So I've had this S743 for 3 days now and I thought I had it setup correctly to use wifi for data comm.
wifi enabled and selected to use my home network. I can see the radio tower status icon.
Under the comm manager data connection is off.
I have a very simple $45/mo plan with no data plan.
Over the last 2 days I have been surfing the web a bit did some email tests with my ISP and used the on board GPS app which is horrible. Not heavy usage but experimentation to see if I like how the phone works.
Then after 2 days I get an email from AT&T that I have extremely high data usage exceeding my account limit and that I should sign up for a data plan at once.
$29 over 2 days for this little bit of fluff? A total of 2,900kb in data.
So I call up AT&T and they tell me this and that and want me to sign up for a plan which I may do.
But I want to be able to know that the datacomm is happening via WIFI when I can see it's in service.
They also told me that all GPS data is forced through 3G and bypasses WIFI???
Can anyone here give me an idea about what I may be doing wrong and whether AT&T is correct about the GPS service?
Is there a better GPS app that doesn't do this? This one pretty much stinks anyway. A resolution of 1000 meters doesn't cut it.
AT&T also informed me that I can't have a smart phone without a data contract. Really? I've had one for 6 years.
Thanks for any light you shed on the subject.
One th I have subsequently found out is that if data connection is off and wifi is off then when I go into IE and start surfing it does bring up pages. Then when I go back to the Comm Manager the Data Connection is still off for an instant and then it automatically turns itself on as though it had been turned on by use of IE and the status was just being updated.
Is there any way to stop this?
The only way to completely stop data usage is to delete the APNs from within the Settings->Connections dialog.
ashasaur said:
The only way to completely stop data usage is to delete the APNs from within the Settings->Connections dialog.
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What exactly are APNs? I don't see anything labeled that way in that section on my phone.
Thanks for the reply.
Try to download the NoData app; google it. I believe it's freeware. Toggle all connections to "Disabled" and that should do the trick..
About the GPS; all I can think of is that the QuickGPS app (under desktop accessoires or whatever it's called in english) automatically downloads new info about the GPS locations.
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Try to download the NoData app; google it. I believe it's freeware. Toggle all connections to "Disabled" and that should do the trick..
About the GPS; all I can think of is that the QuickGPS app (under desktop accessoires or whatever it's called in english) automatically downloads new info about the GPS locations.
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Thank you.
I did manage to delete the APN and that did work but now I've decided to keep this phone, put it on an AT&T GO-Phone plan and add a very limited data plan. So I will be trying to find a better way to make certain it doesn't always automatically go for the GSM even when you have it turned off.
I looked at your suggestion but it sounds like it conflicts with netframe 3.5 which I have installed.
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Every month I have paid much money for phone and internet fee(9800 yen). I want to disable internet connection because it is not necessary for me.
thanks in advance
you can create a new internet connection and replace the default with it.
thanks for reply but how to make new connection.
Hello. What do you mean? You mean I can use it for a non-softbank account? (via 3g?) Of course, I suppose we could just delete the whole softbank account, and therefore it would not be able to "connect" via 3G, and we could connect via a wireless account, but then softbank mail would not work, right? I wonder if it is possible to just disable connecting to the internet via explorer.... any ideas?
@taicyber: i ran into a similar problem. sometimes while in my carrying case, my keitai would connect to the internet via internet explorer, and my monthly fee for internet usage was much higher than it should have been. so i took a couple steps. first, i changed the internet button on the front of the phone to a different function (that's apparently the button that often gets accidentally pressed). after that, i changed pie's (pocket internet explorer's) start page to a local file (ie. the help file). that step solved the majority of my problems. what was happening when it auto-connected was that yahoo.co.jp was the start page, and that page has HUNDREDS of little pics and ads that refresh every few minutes and drive those packet amounts up. if you make it a local file you'll no longer have those mystery packets being sent. and it doesn't affect your mms/sms in any way. having the dummy file as a start page made it safe for me to change the pie button back to it's default function of opening up pie.
also, just for reference, i don't think you have to worry about the phone being connected to the 3g network too much. unless a page that refreshes itself frequently is opened, then no data is sent. the only problem i run into with 3g being connected is that it kills my battery faster.
thanks shunsai. I have experience like you said. and I also changed the button and defalult.html(in /windows).But I am not sure if my phone will connect internet via other way.
Hey it might not be super helpful in this case, but for me I disable gprs using a piece of software called 'NoData'. it will let you quickly switch on / off data connections. Search the forums for NoData and you'll find links to it.
The issue sounds specific to Softbank the carrier though so YMMV.
I leave data conenction off, but somehow I'm still using data from time to time. I don't have an unlimted data plan and so any usage is to much. I'm running dcd 2.3.2 vzw. I'd rather not disable data via VZW network in case I need data but normally would never use it.
Anything I can do to disable data connection on phone to stop completely any data being pulled OTA and be able to enable when/if I need it?
I use my wifi so I'd still want that to work, but this shouldn't be affecting my data connection, right?
Thanks everyone in advance?
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I leave data conenction off, but somehow I'm still using data from time to time. I don't have an unlimted data plan and so any usage is to much. I'm running dcd 2.3.2 vzw. I'd rather not disable data via VZW network in case I need data but normally would never use it.
Anything I can do to disable data connection on phone to stop completely any data being pulled OTA and be able to enable when/if I need it?
I use my wifi so I'd still want that to work, but this shouldn't be affecting my data connection, right?
Thanks everyone in advance?
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What I did was go to settings, connections, connections, manage existing connections, data network, select data network, then edit, Next, delete #777 and then enter 1 then hit next, and finish.
From then on it will show you the login screen but cannot connect.
Hey man, I had this VERY issue with my xv6800.... You have 2 options.... You can call every month and ***** that the phone automatically connect and uses data by itself, which it does.... or you could delete your data connection setup but this will disable your MMS.... There is nothing on their end they can do.... I went thru this just like you are... SUCKS.... I ended up getting the unlimited data plan because: A) it allows me to game at work, Corp network is firewalled for the ports I need... B) FTP ports are also firewalled so I use the phones data.... works excellent.... I had to have them take 111 bucks off my bill the 1st month because the phone used 6.7 megs in 2 weeks by itself, then I got the 24 dollar 10 meg data plan, but when it went to 10 megs and I still had 2 weeks left to go, I called and had them add the unlimited plan..... My bill would have been 1400 bucks without the unlimited plan..... So now I USE THE CRAP out of the data side..... screw em......
You could also call VZW and ask them to put a DATA BLOCK on your account so that no matter what your phone will not be able to use data.
I deleted the data password (vzw) on my phone so whenever it tries to connect it asks for the password. I also changed the default "for programs that connect to the internet" to use work network instead of the data connection and then setup my mms to use the data connection to pull pictures from. I only use the data side for mms and wifi for everything else.
Cool - knew I wasn't the only one with this issue.
Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll see about getting vzw to credit me and I'll turn off the connection by changing the #777 or password.
Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
You can disable your connection in the registry. On the flip side I set mine to "Always on" in the registry.
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3453742#post3453742
I use an app called "NODATA" you open the app, select your "CDMA1X" or what ever and toggle it off. you can toggle it on when you need it by opening the app and selecting it. I don't have the link but I found it here. So you shouldn't have any trouble.
Chris
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I use an app called "NODATA" you open the app, select your "CDMA1X" or what ever and toggle it off. you can toggle it on when you need it by opening the app and selecting it. I don't have the link but I found it here. So you shouldn't have any trouble.
Chris
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I've been using that program for a year now it's easy to use no need to keep entering ur password with the #777 method or having to edit ur registry everytime u want to go online... I live on US canada border and roaming charges were killing me first 2 months I had this phbone because it would bounce back and forth between verizon and telus... this proggie saved me tons of cash and hassles with telus... well worth the download
Completely disable 3g data connections forever, save wifi
This is my first contribution to xda-forums! I'm glad I can help at all when I've benefitted so much... Thanks to all!
NOTE: After the following steps, Modaco's Nodata doesn't even register that a data connection exists! For this reason, if you occasionally use 3g, you probably will want to use Nodata, and NOT the following solution. You just might have to open Nodata and disable the data connection every time you soft-reset.
I was finally able to completely 100% block the 3g data connection on my Verizon XV6800 (aka Mogul aka Titan) was the following three steps:
1. The key culprit is HTC_CM_Guardian.exe in the windows directory. I couldn't edit it or delete it via Total Commander file explorer, but I was able to rename it! This makes the OS unable to find the program when it tries to re-set the Data connection settings.
2. Under Settings > Connections > Connections > Advanced > "Select which networks are automatically used," hit "Select Networks."
3. Under "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:" hit "New...".
4. Enter any name you want (mine's "nodata!") and leave all the other settings blank.
5. To be safe, you may have to delete the Verizon Or "Internet" Connection on the Tasks Tab of Settings > Connections > Connections. Save and exit.
Voila! Wifi, yes; 3g, no! No more nasty billing surprises.
Modaco's Nodata program is awesome, but the problem was that HTC_CM_Guardian.exe re-enabled the data connection every time I reset the phone. Plus, HTC_CM_Guardian.exe would also thwart any effort to block data via the "Connection Settings." By renaming HTC_CM_Guardian.exe and creating a "nodata!" connection that programs auto-connecting to the internet would try to use (and fail), we get three results:
1. Modaco's Nodata doesn't even register that a data connection exists! For this reason, if you occasionally use 3g, you probably won't to use this solution.
2. When you reboot, the OS is unable to mess-up your "Connection Settings", so
3. Unless you have an active wifi connection, programs will try to connect to the Internet using the "nodata!" settings, which, being empty, will fail, exactly as planned.
Hope it helps.
Hi all
Not a power user's dilemma I'm afraid but I hope someone can help me out...
What's bugging me is that my wife's LG-P500 incurs a small charge every day because, despite all the settings telling me it should NOT connect to the internet via the mobile network at any time, it somehow still connects - even when wifi is available like at home.
This wouldn't be a big deal normally but because she's on a pre-pay txt only plan her credit gets used up quickly.
My HTC Wildfire uses NO mobile connection at all when I have wifi available. Any ideas why this should be happening with our LG-P500?
Great forums by the way and I'm slightly embarrassed to be raising this probably noob topic here but I can't find an answer anywhere else...
Thanks in advance!
I haven't seen that problem on my P500, with the void echo ROM (the stock firmware didn't stay on the phone long enough for me to try that).
The option to disable it is in:
Settings -> Wireless and network settings -> Mobile networks -> Data enabled (should be unchecked)
Or in the drop-down menu of the notification bar.
I'm not sure about the stock ROM, but on void, an additional icon appears on the notification bar whenever the mobile network is active.
You could also try disabling the option:
Settings -> Accounts & sync settings -> Background data (should be unchecked)
Thanks. I already did all the obvious stuff you mention, having seen it work fine on my Wildfire... Any other ideas out there?
Might this be related to Location Services using Cell tower information ?
Could try turning that off anyway.
If you don't want to use the mobile network for internet access, than go to Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks > Uncheck Data enabled .
If the network allows you, you can also select Network mode > GSM only, this will also save you some battery. For example, I only use wifi to connect to Internet on my phone, and I also checked the option "Use only 2G networks" (also saves battery), I'm connecting to my operator only for phone calls
What is your Wi-Fi sleep policy settings? Try setting it to Never.
When the phone goes into sleep mode, wifi is turned off to save on battery. May be that's the reason mobile network is getting connected in sleep mode. If u enable wifi policy to never sleep that will drain the battery. You can disable the mobile network from th3 notification bar that should help.
Many thanks for the help guys!
Wifi sleep: good idea, I'll look at that!
Location services: good idea, I'll look at that!
Data enabled: unchecked already.
The problem still strikes me as odd because although I have ALL the same apps (and quite a few more...), I don't have this problem with my little HTC Wildfire...
Update: the only way I could find to resove the issue was to invent and use a nonsense APN...
Wifi sleep was already ticked as "never" by the way.
Thanks again everyone who gave advice.
Yeah, I've also had reason to use an APN named "fake" with a proxy named 'fake", although i use "Z" now to save typing, LOL.
This is one of many things i would do when changing SIMs. I have had one SIM and phone that always set a new APN and this ended up costing me a few bucks in data fees before I re-changed the APN info.
I would also disable the data services, make sure WiFi was on (to provide priority data access) AND enable airplane mode.
Anyway, your experience has inspired me to check more deeply about my data usage. I don't like the idea of my phone doing data without my knowledge while it's in standy.
I prefer to manually choose which connection I would like to use, so if I'm using my data plan such as when I'm out, I go to notification and enable data. I only get 200mb a month so its easier for me than to always keep networks on even when I'm not using them. It also saves on the battery as well.
EDIT: you can check your data usage using 3g watchdog app, find it in android market
It easy to solve. Just install APNdroid
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.code.apndroid
It also has a widget. Works very well.
I may be one of the few smart phone (HTC Rhodium / ATT Tilt 2) users who have requested to NOT have a data plan. I simply have no need for the service and have a basic call/text plan. I’ve decided to give Android a whirl with my AT&T Touch Pro2. I am having difficulty determining what services/apps/settings to disable to ensure no data usage is expended.
I have been using “Energy” ROMs for almost two years now and have been successful at ensuring no data usage is consumed. I few simple steps to turn off a handful of apps/services and I’m all set. Android, on the other hand, isn’t proving to be as easy….for me.
I have dug through the forums and searched around, but I’ve come up empty. I’ve found a few “nodata” programs, but they seem to all be outdated or for Windows Mobile. I don’t think my situation is very common, hence why I’m posting today.
I have successfully installed and used the latest Froyo build (FRX07.1, dated 01SEP11) found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171052
QUESTION:
How can I stop all data usage while using Android?
ie...
a. stop specific services/apps/programs
b. install a "no data" app
c. any other ideas?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Best way is using the curvefish 3G/ON/OFF Widget, to quickly choose when to be online and when offline.
Can still use data without 3G though? It will just be slower.
What I do is make an internet profile with blank settings on my phone, set it as default then if it tries to connect it instantly fails.
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What I do is make an internet profile with blank settings on my phone, set it as default then if it tries to connect it instantly fails.
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This is a good solution by-design, same I used on my old nokia phones
But if you are looking for an app to handle that, try Droidwall (market)
Allows you to restrict which apps can access the network.
This is the perfect solution if you don't have an unlimited data plan, or just wants to see your battery lasting longer.
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"Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> Data enabled"?
Or you can simply install from market "Apn Droid"
Hi,
Is there an app, script or something (which MUST be lightweight for RAM and battery) that would turn off background data when wifi is off?
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If you enabled background data at any point, you would know that 3G and 2G networks are only used when wifi is not connected. By turning it off when wifi is off would effectively make your data connection and plan redudant.
Disabling background data while is not on WiFi
Actualy, this is not a bad and dum question, these days, that many people have limited data, I really don't want my apps and other stuff on the background access the interent and I prefer these to get done on wifi, specialy market which I really don't want it to access the internet and check for updates while I'm driving, I would like this to get done when I'm on wifi, I noticed that my phone used 10 MB / day even if I don't use it myself.
please let me know if such a app exist
You can use DroidWall to get an exhaustive control over apps. Really easy to use, and you can decide app by app if they can get internet acces on 3g, wifi, 3g and wifi or not at all.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.googlecode.droidwall.free
SORRY IGNORE ABOVE!! That is not what you're asking for. But you can use CPU tuner for that https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.amana.android.cputuner&hl=en
Go to wireless
Then scroll down and last one choose
Then untick the one wich is ticked
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I've tried each of these suggested options, but none of these have I found satisfactory.
The problem is that one wants to be able to retrieve and send MMS messages, without other data being exchanged (at least in my contract in Sweden, MMS messages are included in the contract, and is not counted as regular data. I'm guessing your contract is under the same premises...). So that rules out the option os switching off the 3G network.
Next, the problem with DroidWall in this situation, is that there is a 0.4kb data leak through the firewall every time the Wi-Fi successfully connects to a wireless network. Don't ask me how or why (I used two or three different apps to ensure that this was the case). Even if this data amount was fairly small, I wasn't satisfied, since I pay a correlating fee for every byte sent or recieved by my phone, and I wanted all other data stopped.
The solution I finally came to was simpler than I imagined. I altered the API (or APN) settings in the "mobile networks" menu found in the network settings in the device menu. I simply accessed the settings for my account and changed API-type (APN-type), so that it only said "MMS" (erase "default" and "supl"). The only flaw with this option is that one has to fill out "default" in this Space again if one actually desires to use 3G data for some reason. Anyway, this has worked solidly for me for a couple of months (no data leaks).
Hope this helps you!
Sincerely, yitzhaq