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Hello all,
I Eb'd an HTC wizard (cingular 8125) running Wizard Love/NBD WM 6.
On the load screen I get:
AKU 2.3;
IPL and SPL:2.25.0001;
radio:2.25.11;
rom: 6.0.0.0.
My carrier is Tmobile.
Question 1: If my phone has this newer ROM and it takes calls on the Tmobile network it has been CID unlocked and SIM unlocked...right?
I wanna update my rom and think that I am competent enough to do so but there is alot to learn and this is not my full time gig...right.
Question 2: So, if I am correct in Q1 I should be able to flash roms right?
However when I attempt to do so the RUU gives me [error 224]. Active sync and or WMDC says its connected. (I installed the AS drivers in WMDC)
Question 3: Where do I go from here?
Question 4: The wi-fi is currently not working will a new rom potentially clear this up?
Thanks in advance for the time and advice..
grazie
hmmmm,
Well,did you updated to NBD wm6 yourself ? and how did you updated ? which method you adopted ? SoftSPL or HardSPL ?
You say its SIM unlocked as it takes calls on the Tmobile network .Did you SIM unlocked with lokiwiz03a ?
yes ! a G4 can be SIM unlocked but it can not be CID unlocked,however,it can be upgraded to wm6 rom,but with method either 'SoftSPL' or 'HardSPL'.With your present ipl/spl 2.25.0001 and you say its NBD wm6 running,then it must have been upgraded through 'SoftSPL' method,as it uses patched ipl/spl and Cid unlocks the phone temporarily,but it never permanently CID unlocks the phone.But with 'HardSPL' ,it changes the ipl/spl to a patched ipl 2.21.0001 and spl 2.21 olip.So everytime you want to upgrade,you'll have to upgrade using 'SoftSPL' method.
could you elaborate a little more about this.
Cheers!
Hey thanks for the correspondence zabardast_1, I have been getting frustrated and I have many times contemplated going for the brick or bust approach here.
So, I have done none of the updating on this rig. I rec'd it and I wanted it primarily for wifi however I can't get the wifi card/ (sdiowlan I believe) to even recognize an AP (... I posted in the networking forum but no response.) Thus my own reasoning leads me to believe I should start from scratch with a new rom unless you know of something else.
So, I am not the most savvy and thought that all of the info I had led to SIM and CID unlocked. I just read otherwise last night and in your reply. The info I have provided is accurate the IPL, SPL, radio, although I don't know which NBD release it is; just says 6.0.0.0 and release date: 2/2/07.
I am trying to get the new rom on the my device however and I would've probably already bricked it if I could get an RUU to communicate with my wiz. I always get [Error 224] when I run it and my phone is connected through active sync. I am running vista but have installed the AS drivers for WMDC. I also tried it at work the other day with XP same situ. I then tried flashing from the bootloader screen with an NBD, Wizard Love ( w/ Italian installer?), and T-mob (226102_22610105_022511). The only one that says it will update is the Tmob ROM, however I got cold feet at the update button and canceled.
Other funny stuff I have observed that may or may not be related to the problems I am having are:
Can't install cab files ie (enable rapi or Cert SPCS) and Wiz Sys Tools couldn't read my CID block and hard_SPL G4 gives me REXX error ( SPL_Version has no value).
So, any wizdom you or anybody can drop is much appreciated and needed at this point.
Whew...
Listen carefully. G4 Wizard cannot be CID-unlocked without paying money. (And yes, you are using a G4).
What you need now is to Flash your original stock carrier ROM (Or wizard love) to get your OS back. Then either use SoftSPL or install HardSPL and flash WM6 ROM.
Thanks Starkwong,
I will try installing wizard love tomorrow at work and if that don't work I will attempt a Cing ROM (will all of these work or do I need to mind my G3's and G4's for these???)
Grazie
So, It worked using Wizard Love at work and out of the bootloader window. Now I need to:
1.) Get wifi working.
2.) Get a newer ROM
I put a post up in the networking thread, I am a tool so far as these devices are concerned so be easy on me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372811
So do I get the wifi issue resolved before I reflash???
Thx again
I don't know what you mean by "wifi not working".
Maybe it is the wifi AP doesn't allow 11Mbps (802.11b) connections?
However, going to any of the WM6 ROMs should already set the registry to allow Wizard connects to G-Only APs. Just use HardSPL/SoftSPL and flash a WM6 and you will see.
OK so "wifi not working" may indeed be a general statement...
What I mean to say is that I am not able to connect to any wireless networks for internet not home (Linksys WRT 54G v5 with ddwrt firmware) or school (university wide) or my city's wifi network. It won't even detect them at least none that Ive seen since I've rec'd this phone. So, that is what I meant by the ambiguous statement.
So, being as your last post was a success I will try as you say and post the results tomorrow. Thanks again starkwong!!!
1 quick thing however, to be sure, I can now try the hard spl or soft spl method of tricking my phone to run an upgrade to WM6?
Still not able to get wifi APs????
OK although I have been successful at reinstalling the Mfg ROM and then Hard SPL'ing my wizard thanks to ya'll I still am unable to connect to a wireless network (see one even). I have the Olip on my SPL and I installed a TNT version of WM6 and I am still at work (drunk but still here). Anyway I can't see my wireless AP and I am beginning to think its a hardware issue if thats possible, i dunno the dynamics of this system maybe thats why it was for sale. In any event as usual I am willing to try what ever you guys throw at me as you're my only hope obi wan. Alright Im gonna go home for the night and try getting on to my home network.
Thanks again for all the help guys.
Is your device a original one from phone operator? I suspect your device is a China Dopod 838 with replaced casing, because the China version has the wifi hardware removed, so wifi can't be started even if an English ROM is used.
Looks to be authentic 8125
Starkwong, the Cingular logo and the 8125 model # are on the phone case where they have been when I've seen them before in pics. Therfore, I dunno I guess it looks like every other 8125 I've seen. Can I check the SN, IME or anything to be sure?
Thanks Again!!!
Starkwong,
I am getting all the options for wifi on my phone the LHS LED flashes green when I enable it and alternates blue green when BT is enabled. So, could it still be that its a dupod? I dunno but I am going home for the night... Thanks for your help. I will try connecting to my home network when I get there.
Hi everyone,my name's Larry and I just registered to the forums. Please forgive my newness but I am in a bit of a pickle here.
I have a MDA Vario II, aka Hermes 300, that I bought s/h off ebay. Works fine,no worries, but I upgraded to WM6 because i felt browsing was a little slow and the screen graphics werent as good as I expected. The upgrade was from the T-mobile site itself and all went fine. Only thing is I dont believe this phone can handle it(needs more RAM really) and after being online a while it gets really slow,like steerig a cow through treacle at times so I came to the conclusiong it was a bad move! Now I've noticed a link on here about downgrading to WM5 but is it that easy for one with no specialised tools or knowledge(tho i did build my own PC, or should I say ahem WE did)
Also a problem the phone has developed since the upgrade is it keep deleting my email settings, even tho on the 'desktop' screen it tells me i have so many unread emails in each account! So now i cant check emails from it either!
I do hope I can sort this out cos it is really frustrating having a PDA and not being able to browse properly!
Many thanks
Larry
Welcome to XDA-Developers larry. Well Firstly i would start with CID unlocking your device so that you can flash any rom you can do that by downloading hard spl from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
then once you have flashed that you can basically download and install any rom for the hermes. I have an mda vario ii and hate the t-mobile rom as it installs quite a bit of useless crap. I never use and it is also so damn ugly. if after installing a new rom you find you have internet connection problems and/or mms settings then download and run this http://rapidshare.com/files/92547562/UK_Setup.exe that will install the settings for internet and mms for all uk networks, the majority of the cooked roms on here though ,already have a network wizard to set it up for you, but better to be safe than sorry
P.S. I forgot to add if you are looking for speed and extra ram i would look for a vanilla(clean) rom, install that and then add the apps you want via cab files, you will find them scattered about all over this site
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Welcome to XDA-Developers larry. Well Firstly i would start with CID unlocking your device so that you can flash any rom you can do that by downloading hard spl from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
then once you have flashed that you can basically download and install any rom for the hermes. I have an mda vario ii and hate the t-mobile rom as it installs quite a bit of useless crap. I never use and it is also so damn ugly. if after installing a new rom you find you have internet connection problems and/or mms settings then download and run this http://rapidshare.com/files/92547562/UK_Setup.exe that will install the settings for internet and mms for all uk networks, the majority of the cooked roms on here though ,already have a network wizard to set it up for you, but better to be safe than sorry
P.S. I forgot to add if you are looking for speed and extra ram i would look for a vanilla(clean) rom, install that and then add the apps you want via cab files, you will find them scattered about all over this site
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Ah thanks for that but I have no idea what CID unlocking is(do you mean like unlocking the phone to other networks?) Also what's hard spl?? Totally in the dark about this!
Hermes300 said:
Ah thanks for that but I have no idea what CID unlocking is(do you mean like unlocking the phone to other networks?) Also what's hard spl?? Totally in the dark about this!
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all your question answered here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
I have looked thru the wiki and cannot find the advice I need.
My device has the following on it and what I would like to know is if I can actually drowngrade the device back to WM5.
The rom version is 3.60.110.4 (T-mobile UK)
The radio version is 1.50.00.00 so I assume that it is boot 0108.
The IPL is 1.04 and the SPL 2.03.
The protocol reads as follows 32.83.7020.20H
I have come across a guide that states if the radio is above 1.27.00.00 then downgrading may not be possible.
"(NOTE: If your radio version is currently HIGHER than 1.27.00.00 then it is very likely the radio bootloader is version 0108, this WILL NOT allow the radio to be downgraded to a radio containing BL 0106 and will result in a "NO GSM" error.)" -http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27
The other question I would like to ask is this - it is possible to put another verion of WM6 on with this radio version?
Thanks for any advice!
Can anyone help me here!
Do I need to SIM unlock my PDA to update the ROM to a custom ROM, for example Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.30 which I recently downloaded from here.
At the moment it is locked to T-mobile. I have also updated the SPL to 2.10 olipro and the radio is at 1.50.00.00 and the HTC boot is 0108.
Thanks guys
Larry
Hermes300 said:
Can anyone help me here!
Do I need to SIM unlock my PDA to update the ROM to a custom ROM, for example Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.30 which I recently downloaded from here.
At the moment it is locked to T-mobile. I have also updated the SPL to 2.10 olipro and the radio is at 1.50.00.00 and the HTC boot is 0108.
Thanks guys
Larry
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I think you might not have gotten help 'cause it doesn't look like you've read what people pointed for you to read. Hopefully this'll help you get over the jargon hump and make progress. Having upgraded from the Offical T-Moble rom and swapped ROMs, it's definitely worth taking the time to learn how to do.
SIM unlock & CID unlock aren't the same.
If you've had you phone with T-Mobile for at least 3 month they will let Unlock you SIM (at least they do in the US). Contact them directly, you'll need an active account & phone number with them. This is free.
CID unlocking allows flashing ROMs onto your PDA. For some reason the folks at T-mobile, etc want you to have to look at their stuff every time you use a machine you bought through them. Using a cooked rom is like reinstalling XP without having AOL on your computer, makes life much better.
(flashing = installing to a PDA's Read Only Memory)
(ROM = OS + Radio + other stuff = basically everything thats on the PDA after a hard reset)
Flashing can be a dangerous thing, you don't want to 'brick' your PDA so you install an escape hatch. Hard SPL is that escape hatch.
(Brick = peice of baked clay = your PDA if a ROM install fails and you didn't install Hard SPL first)
The Hard SPL protects you if the ROM you installs fails 'cause power went out, ROM was bad, you bumped the cable, etc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Read & Follow the directions.
Select a ROM from here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
I have the same model & just installed Custel V2.5, seems to work well so far (day 2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364617
Good Luck
Thanks gt, and we have read advice on here but a lot of seems to be conflicting plus we seem to be just going round and round. Yep, ben there, yep read that etc.
I know the diff. between SIM and CID unlock but all I want to know is is it necessary to SIM unlock the phone to update a ROM?
I wont be using another network but will be staying with T-mobile W n W.
I did it!
Well I did it. flashed the phone with Schaps WM6 4.30 WWE.
Have noticed it runs faster than the previous T-Mobile WM6 and has some really neat features-you can adjust a lot more settings on the phone than before,quite impresed! Thanks for everyones help!
Hey, i recently purchased a HTC Prophet (branded SPV M600 from orange) from a friend.
Since then i managed to get a WM6.1 rom on (shadow 2 i think)
Anyway, back when i did this, i found it very hard.
My prophet is not hardspl'd and i've having trouble changing the rom.
In my effort to change it, i 'bricked' it, however recovered it using one of those WM5 roms.
So my details:
IPL 2.20.0001
SPL 2.10.0001
GSM 02.07.20
Currently i'm running a WM5 rom, however i have managed a WM6.1 rom before, but cannot seem to do it again, whenever i get it installed it just boots to the bootloader.
When trying to HardSPL it just gives generic cannot connect errors.
I've used Prophet Tools aswell as manual guides but to no avail.
Am i doing something wrong?
And btw i'm using WinXP
Cheers, James
Hey, turns out i wasn't following instructions properly - probably due to my tiredness!
I wasn't pressing the camera button on white screen... DOH!
Problem now solved and running 'Vista Clean'
Cheers,
James
I got an iMate JASJAM from my father awhile back - a great hand-me-down if you ask me!
It's currently running Windows Mobile 5 w/ default just about everything.
HERM100
IPL-1.01
HERM100
SPL-1.11
Anyway, onto my problem.
I'm using the Hard SPL upgrade files found in Olipro's thread.
I run it and it works up until I select "Yes" on my device.
It then reboots into the bootloader and just sits there and does nothing until finally the installer throws an error 260.
Anyone else had this problem?
Is there a simple fix?
If it makes any difference, I've got a Mini-SD card in it. 512mb.
Go to the Hard SPL thread, page 116, post 1160. It tells you (and gives all apps needed) how to install using the SD card... Gets rid of those pesky sync problems.
You can use the sad card method to upgrade your os too, just drop the steps using sspl.exe....
Cheers...
wonderbreadz said:
I got an iMate JASJAM from my father awhile back - a great hand-me-down if you ask me!
It's currently running Windows Mobile 5 w/ default just about everything.
HERM100
IPL-1.01
HERM100
SPL-1.11
Anyway, onto my problem.
I'm using the Hard SPL upgrade files found in Olipro's thread.
I run it and it works up until I select "Yes" on my device.
It then reboots into the bootloader and just sits there and does nothing until finally the installer throws an error 260.
Anyone else had this problem?
Is there a simple fix?
If it makes any difference, I've got a Mini-SD card in it. 512mb.
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i got your problem on my i-mate jasjam too,
have u solve the problem yet?
i face the same problem
Well I flashed maybe 30 HTC Tytn PDA`s (I work in service) and never bricked any... I never putted cooked roms,bcs this roms are stupid.And a lot of cooked roms use much more ram and many of them have simple appcliations,which you can to install alone... So,my advice for peoples : Use official Win Mobile 6 rom from HTC ftp server.You can find links in this forum also...And yeah I dont need HARD SPL for official... never bricked.
Depends slaki85 if the Hermes has been Branded... For example, I have the Telstra rom on my Jasjam, if I tried to put the HTC official rom onto it, I'd have a brick... The carrier rom prevents me putting any other rom on it other than theirs.... And it ALWAYS has a heap of bloatware.
You also can't put wm6.5 on...
Hard SPL allows me to put other roms, cooke or official, that I can't put on without ending up with a brick.
As for the guys who can't put Hard SPL on, use the sd card method as I said before. Its easier, means there's less chance of a brick and takes 2 secs...
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Depends slaki85 if the Hermes has been Branded... For example, I have the Telstra rom on my Jasjam, if I tried to put the HTC official rom onto it, I'd have a brick... The carrier rom prevents me putting any other rom on it other than theirs.... And it ALWAYS has a heap of bloatware.
You also can't put wm6.5 on...
Hard SPL allows me to put other roms, cooke or official, that I can't put on without ending up with a brick.
As for the guys who can't put Hard SPL on, use the sd card method as I said before. Its easier, means there's less chance of a brick and takes 2 secs...
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Yeah,you are in right with 6.5 WinMo...I really tryed before Win 6.5,and expect few visual changes,he dont have anything new..With 6.5 or 6.5 + Manilla-TouchFLo,TyTN is very slow...what to say about ram memory...sometimes and 15 MB more busy...I understand that peoples always will put new rooms,I only dont understand why peoples risk...Expect if some win dont have some big changes.byw if someone want to put official HTC 6.0 rom,I tryed many times with 100% sucess in HTC TyTN and SPV M3100 (also TyTN but from postpaid Operators)..
I also agree that is HARD SPL good sometimes.I only dont understand why peoples change roms... : P especially custom roms...(few apps more and speed,ram slower...).But probablly I am subjective : )
Again, if you have a carrier rom they tend to overload it with bloatware, software and apps that use their sites. It tends to slow down the hermes and, truth be told, I've started with less than 15Mb ram using the stock rom... When you have that happen, cooked roms are a much better alternative. Also, if you use the apps cooked in it means you don't have to hunt down the cabs yourself....
Much easier....
I have a Cingular 8125 G4 (IPL 2.25.0001; SPL 2.25.0001) that was upgraded to a WM6.1 ROM a few months back. Apparently it was based on a "beta" ROM, and it recently expired, leaving it unable to function with the expired message referred elsewhere here. So I figured just to reflash to another ROM, but does not work. It stays at the old 99% and never finishes. Now it will go into the tri-color (RUU) bootloader mode, but will not boot. I assumed this isn't "CID-unlocked" then, so read through postings here. Lokiwiz and the other tools to get around this either require an active ActivSync connection to upload a CAB file or just say the ROM tool is too old. What do I do at this point? The phone does not appear to be "bricked", yet I cannot seem to load a new ROM and to "CID-unlock" it requires it to be in WM sync.
jgoodfellow said:
I have a Cingular 8125 G4 (IPL 2.25.0001; SPL 2.25.0001) that was upgraded to a WM6.1 ROM a few months back. Apparently it was based on a "beta" ROM, and it recently expired, leaving it unable to function with the expired message referred elsewhere here. So I figured just to reflash to another ROM, but does not work. It stays at the old 99% and never finishes. Now it will go into the tri-color (RUU) bootloader mode, but will not boot. I assumed this isn't "CID-unlocked" then, so read through postings here. Lokiwiz and the other tools to get around this either require an active ActivSync connection to upload a CAB file or just say the ROM tool is too old. What do I do at this point? The phone does not appear to be "bricked", yet I cannot seem to load a new ROM and to "CID-unlock" it requires it to be in WM sync.
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You need to flashed a shipped ROM, hardspl and the flash the custom rom
Shipped ROM?
Okay... after extensive searching, I got lucky and found and flashed a wizard_love ROM and have a stock WM5 image on the beast. I then ran a downloaded hard_spl-G4 that seemed to do the samething but did something with the SPL. Looks like now SPL 2.21.olip. So now find a WM6.1 ROM to flash? Can one be had without the TouchFLo junk? I just like the WM6.1 today screen. It works well on my T-Mobile SDA, but I need the more PDA aspects of the Wizard.
Try WM 6.5 by XDA2 or Cracing, there are nice CLEAN ones which work great and look great
Got everything working WM61 Wizard G4
Thanks for the pointers... I got it fixed two days ago. This site is a blessing. Will donate this weekend for sure! Xda-developers is a work of inspiration that I will have to trawl more often.