Warm Raph? - Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development

My Phone's pretty warm, never experienced this from a cell phone before. A guesstimate would be it's 15-20 degrees over ambient. Normal?

MerCiLeSS28 said:
My Phone's pretty warm, never experienced this from a cell phone before. A guesstimate would be it's 15-20 degrees over ambient. Normal?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds like the CPU is running full blast. Soft Reset usually fixes it.

Yeh battery is dieing fast, very fast, 20% a hour so far O_O

this same thing happened to me two days ago and i was so freaked out. even a soft reset doesnt fix. I switched ROMs but i think a hard reset will fix it

For me it was a soft reset. I had just loaded 21725 and went on the road using ATT Navigator. The Fuze got HOT and discharged at a furious rate...20% per hour or more. When I got to destination I soft reset, (turned off GPS as no longer needed), and did a car charger trick. It worked and did not repeat even though I used the gps again.

derylmccarty said:
For me it was a soft reset. I had just loaded 21725 and went on the road using ATT Navigator. The Fuze got HOT and discharged at a furious rate...20% per hour or more. When I got to destination I soft reset, (turned off GPS as no longer needed), and did a car charger trick. It worked and did not repeat even though I used the gps again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Touch Pros or Fuzes are notorious for running hot if the GPS chip is being used.

AdamNimrod said:
The Touch Pros or Fuzes are notorious for running hot if the GPS chip is being used.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Or wireless for that matter. If I leave my wireless on while charging it can get really hot

mine was getting hot enough to shut down and burning through the battery faster than the charger could replinish it

Mine would get very hot using BT when I had MSVC installed. Now I use ROMS w/o MSVC, and the only time it runs warm is using ATT Navigator. I solved that problem as well with creative use of dental floss and a big paper clip to secure it to a vent while running the air conditioning ;P
I haven't come across anyone else having temp issues using MSVC, but in my experience using a dozen different ROMS or so, it has always caused my phone to run hot - and I don't like hot electronics.
Out of curiosity, anyone else hold the same opinion of MSVC?

Not MSVC alone, but the more processes running from start up like MSVC then of course the harder the processor works which equals heat. Add multiple processes with Wifi, 3G connection, & GPS or any number of other processes with the heat from the LCD & it'll heat up quickly.
Unless I am using the net, I usually force GSM or Edge mode. Battery lasts longer & unit stays cooler.

GSLEON3 said:
Not MSVC alone, but the more processes running from start up like MSVC then of course the harder the processor works which equals heat. Add multiple processes with Wifi, 3G connection, & GPS or any number of other processes with the heat from the LCD & it'll heat up quickly.
Unless I am using the net, I usually force GSM or Edge mode. Battery lasts longer & unit stays cooler.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks GSLEON3,
Now you've done it. The monkey on my back wants more!
Must... Flash... Test... Voice... Control... MUHUHAHAHA
I suppose it's worth checking out and seeing what exactly "enhanced" means for myself. If I can control the temp, I'll like using it.

Related

battery draining while using GPS.

I just went on a trip and about 2 or so hours into the trip my cell phone went dead even though it was plugged in. I was using my GPS. I recharged my phone and tried again and I could see the battery was draining even though it was plugged in.
Is there a fix for this problem? I'm was using Sprint ROM, but switched to Might Mikes, but still have the same problem.
what ends up happening with the pda devices is that it looks to the battery for energy only. even if it's plugged in if you drain the battery faster than it can charge then it will go dead. i don't know if there is even a different rom that can cercumvent that, but that would be the only way to fix it.
...or if you could find a gps program that uses less energy. that should work too.
I tried again using the GPS, but this time I had a DC to AC converter and plugged in my phone. Although I didn't run the GPS that long, maybe a half hour or so, the phone battery didn't loose any noticeable charge. It was fully charged when I stopped the GPS.
I'm also looking to replace my battery with a higher capacity battery. Can anyone make a recommendation? I don't want a larger battery as far as size, but one that has more capacity. Let me know if there is a battery on the market that will meet my requirements.
Touch Pro has a safety feature to stop charging when the temperature sensor goes past a certain point. It is much more likely to reach that point when you are running GPS and in car with the sun beating down.
Workaround for that is to turn on the AC.
I had the same issue this May when driving through GA while on vacation.
The phone does stop the charging process when it feels it is too hot but will continue to operate thus discharging the battery quickly but never letting you get a charge in.
My solution was to buy a mount for the phone that clipped onto the AC vent and let cool air run on it the entire time and that solved the problem.
Hope that helps.
Yes, anytime I run the GPS the phone does get warm. However, I do have a vent mount holder for the phone with AC blowing right on the back of it. That doesn't resolve my problem.
I'm interested in a very high capacity battery if anyone can personally recommend one.
Have only had my sprint pro for 2 weeks and concur the battery life is bad. I find heating problems during lots of tasks and sometimes doing seemingly nothing(in sleep mode). I found that my gps was draining the battery even when not in use. I installed a cab to toggle it and that has helped alot. My data is set to go off automatically after a short time also. I'm trying every tweak I can think of and googling for more.
The oem batt was 1340mAh, My old gsm pro had an extended 1500mAh which I tried , with little improvement. I'm currently running a 2000mAh extended with the enlarged door and this helps but lots of juice is still draining away. On a positive note, the warmness seems to be mostly gone. My goal is to be able to go a full day with moderate usage. Today may be the day. I think I saw a 3000mAh as well, maybe at seidio. I was going to return the pro and get another one, but it sounds like they are all the same issue. An awesome phone, a real shame this is a problem. I think data off and gps off will help me alot. My $.02
Can you share the GPS toggle off and on program?
jviola said:
Can you share the GPS toggle off and on program?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Give this a try.
I installed the program and I see the GPStoggle.dll under windows, but I don't see anyway to run the program? How do I enable and disable it?

Hot battery

hi, I am running cm7 with stock kernel. Just recently my phone has been getting really hot. I checked the temp and its almost 110 degrees. I haven't installed anything recently either.
I can leave the phone sitting there not using it and it'll still be high. Should I install another kernel or do I need to change settings on my phone? I am using extended battery too.
Thanks.
Sent from my ThunderBolt using XDA App
Hmm any case on it? When its charging leave it face down too.
I have no case on it. Will searching for a signal cause the battery to get hot? My cell standby is at 54% and it says time without signal 67%
Sent from my ThunderBolt using XDA App
Mine got real hot after loading the latest CM7, while trying to sync all on 4G. It was smoking hot in my pocket, so I pulled it out, and took the Trident Aegis case off to help it cool down. I looked and noticed it was stuck at 3G but still trying to sync all.
I had to do the time consuming routine to get 4G every time I turn on the data, and my GPS was still not working, so the hot battery sealed the deal... back to BAMF 1.8 till the next CM7 release is ready to test.
I ran into this one time and found that turning off Wifi seemed to do the trick. It seemed as though constant searching for an available Wifi network caused my battery to get hot. This makes sense if you read how tethering causes some phones to get hot as well.
Thanks I guess the searching for a single is the culprit bc it doesn't get hot while charging.
Sent from my ThunderBolt using XDA App
I'm experiencing the same thing and the exact cause is a mystery to me. The battery definitely gets hotter than it did with BAMF stripped 2.1, yet I get much better battery life than I ever did with sense. This completely defies logic since the two things that will make a li-poly battery warm are a high C draw or charge, but a high C draw should correlate to poor battery life yet it doesn't. I'm starting to wonder if something other than the battery is causing the heat...
NPO
Sent from my ThunderBolt using XDA Premium App
One other thing to add, my battery level went from full to low in less than 2.5 hours when this happened. While I believe it was the battery that got hot, in reality I am not 100% sure. I do know that after turning Wifi off and charging the battery, the problem did not return. I am now very careful to toggle Wifi Off/On as my needs dictate. I do this even though I have set Wifi to turn off after 15 minutes from the advanced Wifi menu option. The Wifi 15 minute timeout was in effect when my phone got hot, so I am fairly certain it did not work as it should have. Hope this helps...

[Q] Anyone else's phone running hot?

I've been noticing a good amount of heat up by the camera during moderate use. I thought this was a CM7 problem since I had been on it since day 1, but I am now on UnNamed and the problem persists. After some googling it does seem that many other people are having this problem. Not on WIFI, and not in a poor signal area either. Just wanted to see if anyone had any leads as to the cause. What is a good app for monitoring CPU usage by app?
Yes, it may get a little hot but it isn't something to worry about as far as I know. I've gamed for three hours straight and not had any problems except for a low battery life!
yeah mine gets hot near the camera during use but i dont think its a problem
I use a battery monitor.
From what I've read, it will shut off for protection. I've heard that as long as it doesn't ever get too much above 130 F, you should be OK.
Now if it constantly stays high, there may be a problem. Mine stays around 80 F most of the time and the highest I've ever seen is 99 F but i don't game much or use my camera. One thing you don't wanna do is charge it while hd gaming or charge it in a hot car. My infuse reached 146 F one time doing that.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using XDA App
I only notice my battery gets hot when im charging while playing a game or sometimes watching a movie
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using XDA App
Somehow 'Words with Friends' caused my phone to really warm up a lot. More so than I've seen with any other situation and on numerous occasions. Luckily I suck at that game and uninstalled it...
Mine is cool unless i put a thick case then itll burn up
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using XDA App
When I first got CM7 running on this thing, I tore through the market installing the apps I'm used to. When I was finished, I noticed that it was indeed a bit warm in the area you described. It wasn't hot enough to cause discomfort, just warm enough to note.
I notice when my phone gets hot in that area when it is around 30% remaining and I charge it. I also notice that when it is charging, it really isn't charging but battery is draining. When I got home and charged it at 30%, I left it sitting there for about 30 minutes and when I checked the phone again, it was at 25%. GPS and wifi was turned off. I decided to power down the phone and remove the battery for 5 minutes. I started working fine after that. I noticed it getting hot again today when I plugged it in to charge at 40% but this time it actually was charging. I am running stock rom but rooted. Should this be a concern?
Seems as though a lot of people are having a variation of this problem. Hopefully it is addressed soon.
The CPU will always get a bit warm if it's running.
If it's getting very hot when the screen is off, you've probably got some background task wakelocking the phone.
My phone's screen gets pretty hot when I run web videos/flash videos on HSPA.
Runs a tiny bit warm when i'm running pristine 3D Tegra games on it...otherwise no.

Second rezound still getting toasty... Opinions?

So, i will make this blunt... This non overclocked phone gets hotter than any other mobile device i have tried...
I am already on my second one, after number one hit 125 while sitting on my desk. This one has hit 114, which is still unacceptable really, since the room is climate controlled to around 74...what happens when I use it in the summer??
Now, by virtue of need (infrastructure tether) , I am using the ICS beta, but I cannot believe it will effect it that much. I have a 3.7v battery, so that should be good.. I will admit that I am in a building that does not do well for 4g, but frankly, my phone burning itself up just searching for a signal is unacceptable as well...
I am about ready to throw in the towel and try a GNex, even though its radio problems scare me too...Any advice guys?
what apps are running, also is this while it is charging?
Just want to start with a big thanks for all of your work over on the nook boards. The overheating has been an issue since the start. I am on my third because of it. I only reach high temps when playing games. I can stream movies all day long, and never get over 110. I am waiting for an aftermarket battery that can handle the drain from this beast phone. I guess it depends on what you will use your phone for. Glad to see you here, and hope you stay. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Good luck....
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk
Most apps won't affect temperature in any real way.
Tethering requires broadcasting wifi signal, and equivalently large wifi broadcast (broadcast SSID, and all data) at an equal speed to the ultra-fast 4g.
Now, this 4g phone (as well as ANY OTHER LTE PHONE RIGHT NOW) will overheat if you download a 300-500MB file at a fast 4g speed (like 25 MBit for instance).
Overheat. Untouchable.
Wifi tether (even on 3g) will overheat a phone if you're using a decent amount of data (rather than using it for short bursts).
My HTC Eris, I had to leave the back battery cover off, and put a cold can of soda (with a paper towl in between to stop moisture) to keep it from overheating.
The Rezound will get so hot that you literally can't touch it.
Charging WHILE you tether will make it a lot worse, as the chemical activity within the battery (to charge it) is going to increase heat. Add that to 4g cell phone connection, and the wifi antenna getting hot broadcasting, and you've got a 125 degree phone (which IS hot enough to start breaking solder points).
If you have it OFF the charger at that temperature, you will notice that the notification light is now flashing orange/green back and forth. This means that the unit is overheating and should be shut off, immediately.
Get the extended battery to hang out and wireless tether for a while. It generates a whole lot less heat if not on the charger, and seems to (maybe due to the case that has more space for air in it) not heat up quite as much, in my experience.
Tethering can overheat your phone. 4g can overheat your phone. Add charging to that, and it doesn't matter how many rezounds (or GNEXes) you get. These things have no real ventilation, and there's no indication that they're going to start designing them with good ventilation that I know of.
Good luck, power user. Users like you force them to think about their poor designs and improve them. But it definitely won't handle a lot of 4g tethering without overheating. I'd expect that, without ever even having a Rezound (even though I have one).
They say 130 is the kiss of death for the Rezound but even if you're peaking in that neighborhood I'd swap out the phone for a new one. 120-130 degrees...That's like keeping lava in your phone and hoping it doesn't melt.
I hit 130 with my Inc1, and it was fine. Just navigating, not charging, for 30 min did it lol.
Mine heats up excessively and burns thru battery even sitting idle with airplane mode enabled and GPS turned off (damn Verizon and their location agent they snuck in with the update). The issue here is:
A) I'm not using it nor touching it period for a few hours at a time and its still already below 30% battery without my having used it.
B) yes I have an extra battery but when I try to switch out batteries it goes into a bootloop and won't recognize the Sim card for the next half hour.
These are my problems. I have yet to exchange it cause let's be honest...who here enjoys setting up a whole other phone? Should I seek a replacement?
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium
Geoi1006 said:
Mine heats up excessively and burns thru battery even sitting idle with airplane mode enabled and GPS turned off (damn Verizon and their location agent they snuck in with the update). The issue here is:
A) I'm not using it nor touching it period for a few hours at a time and its still already below 30% battery without my having used it.
B) yes I have an extra battery but when I try to switch out batteries it goes into a bootloop and won't recognize the Sim card for the next half hour.
These are my problems. I have yet to exchange it cause let's be honest...who here enjoys setting up a whole other phone? Should I seek a replacement?
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Back it up to your ext card and exchange. Don't forget to hard reset. They are sending refurbished units with prev owner data out there. Should only get hot when playing intense games or streaming lots data.
I had this heating and severe battery loss problem. There were times my phone would run fine and other times when it would lose 40% battery in 30 minutes. It seemed to be worse when I was moving around the city (changing towers???). I even had one experience where I turned the phone off and it continued to generate lots of heat until the battery died while supposedly powered off.
I tried every stock and rooted GB rom (no ICS) on XDA and a few not on XDA. I finally "fixed" it by RUU'ing my phone to the latest OTA, rerooting and reinstalling all my apps (no TiB). My phone now runs about 16 hours on a charge and only gets slightly warm (never hot) when you would expect it to.
I did a fair amount of reading and never did find an answer but my suspicion is that something between the rom and radio got out of sync resulting in the rom not controlling the radio properly. No science. Just a theory...
Hope this helps someone, somewhere. I know I've gotten lots of help from others on here.
Thanks!
Had many heat concerns/ issues with my rezounds in the past, now have a phone that games at about 115. My opinion after much research is that a 115 peak is about normal for this generation of phones (Gnex, S2, etc). Anything better than this is not the norm and if you get one that stays cooler, it's just luck. I had one that used to get around 150 so at 115, I never even notice anymore. My rule of thumb is to just keep exchanging the hot ones until you get one in the comfort zone. Unfortunately, it's just the reality we're dealing with until they start equipping better cooling solutions.
OK, first I think we need to understand if people are talking F or C when they throw out numbers like 124. If that is C, you have a seriously defective unit. If that is F, that is like moderately hot tapwater, and neither too hot to touch nor hot enough to damage solder joints. If it were, the computer I'm typing this on would be dissolving in my lap.
Welp
I have many a thread out there on this topic. I did 3 swaps for new units during my extended "no regrets" window, and this past week got 2 different refurbs for comparison. Here is my 2 cents (but based on a LOT of research and testing):
1) These phones run hot. If you look hard enough at XDA you will see people posting along the lines of "I don't know what you are talking about, I use my Rezound to chill a beer" and other such. You might be best to ignore those people.
2) There are some VERY bad Rezounds out there, but those are easily found. Those that jump to 130 straight off because they started to download some updates gotta go back. That was refurb 1.
3) My experience is that idling at 75-80 will produce 106 on a short HD game, 110-120 on a longer HD game. You might get 113 on Navigation. It will heat up to 100 on surfing (longer if you have more), but otherwise topping out at 120. If you fit within this, stop your search, and try to enjoy your phone.
Again, just my 2 cents.
I haven't done extensive testing, but I have noticed that when my phone has overheated it has always been when I left something running on it when I locked the screen. I've started hitting the home button every time I put down the phone for more than a few minutes and I haven't had many problems. I definitely get toasty when I play games while charging though.
As someone else already mentioned, the phone needs to get quite a bit hotter than most people are experiencing before it starts having problems. With how small the phones I would expect you would receive an instant 1st degree burn from touching it before the phone actually had problems. 150 C is somewhere around 302 F. For reference, I usually solder 400 F.
My first rezound got around 135 degrees I took it back the next day.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium
This laptop is running at 120F just looking at this website, and it has active cooling.
Imagine a 1.5GHz dual core PC and then unplug all the fans, including the one on the CPU, and then close up all the openings in the case. Do you think it might get a little warm?
Not only do you have the CPU generating heat, but the more current you draw from a battery, the hotter it gets. And we all know how this phone can draw the battery.
Geoi1006 said:
Mine heats up excessively and burns thru battery even sitting idle with airplane mode enabled and GPS turned off (damn Verizon and their location agent they snuck in with the update). The issue here is:
A) I'm not using it nor touching it period for a few hours at a time and its still already below 30% battery without my having used it.
B) yes I have an extra battery but when I try to switch out batteries it goes into a bootloop and won't recognize the Sim card for the next half hour.
These are my problems. I have yet to exchange it cause let's be honest...who here enjoys setting up a whole other phone? Should I seek a replacement?
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is something wrong with your phone. I swap batteries instead of charging, swapping out 1 extended battery for another (got them onsale at verizon when they were 20 bucks), and the phone boots up in about a minute.
If it is bootlooping, then I would try a hard reset first, then contact verizon and tell them about it.
As far as the OP goes, if you are in a poor signal area, I have read in multiple places that phones use more battery and generate more heat if you are in a poor signal area.
Swapping this for a Nexus will probably get you no 4g at all.
I wouldn't worry about the phone unless it was consistently getting so hot that the LED starts flashing amber.
My Rezound has peaked at 140 according to System Tuner Pro. I was charging and web browsing as soon as I woke up, like what I'm doing now lol. Was on 3G. Also, I wasn't overclocked at all. Governor wasn't even on performance lol.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using XDA Premium.
jdmba said:
I have many a thread out there on this topic. I did 3 swaps for new units during my extended "no regrets" window, and this past week got 2 different refurbs for comparison. Here is my 2 cents (but based on a LOT of research and testing):
1) These phones run hot. If you look hard enough at XDA you will see people posting along the lines of "I don't know what you are talking about, I use my Rezound to chill a beer" and other such. You might be best to ignore those people.
2) There are some VERY bad Rezounds out there, but those are easily found. Those that jump to 130 straight off because they started to download some updates gotta go back. That was refurb 1.
3) My experience is that idling at 75-80 will produce 106 on a short HD game, 110-120 on a longer HD game. You might get 113 on Navigation. It will heat up to 100 on surfing (longer if you have more), but otherwise topping out at 120. If you fit within this, stop your search, and try to enjoy your phone.
Again, just my 2 cents.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol dude, there is no point in ignoring us people who say our rezounds run cold, because of the fact that there's rezounds out there that don't exhibit behavior like yours.
i've seen all of your threads, and commented in all of them, and you got 3 shotty phones, plain and simple man. my phone never reaches over 100, even with over an hour straight of screen on browsing, facebooking, youtubing, gaming etc. so there, i have a normal rezound. it's from launch day, and it's never given me any problems like that whatsoever.
so no, don't ignore us who have cool running phones, because there IS such a thing..some people just have really bad luck dealing with it.
also keep in mind that the past two phones you got WERE refurbs. you do realize the refurb pool is gonna be full of hot running rezounds, since a lot of people returned the phone due to heat problems, right?
I believe some of the Rezounds get hot due to software issues. My phone will stay room temp and run for 16+ hours on a standard battery while running any GB rom . Once I flash any ICS rom my battery averages 90 to 120 degrees. As it is charging next to me right now, it is sitting at 104 degrees while doing nothing. I could switch back to a GB rom right now and it would be sitting around 80 degrees. So I believe some if not most are software/firmware issues. I am not saying their aren't ones with hardware issues but it can't be all of them.
I have ran the OTA update and am running Senseless ICS.

[Q] Phone very hot after charging/ use

I got and activated my DNA yesterday. Phone got very hot after charging (from the wall outlet ). I activated the phone and played with it a little and left it alone. Now it seems cooler.
Anyone else experience heat issues with the phone ? I am trying to determine if I got a defective piece or if it is a characteristic of this phone. I had a htc phone before which did Not have this problem.
Also, is the phone's temp displayed under some setting options ?
Thanks,
cornfool
Same with me. It gets much hotter during wireless charging though.
Sent from my Droid DNA. 1080p never looked so sweet
I noticed this as well, it gets very warm when charging (even more so with wireless charging), and it gets warm with even light use.
the HTC DROID DNA when activated and signed into Google email it will be a lot of data to get itself restored. I'm sure you guys at it Facebook or Google Plus that right there with Poul a lot of data to pull in contacts and contact information plus have settings. I got mine yesterday any got extremely high alarming hi but over tonight is cool down it's not fully no more data which is somewhere around 3 gigabytes last night this seems to be doing fine now
Check the ratings of the wakk outlet...many HTCs have prob of over heating...go power master shows temperature...
Sent from my One V using xda app-developers app
Now that I used the phone whole day today. I still see an issue of phone heating up quite a bit when being used for longer than say 15 to 20 mins. Even playing the amira game that is included for about 10 mins causes the phone to heat up quite a bit.
I am thinking I have a defective piece
Mini review:
Overall very responsive and fast. Battery life was not too bad, my usage scenario seemed to hold up fine. Not as good as iphone ofcourse but I can live with this.
gps was fine, chrome is smooth. Problem areas for me so far are
1. Heating up of the phone'
2. low light pictures show a lot of noise compared to gs3 and iphone 5
Thanks
cornfool said:
Now that I used the phone whole day today. I still see an issue of phone heating up quite a bit when being used for longer than say 15 to 20 mins. Even playing the amira game that is included for about 10 mins causes the phone to heat up quite a bit.
I am thinking I have a defective piece
Mini review:
Overall very responsive and fast. Battery life was not too bad, my usage scenario seemed to hold up fine. Not as good as iphone ofcourse but I can live with this.
gps was fine, chrome is smooth. Problem areas for me so far are
1. Heating up of the phone'
2. low light pictures show a lot of noise compared to gs3 and iphone 5
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you should install a battery widget that shows temp to be sure. My rezound still gets up to 115 or so on 4g, but doesn't effect the performance of the phone.
cornfool said:
Now that I used the phone whole day today. I still see an issue of phone heating up quite a bit when being used for longer than say 15 to 20 mins. Even playing the amira game that is included for about 10 mins causes the phone to heat up quite a bit.
I am thinking I have a defective piece
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mine does the same thing, but it's more like after 5 minutes of constant use it starts to get very warm.

Categories

Resources