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Hey guys, i have read all of the guides and alot on the forums, i am also a member at TX and Da_Gs blackjack site so i have flashed new ROMs to the Blackjack hundreds of times. I feel pretty good about flashing my ATT 8525 with a cooked ROM but, I just want to verify something..........
(1) I should flash to the HardSPL first right? If i follow the guide it looks easy.
(2) I have on my 8525 the 1.54 radio and it works really well in my area, so after the HardSPL then flash the rom then i should still have the 1.54 radio? Is that right? it works just like on the Blackjack....the radio and boot and ROM are all separate installs?
I know some ROMs have all 3 together but the ROM i like, K's WM6.0 FINAL
does not have the SPL or radio.
Buckoni said:
Hey guys, i have read all of the guides and alot on the forums, i am also a member at TX and Da_Gs blackjack site so i have flashed new ROMs to the Blackjack hundreds of times. I feel pretty good about flashing my ATT 8525 with a cooked ROM but, I just want to verify something..........
(1) I should flash to the HardSPL first right? If i follow the guide it looks easy.
(2) I have on my 8525 the 1.54 radio and it works really well in my area, so after the HardSPL then flash the rom then i should still have the 1.54 radio? Is that right? it works just like on the Blackjack....the radio and boot and ROM are all separate installs?
I know some ROMs have all 3 together but the ROM i like, K's WM6.0 FINAL
does not have the SPL or radio.
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1) It is very easy....and definalty do it BEFORE anything else
2) the radio version currently on your hermes will stay there yes, unless you flash a ROM which contains a radio image. Nearly ALL the cooked WM6 versions are OS only.
Hey Thanks MrVanx! Thats all i neede to know! I will post afterwards to let ya'll know how it went.
It's pretty simple really once you know...
Run SIM & SID unlock, run Hard SPL v7, then click the RUU Wrapper file and install the required rom!
Easy!
Oh and the guide on Vanx's site is handy too!
Nice to see someone that read forum and wiki, and then ask a question.
hey guys everything went great! I have also installed the Cube to this ROM and it works great but, i really don't see it as being very useful as it is quicker to use the phone as it came. I do like how i can look through the contacts and pie with my fingers instead of the sylus but, thats about it.
I will try as many different ROMs as i can get ahold of and i might even down load one of the kitchens and start to roll my own,LOL! this is really changing what i do with my spare time! I used to hotrod my motorcycle or the computer or even my PSP but this is alot more fun!
Thank You to all the people here and over at TXceaser and Da_Gs web site!
You have really been a great bunch to learn from!
Buckoni
ok couple vexing things happening here.
my device was using 90% memory no matter what I deleted. was running oem spl 1.1 and wm6 from HTC for a long time.
so after reading here, I upgraded to spl 1.2 and radio 1.58 with no problems THANKS XDA!
memory usage has gone way down. HOW can this BE? havent changed the WM6 just the radio and spl.
anyway the new issue is what ROM to choose! i do need pocket excel and word that comes with the wm6 on there now. but would also like faster performance if possible. does one rom run the athena faster than another?
so any input would be greatly appreciated.
oh also what is "AP4" and what is the advantages of SPL3.5 ? i wouldnt mind being able to partition the memory into one big section, since I run a 16GB mini sd card. is this possible?
sorry for the noob questions but everyone here was once a noob. everyone. lol
now... if this unit were only transflexive screen
I was never a noob. Seriously.
I suggest Michy's 4.1 for a solid and fast ROM. It also has some pre-installed software that activates the transflexive screen option.
1.2 and 3.5 are flavors of SPL. 3.5 basically gives more of your device's memory to the space where the ROM is. More space gives cooks more room to include more pre-installed software like that cool transflexive screen thing.
AP stands for Athena Project. In order to change from SPL 1.2 to 3.5 you should flash AP4. However, IMHO more recent ROMs like Michy's series have eclipsed AP4 in speed and features.
(Also, I advise you change your "16MB mini sd card" to a "16GB mini sd card" before people start pointing and laughing.)
a permanent non-noob, perfect person to be getting athena advice from!
transflexive is a hardware component, its the type of LCD that reflects but also has backlight. in the sunlight you can still easily see it because of the reflectivity, but at night, the backlight can shine through. you get viewability in both conditions with transflexive LCD technology. i have no idea why PDA's started moving away from having that.
anyway I looked at the ROM list for http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518 and could not find a "4.1" rom so i think you mean 6.1 under Michyprima looks like the third and fourth ones WM6.1 Diamond and Full versions. What is the difference between diamond and full editions? Or am I looking at the wrong ones.
as to the storage, I have SPL 1.2 and the program vs storage allocation doesnt seem any different, is there something I need to do?
thanks
Hello and welcome to our forum!
I would suggest to use the ROM on this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=380 for your answer to the 1st post. You could find in post 1 and 2 some really good proposals!
As for Michy 6.1 ROM that exists here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411371 read at the 3rd post you will find a link for the 4.1 version of this ROM, which many believe it's the most stable!
Please be kind to the persons who try to help you...
first, im not sure why I need to be advised to be kind and appreciative, Im known to my friends as both.
I very much appreciate any help I receive, and am teriffically grateful for this site, the roms and mods which take so much time to develop, and for any advice generously given by others.
anyway, back to the topic at ahnd because I am starting to understand, but that only generates more things to ask and discuss.
I just flashed SPL 1.2 to my device. you mentioned flashing AP4 to get SPL3.5 (but that its not much needed now). I saw SPL, Radio, and the ROM (operating system) as three separate software installs. So I guess I will go back and see what "AP4" is, unless its a ROM that includes the SPL?
anyway can it please be explained what Michy 4.1 rom would benefit vs my current WM6 that i got from HTC last year for the 7500?
thanks to all!
AdvantageGuy said:
first, im not sure why I need to be advised to be kind and appreciative, Im known to my friends as both.
I very much appreciate any help I receive, and am teriffically grateful for this site, the roms and mods which take so much time to develop, and for any advice generously given by others.
anyway, back to the topic at ahnd because I am starting to understand, but that only generates more things to ask and discuss.
I just flashed SPL 1.2 to my device. you mentioned flashing AP4 to get SPL3.5 (but that its not much needed now). I saw SPL, Radio, and the ROM (operating system) as three separate software installs. So I guess I will go back and see what "AP4" is, unless its a ROM that includes the SPL?
anyway can it please be explained what Michy 4.1 rom would benefit vs my current WM6 that i got from HTC last year for the 7500?
thanks to all!
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Yes welcome,
Michy's 4.1 rom was one of those roms that everything worked well on, it had only a few tiny bugs in it, the same as a stock rom. On his SPL 3.5 4.1 rom, opera plays most flash web sites (youtube, Guba, ect) without any work. It also has many other programs that you wonder how you managed without on it. Your stock rom is just the basics, so you buy the other software!! If you do go go on to SPL 3.5, make sure you start with AP 4.0 as you were told first. then go on to another rom. If you wnt to go back to SPL 1.2 you MUST use the downgrade first. If you forget or try to short cut it will mess up your athena and you will hve to fix it. The best advice I can give you after years on this site is READ THE WIKI
Im not a noob now, but im still lerning. There are some very clever people on here.
Regards
Jay
Hi Jay, thanks man!
I will read the wiki now that Im at work I can do that.
Any chance you could post a link to that 4.1 rom though it's not in the ROM list post that i can find, and a search on "4.1" doesnt yield anything so a Link would be greatly appreciated and I'll load it right away.
Thanks again and yes I'll be getting into the WIKI now. I love the Athena, and cannot believe there really is nothing else with it's features that i can find. At least used ones are coming down in cost, in case I break or lose mine. I rely on it every day for my work and other things.
In fact I just ordered a Ram Mount for mounting it in the car.
The link you want is HERE, I know it says 6.1 but keep going down past all the screen shots and you will get to the links for all of Michy's roms till you see 4.1. try SPL 1.2 first and see if you like it. However if you do then I recomend SPL 3.5 version. They are all worth a try at some time, 6.1 is very swish
WIKI is ace! Its a bible of nearly all known problems you can get with the athena (go down through all the PDA's till you see the athena). Just watch out swapping SPL's, it tends to leave you without WiFi.
ok found it thank you. only now, link dont work!!! arghhhh
I'll try again later perhaps...
[4.1]
SPL1.2: http://www.tdgoodshosting.com/Athena...R4.1-MiChY.rar
caution
Trying that link again got my IE to open dozens of windows, I had to shut down no other method would get it to stop.
Wish that ROM was hosted on rapidshare instead!
And of course this one (different rom but I was willing to try it) was deleted on rapidshare due to no downloads for too long:
Download link SPL1.2: http://rapidshare.de/files/40006763/...MiChY.rar.html
idea: maybe this site could start hosting at least some of the more popular files?
Michy 4.1 link
This is a link to Michy 4.1 SPL 1.2 for you I just uploaded http://rapidshare.com/files/217508231/Athena_SPL1.2_WWE_WM6.1_R4.1-MiChY.zip.html
Jay
much obliged Jay. I did d/l a couple other roms to try sometime, but I'm glad to have this one as it was said to be most stable and as a bonus has tcmp ability for youtube and most flash content. thanks again we'll see how it goes...
responderman said:
This is a link to Michy 4.1 SPL 1.2 for you I just uploaded http://rapidshare.com/files/217508231/Athena_SPL1.2_WWE_WM6.1_R4.1-MiChY.zip.html
Jay
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I used this one for months now but just swapped to the SPL 3.5 version and it seems to have the edge. try it for a week or so and see what you think.
I got the 4.1 n there now. like it! finally I have control over the device I paid so much for. and the advanced settings is awesom. so many simple things like now I can make the camera save to the sd card, and numerous other annoyances now gone.
couple issues though, first the voice control seems difficult. not as straight up as voice dial, and the recording process hesitates a lot, and the recorded command seems also to stutter. i'll keep playing with it tho.
i would like to have a battery indicator on the today screen. not sure if tahts possible or I just didnt find it yet.
youtube player finds videos with search, but they wont play, I get some kind of security cookie error.
flash content doesnt play, which it never did but not sure if this new cooked rom will let me get that to work (WHY wont adobe just release a player for WM?)
anyway I'm liking all these new features so thank you for the d/l and the others for the advice.
btw what specifically gives spl3.5 an edge?
Michy's 4.1 rom - where??
cash365 said:
Hello and welcome to our forum!
I would suggest to use the ROM on this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=380 for your answer to the 1st post. You could find in post 1 and 2 some really good proposals!
As for Michy 6.1 ROM that exists here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411371 read at the 3rd post you will find a link for the 4.1 version of this ROM, which many believe it's the most stable!
Please be kind to the persons who try to help you...
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Hi
A number of you guys have mentioned Michy's 4.1 Rom but the link doesn't work. Can anybody please reupload this rom for SPL1.2 or provide a working link?
sorry guys, just read all the last page and found it, thanx
go back up 4 posts, jay kindly put a link to it, which I d/l ed and now familiarizing with....
AdvantageGuy said:
caution
Trying that link again got my IE to open dozens of windows, I had to shut down no other method would get it to stop.
Wish that ROM was hosted on rapidshare instead!
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Sorry to mess with you about the transflective screen thing. I was just joking around.
I've got 4.1 kicking around here somewhere and will upload it to rapidshare asap. Here's the link.
http://rapidshare.com/files/217625607/Athena_SPL1.2_WWE_WM6.1_R4.1-MiChY__1_.zip.html
" It also has some pre-installed software that activates the transflexive screen option."
How can I get this app for another ROM.
thanks,
tovarish
tovarish said:
" It also has some pre-installed software that activates the transflexive screen option."
How can I get this app for another ROM.
thanks,
tovarish
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Oh no tovarish! You bit on the noob bait!
As the OP rightly commented, transflexive is a property of the screen hardware. No software can change the Athena's screen to transflexive.
Is it possible for anyone to use the updated Da_G kitchen to make an updated Clean rom?
I have been trying to do it on my own, but for some reason I cannot get it to work. I'm not very good with this stuff and I know that if I make a mistake I will end up with a messed up phone.
So please please pretty please, will someone update the Da_G clean rom?
jjwoznia said:
Is it possible for anyone to use the updated Da_G kitchen to make an updated Clean rom?
I have been trying to do it on my own, but for some reason I cannot get it to work. I'm not very good with this stuff and I know that if I make a mistake I will end up with a messed up phone.
So please please pretty please, will someone update the Da_G clean rom?
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Da_G already did off the att leaked rom, its in the att rom thread
If the Da_G 'leaked' ROM is still not satisfactory, have a look at these threads:
[TUT] Sous-Chef's Guide to Da_G's Simple Kitchen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=490787
Da_G's simple ROM Kitchen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471288
If you're having issues after that, don't hesitate to post a clear description of your problem in the Da_G's simple ROM Kitchen thread. Most of the chefs that follow the thread usually try to offer some insight.
HTH,
Yeah, the reason I asked for help is I'm not really good with stuff like that. And I can't be running the risk of bricking my phone. Hence me asking for someone to cook a rom up. And I'd rather not use the testing rom.
I'll assume you have already SPL'ed your phone with Olipro/OliNex HardSPL'ed.
Here's what I'd suggest;
Go through the [TUT] Sous-Chef's Guide to Da_G's Simple Kitchen guide. In a nutshell, the guide walks you through the entire process using an official HTC 5.05.405.1 ROM.
At the end of the guide, you will have a flashable end product that you can flash to your device. Since your HardSPL'ed, you will be able to recover in the event of a problem since all you are flashing is the ROM part - not the SPL, Radio, or Splash screen. Recovery would be a matter of flash a different cooked ROM or the .NBH file from the official HTC 5.05.405.1 ROM that you downloaded.
Once you feel comfortable with that, download Da_G's Simple ROM Kitchen (21402, Apr). It contains a good selection of packages that many of the Chefs use at the moment - i.e. they work. ;-)
Then if you have questions, post in the Da_G Kitchen thread - not this one.
HTH,
Download his 6.5 kitchen and follow the directions on his thread and you're good to go. Load the notsolitefuze, make sure if you have a CDMA phone you do none of this or the above lol.
Okay I have searched, looked at videos, commented some topics but still I have not found my answer.
If I was to download this Android Build: (Ex. [BUILD]15.09.10|mdeejay Froyo Sense v. 2.1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780525
or
[BUILD] [18.08.2010] [darkstone HD2Froyo V2.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735532
Do I need to download anything else other than what's already included in the Android Build? I keep hearing about this radio rom, Cooked rom, etc.
Do I need that stuff?
Thank you very much.
They are READY-TO-USE BUILD....
I am no expert but this is my understanding, most importantly Android causes problems somehow with the stock ROM on you HD2 so you will want to put a custom WinMo ROM onto the phone before you try using Android. In order for you to flash to a different WinMo rom you will need to follow the va0rious steps there too, there are a lot of great guides on the forums but during that process you make your phone able to take major changes (like ROM and Radios).
All the guides include steps on how to change your Radio as well as the ROM, I know there is at least one stickied in the ROM discussion forum (not Android ROM). The builder of the Android you choose will invariably offer suggestions as to what ROM they use for WinMo and what Radio they have had the best results with. That is what I think you are talking about as far as Radio in relation to Android. Like WinMo different Radios are more or less effective, and even more so than WinMo they can cause major havoc if you disregard the instructions about what Radio you should use (I know of some that will apparently brick the phone)
I am sure someone that knows more than me will answer sooner or later but hope that helps
1. Install HSPL if you are still on Stock ROM
2. Install Android Compatible WM ROM from this forum (ChuckyDroid,OzDroid,VBNROM)
3. Install Radio >= 2.08.50.xx (Dont install .51 Radio)
4. Install Android build of your choice as instructions in respective threads
For all the above, search using keywords HSPL, etc and you will reach gold.
PS : I am not responsible for you bricking the device. If you are hesitant, dont do it !
Hello everybody, I am new in matter of Smarth Phones and more even, on HTC one's...
I have a HTC HD2 T-Mobile
Qualcomm 8250B 1ghz procesador
576 RAM
1024 Flash Memory Size
687.12 MB Storage Size
16 GB Micro SD memory
OS vrsion 5.2.219.13 (21913.5.0.94)
Manila version: 2.5.20181424.0
ROM version: 3.14.531.1 (04666) WWE
Radio Version: 2.15.50.14
Protocol Version: 15.42.50.11U
I want to know 4 things:
What is the ¨Radio¨ thing, as I said, I am new in this so I want to know what it is and what is it about, cause I hear people talking about fixing their bugs and freezes by changing it.... explanation?
What changes when changing the Radio? when you change it, it comes side by side with the ROM? or they are changed separatly...? (sorry about my english)
Can install ROMS for HTC HD2 normal version to a HTC HD2 T-Mobile version? without having problems?
And the last one.... I understand that the ROM is not the OS, since it is Win 6.5.... but.... what it is exactly then?... and can someone tell me about the MOST ESTABLE ROM available for my HTC HD2 T-Mobile? Doesn't matter if it's unofficial ROM, at least that it works fine and better than the original one that freezes a lot...?
PS. : I'm pretty good at computers (I like to think so...XD) and I learn fast, so please feel free to explain me how ever you can and I'll do my best to understand it. thnx!
Read sticky FAQ. All your questions are answered there
Hi Emilio,
Let me try to answer your questions - someone correct me if I'm wrong... this is what I've understood from browsing the forums for a half a year now...
The radio in your phone is what controls all wireless access, such as wifi and cell reception. Different radios have different battery life/better reception depending on the cellphone - I haven't seen anyone come out and say one is the best although I have been using 2.15 for quite some time now and it's pretty good. Just remember your radio has to be 2.xx.50 because of your type of phone (T-Mobile/TMOUS) or else you will brick your phone (it wont work).
Some ROMs change your radio when you flash - although I haven't come across any custom ROMs that do. In any case, any time you flash make sure the ROM says TMOUS or T-mobile supported! Also, before you flash you need HSPL (search the forums to find out what it is and how to use it).
The ROMs the the awesome chefs here make are usually based on WM 6.5 or 6.5.x - but you dont have to worry about it. For all purposes its Windows Mobile 6.5.x or 6.5 and all windows programs work, etc.
Which ROM is best? That's a long argument. I've been using Energy Roms for quite some time now - every time I flash I always make my way back to Energy in the end. Just go through the ROM section - most ROMs are good (actually so far I haven't come across a bad one) and they are almost all much more stable and smoother. Just remember to make sure it's TMOUS compatible.
Flashing HSPL, Radios, and ROMs are in the forum and perfectly well explained... just search and you'll see.
thank you man!
salonluden said:
Hi Emilio,
Let me try to answer your questions - someone correct me if I'm wrong... this is what I've understood from browsing the forums for a half a year now...
The radio in your phone is what controls all wireless access, such as wifi and cell reception. Different radios have different battery life/better reception depending on the cellphone - I haven't seen anyone come out and say one is the best although I have been using 2.15 for quite some time now and it's pretty good. Just remember your radio has to be 2.xx.50 because of your type of phone (T-Mobile/TMOUS) or else you will brick your phone (it wont work).
Some ROMs change your radio when you flash - although I haven't come across any custom ROMs that do. In any case, any time you flash make sure the ROM says TMOUS or T-mobile supported! Also, before you flash you need HSPL (search the forums to find out what it is and how to use it).
thnk you very much!... oh... so, Energy ROMS are estable enough to change ?
The ROMs the the awesome chefs here make are usually based on WM 6.5 or 6.5.x - but you dont have to worry about it. For all purposes its Windows Mobile 6.5.x or 6.5 and all windows programs work, etc.
Which ROM is best? That's a long argument. I've been using Energy Roms for quite some time now - every time I flash I always make my way back to Energy in the end. Just go through the ROM section - most ROMs are good (actually so far I haven't come across a bad one) and they are almost all much more stable and smoother. Just remember to make sure it's TMOUS compatible.
Flashing HSPL, Radios, and ROMs are in the forum and perfectly well explained... just search and you'll see.
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thnx! a lot!
one thing missed in the otherwise comprehensive answer above...
you have 3.14 rom, so as it stands hspl cannot be installed so cooked roms and radios cannot be installed.
should you want to try the cooked roms you would first flash the stock tmous 2.10 rom, which willdowngrade your spl and hspl3 will work.
oh! so I have to get to my old rom first after changing to the Energy ROMS?
yep. there are 3.14 based cooked roms coming out but not many, most are 2.x based so require the downgrade.
you don't have to wait for the flash to completely set up and running before you flash the cooked rom, as soon as the flash finishes, and windows begins to set up, pop the battery and enter bootloader, apply hspl, enter bootloader again and flash the rom.