Currently I have a Storm that has a defective screen. Verizon has sent me the trifecta of consecutive defective phones. They now asked me to find another phone. I was told any phone but the Blackberry Tour. Prior to the Storm I had a 6800 with VZW. However, after multiple issues I had to give it up.
Things I miss now on the Storm is App selection, physical keyboard and WIFI at Times. I guess most important is customization. I flashed many roms on my 6800 to open the GPS, speed it up and allow for tethering. Here are my questions I have and feel free to offer your thoughts.
1. Is the Touch Pro just as easy to flash?
2. Does the TP gain functionality like open GPS when flash?
3. Does flashing allow for undetectable tethering?(I have a itouch that I want to use with it via wmwifirouter.
4. How is battery life?
5. How good is the quality of the phone?
6. Your thoughts?
Thanks for the input.
I don't hate verizion... they just suck.
If I were you I wouldn't get the touch pro through verizion. They slowed down the processor, took away some of the memory, took away the ability for 3rd party GPS*, took away youtube and all streaming media capability and 3 rows of the keyboard. So even if you flashed the bejesus out of it, it would still have three strikes against it in my book. That and the fact that you pay the same price as the one at sprint and you don't get the memory card, headset, and if memory serves the screen protecters. Verizions touch pro is at approx. 70% memory usage just because it has the touch flow interface on, while sprints remain at about 32% under the same conditions.
*I think there was some lawsuit about the GPS bit, but i don't remember the outcome of that.
Sorry that i can't answer any of your other questions but i felt that you needed to know. So... Yeah, don't get the touch pro through verizion.
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If I were you I wouldn't get the touch pro through verizion. They slowed down the processor, took away some of the memory, took away the ability for 3rd party GPS*, took away youtube and all streaming media capability and 3 rows of the keyboard. So even if you flashed the bejesus out of it, it would still have three strikes against it in my book. That and the fact that you pay the same price as the one at sprint and you don't get the memory card, headset, and if memory serves the screen protecters. Verizions touch pro is at approx. 70% memory usage just because it has the touch flow interface on, while sprints remain at about 32% under the same conditions.
*I think there was some lawsuit about the GPS bit, but i don't remember the outcome of that.
Sorry that i can't answer any of your other questions but i felt that you needed to know. So... Yeah, don't get the touch pro through verizion.
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Exactly. If you're gung-ho (or on contract) about VZW, I'd wait on their version of the TP2. I believe it's a world phone, which the original TP is not, and not only is it uncrippled I believe, it also offers a 3.5mm headphone jack which other versions may still be using the extUSB connection only.
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Currently I have a Storm that has a defective screen. Verizon has sent me the trifecta of consecutive defective phones. They now asked me to find another phone. I was told any phone but the Blackberry Tour. Prior to the Storm I had a 6800 with VZW. However, after multiple issues I had to give it up.
Things I miss now on the Storm is App selection, physical keyboard and WIFI at Times. I guess most important is customization. I flashed many roms on my 6800 to open the GPS, speed it up and allow for tethering. Here are my questions I have and feel free to offer your thoughts.
1. Is the Touch Pro just as easy to flash?
2. Does the TP gain functionality like open GPS when flash?
3. Does flashing allow for undetectable tethering?(I have a itouch that I want to use with it via wmwifirouter.
4. How is battery life?
5. How good is the quality of the phone?
6. Your thoughts?
Thanks for the input.
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I will answer your questions one by one...
1. Is the Touch Pro just as easy to flash?
Ans: I do not know about the 6800, but the process is rather simple.
2. Does the TP gain functionality like open GPS when flash?
Ans: I do not see why it shouldn't. If the GPS is there and it only has a software lock, then erasing all of the software should take care of the problem.
3. Does flashing allow for undetectable tethering?(I have a itouch that I want to use with it via wmwifirouter.
Ans: They will always see the data usage on your plan. So, if they see large amounts of data being used by your account, they might end up assuming that you are tethering. Other than that, I don't think they can detect it (I could be dead wrong though).
4. How is battery life?
Ans: If it is anything like Sprint's TP, it sucks badly. Having said that, different roms use resources in different ways (normally far more efficiently than stock roms), so depending on the rom that you decide to flash, it is bound to get better.
5. How good is the quality of the phone?
Ans: It really depends on the network. The In-Call volume can be (and should be) tweaked by a small fix called "Audio Boost". If you do not use this, I can guarantee you that you will not be able to hear the person on the other side. Call quality in general is not too bad though...
6. Your thoughts?
Ans: I have not seen it in Verizon TP, but the Sprint TP develops something called "Newton Rings" on the screen. Basically, this is a rainbow looking rectangle in the middle of your screen (think of an oil slick). This is an issue that can render the touchscreen useless. This happens simply because the phone gets so damned hot when you use it for anything (GPS, Internet, calls, etc) that the screen gets warped and starts coming out of the phone. Your provider (and even HTC) will say that this happens due to applying too much pressure on the screen, which is BS. If you look this up in PPCGeeks you will see a rather long thread about this same exact issue.
All in all, I would not go for it. You could do what level5music is suggesting and wait for the TP2. Who knows? It could be better or just as ****ty
Hope this helps...
I had the touch pro and switched to the storm...then i switched back to the touch pro. Trust me, the touch pro is worlds better. You will come to hate the blackberry os, as i have. I thought windows mobile was bad...then I flashed to wm 6.5 yesterday after never doing it before. Its way easier to flash with xp in my opinion as I could not get it to work on vista, it always said it disconnected, but maybe its just my machine. But yes, you should get the storm, you wont get push email, but you get a KEYBOARD!
i love windows mobile but i wouldnt trade a storm for a verizon touch pro. it blows period. verizon took a great device and criples it to no better than a vga mogul, crippled cpu (note, the touch pro has enough perfomance issues already so this is worse) no g-sensor, funky keyboard with a misplaced "m" letter key, half the ram and crippled gps. i you want a touch pro, id get a sprint one and flash to verizon, otherwise the bb storm is the better choice imo
wait for the pro 2
Verizon has gimped the touch pro as far as RAM goes. (half of what other providers sell)
The problem with custom roms is that most of them will be set for pagepool designed for more ram.
There has been a new ROM released by verizon that unlocks the built in GPS. This is a good sign. I know people here are saying wait for a touch pro 2, but since verizon wouldn't allow you to get a tour i doubt they will allow a TP2.
I used a sprint version until recently and i got my palm pre to work on verizon
I've used a curve before too. I always miss my TP, even with my palm pre (not nearly enough apps yet)
If you have no choice and need a new device, verizons current offerings are weak, Id go with the TP.
The verizon keyboard is also messed up... the put the "up" key in between n and m keys.
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They slowed down the processor, took away some of the memory, took away the ability for 3rd party GPS*, took away youtube and all streaming media capability and 3 rows of the keyboard.
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Wrong, how can you confuse 2 columns for 3 rows?
my bad.
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Wrong, how can you confuse 2 columns for 3 rows?
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i'm sorry that two words out of my entire rant were wrong. my apoligies.
Save yourself the headache - i have a TP and hate it.
Been using the TP now for about 3 months. I absolutely hate this phone. There were all kinds of bugs in the stock rom, and I still haven't been able to find a ROM where everything just works. The phone is slow, buggy, and the screen really sucks. IMO.
I am currently debating the switch to Tmobile to get an android handset or the iPhone. I have always carried WinMo phones, but I just can't take the grief this one is giving me.
It looks like I am not the only one that has given the same advice. Avoid the TP at all costs unless you can get one for free.
Verizon sucks...but still a great phone.
To be honest HTC & Microsoft are the way of the future. I have a Touch Pro and my wife has a Touch Pro. We both love them sure it has its issues but what phone doesn't?? Before we got the Touch Pro, we both had Moguls and loved those and can't wait to upgrade to the Touch Pro2. I would try to wait for the Touch Pro2 if I were you and I would definitly run and hide from any Blackberry, Palm or Apple phone.
not many people have a problem with the touch pro itself, but the you are missing out on so much if you get the verizion version.
I agree with the others.
I have the TP for Sprint (using JD's latest beta ROM) and love it!!! With saying that..... there are a few things that need to be improved..... with the battery being the main one.
All in all the device is really easy to flash and to maintain, and so far it has served me well........ but my next phone will be an Android phone....... as soon as Sprint gets Android....
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My brand new mogul is having issues and Sprint is replacing. However they told me they couldn't ship me a PPC 6800 for some reason but they would upgrade me to PPC 6900 for free. I thought sweet, right? Then looked it up I realized it was the touch. My question is, is this really an upgrade? Should I be upset? The touch looks cool but no keyboard....
Should I try and complain?
Also, I unlocked my phone to use the new roms. Should I relock it or shouldn't it really matter. I will just flash back to the sprint rom.
Thanks
I wouldn't accept a Touch as an "upgrade" to the Mogul. Do you have any Sprint stores around you (the Authorized resellers, not just the ones that sell Sprint stuff)? If so, take your phone in to them and see if they can swap for you. I know from experience that pretty much every store I go into gives me a slightly different story, so chances are the store would tell you something different than Sprint Customer Support on the phone.
Definitely put a stock rom back on. Relocking would probably be a good idea too, but not as big an issue.
the touch is deffinetly not an upgrade to the mogul, other than the 128mb of ram, however i'd rather have the wifi and keyboard on the mogul, than 128mb of ram and no wifi/keyboard on the touch
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the touch is deffinetly not an upgrade to the mogul, other than the 128mb of ram, however i'd rather have the wifi and keyboard on the mogul, than 128mb of ram and no wifi/keyboard on the touch
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im getting a touch im sick of my huge titan i dont need a keyborad or wifi i like the touch and the way it looks and the ram
The more I read about it the better it looks. If I don't like it I will complain and see what happens. I really don't care about wifi cause how often do you really use it. I do care about the GPS and it should be unlocked shortly with the next update. I really like the RAM though. My mogul always ran low on memory. But we will see. I should have it in the morning.........
I would say it's a case of personal preference, but I certainly wouldn't call it an upgrade...even with the smaller amount of RAM, I personally would take the Mogul over the Touch any day.
And DEFINITELY flash the stock ROM back on to it!
I'm currently using Mogul but thinking about switching to the Touch, should I? your comments please...
I used the Touch for a few weeks and felt so lost without the keyboard. The extra ram is nice, but it is not worth the lack of a real keyboard, no wi-fi, and the screen is kind of annoying to look at. I ended up trading the Touch for another Mogul and I haven't looked back since.
If you don't need keyboard or WiFi or camera flash (or GPS, for now), then touch is better (smaller, more ram, better camera). Personally, I need Wifi, I like a keyboard, and I'd miss the camera flash. I've learned to live w/ the titan's RAM.
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If you don't need keyboard or WiFi or camera flash (or GPS, for now), then touch is better (smaller, more ram, better camera). Personally, I need Wifi, I like a keyboard, and I'd miss the camera flash. I've learned to live w/ the titan's RAM.
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I feel the same. But if they had a Titan with 128 mb, I would snatch it up. The touch is MUCH peppier.
The lack of Rev A and GPS on the touch (for VZW anyhow) will be remedied in short order, no doubt.
The camera flash... I dont know, not a big deal to me. I dont know of anyone who uses their phone as their primary camera anyhow.
Really it comes down to the keyboard. "Business users" such as myself probably need it. Everyone else can get away without having it much easier.
I run Intellisync to communicate to our email system at work. I do a lot of email from the phone. Therefore, anything without the keyboard loses a lot of functionality for me. Frankly, I think the Titan is one of the better CDMA phones with a keyboard. GSM may be a different story, but our GSM signal really sucks in our town (and it's not 3G yet either).
Thanks for the comments guys. Yet, I'm still pretty undecisive about the Touch for now. Thanks though
i carry both phones (one is personal, one is a touchpoint for alltel) and i can tell you that i love my 6800 much more than the touch. i think the community behind the 6800 is larger and has more groundbreaking work going on and i also would be lost without a keyboard. given, i have been getting better with typing on the touch, it just takes some getting used to. the speed increase is VERY noticable between the touch and the 6800. i never use wifi so that doesnt really bother me on the touch. in all actuality, if the keyboard is your point holding you back, pick up a bluetooth wireless laser keyboard for a hundred bucks. that would be the difference in price (actually it would be less than the difference for alltel) and would give you a keyboard for the touch.
but how inconvenient would it be to lug around a keyboard. *let me text somebody back and lug out my keyboard*
I have heard a lot of people comment that they now type faster with the touch than with the keyboard on the titan - as long as they install a 3rd party full screen dialer -
The extra ram and smaller size are really tempting to me and I think I am just about ready to swap to a vogue. The memory issues on the titan are really starting to annoy me.
This thread should be moved to the general titan forum.
1999TL:
I think he was referring to one of these:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193
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1999TL:
I think he was referring to one of these:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193
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that is exactly what i was thinking of. its no bigger than a cigarette box, it would easily fit in a purse or your pocket. heard mixed results about the performance, but i actually think ill be picking one up for my touch pretty soon.
I've got a touch, I'll trade anyone for a titan (telus network)
dan-htc-touch said:
I've got a touch, I'll trade anyone for a titan (telus network)
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this isnt a classified forum. in fact this thread was designed to help make the decision between the two so how about you chime in and clarify why you dont want the touch anymore and would prefer a titan. i think the readers of this thread would appreciate that.
also, and this is just to help you, the retail value on the touch is about 100 bucks short of the titan so you might want to throw in some cash value or accessories along with the touch if you want to make a trade on a forum that allows it.
One thing I really like about the titan besides kb and wifi is the real hardware buttons. I'm a tactile person, and need to feel the resistance of real keys under my fingers. Sure I could get used to a software keyboard, but it won't be as quick or as pleasurable an experience.
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One thing I really like about the titan besides kb and wifi is the real hardware buttons. I'm a tactile person, and need to feel the resistance of real keys under my fingers. Sure I could get used to a software keyboard, but it won't be as quick or as pleasurable an experience.
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Oh yes! I could no live without that. I use AE button plus and it's so convenient. the most convenient is being able to use the phone as a flastlight when it is dark.
I started out with the Titan on sprint used it for a couple days and wasn't happy with the build quality. Traded it for the touch, kept the touch for 2 weeks then ended back up with the titan.
The screen on the touch bugged me, the viewable area sucks. The battery was the biggest deal breaker though. After about 50 texts, an hour of browsing and possibly ten mins of phone calls it would be nearly dead.
Back with the titan now.
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I started out with the Titan on sprint used it for a couple days and wasn't happy with the build quality. Traded it for the touch, kept the touch for 2 weeks then ended back up with the titan.
The screen on the touch bugged me, the viewable area sucks. The battery was the biggest deal breaker though. After about 50 texts, an hour of browsing and possibly ten mins of phone calls it would be nearly dead.
Back with the titan now.
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The battery, from what you have said, would be a deal breaker for me. I don't care about the keyboard and was really thinking about the vogue for the smaller form factor. But I need at least 2 days out of the thing and from the sound of it the vogue wont cut it.
I have them both, just buy you an extra battery, and all is good, i did the same thing for my mogul, 2 batterys will get you through it.
i actually have not found a problem with my touch's battery life yet. it lasts all day for me with a constant data connection and some web browsing and phone calls. using opera 9.5, btw, its the only way to browse on the touch
Well ive finally done it ive had my mogul for almost 1year and i had an apache for like 2months (we got last ones before they got replaced with moguls at the sprint store) then we switched to the mogul my sisters are envious of the apps i have on my phone but i dont have alot. Im looking for all the must have apps for an 11 year old so just throw some in there that you really really like! Excuse my geek abbrivations xD
And yes ive searched around.
You might want to try the regular mogul forum. This forum is dedicated to upgrading the mogul's ROM.
why in the world would an 11-year-old have a cell phone at all - let alone something like a mogul?
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why in the world would an 11-year-old have a cell phone at all - let alone something like a mogul?
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Yeah, that's something that I would never want activated on a network..
A PDA? Great, letting a kid play is best for development.. Many of us here started quite young. My first comp was an Atari 400 at the age of 9. But a data capable cell phone? With the first HST modems I remember all the trouble that I got into..... To a long term investigation leading to the RCMP hauling me out of class and parents called in from their work. The advantages of being a minor but a later demonstration of CSIS' incompetence in passing me for a security check. I do miss my youth....
I had my first phone when i was in 3rd grade but it was an old direct connect that got surpassed by the i580 from nextel and in 5th grade i got samsung then i got the apache cause my dad got 5 and got them for like 200 each cause we got 5 then when he realized they went out of sale at sprint and got surpassed by the mogul he got them all switched. And the only one in my family that actually can WORK ELECTRONICS. As most ppl would say plz keep on topic.
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I had my first phone when i was in 3rd grade but it was an old direct connect that got surpassed by the i580 from nextel and in 5th grade i got samsung then i got the apache cause my dad got 5 and got them for like 200 each cause we got 5 then when he realized they went out of sale at sprint and got surpassed by the mogul he got them all switched. And the only one in my family that actually can WORK ELECTRONICS. As most ppl would say plz keep on topic.
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Lucky you. I didn't get my first cell phone until I was 17 (had to work for it -_-).
Anyways I would recommend you get a GPS anti-theft program because you never know when other kids steal your phone or if you dropped it or if you forgot it somewhere. You could always pull up the location of the phone. But watch out, your parents could also use it to keep tabs on you
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Lucky you. I didn't get my first cell phone until I was 17 (had to work for it -_-).
Anyways I would recommend you get a GPS anti-theft program because you never know when other kids steal your phone or if you dropped it or if you forgot it somewhere. You could always pull up the location of the phone. But watch out, your parents could also use it to keep tabs on you
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Any in mind?
N715DP said:
why in the world would an 11-year-old have a cell phone at all - let alone something like a mogul?
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A phone: It depends on the person and what you do. A mogul: maybe not, but then if there's a few in the family.... It's also a nice internet device with Opera and Skyfire (though I can't get the beta yet...)
But people are getting technology younger and younger. Also these 2 year contracts and timing of the year effect how old you get your phone. I was 13 when I got mine for christmas and now I'm 15 and I got the voyager, but I had it switched for an XV6800 (which ended up being cheaper). Now I can't go back to a 'dumb-phone' Though I'm still hoping for an iPhone in a couple years can't imagine what it will be like then!
So as far as apps go: I use my phone for productivity and what not and I like customizing my phone. So for me there's Total Commander and I use the HTC Home plugin. Also I like the touch-esque comm manager and dial pad.
Also if you've got the latest sprint updates you can try something like Navizon which uses the GPS to map WiFi and cell towers. It sounds like a lot, but every 10,000 points you get $15 in cash. Currently, Navizon won't let Mogul and Titan variants map cell towers because of a system bug. So earning point may take a bit longer, but with the wireless age there's so many WiFi spots. I you use it could you click the link in my sig.
Also check some stuff out at http://www.freewarepocketpc.net
Hey-
I see that everyone decided to use your thread to criticize you for having a phone instead of just answering you question. Kinda lame.
Anyway, here is what I have:
-WM 6.1 for the threaded SMS
-S2U2 for full screen picture caller ID
-SPB mobile shell with Robodad's skin- makes the phone a lot easier to use. I like flashy and simple and mobile shell does both
-Google Maps and Live Search - Great when your out and need to fins a store or something nearby and finding cheap gas (dont think this really applies to you)
-Emerstec Jbed and Opera Mini - Great web browser
-Sprint Navigation - Good turn by turn directions for your gps. It is free with alot of sprint plans
- Sprint TV - This is really cool. It is currently working on the Mogul so enjoy while you can.
-WMWifiRouter - so that I can get internet on my laptop while I am out.
-Core player with Youtube bundle - so I can watch youtube videos
-Oxios Hibernate - Run it if your phone is being SLOW
-Advance configuration and nueLED - Just to tweak certain settings to my liking.
Hope this helps man. Let us know if you have any other questions. That is the point of this forum.
ok so we all know that the htc leo has alot of cool features you can use on it and alot of its qaulity is unique. but unfortunatly it has lots of problems too. i so far has gotten 4 brand new htc hd2's and they all have bugs and problems within them like restarting by itself many times and freezes. tell me what u think?
I love the phone. But I also have very few freezes and have never had the phone reset itself.
I've never had a defective phone. I think a lot of it is things we do to them.
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I love the phone. But I also have very few freezes and have never had the phone reset itself.
I've never had a defective phone. I think a lot of it is things we do to them.
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Same here. The only time I get lockups or slow-downs are after I install certain apps.
Same here..............
Had mine since November and the only problems have been ones that Ive caused through too much tweaking.....
And a problem with T Mobiles original stock rom but that was T Mobiles fault not the HD2.......
LiL xSOULJAx said:
ok so we all know that the htc leo has alot of cool features you can use on it and alot of its qaulity is unique. but unfortunatly it has lots of problems too. i so far has gotten 4 brand new htc hd2's and they all have bugs and problems within them like restarting by itself many times and freezes. tell me what u think?
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The HD2 is a wonderful machine that gives you best performance and wonderful features.
Especially when u compares it to competitive products or the price paid.
I have HD2 , T-8585, since January and never had any freeze or self restart.
All problems I had never cased from the HD2 itself. They cased from installing soft wares which sometimes do not work properly with other soft wares. That was easily recovered with the assistance of nice guys here.
Some problems occurred from defective accessories such as croppy cheap usb-micro cable.
The HD2 is wonderful machine that can be easily converted and modified according to your needs and imagination.
Thanks for the great answers ! I think its just the T-Mobile Rom thats a complete piece of crap. Because I didnt even add anything or tweaked the first 2 phones i got and they still caused many problems within the first day no B/S. Another quick question dough, how much would it cost to buy and repair an htc hd2 LCD screen, because one of my phones screen cracked. Its not the glass outer part that broke but the inner screen.
I am agree with you all, it's a great phone fast-big screen-cool design, but....
It's worth to pay 450 euro for this phone now (AUG)?? I mean I can wait for the next generation (mabe hd3/NOV or DECEMBER) thaat will have more features like an S-AMOLED and mabe a hdmi cable, and all of that with +50 euro.
Do you know anything about new HTC phones that will be released and when, and it is worth to wait more??? Thank you!
I believe the hd2 is one of the best devices on the market. It's fast, it has wonderful features, and now it is capable of running more then one os. Even the stock winmo isn't bad if yu change the rom and don't care about downloading apps. I believe for tmo usa, the hd2 is hands down the best phone they have, other then the n1. And yes better then the samsung vibrant, which is supposed to b upgrade but doesn't even have a camera flash.my experience with samsung phones has been horrible. I don't even think froyo has been released for it. Even tho it's ported, I've been running froyo on my hd2 since late july. As for up coming phones, google htc vision aka g1 blaze. 1GHz processor, medium sized screen, slide out keyboard and android. Basically the first legit replacement for the original g1. Much better then that mediocre mytouch slide 3g. The choice is yours.personally I love my hd2, but yu might just want to wait alittle while longer.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Btw the htc vision should b coming out before the years end. Also there is a rumored hd3 coming soon that is supposed to run wimo7. Decision, decisions lol best thing about the hd2, runs winmo 6.xx, runs linux, runs android, and most likely will run winmo7(I'm sure someone will figure out how to port it) what other phone can do that! Lol decisions decisions
*that was Sent from my HTC hd2 using XDA app*
i think its a Great phone, i love everything about it slim design customisation element big screen but unfortunately it does have its flaws eg battery life occasional freezing to name a few plus no further windows upgrade officially it looks like a dying breed imo but without the chefs on here this handset will be resurrected with android port coming through and presumably windows 7 the futures look good
I do love the phone alot and i do think its the best phone on the market but im just highly upset with its problems. My bad luck i guess hehe . I have another question dough.
What does the red or yellow dots on the back of the phone next to the battery on the lower left mean? I got a 3 phones with red dots but 1 with a yellos dot.
LiL xSOULJAx said:
I do love the phone alot and i do think its the best phone on the market but im just highly upset with its problems. My bad luck i guess hehe . I have another question dough.
What does the red or yellow dots on the back of the phone next to the battery on the lower left mean? I got a 3 phones with red dots but 1 with a yellos dot.
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all that is a reset button. First it was red, then on the newer batch, it was changed to yellow.
For me, its the best windows phone I have ever used. Although if I was thinking of buying a new phone at this stage of the year, I think I would wait till around Oct-Nov or at least i'll wai for the first release of W7 and see if it is worth the wait. But the HD2's built I think is almost perfect(virtual keys at the bottom would have made it perfect for me).
Well dasz really true ! Thanksz for all da help guysz .. Ima jusz try to find the best rom out there . I wuld like sum help on dat too if u dont mind hehe This site is very supportive and useful !! Big thumbs up
Coming from a google phone for the past 2 years and then going back to Windows I was amazed how easy it was to deal with the phone.
The issues are the same as the others freezing, lag, etc. I think its the stock ROM itself, but I wonder? Sometimes it acts like my old dash and when you have to close the tasks and use a program to clear up ram space, it annoys me.
I don't like the windows market place, in google certain programs are free, but in windows you have to pay to use features? F-that.
I awating till they perfect a andriod rom to be put in the HD2 with no issues.
The good points of the phone is that it syncs to my outlook with ease..
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Coming from a google phone for the past 2 years and then going back to Windows I was amazed how easy it was to deal with the phone.
The issues are the same as the others freezing, lag, etc. I think its the stock ROM itself, but I wonder? Sometimes it acts like my old dash and when you have to close the tasks and use a program to clear up ram space, it annoys me.
I don't like the windows market place, in google certain programs are free, but in windows you have to pay to use features? F-that.
I awating till they perfect a andriod rom to be put in the HD2 with no issues.
The good points of the phone is that it syncs to my outlook with ease..
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So does this mean that no matter what rom i put into the phone, it will always be lagging and freezing as it normally would?
LiL xSOULJAx said:
So does this mean that no matter what rom i put into the phone, it will always be lagging and freezing as it normally would?
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I wouldnt say that since most of the roms here seem to make it run better, but Windows mobile is crap compared to Linux.
The HD2 has the same features as my Andriod phone Google maps, You Tube, Google Browser, yet run like crap on the windows mobile phone. GPS take forever to lock on and the maps just has a differnet feel to it..Youtube runs differnet and the browser is crap
Does this phone really have a 1 ghz processor? It feels like my a phone is on 450ghz at times, again maybe window mobile requires too much?
I'm going to flash a rom on the phone since I am tired of the battery drain which is annoying
I have a Nexus One that I am in the process of selling since I like the Hd2 alot more.
The Hd2 does everything I could ever ask of a smartphone and more:
- Free turn by turn GPS directions
- Emulator gaming
- Word/Excel documents
- Bluetooth keyboard support (Android cant do this at all)
- Voice recorder
- Gorgeous 4.3' monster screen
- Tethering
I haven't had any problems with my Hd2 whatsoever. If anything Android gave me more problems than Windows Mobile. The only reason you hear about Android more is it's newer and the media want's to push it as hard as they do with Apple stuff for ratings...
I'm bored with my HD2. Because its working perfectly. I guess I need a new phone with lots of problems
I love the phone. It's design is great, the screen is amazing and the hardware is beefy. What really makes the phone though is the community and chefs here at XDA. I lose count of the amount of times I have reflashed my phone. With different ROMS, experimenting and messing around. It's a great device if you like doing that. It makes you pity the iSheep followers, really..
However, my main 2 drawbacks are this: 1) The battery life is poor.. although that is understandable with the screen and hardware it's got to supply. 2) the fact that HTC have confirmed that they will not be supporting/supplying WinMo 7 for the device. However, I hold out hope that will not be a problem for the clever guys here at XDA .
hey everyone, i've had my Captivate since it was released last year, but i really want to upgrade it. i'm a little underwhelmed by the specs of the Galaxy Nexus when compared to the SGSII (which is what i was waiting to compare before i just purchased it).
anyways, are there any nagging issues that i should know about before upgrading (like the GPS issue with the Cappy, even though mine always worked perfectly)?
thanks.
Speaking for myself, this has been an absolutely solid device from the moment I got it. Couldn't be happier...
Not a single issue I can think of.
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no major issues yet but the only thing that people have complained about is some screen issues. There have been lines that seemed to be burned into the screen when you view dark images. I have one but i rarely notice it so I'm not concerned and its not a big deal for me. otherwise, i think thats pretty much it. Any other issue that you have can be checked while at the store so you can exchange it while you are there.
No issues here, upgrading also from a week 1 captivate.
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Nope. I haven't even found any minor issues. Rock solid, all the way around.
Only problem I've had is the AP Mobile widget eating up my data even after I turned it off and set the refresh settings to none. Ended up having to root/freeze it just to stop. Samsung and AT&T were of no help. Reading a forum or two here and there shows I'm not alone - but I don't think it is extremely widespread.
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Only problem I've had is the AP Mobile widget eating up my data even after I turned it off and set the refresh settings to none. Ended up having to root/freeze it just to stop. Samsung and AT&T were of no help. Reading a forum or two here and there shows I'm not alone - but I don't think it is extremely widespread.
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I've found the AP Mobile application to be terrible on every device I've used.
Based on my recent experience, I'd have no problem believing that.
I never consider AT&T bloatware to be a "major issue" - even though it's a major deficiency in the out-of-the-box experience, as long as it's fixable, it's not major to me.
So far so good...had good battery out of box for me....running un-named...no complaints my self
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I have no major issues with mine. I'm rooted and running cognition now and it's a solid as when it was stock. This is my third android phone and the first keeper for me having been unhappy with earlier products running android.
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I never consider AT&T bloatware to be a "major issue" - even though it's a major deficiency in the out-of-the-box experience, as long as it's fixable, it's not major to me.
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If it ends up sending someone over a data limit and costing money, I'd say its a pretty big deal. At least something to keep an eye on.
As a launch-day Captivate user myself, believe me the SGSII is a night and day difference. Especially in the speed and battery departments. Even running stock is a much smoother experience than many of the custom ROMs I had flashed on my Cap.
The build quality seems to be very good, even for an initial run.
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No issues here, upgrading also from a week 1 captivate.
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Same here, this thing is great. Fast, smooth and great battery. I've ran Cognition and now UnNamed, both are smooth.
I never had any problems with my Captivate other than battery. Unlocked it for my wife to use on T-Mobile and she is getting 24-30 hours on a charge w/3-4hrs display time. The only difference in the set up is the amount of emails and texts when I used it was more than she uses it.
By and large I have had few problems. This is the phone that the Captivate should have been (good GPS and compass and LED flash and front facing camera).
Once I had a problem with GPS acquiring a lock, even with very adequate SNRs as shown by GPS Test (Chartcoss), but it immediately reverted back to great after a reboot.
Occasionally the Facebook app will lag is some aspects, but I can't tell if it is the app or the network.
To OP,
Yes, there are some issues that I have with this phone. Some big, some small but all in all - IMHO not deal breakers...
I'm a 3+ yrs iphone 3G user sitting on the fence between the iphone 4S (pre-release) and SG2. When AT&T announced official release of the SG2 on Oct 2., I made a beeline to two local AT&T stores and both sold out, but they did have the unit on display and when I comared the iphone 4 (non S) vs. the SG2, I instantly fell in love with the Lighter Weight, Larger screen and super thin size of the SG2 over the iphone 4 (non S)...
The problem at hand to answer your question is here:
1. No FM radio - Originally advsertised as an available feature on AT&T website but has been removed. Available on internation i1900 but not on AT&T SGH-I777
2. Samsung DIVE - Samsung's version of lost/stolen phone support *FREE* to all Samsung mobile device yet *CRIPPLED* by AT&T...
3. No visual Voicemail - But then again this is an Android issue not Captivate to SG2 (remember I'm coming off an iphone 3G)
4. NFC missing - Confirmed by AT&T that it was disabled but *supposedly* to return at a later date via firmware update...??? Will update *NERF* the SG2 to comply with APPLE's suit about copyright infringment (this is mere SPECULATION from my part ONLY!!!!)
Makes me MAD that AT&T strips out useful and FREE tools and installs crappy BLOATWARE like AT&T NAVIGATE that I cannot remove wthout ROOTING the phone... Sorry not ready to that just yet but the promise of FREE tethering has me thinking about it...
Samsung has already had to *MOD* some Tablets & phones(?) overseas because one foreign court ruled against Samsung claiming that their OS too closely resembles the IOS and a firmware MOD fixed the SCROLLING method to further distinguish Touchwiz from IOS... Could Samsung/AT&T firmware update that includes NFC then also NERF the UI (if they lose in U.S. Court Case???)
Sorry for rambling on but I think I've answered your questions about my pet peeves with the unit so far I'm really REALLY like the SG2 and after 2 weeks I do NOT have buyers remorse nor do I feel an attraction to the iphone 4S...
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hey everyone, i've had my Captivate since it was released last year, but i really want to upgrade it. i'm a little underwhelmed by the specs of the Galaxy Nexus when compared to the SGSII (which is what i was waiting to compare before i just purchased it).
anyways, are there any nagging issues that i should know about before upgrading (like the GPS issue with the Cappy, even though mine always worked perfectly)?
thanks.
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To OP,
Yes, there are some issues that I have with this phone. Some big, some small but all in all - IMHO not deal breakers...
I'm a 3+ yrs iphone 3G user sitting on the fence between the iphone 4S (pre-release) and SG2. When AT&T announced official release of the SG2 on Oct 2., I made a beeline to two local AT&T stores and both sold out, but they did have the unit on display and when I comared the iphone 4 (non S) vs. the SG2, I instantly fell in love with the Lighter Weight, Larger screen and super thin size of the SG2 over the iphone 4 (non S)...
The problem at hand to answer your question is here:
1. No FM radio - Originally advsertised as an available feature on AT&T website but has been removed. Available on internation i1900 but not on AT&T SGH-I777
2. Samsung DIVE - Samsung's version of lost/stolen phone support *FREE* to all Samsung mobile device yet *CRIPPLED* by AT&T...
3. No visual Voicemail - But then again this is an Android issue not Captivate to SG2 (remember I'm coming off an iphone 3G)
4. NFC missing - Confirmed by AT&T that it was disabled but *supposedly* to return at a later date via firmware update...??? Will update *NERF* the SG2 to comply with APPLE's suit about copyright infringment (this is mere SPECULATION from my part ONLY!!!!)
Makes me MAD that AT&T strips out useful and FREE tools and installs crappy BLOATWARE like AT&T NAVIGATE that I cannot remove wthout ROOTING the phone... Sorry not ready to that just yet but the promise of FREE tethering has me thinking about it...
Samsung has already had to *MOD* some Tablets & phones(?) overseas because one foreign court ruled against Samsung claiming that their OS too closely resembles the IOS and a firmware MOD fixed the SCROLLING method to further distinguish Touchwiz from IOS... Could Samsung/AT&T firmware update that includes NFC then also NERF the UI (if they lose in U.S. Court Case???)
Sorry for rambling on but I think I've answered your questions about my pet peeves with the unit so far I'm really REALLY like the SG2 and after 2 weeks I do NOT have buyers remorse nor do I feel an attraction to the iphone 4S...
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thanks for your opinion, but i was merely asking about actual hardware/software problems, not personal opinions about the lack of included apps/features.
I think Google Voice is a million (yes literally a million) times better than the visual voicemail on the iPhone.
I did think of one issue I have had. Its minor, but was really frustrating. The stock android keyboard preinstalled seems to be off. The biggest time for me was that I would try for a c and get a space. I am not a fan of the Samsung keyboard, but Gingerbread Keyboard from the market seemed to fix it.
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Hardware/Software problems - REDUX
1. When locked with Passcode or Pattern swipe and then hitting the power button to start the phone, 7 times out of 10 you get the pattern screen, the other 3 times the unit BYPASS the security all together and you can get right in
2. Voice recognition by Voice Action or VLingo, sometimes won't pick up your voice, intermittently strays off of Listen mode (Green) and sits there numbly until you exit restart the VOX
3. Slight BLUISH tint when viewing the SUPER AMOLED screen, when viewing directly on the screen this is a non issue.
4. GPS unit not quite as accurate as my old iphone. Driving around I find the ICON moving OFF road and plowing through houses/buildings on map... This is despite the GPS's S/N ratio is over 85db and locked onto multiple satelites...
IMHO - these issues are NON dealbreakers for me and the more glaring offenders are the missing FM radio and NFC but to each his own...
Good luck...!
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thanks for your opinion, but i was merely asking about actual hardware/software problems, not personal opinions about the lack of included apps/features.
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Agreed that Google Voice is awesome and in many ways superior to Visual Voicemail, however, why couldn't Google Voice have been built in and tied directly to the phone? Why do CALLS have to be first forwarded behind the scenes to Google Voice in order to access Google Voice's Visual Voicemail...?
That's my only gripe with it, I'm using Google Voice on the phone, but I'm peeved that an extra step was needed... IMHO, but judging from some of the other threads I've been reading, I'm not exactly alone on this thought...
mmarquis said:
By and large I have had few problems. This is the phone that the Captivate should have been (good GPS and compass and LED flash and front facing camera).
Once I had a problem with GPS acquiring a lock, even with very adequate SNRs as shown by GPS Test (Chartcoss), but it immediately reverted back to great after a reboot.
Occasionally the Facebook app will lag is some aspects, but I can't tell if it is the app or the network.
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1. When locked with Passcode or Pattern swipe and then hitting the power button to start the phone, 7 times out of 10 you get the pattern screen, the other 3 times the unit BYPASS the security all together and you can get right in
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The issue here was with stock settings. If you set a pattern lock, then lock the phone. When you wake the phone, let the screen go back to black, then hit the power button. 100% of the time, if you do it that way (let the screen go off then press power again) you get the standard swipe to unlock and bypass the lock pattern.
There is an easy fix. In the lock screen settings set the timeout to immediate (default is 5 minutes) and it will 100% fix the issue.
Sent from my SGS II