I'm debating on which device should I get. I really like the Hero due to the new sense UI but also seen the new sense UI port to the Magic. I'm stuck using my touch hd which after seeing the hero making not want it anymore.....any opinions?
if you knwo what the guys here are like, then i have no doubt that sooner or later a good working version of the new UI will be ported to the Magic.
Personally, i'd take the magic and wait for that, cos despite the fact that i love how the Hero works, personally i think it is ugly as sin. But obvioulsy that is a personal opinion, so YMMV.
I have just picked up the htc magic. I got it all hacked and moded and put v 1.4 of fatal1ty's Hero rom on it. It's GREAT! If you want to join the Hero party, but don't want to wait, or you don't really care too much about the 5mp camera (magic's is 3.2mp) then you're more than set to pick up a magic.
At this point, price is going to be the biggest issue, essentially, there's very little else different between the two, aside from the obvious outer appearance.
If you don't have an android phone yet, grab yourself the magic. Use it for a while with the stock android rom, (you'll love the change), then, when you're ready, you can try the Hero Rom and be wowed all over again. At least... that's what I did.
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I have just picked up the htc magic. I got it all hacked and moded and put v 1.4 of fatal1ty's Hero rom on it. It's GREAT! If you want to join the Hero party, but don't want to wait, or you don't really care too much about the 5mp camera (magic's is 3.2mp) then you're more than set to pick up a magic.
At this point, price is going to be the biggest issue, essentially, there's very little else different between the two, aside from the obvious outer appearance.
If you don't have an android phone yet, grab yourself the magic. Use it for a while with the stock android rom, (you'll love the change), then, when you're ready, you can try the Hero Rom and be wowed all over again. At least... that's what I did.
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Good info, thanks for that. Though the processor/ram were different inside though too?
Thanks for the opinions guys. You're right about it being the same despite the the camera and to be honest with you I have the Touch HD and I barely even use the camera. I'm convince to get the magic tomorrow sense ui sold me...
Hero, you are buying into a tech that will be changed in 6 days Go new!
Plus the 3.5 mm jack, Magic doesn't have that from what I hear, plus the teflon coating
Ah yes, I forgot to mention that there's no 3.5 inch headphone jack. Only a mini usb jack. I forgot because I use a bluetooth stereo headset (nokia 503) and never really miss the 3.5 jack.
You can get a small adapter for the usb port to turn it into a headphone jack. Either way, the processor is 528mhz, and the ram is the same. I recommend getting the rogers, or htc branded magic. Don't go for the vodaphone, for some reason it's missing 90 megs of ram (only 192 or so megs of ram instead of 288). Aside from that, the magic REALLY isn't that different.
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nicelad_uk said:
Plus the 3.5 mm jack, Magic doesn't have that from what I hear, plus the teflon coating
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hehe Teflon coating! OMG!!! It's a cool idea, but generally speaking, if you take good care of your phone, it'll be useless. If you drop your phone a lot, or slide it around on hard surfaces, or for that matter, put hard objects in your pocket with your phone, you really shouldn't get a phone like this, or you should accept the fact that you've got bad habits.
Even the Hero will take wear and tear with poor treatment. On the bright side, any phone can be kept new looking if you actually take good care of it.
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nah hero hero hero hero! Magic is lame. Old android is rubbish, and the ports dont have real widgets for some reason or another! A lot of magic's have reduced ram too! If you can get it, htc hero will be a good investment! The magic is weird to hold, and the camera is slow, and its aestheitcs are nothing on the hero. hero hero hero hero!
Lol I'm confuse now. I really like the Hero cause of the UI and the way it looks but its really expensive buying it off ebay. I live in new york and the Magic is coming to Tmobile. I was going to wait til it was released here but I think i'll just cough up the money and get the HERO, Or should I wait til they figure a way to port android to the TOUCH HD (which I'm starting to hate aftering seeing the HERO) No different between the hero and magic?
Do not suppress your inner wants....go HERO! Magic is second best old tech. The gadgeteer in you demands Hero
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Lol I'm confuse now. I really like the Hero cause of the UI and the way it looks but its really expensive buying it off ebay. I live in new york and the Magic is coming to Tmobile. I was going to wait til it was released here but I think i'll just cough up the money and get the HERO, Or should I wait til they figure a way to port android to the TOUCH HD (which I'm starting to hate aftering seeing the HERO) No different between the hero and magic?
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You could be waiting years. I had a Touch HD 6 months ago and they were trying it then. Never say never though, you'll probably have a new phone by then anyway.
So if I was to get the magic and port the hero rom into it, I wouldnt get all the widgets?
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I'm debating on which device should I get. I really like the Hero due to the new sense UI but also seen the new sense UI port to the Magic. I'm stuck using my touch hd which after seeing the hero making not want it anymore.....any opinions?
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Just been reading about this Sense UI on the Magic.
1. Its really slow, unbelivably slow in fact
2. Lots and Lots of bugs, some people can't even get messages!
Think its a hero for me!
Can't beleive this is even a discussion tbh.
The Magic is oldddd! Months old tbh.
what kinda of question is that lol jk. Hero their both touch screen only and hero is clearly better so why not treat yourself
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This saddens and excites me. I want it, but I just paid for my TP original. Bigger screen looks awesome! Here's the article I first found this info on:
HTC's Touch Diamond, and its QWERTY'd doppelganger the Touch Pro, have formally passed into their second generation:
http://i.gizmodo.com/5154108/htc-to...o2-feature-bigger-screens-better-battery-life
I've heard GSM only which really sucks. I would love that bigger screen!!
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I've heard GSM only which really sucks. I would love that bigger screen!!
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i hope not!!! cause i would buy it as soon as i can if its CDMA
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I've heard GSM only which really sucks. I would love that bigger screen!!
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From here: http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6872
Remember the HTC 2009 Roadmap leak back in January? Sure you do - it was a pretty big deal here in Windows Mobile land.
So, in what we've seen so far from MWC, was the leak right? Were the Touch Pro2 and Diamond2 on the roadmap? Yes, they were, and we can get a pretty good indication of what carrier is getting what through this roadmap.
The Diamond2 was the Topaz, and according to the leaked roadmap, AT&T will be getting this device, probably in time for holiday time 2009.
The Touch Pro2 is the Rhodium (or, a slight variation of it since it doesn't have a red keyboard). The Rhodium is going to Verizon, says the roadmap, though a variation of the Rhodium (perhaps without a tilting screen) called the Tungsten
, may be headed to Sprint and T-Mobile. Oh yes, and not picture here, the Saphire turned out to be the HTC Magic Android-based device.
Well isn't that just f'n dandy? They can't even realease proper working GPS without severe lag or improper tracking, of FM for that matter, but no less than 3 months after the release of the TP, which I also bought, they release the next big thing. Real smooth, HTC. I'm thinking this is my definite last HTC device.
They can now count me in as a very unhappy customer.
So far as I see the TP and TP2 are very similar:
Pluses Touch Pro:
+Dpad
-VGA Resolution
- VZW memory limited
Touch Pro 2:
+WVGA Screen
+Better Speakerphone (?)
+Zoom Slider (?)
-No Dpad
+Tilt Keyboard
Sooo...other than these, are all the changes software which we will see anyway?
PS - I just picked up Touch Pro today because I really do like the Dpad...
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Well isn't that just f'n dandy? They can't even realease proper working GPS without severe lag or improper tracking, of FM for that matter, but no less than 3 months after the release of the TP, which I also bought, they release the next big thing. Real smooth, HTC. I'm thinking this is my definite last HTC device.
They can now count me in as a very unhappy customer.
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You seem surprised. Do you not know that the time between generations is less than 6 months? Do you not understand anything about the shelf life of a computer?
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So far as I see the TP and TP2 are very similar:
Pluses Touch Pro:
+Dpad
-VGA Resolution
- VZW memory limited
Touch Pro 2:
+WVGA Screen
+Better Speakerphone (?)
+Zoom Slider (?)
-No Dpad
+Tilt Keyboard
Sooo...other than these, are all the changes software which we will see anyway?
PS - I just picked up Touch Pro today because I really do like the Dpad...
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The larger screen did it for me.
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The larger screen did it for me.
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Funny, just a few short years ago, everyone wanted smaller phones. Now Bigger is better.
Just the opposite for laptops. Look at the massive sales of Netbooks over Laptops. Smaller is definitely "in" now there.
Not impressed
After i was done drooling over the new look of the the touch pro 2, i read the specs sheet and my burning desire to have it was put out. It does look really nice but i think that HTC could have done SOOO much better with it. The first thing i didnt understand was why they downgraded the camera. The kept it the same resolution but removed the flash!. I dont see why they couldnt up the tp2's camera to 5mp considering the fact the the diamond 2 and HD have5mp shooters. I know that the camera isnt evewrything in a phone but when a phone costs nearly 1000 unlocked, it should at least be passable. ANother thing was the lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack. The HD, which has been out for a while, is practically the same phone (-the keyboard) and has one. Hasnt HTC learned from the many letters that users want a standard headphone jack? I myself hate dealing with connectors. I also dont like how HTC only modified some of the phone programs. The file explorer is still as finger hating as ever and the only thing that saved me on my tp was the d-pad. HTC shouldve done something because when paying that much 4 a phone, one does not want to shell out another $30 for a finger friendly file explorer. Well that was my rant. Tp2 looks nice but isnt much better then the tp1 (besides screen size and tilt).
yea when i first seen the release of these two devices i was real pumped for them to actually come out. But.... after reading the specs on the TP2 the only major changes were the screen and tilt function. It still has same processor and memory so i can't see it be lightning fast without rom custimization. So for now I'm just going to stick with the fuze or maybe wait for att to release the diamond 2.
Personally the Nexus's hardware and speed make me feel the hero outdated.
What would you guys think about switching to Nexus from Hero?
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I don't know - should you?
Only you can answer that question! When I bought my Hero, it was the best Android phone on the market - nearly 6 months down the line there are more powerful alternatives (e.g. Milestone, Nexus One etc) and that is hardly surprising.
Personally, I'm going to wait and see how 2.1 pans out for the Hero before jumping ship to something else, but I do expect to be running something different in 6 months time at the outside.
Regards,
Dave
im not, im going to wait for htc to bring out there next android, i feel as if the nexus hasnt quite been made as good as it could be and htc is holding out slightly, feel its worth waiting for there next one. Also i love my hero its quick enough for me and im sure nexus will be a pain to root for a while.
it's already rooted. and cyanogen will get one - which means i will ditch my hero and hope to get enough money out of it to make the hit in my budget bearable.
edit: the most compelling reason aside from speed is that HTC is PITA when it comes to releasing the GPL parts.
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edit: the most compelling reason aside from speed is that HTC is PITA when it comes to releasing the GPL parts.
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The Nexus One *is* an HTC phone!
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Dave
I think he means that is is a google experience phone rather than the Hero is not, ie no sense and stock android. Personally I would wait to see how the HTC Bravo/ Passion is. (its basically the same as the nexus one just with sense and htc stuff)
how long did the magic guys wait for kernel sources? i was under the impression that the google experience phones always have a working msm kernel? is this a wrong assumption?
Guys, after doing some searching I also like the Milestone because of its design.
What do you personally think about the design of the Milestone and nexus? I think Milestone will win because the Nexus looks like plastic (the same as the hero's)
i agree milestone or droid or w/e is a slick looking phone! but the ui isnt for me...
also i love sense, and the look of nexus isnt for me eitherr..
i do know that my next phone will prob be htc sense ontop of android 3.0 on a slick looking phone with a 1 ghz processorr! - - cant waiit! haha
so id say if you have to ask, dont bother because soon enough you wont even have to ask yourself, it will be like OMG i neeed that phone! aha
I am selling my iPhone right now to buy a hero locally for $250. Im jumping on the deal, because I love the phone, android and everything.
The only thing I don't like is the fact that I wont be able to use my 3G with AT&T.
Is EDGE going to be painfully slow on the Hero?
Should I not buy the 100, and try to buy a 300?
Because there's no way in hell I'm going to get one for this price!
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I am selling my iPhone right now to buy a hero locally for $250. Im jumping on the deal, because I love the phone, android and everything.
The only thing I don't like is the fact that I wont be able to use my 3G with AT&T.
Is EDGE going to be painfully slow on the Hero?
Should I not buy the 100, and try to buy a 300?
Because there's no way in hell I'm going to get one for this price!
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Edge is painfully slow compared to 3g once you have experienced it.
I got the phone today. I've been using EDGE, and AT&T isn't that bad at all. Things seem fine. I'm sure 3G would be faster, but for now I don't mind at all.
let us know.. what u think between..
the phones
and the data speeds.
BTW: welcome to android
I'm going to buy a new mobile phone...
I had in mind HTC Hero and Motorola Milestone...
For now I use E71, but I'm looking to change OS (from Symbian to Android)
But, I can't make up my mind...
HTC Hero would be cheaper (Moto Milestone would cost more)
But, realy, I need your help, to tell me witch phone is better...
witch would you recomend?
hero is an awesome phone. i have been using it for last 5 months. but the problem is that developers are abandoning hero for nexus one. many modders have already bought nexus one and have stopped working on hero anymore and its quite logicla that why they will develop roms for an older phone while they have a pone with 1 ghz processor. as said developement of hero roms, themes, apps have become pretty slow for last 1-1.5 months and it will become worse. so right now buying hero isnt a very good idea in my honest opinion. better buy nexus one which is all interested in. cheers
Hero is an excellent phone. However, I'd personally go for the Nexus One right now.
I'll be developing for the Hero until this time next year, when my contract runs out
Update on my Hero.
I enjoy this phone much much more than my iPhone. Multitasking, customization, everything I wished I could do on my iPhone I can now do with my Hero.
The EDGE speed sometimes gets to me, such as when downloading applications. 3G is definitely faster, but the difference isn't so much that I regret my decision.
As for people updating and developing new Hero roms, I don't see why every dev would switch to the Nexus one. Yes, it's better, but I'm sure they understand that not everyone has a Nexus one. It would make no sense to just develop Nexus roms.\
I love everything about the Hero. I have the European version, so I have the chin, which I really like. I like having physical buttons on the outside too!
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As for people updating and developing new Hero roms, I don't see why every dev would switch to the Nexus one. Yes, it's better, but I'm sure they understand that not everyone has a Nexus one. It would make no sense to just develop Nexus roms.
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The vast majority of developers will likely only develop for phones they currently have/use. If a Hero developer buys a Nexus, there is a strong possibility that they would abandon support for the Hero, because they have little incentive to do so.
There are exceptions of course - Paul @ MoDaCo still supports the Hero even though he has a Nexus, but the speed of his releases has definitely slowed. However, this may be due to the fact that there is little new material out there to work with.
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Dave
THX.
but, is it better to buy Milstone or Hero now??
If I were you, I'd buy neither - I'd get a HTC Desire when it is released in the next couple of months.
Regards,
Dave
So... It looks as though Hero development may end with Gingerbread (2.3). Honeycomb (3.0) looks very tablet orientated and some devs are already stating it may be hard to port it.
My question is, after the resilient little Hero, what would be the next best handset to move to? A lot of people have mentioned the Desire HD or the Desire Z, but I'd like to hear from you guys, what do you think?
Update: I prefer a HTC handset myself, but which would be a good one to move to for the next set of decent ROMs??
I also believe, that after getting fully operational 2.3 with 2.6.35 kernel it will be pretty much it
Contracts are ending (I have one more year to go), developers are moving to other projects.
I hope that we will have one day "[GPL][2.3][2.6.35]Final Rom for hero".
After hero? Well, perhaps some crazy samsung device (although their quality isn't as good as HTC). I'm sure I'll stick with android, one of the best choices ever made
cheers!
I'll keep my Hero until a Tegra 2 device is realeased
I'm going to hang on to my hero for as long as possible... But I'm starting to think the Nexus S might be the next decent handset to move to, no-ones started developing ROMs yet though... Although I did notice Cyanogen had created a thread in his forum for it
I think 2.3 is maximum for Hero. Honeycomb is likely their requirements opportunities Hero.
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I'm going to hang on to my hero for as long as possible... But I'm starting to think the Nexus S might be the next decent handset to move to, no-ones started developing ROMs yet though... Although I did notice Cyanogen had created a thread in his forum for it
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I take that back!!! Nexus S is a Samsung handset, and got a fairly "meh" review on The Register.
It's a personal issue; I just don't like Samsung phones!!
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I'll keep my Hero until a Tegra 2 device is realeased
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I have to admit, this looks like the root (sorry!) I'm most likely to take.
The Nexus S seems to be a decent choice
But after putting froyo on my hero for the first time and seeing how fast it became, I think I can wait for the next reference phone
Hopefully, the next one will have a full RGB AMOLED instead of the Pentile PoS on the current Nexus S
On my next phone I'm looking for:
Tegra 2 or similar, perhaps dual core hummingbird with dedicated gpu
300+ dpi RGB AMOLED screen
Proper capacitative multitouch
Hard buttons
NO FINGERPRINT MAGNET, minimal gloss&plastic, good materials
In any case, would Honeycomb be for tablets? I assumed that honeycomb won't come to phones
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I'll keep my Hero until a Tegra 2 device is realeased
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yep, same hear, dual core is the way forward.
I plan to run the hero, cancel my TMO contract and get a giffgaff PAYG sim until a decent Tegra2 (preferrably HTC!) comes to the market.
not sure if i'd go back on contract or stick with giffgaff...i'll see how they perform, then buy the handset sim free (ouch?!?)
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In any case, would Honeycomb be for tablets? I assumed that honeycomb won't come to phones
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personally, i think there will be a version of Honeycomb for phones, when the dual core handsets become more readily available. maybe a 'cut down' version.
i have Hero for like 8 months now. Pretty good phone, but still a little bit slow, only compared to other smartphones (but as a phone, it is great).
But yesterday i bought SGS.
for my girlfriend. i hate world
Sorry, what's an SGS?
Uopdate: OH! Samsung Galaxy S?
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it depends on your needs i think. if you're flashjunky like me our hero will end soon i think because the processors won't be enough soon.
and also be careful about screen, only desire (not z nor hd) has amoled screen. so for better screen sharpness, you may get desire for now. and also it gets great scores
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So... It looks as though Hero development may end with Gingerbread (2.3). Honeycomb (3.0) looks very tablet orientated and some devs are already stating it may be hard to port it.
My question is, after the resilient little Hero, what would be the next best handset to move to? A lot of people have mentioned the Desire HD or the Desire Z, but I'd like to hear from you guys, what do you think?
Update: I prefer a HTC handset myself, but which would be a good one to move to for the next set of decent ROMs??
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I have to smile. Fertile has a year left on his contrast, and knowing him he'll find plAces to take it.
hush...
When i change my Hero, i will to buy a HTC Desire.
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good point.
What would you replace your hero with ??????
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good point.
What would you replace your hero with ??????
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It's looking like a HTC Desire at the moment. I was told to avoid the Desire and go for a Desire HD or Desire Z. Not sure why though, the Desire is the only one of the three with an AMOLED display...
I've had the Hero for just over a year now, and honestly, jailbreaking it has given it a new lease of life. That said though, it's definitely not gonna get 3.0 by the looks of things, and I'd rather not get left behind in terms of software updates. I will likely get an HTC or a Samsung; both companies make good hardware that's pretty powerful. I have considered buying a Nexus S outright, but it's kinda beyond my budget right now...
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I've had the Hero for just over a year now, and honestly, jailbreaking it has given it a new lease of life. That said though, it's definitely not gonna get 3.0 by the looks of things, and I'd rather not get left behind in terms of software updates. I will likely get an HTC or a Samsung; both companies make good hardware that's pretty powerful. I have considered buying a Nexus S outright, but it's kinda beyond my budget right now...
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Completely agree with you. I bought a Hero when my iPhone went t*ts up.
But my concern was that the newer versions of Android are going to require faster hardware and there will come a point where the Hero just won't be able to cut it anymore. So what's the next best handset to go up to? At the moment a HTC Desire
Well, it's looking like either Nexus S, or Desire for me =P
I know it is 90%impossible to port Sense 3.0 for SII, but Sense 3.5 is designed to meet requirements of previous HTC phones, so wouldn't it be easier to port?
I just hate TW4.0 but also love the hardware of SII and it would be great if I could have best launcher and best phone.
Zero interest in this myself,coming from a HD2 when i had a sense ROM more often than not there was always lag,only non sense based ROM's had no lag so i cant imagine this would be any different having sense on the GS2,at least with Touchwiz there is zero lag and it's fast!
SII is much more powerfull than HD2. TW4.0 is smooth but I don't like interface that want to be iOS but is not. I love sense widgets and all kind of eyecandy staff from HTC, and I would like to see it on my SII.
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SII is much more powerfull than HD2. TW4.0 is smooth but I don't like interface that want to be iOS but is not. I love sense widgets and all kind of eyecandy staff from HTC, and I would like to see it on my SII.
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Totally agreed. my friend keep showing off his HTC Sense. make me jealous.
"Devs" are currently trying to port it, even though they haven't gotten far. Hopefully DG will be able to help them
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"Devs" are currently trying to port it, even though they haven't gotten far. Hopefully DG will be able to help them
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I hope so. It would be awesome to see my SII with Sense.
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I really wish they would step up their game. It feels like they are a bunch of unorganised people (esp. the beta testers). The repetitive posting of rules doesn't help get interest in the project either..
why not just try GoLauncher or Launcher Pro...many widgets and themes for both launchers especially GoLauncher... i would like to see sense as well but from what i have been reading thats a dead case not gonna happen..But you never know if a serious dev goes in like DG then hopefully it might work
I think devs should rather focus on the now very soon here Android 4.0. Hopefully the Nexus Prime is a SGS2 with different software, and Google should open source it. From my experience with Sense, it's 80% eye candy. On the HD2 is was much slower than CM7 and brought little additional functionality for the extra lag. Sure the Galaxy S2 is much more powerful, but it doesn't eliminate the problems of Sense. The lag may go away, but the higher battery drain will sure be noticeable. Just try and use a launcher for the widgets, there are lots on the market.
I have a Desire HD and I want get something new, and I don't know if I should buy a new HTC flagship device or the SGS II. I run a Sense 3.5 ROM and ... It is so so function rich. I love the panorama mode in the camera, made some very nice pic already. I love those 3D widgets. But there is the screen of the SGS II... and the battery life.
If it would be possible to run Sense 3.5 on SGS II, I would buy it without a question. HTC is far ahead of any other android device manufacturer in software, and a lil bit behind Samsung in hardware performance.
... and you can't compare a SGS II to a HD2, they're not the same weight
Define what do you mean by good software software? Now as a computer science student a good software has the following features: usability, dependability, efficiency and maintainability, and some other minor but important features.
Now for sense, dependability? Heck no, seeing as I keep on reading these security issues related to their roms where user private information gets leaked to marketing websites. Efficiency? From my point of view, having half of your resources used on just the interface is simply a waste and bad coding. Usability, they sure do pass with that as they have designed a brilliant and intuitive GUI. Maintainability? Well I'd say they're doing a good job in the sense that they are keeping up with the times but I can't really make a sure judgment.
Now for TW. Dependability? I haven't heard or remember any security issue relating to TW except for the Pin code lockscreen workaround/bug for At&t's SGS2. Efficiency? Well considering only a near 1/3 of my resources are taken up, then yes? Usability, as you said it is similar to iOS UI, and iOS UI is pretty damn simple and intuitive itself, so TW is already passing. Maintainability? It is the same with HTC, I am not competent enough to make a sure judgment.
All in all i am simply countering your statement of HTC making software miles ahead of the other manufacturers, which simply isn't true. Note this done not only apply for Samsung, this applies for Nokia/Meego, Apple, Microsoft, etc.
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If it would be possible to run Sense 3.5 on SGS II, I would buy it without a question. HTC is far ahead of any other android device manufacturer in software, and a lil bit behind Samsung in hardware performance.
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If by 'far ahead' you mean 'Fire out phones as if there is no tomorrow and stop supporting handsets after 6months' then yeah...I agree...
I used to have the HTC Hero. My mate had the HTC Desire, Another mate currently has the HTC HD.
The hero stopped getting updates after 6 months (it was stuck on android 1.5 for 5months...thats right, 1.5....).
My mate with the Desire stopped getting updates after around the same time.
HTC spend far too much time splooging out phones every few months and 0.5% percent of their time offering support.
It took 3weeks for me to get a reply from them via email asking if they planned on releasing 2.1 update for my Hero. And even then they didnt answer it, just sent me a generic copy and paste.
The batteries seem to become fried with HTCs really quickly also. When I first got my phone it would last 3 days, after 12 months it lasted a day and a half (after having returned it to a clean slate again, just like when I first got it).
Mates desire lost a day of use time after 9months.
and the HTC HD is getting on a bit also...(mind you, he is running all stock not rooted).
Obviously I dont know how my SGS2 battery will hold up, but at the moment I get a day and a half with all settings on/auto (wifi, 3g, autosync etc), I could stretch it to 2 easy, not bad for a dualcore 1.2ghz compared to my 518mhz hero...
Samsung make a higher capacity battery though, so at least they seem pro-active compared to HTC (when my battery deteriorates I can can get a oem replacement upgrade, HTC Id be stuck with a oem stock replacement which would be crap again after 8-12 months)
That's the reason I have swapped to Samsung.
Interfaces can be changed easily enough (home replacements, rom swaps), hardware and customer service your stuck with.
Agree with the security problems with sense though. and the lag...oh the lag...although i was only running at 518mhz...
I dont see the point in dragging sense over the SGS2 other than to be like "wooo look what we've done!", But I know some people want it so whatever lol.
Rant over.
Hurry up Devs!
1xinfusion said:
I really wish they would step up their game. It feels like they are a bunch of unorganised people (esp. the beta testers). The repetitive posting of rules doesn't help get interest in the project either..
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You're totally right! These people, the Devs, who are doing this for fun (not money) should totally step up their game! I mean, why shouldn't we get upset at normal people with normal lives taking the time out of their busy days to build a product/software that we otherwise would NEVER get to try?
I totally agree with your statement! Come on Devs, why don't you please "step up your game" so we can ***** some more when we finally do get it and expect it to be the bee's knees . . . .
(Lots of sarcasm in there if you didn't catch that)
freemini said:
I think devs should rather focus on the now very soon here Android 4.0. Hopefully the Nexus Prime is a SGS2 with different software, and Google should open source it. From my experience with Sense, it's 80% eye candy. On the HD2 is was much slower than CM7 and brought little additional functionality for the extra lag. Sure the Galaxy S2 is much more powerful, but it doesn't eliminate the problems of Sense. The lag may go away, but the higher battery drain will sure be noticeable. Just try and use a launcher for the widgets, there are lots on the market.
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i was running a virtuous sense rom on my G2 and didn't experience any lag.
sense on SGII would be amazing.
Seems to me that for every non-HTC user that wants HTC Sense on their phone, there's an HTC user that wants HTC Sense off their phone...
Coedy said:
If by 'far ahead' you mean 'Fire out phones as if there is no tomorrow and stop supporting handsets after 6months' then yeah...I agree...
I used to have the HTC Hero. My mate had the HTC Desire, Another mate currently has the HTC HD.
The hero stopped getting updates after 6 months (it was stuck on android 1.5 for 5months...thats right, 1.5....).
My mate with the Desire stopped getting updates after around the same time.
HTC spend far too much time splooging out phones every few months and 0.5% percent of their time offering support.
It took 3weeks for me to get a reply from them via email asking if they planned on releasing 2.1 update for my Hero. And even then they didnt answer it, just sent me a generic copy and paste.
The batteries seem to become fried with HTCs really quickly also. When I first got my phone it would last 3 days, after 12 months it lasted a day and a half (after having returned it to a clean slate again, just like when I first got it).
Mates desire lost a day of use time after 9months.
and the HTC HD is getting on a bit also...(mind you, he is running all stock not rooted).
Obviously I dont know how my SGS2 battery will hold up, but at the moment I get a day and a half with all settings on/auto (wifi, 3g, autosync etc), I could stretch it to 2 easy, not bad for a dualcore 1.2ghz compared to my 518mhz hero...
Samsung make a higher capacity battery though, so at least they seem pro-active compared to HTC (when my battery deteriorates I can can get a oem replacement upgrade, HTC Id be stuck with a oem stock replacement which would be crap again after 8-12 months)
That's the reason I have swapped to Samsung.
Interfaces can be changed easily enough (home replacements, rom swaps), hardware and customer service your stuck with.
Agree with the security problems with sense though. and the lag...oh the lag...although i was only running at 518mhz...
I dont see the point in dragging sense over the SGS2 other than to be like "wooo look what we've done!", But I know some people want it so whatever lol.
Rant over.
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Hi all!
first of all, how could you compare a Hero to SGS2??
I had one for a year and was very happy with it! even if HTC didn't push the update to 2.1 very quickly I had it 3 month before with the XDA dev !!! and was working like a charm!, no lag, no massive battery drain...
secondly : "HTC spend far too much time splooging out phones every few months and 0.5% percent of their time offering support." and what about Samsung???
their phones looks like Iphones!!! the plastics are craps !!! and the support is no very good to (I have 3 friends that had some problems with their Galaxy and had to wait 3 weeks before getting it back!)
each time i solicited them i get an answer in less than 2 days!
I'm on a DHD since a year now, with the runny ROM from RCteam, without this security crap, working like a charm! no lag, no battery drain, a full sense experience!
I hope for you guys to get it on your SGS2
kosa911 said:
I know it is 90%impossible to port Sense 3.0 for SII, but Sense 3.5 is designed to meet requirements of previous HTC phones, so wouldn't it be easier to port?
I just hate TW4.0 but also love the hardware of SII and it would be great if I could have best launcher and best phone.
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+1 Urgently agree
i would like to try a sense rom on my sgs2 too. just to get the extra dropbox space XD. anyway to do it without sense 3.5?
I have hd2 with 3.5 sense and I liked. I would like to see on sgs2. My be in one day a dev will do this.