobile networks -> Data enabled (should be unchecked)
Or in the drop-down menu of the notification bar.
I'm not sure about the stock ROM, but on void, an additional icon appears on the notification bar whenever the mobile network is active.
You could also try disabling the option:
Settings -> Accounts & sync settings -> Background data (should be unchecked)
Thanks. I already did all the obvious stuff you mention, having seen it work fine on my Wildfire... Any other ideas out there?
Might this be related to Location Services using Cell tower information ?
Could try turning that off anyway.
If you don't want to use the mobile network for internet access, than go to Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks > Uncheck Data enabled .
If the network allows you, you can also select Network mode > GSM only, this will also save you some battery. For example, I only use wifi to connect to Internet on my phone, and I also checked the option "Use only 2G networks" (also saves battery), I'm connecting to my operator only for phone calls
What is your Wi-Fi sleep policy settings? Try setting it to Never.
When the phone goes into sleep mode, wifi is turned off to save on battery. May be that's the reason mobile network is getting connected in sleep mode. If u enable wifi policy to never sleep that will drain the battery. You can disable the mobile network from th3 notification bar that should help.
Many thanks for the help guys!
Wifi sleep: good idea, I'll look at that!
Location services: good idea, I'll look at that!
Data enabled: unchecked already.
The problem still strikes me as odd because although I have ALL the same apps (and quite a few more...), I don't have this problem with my little HTC Wildfire...
Update: the only way I could find to resove the issue was to invent and use a nonsense APN...
Wifi sleep was already ticked as "never" by the way.
Thanks again everyone who gave advice.
Yeah, I've also had reason to use an APN named "fake" with a proxy named 'fake", although i use "Z" now to save typing, LOL.
This is one of many things i would do when changing SIMs. I have had one SIM and phone that always set a new APN and this ended up costing me a few bucks in data fees before I re-changed the APN info.
I would also disable the data services, make sure WiFi was on (to provide priority data access) AND enable airplane mode.
Anyway, your experience has inspired me to check more deeply about my data usage. I don't like the idea of my phone doing data without my knowledge while it's in standy.
I prefer to manually choose which connection I would like to use, so if I'm using my data plan such as when I'm out, I go to notification and enable data. I only get 200mb a month so its easier for me than to always keep networks on even when I'm not using them. It also saves on the battery as well.
EDIT: you can check your data usage using 3g watchdog app, find it in android market
It easy to solve. Just install APNdroid
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.code.apndroid
It also has a widget. Works very well.
So I've had this S743 for 3 days now and I thought I had it setup correctly to use wifi for data comm.
wifi enabled and selected to use my home network. I can see the radio tower status icon.
Under the comm manager data connection is off.
I have a very simple $45/mo plan with no data plan.
Over the last 2 days I have been surfing the web a bit did some email tests with my ISP and used the on board GPS app which is horrible. Not heavy usage but experimentation to see if I like how the phone works.
Then after 2 days I get an email from AT&T that I have extremely high data usage exceeding my account limit and that I should sign up for a data plan at once.
$29 over 2 days for this little bit of fluff? A total of 2,900kb in data.
So I call up AT&T and they tell me this and that and want me to sign up for a plan which I may do.
But I want to be able to know that the datacomm is happening via WIFI when I can see it's in service.
They also told me that all GPS data is forced through 3G and bypasses WIFI???
Can anyone here give me an idea about what I may be doing wrong and whether AT&T is correct about the GPS service?
Is there a better GPS app that doesn't do this? This one pretty much stinks anyway. A resolution of 1000 meters doesn't cut it.
AT&T also informed me that I can't have a smart phone without a data contract. Really? I've had one for 6 years.
Thanks for any light you shed on the subject.
One th I have subsequently found out is that if data connection is off and wifi is off then when I go into IE and start surfing it does bring up pages. Then when I go back to the Comm Manager the Data Connection is still off for an instant and then it automatically turns itself on as though it had been turned on by use of IE and the status was just being updated.
Is there any way to stop this?
The only way to completely stop data usage is to delete the APNs from within the Settings->Connections dialog.
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The only way to completely stop data usage is to delete the APNs from within the Settings->Connections dialog.
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What exactly are APNs? I don't see anything labeled that way in that section on my phone.
Thanks for the reply.
Try to download the NoData app; google it. I believe it's freeware. Toggle all connections to "Disabled" and that should do the trick..
About the GPS; all I can think of is that the QuickGPS app (under desktop accessoires or whatever it's called in english) automatically downloads new info about the GPS locations.
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Try to download the NoData app; google it. I believe it's freeware. Toggle all connections to "Disabled" and that should do the trick..
About the GPS; all I can think of is that the QuickGPS app (under desktop accessoires or whatever it's called in english) automatically downloads new info about the GPS locations.
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Thank you.
I did manage to delete the APN and that did work but now I've decided to keep this phone, put it on an AT&T GO-Phone plan and add a very limited data plan. So I will be trying to find a better way to make certain it doesn't always automatically go for the GSM even when you have it turned off.
I looked at your suggestion but it sounds like it conflicts with netframe 3.5 which I have installed.
I m using H+ with my cell company, no 3G. But i set the network for CDMA , still switch , how to stop it? thanks
Goto Settings > wireless and networks > Mobile networks > Network mode and select the appropriate one.....
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I understand your problem...This will happen automatically...
The network will switch to H/H+ when you need connectivity and when in idle it will go back to 3G..This is done to save battery and processor speed i guess...
You can always see that when data transfer is needed, the connection switches itself...However from my experience this will create a slight delay always....
I don't know more in detail...like whether this is an android feature or depends on the carrier.. or whether we can disable autoswitching between H and 3G...What I know is this happens for most of us...
Experts pls correct me if you feel to.
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I understand your problem...This will happen automatically...
The network will switch to H/H+ when you need connectivity and when in idle it will go back to 3G..This is done to save battery and processor speed i guess...
You can always see that when data transfer is needed, the connection switches itself...However from my experience this will create a slight delay always....
I don't know more in detail...like whether this is an android feature or depends on the carrier.. or whether we can disable autoswitching between H and 3G...What I know is this happens for most of us...
Experts pls correct me if you feel to.
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Even if it is possible to stick with H all the time, I believe it will have a considerable impact on battery life...
My personal opinion is that your battery life will be cut by half at least... So not worth it...
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It'd be nice if we could just adjust the delay of the automatic switch to 3G.
Something like 30 seconds would be nice as most people will probably spend less than that time on a single webpage before switching to another one. That way it won't really affect the browsing speed.
Battery life would not be affected too much as the phone will mostly stay in 3G when it is in idle, even if there are some stuff syncing in the background that will turn H back on.
I think that is the intended behavior, at least on my XXKG3 ROM. The network is idle on 3G... as soon I need data, it switches to H+. I tested that numerous times, it is instant.
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Goto Settings > wireless and networks > Mobile networks > Network mode and select the appropriate one.....
hit thanks if it helps u....
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Not sure about this but is CDMA for H internet connection??
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Hi, I wonder if it's possible to force a manual specified mobile data connection to be used.
e.g.
I tell the App that it should force "G" to be used instead "E" even if edge would've a better signal strength. because sometimes I am able to have "G" as data connection with 2or3 from 4 stripes but it switches randomly between "g" and "e" and "edge" has most of the time 4 of 4 stripes.
I just don't get the unnecessary switching between the two GSM data connection types. it's unnecessarily annoying because it's also stop the data transfer. it just su**
especially Samsung devices do a lot of unnecessary mobile data connection switching
we already can force between GSM and WCDMA. but we should be able to force within the different GSM data connections too.
so, would it be possible to code such an app? or is there something like that already available somewhere? did a lot of Google research but I end up with no results.
well, I can understand that this would be some sort of lower priority mod/app but whoever can effort the time and has the skills to write such an application could add the complete set of option to it.
- switch between e, G, H, LTE etc.
- set times when which data connection should be in use
- tell the App to use only GSM when the overall traffic is near a specified amount of data.
- a watch dog for established connections would be nice to and some sort of firewall to deny connections or other way around to have to specifically allow every connection
I have a 5GB high-speed data plan. and I would like to swap automatically to GSM only once I wasted 4GB of it to save a few bytes when I really need full speed.
I am not sure. maybe such a tool is kinda pointless on a smartphone but I would love to see such a tool.
thanks for the read
regards