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Dear Community, Dear Experts, Dear Gurus ,
I am hoping for your help. Unfortuntately the Speaker in my HTC TyTn died
and I need to send back the TYTN to the service center in order to get most likely the speaker replaced ( dead ).
Here my isue:
I want to flash the original stock rom, which is:
RUU_Hermes_1.18.257.2_1.18.257.106_1.03.03.10_Qtek_GER_Ship.exe
I have running now and downgraded from WM6 to WM5:
HTC_BOOT HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro ->>> not OK :-(
ROM HTC German QTEK_102 1.18.257.2 05/30/06 ->>> OK
EXTROM 1.18.257.106 ->>> OK
RadioRom 1.41.00.10 ->>> not OK :-(
Protocol 32.34.7010.01H ->>> OK
OS Build 14955.2.3.0 ->>> OK
AKU 2.3 ->>> OK
The issue is now, how can I restore the original bootloader ? I can only
flash the rom with the RUUWrapper, the result of flashing the original stock
rom is then, that I am still stuck with the modified bootloader and a corrupted
radio rom. Radio Rom was "fixed" by me by flashing the latest version.
If I would try to use the original flasher I would always get an Update Error [260].
So what can I do to resotre the HTC TyTn to its original status, so that the warranty is not voided ... original stock bootloader, radio rom image and so on.
Thanks a lot and hoping for your support, since I am realy lost here.
Sbrani
grab sspl (soft spl) and use that to flash a stock bootloader only.
as far as i know you cannot downgrade the radio due to it being bootloader 0108 variant, but not having a hermes i might be wrong
You can restore the original SPL bootloader by using SSPL but you will not be able to downgrade the Radio as the original has HTC_BOOT 0106.
You have already checked these guys that they haven't released an update?
First of all, thanks a lot for replying, but still the question is, how I can get rid of the HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro Bootloader. I would need to downgrade once again to the original HTC bootlader 106. As long as I have the other one, I will always end up, with a non working radio rom, since this stone old radio rom is not compatible with the new "IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10" bootlader. Any further Ideas ? Anyway the sspl (soft spl) did the trick and was able to flash orignal rom, but unfortunately with the same result, still not the original bootloader and the radio rom is now again corrupted :-(.
The bootloader hindering you from downgrading to the original radio is not the IPL/SPL combo but instead the built-in bootloader of the radio itself. Read more in the Wiki.
To put back your original SPL loader, use NBHextract to extract the SPL image from the ROM update file you used to downgrade the other bits in your phone, then use NBHgen to create an update file containing only the SPL and then use SSPL for the update.
Hey great support here ! Finally I also managed to restore the original bootloader, which is HERM200 IPL-1.00 HERM200 SPL-1.04. Now I only have to get the original radio rom running. Thanks a lot, seems that I can think now of actually reaching the final goal. I learned a lot. Great community !!!
You're missing the point about the radio. Let me repeat:
You can't install the original radio ROM. You will brick the phone!
abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108, but not 0106. Your original radio has 0106, so if you flash it you'll get a NoGSM error and a bricked phone.
about downgrading to WM5
pof said:
abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108,
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Well Pof, abubasim, Couldn’t sbrani downgrade the radio with custom RUU to his own original Rom Radio first?? (almost the official known Radio is 1.38) then following your description. At that time he gone have WM5 Rom and same Radio as original, I just wondering if u can du like this
Don't worry guys I bricked several times now the radio rom . It's just that it is then extra work. I will keep you updated, as soon I have news, for now I can't see anymore those "upgrading" tools. I will try it again tomorrow.
you where able to unbrick because you had HardSPL, but now you have SPL-1.04 which will not allow you to flash unsigned code.
By the way, did anybody have experience with HTC or better to say HTC Serivce Providers. As far as I know I have to send it to Teleservice in Germany. Are they realy checking the installed rom ? Thanks for the info.
Ok, I made it finally, I will post exactly how I did it, maybe it helps someone who will be in the same situation.
Thanks once again, great SUPPORT !!
Sure you'd HELP me!
Hi there,
Hi Sbrani, I'm in the exactly same situation: HTC TYTN (Orange France) without speaker... and needing to go to french HTC support.
I upgraded both ROM and Radio to the latest versions following step by step the tutorial found here and on mr (???) on its website (very well done by the way).
Sbrani, Please could you help me to restore as you did, my factory defaults?
Regards
Fly
Can you give more facts ? Pls look into my first thread and put down the infos. Thx
Guideline: How to downgrade to an original rom
Ok here we go this is how I solved this issue.
First you need to understand the difference between a normal SPL
and the modified SPls, which you can get here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
A standard SPL will not accept any unsigned code !
In case you bricked it already look here :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
1. you need to figure out, which radio rom matches your rom you want to flash, otherwise you end up with a bricked radio rom or even totally bricked,
if you have a standard SPL.
2.Please check it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
for the roms
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
for the radio roms
3.Looking at my ROM, which I needed I flashed 1.10 - Olipro SPL - based on 1.04,
I flashed it by using SSPL.
4.I flashed then the needed the radio rom
which was Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3 V 1.38.30.10
5.I used then Custom RUU Updater flashing the needed rom,
but without the included radio rom.
Costum RUU Updater you can find here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_CustomRUU
extracting and modifying is explained here:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=27
actually it is an how to downgrade from WM6 to WM6.
Please have a close look on how to extract the rom and how to create a
costum rom, which will fit your needs. The self made rom,
should then include the original IPL and SPL loader.
I finally used again SSPL to flash the self cooked rom.
Sorry if the guide is not very precise or not correct at all !!
Everybody is welcome to correct me and to finetune this guide.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, please read the HERMES WIKI, it was a great help for me !!
Thank you!
You deserve a Very Very Warm thank you!
I'll try all you advised me this week-end.
Regards,
FlY
it's very good already. i think you should get it incorporated into MrVanx's guide as a downgrade for servicing section
Thanks for your guide sbrani, I have not had to downgrade yet, but it something that is in the back of my mind as I know it will be very difficult if I ever need to.
I would also second the comment that I would be very grateful to MrVanx if he wrote a general guide on how to return to factory condition , as it is much more involved than upgrading. It's one thing to flash a phone, a totally different thing to customise a ROM update in order to only flash a specified portion.
@sbrani:
What version is your radio ROM at now? 1.03.03.10 or 1.38.30.10?
Im not concerned bout getting the original radio but just want to go back to the original rom. I have installed LVSW's version of WM6 and is running into some things that I rather not mess with as far as bugs and all. Now can I just DL the ROm and be straight TIA
I assume you havent read my WM5 Downgrade guide then?
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I assume you havent read my WM5 Downgrade guide then?
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Thanks for the tip. I'll get to reading some more. Appreciate it.
I did one recently using the most recent AT&T WM5 version. Using SSPL to downgrade, I was also able to change IPL/SPL back to stock versions.
Total Downgrade from WM6 to WM5
Sleuth255,
Just wanted to ensure I understood your process in downgrading from a WM6 rom to a WM5 rom.
Scenario: I am currently using Custel's 2.5(WM6) with radio 1.40, IPL 1.04 SSPL 2.10 Olipro.........
I wish to down grade to the "Stock" Cingular 1.34, with the stock radio 1.3xx
If my thinking is correct, I should be able to run SSPL 1.10 (Olipro) and then flash the WWE ship.exe for the 1.34 which will put the stock IPL/SSPL on the device.........
Am I out in left field with a football uniform on, or is the goal line reachable?????
Thanks,
vpu2....OUT!!!!
follow mrvanx's guide. It shows how to do everything. I went from the 1.41 radio, the 2.1oli spl, and dutty's rom back to a 100% stock phone that was capable of being flashed by the file that you can get from HTC's website... i did all of this using Mrvanx's guide (and the search function)... this link may help a little as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301219&highlight=downgrade+the+SPL
I'm having some trouble with one of the custom ROM's around here (not that it is not faster and richer than the original one but some applications are not working for me)
Could someone please help me revert to the original HTC 6.0 ROM?
I am using the 3.5SPL and so i guess this is why the HTC reflasher is not working
Also would radio version be a problem? I also have the latest radio version around; is this compatible with the old HTC 6.0 ROM?
Thanks !!
ubik said:
I'm having some trouble with one of the custom ROM's around here (not that it is not faster and richer than the original one but some applications are not working for me)
Could someone please help me revert to the original HTC 6.0 ROM?
I am using the 3.5SPL and so i guess this is why the HTC reflasher is not working
Also would radio version be a problem? I also have the latest radio version around; is this compatible with the old HTC 6.0 ROM?
Thanks !!
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I don't think anyone has converted the official HTC 6 Rom to SPL3.5 but dheerajjuneja has slightly modified it
see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2414269&postcount=25
If you want to go to the official rom you would have to use the spl downgrader (see the sticky links)
I think the official Roms reflash the radio so it wouldn't matter what radio you had
Why dont you try AP3
It is a good Rom and my wife has never found a need to change it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=2417083
lakeman said:
Why dont you try AP3
It is a good Rom and my wife has never found a need to change it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=2417083
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i've used AP3 before and it was a good rom.
But i'm trying to switch to something as plain and well tested as possible so that i stop having these random issues and incompatibilities (i'm on AP4 at the moment).
is there a way to revert the spl so that i can reflash the old rom?
thanks !
ubik said:
i've used AP3 before and it was a good rom.
But i'm trying to switch to something as plain and well tested as possible so that i stop having these random issues and incompatibilities (i'm on AP4 at the moment).
is there a way to revert the spl so that i can reflash the old rom?
thanks !
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This is the link that Cmonex posted to downgrade SPL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405604 off the rom links sticky.
Honestly if you are having troubles you put yourself at risk of a few problems reverting and I don't think it is worth it.
Use the AP3 for spl3.5 that I linked above and you should be sweet.
Make sure you remove your cards and do a hard reset before and fter you flash to make sure you have flushed all the settings that may be causing you issues.
ubik said:
I'm having some trouble with one of the custom ROM's around here (not that it is not faster and richer than the original one but some applications are not working for me)
Could someone please help me revert to the original HTC 6.0 ROM?
I am using the 3.5SPL and so i guess this is why the HTC reflasher is not working
Also would radio version be a problem? I also have the latest radio version around; is this compatible with the old HTC 6.0 ROM?
Thanks !!
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SOLUTION n.1
1) Revert back to spl 1.2 following the instructions posted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405604
2) Flash any 1.2 ROM
3) Flash the original HTC ROM using SSPL as explained in the same thread
ALL (SPL, RADIO, OS, SPLASH SCREEN, EXT_ROM) will be the original HTC
SOLUTION N.2
Flash the WWE SPL 3.5 HTC Rom modded from IRUS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390328 or from
dheerajjuneja (modded also fro blackberry connect) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2414269&postcount=25
SPL will stay unchanged, the OLINEX 3.5
Well, earlier this morning while having SPL3.5 on my device i tried to reflash my Athena with the stock HTC WM6 ROM to see what happens; normally that didn't work and left me unable to boot
Now i tried the SPL Downgrader, but i need a running OS to do that.
So i went to the bootloader, and tried installing two versions of AP 3.0 that i have to get a running OKS... The ROMs install just fine, but i'm stuck in a reboot loop that keeps taking me trough the "tap the screen to start using windows" and the AP 3.0 automatic os customization
is there a way to stop that from the loop?
how do you proceed to carry on from now on?
Also, what are the ROMS that can be installed straight from the bootloader like AP3? Maybe another ROM with no ROM customizations and automatic reboot?
Later Edit: Tried the Irus HTC WM6 SPL 3.5 ROM from the bootloader screen and it seems to be installing...
Keeping my fingers crossed
PS: I'm trying to find a thread to find out more about what is a SPL, what does it have to do with the OS and the boot mechanism in WM, anybody know a good resource for that?
OK, It seems i got there; after the Irus ROM, i use the SPL Downgrader and than reflashed the original HTC ROM, and voila !
I seem to have got the HTC WM6 ROM with 1.50 RADIO.
What more do i have to do to get "all-stock"?
Should i use a vanilla SPL1.2 installer to restore the original SPL (i think i'm running the 1.2 OliPro right now)
as a matter of fact, is there any reason to restore the original SPL?
And... is Radio 1.75 better than the 1.50 in terms of WIFI stability? WIFI performance seems to be rather bad
i need rom for htc s711
i need rom original for htc s711 version of onbl 1.25.0000 spl 1.25.0000 cpld 04
Hi guys I feel totally stupid right now. And upset. I got a used 7500 and it had a Michy ROM. I put the original WWE(I think?) ROM on it and that worked. Then I installed the AP 4.0 ROM and that worked fine. I then wanted to go back to the WWE ROM and when I tried installing it I get the SPL errors... I've tried installing all of the original WWE ROMS and none seemed to work and only gave back the error. Now I'm stuck at the colored striped screen and can't install a ROM or doing anything. I'm begging your help guys. I'll depost 10$ USD into anyone's paypal who can point me in the right direction and help me get the original WWE ROM back on it from htc's site. I'm thinking I need to use maybe MTTY to get it out of "bootloader"... But I don't know the commands... Thanks in advance. I've searched and tried a couple suggestions to no avail...
Check this thread out and this post in specific.
Downgrading
All Stock ROMS and many cooked ROMS can (only) be flashed with SPL 1.2.
The rest of the cooked ROMS (like AP4 and AP5) can (only) be flashed with SPL 3.5.
Once you have flashed a SPL 3.5 ROM you cannot easily go back to SPL 1.2 ROMS.
But there IS a way.
You can find a thread about the downgrading process here.
do you still need help ? I dont remember if you PM'd me, maybe not.
but yeah, just use the spl downgrader i made.
Hello,
Is it possible to use the 1.90 Olinex on my HTC Touch Pro whit SPL 5.05.0000
This give's the infomation screen(4color screen):
RAPH100
SPL-5.05.0000
MicroP-Raph (LED) v13
MicroP-Raph (KEY) v5
PSOC-Raph STAGE_CVT v0x36
PCBID 0x80
RID 0x0
Thanks en Cheers
Yes you can. Majority of the people out there have that hard spl on there. There was a problem on the tilt forum where you needed the preferred SPL for the rom you are using. The situation they had was recieving certain lag, which is a case that I experienced. With the 5.05 rom and 1.90 HSPL, I don't notice that effect.
yes i have the same. you can use it
hmm He gives an error over and over
As far as I know, the 1.90 SPL is the ONLY one available for the Raphael.
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As far as I know, the 1.90 SPL is the ONLY one available for the Raphael.
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Hey htcfan78,
The Touch Pro is Raphael, i use the 1.90 Olinex before i send my phone to a repaicenter of HTC (eurotwice).
oifrankoi said:
Hey htcfan78,
The Touch Pro is Raphael, i use the 1.90 Olinex before i send my phone to a repaicenter of HTC (eurotwice).
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I would suggest that you switch back to the stock SPL before sending it in for repairs. I stand corrected, 1.90 Olinex is not the only SPL. There is also the stock. However, for installing cooked ROMs, I believe that it is the only one.
htcfan78 said:
I would suggest that you switch back to the stock SPL before sending it in for repairs. I stand corrected, 1.90 Olinex is not the only SPL. There is also the stock. However, for installing cooked ROMs, I believe that it is the only one.
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I'll switch back to the stock spl but eurotwice put the newest software on your phone, and no i can't the Hard-spl.
Hi!
I just wanted to know after i installed my custom rom which is based on 5.05 xip can i install the original 5.05 SPL back i got fizzy screen problem and my screen allready been changed so there is something wrong.
So i just asking can i put back the 5.05 SPL for my 5.05 cooked rom without bricking my device is gonna be Original SPL cooked rom and changed radio...
Thx in advance.
and sorry for that i cant find any answer....