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Although all the information can be found on the forum and in the HTC Hermes Wiki there are always many posts with questions about upgrading and unlocking. I hope this will make it a bit clearer for you:
Bootloader
The bootloader is the place where you can change the low-level software parameters and some hardware parameters of the Hermes, change and read the ROM and provides information about it.
The bootloader is invoked by pressing down both the POWER button and SIDE OK together and using the stylus at the same time to press the RESET button at the bottom.
The bootloader version is shown for a short amount of time when booting the device. You'll see "SPL-1.0X"
Versions
1.04
There is a bug in bootloader 1.04 wich allows you to flash any ROM without a CID check. You have to be in bootloader mode to use this bug.
It's possible to upgrade the RadioROM. You can even flash a patched RadioROM wich is needed to unlock your device.
1.06
The bug from version 1.04 is fixed. Without downgrading to a Shipped ROM with bootloader 1.04 that matches your CID it's not possible to flash a ROM with a different CID.
The RadioROM can't be upgraded. You have to downgrade to bootloader 1.04 to unlock your device.
1.09
You can't downgrade to bootloader 1.04 by flashing a Shipped ROM. However imei-check.co.uk is able to downgrade the bootloader.
There was a solution posted on this forum, but it was stolen from imei-check and was removed. If you are not willing to pay you have to wait until another solution is developed.
The RadioROM can't be upgraded. You have to downgrade to bootloader 1.04 to unlock your device.
CID
The CID your device has varies from operater to operater. It should garantee that only upgrades from a single operater can be installed (to ensure the device is branded etc.)
You can make your device SuperCID wich is some kind of "root-mode". Then you will be able to flash every ROM without thinking about bootloader versions and CIDs.
To find out wich CID your device has use the command "info 2" in bootloader. Read Hermes_BootLoader to know how to use the bootloader.
Preparations
Before you upgrade your ROM (wich will also upgrade your bootloader) you should make your device SuperCID.
Especially if you either upgrade to bootloader 1.06 and there's no Shipped ROM Upgrade with bootloader 1.04 available that matches your CID or upgrade to bootloader 1.09
Unlock / Make your device SuperCID
Use pof's SIM Unlock v2a. This will flash a patched RadioROM that is needed for the unlocking process. Unlock v2a makes your device SuperCID and removes the SIM-Lock.
You need bootloader version 1.04!
The process of flashing the RadioROM and use the unlocker is explained here
There is one restriction: At the moment it's not possible to unlock X01HT devices wich where bought after 12/1/2006 and have bootloader version 1.09 and RadioROM version 1.14.0.10! Please be patient.
Radio version can be checked from Start->Settings->System->Device Information:Radio Version.
Downgrade Bootloader
If you have bootloader version 1.06 and there is a Shipped ROM Upgrade with bootloader version 1.04 available that matches your CID you can flash it to downgrade your bootloader.
Otherwise - you are on bootloader 1.09 or there is no Shipped ROM Upgrade available - you have to use imei-check.co.uk or wait until another (free) solution is developed.
For the method imei-check uses to downgrade the bootloader a working operating system is required.
Upgrade the ROM
If you flash a ROM the first time you should read Upgrade For Beginners and the Upgrade FAQ if you have further questions.
Available Upgrades are listed here
Upgrade RadioROM
There are also Extracted RadioROMs available. You need bootloader 1.04 to flash these!
good summary sn00x. you should post this on the wiki as well.
tthank u very much for the information. it is a bit clearer for me now
Excellent summary for the beginner! Vielen Dank!
Please also read Quentin-'s Hermes Upgrading Guide for a detailed description of the upgrade process and information about ExtendedROM cooking.
it should be posted in the wiki
cristal clear now.... I had posted a question in another thread and read a lot of forums without success. Now I know for sure that have to wait... any ideas on how much time.. thanks for all the help!!!
Super CID
When one upgrades a Radio ROM is it necessary to go back and make the device Super CID again, or is it sticky.
The reason for this question is that I down graded to bl 1.04, made my device Super CID as it was never simlocked, and then upgraded my Radio to 1.27. My device returned a QTEK code, so I just ran Super CID again. It now again displays Super CID.
Is that the way it works?
Thanks for your posting - it certainly has taught me a lot!
@basilrsa: To make SuperCID sticky you need to run Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe on your phone while it has the patched radio that shows SuperCID. Otherwise it is lost after radio upgrades.
Thanks again pof
pof said:
@basilrsa: To make SuperCID sticky you need to run Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe on your phone while it has the patched radio that shows SuperCID. Otherwise it is lost after radio upgrades.
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Thanks pof for that information. That's what I figured out so I reflashed the patched radio,reran Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe and then flashed the 1.27 radio.
Just to be sure I reran the Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe.
I guess that should be OK
Has this been put into the wiki? Someone please do the honours and report back with a roger wilco.
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bl1.04
Gentlemen,
Quentin wrote:
"Even with the Super CID hack you cannot install a different radio
if your ROM installed BootLoader 1.06 or greater."
If my current machine state is
1. "Sticky" superCID has been accomplished.
2. Task 32 verifies the device is in superCID mode.
3. Bootloader page displays 1.04
does it stay that way for good regardless of what I flash? If I flash a rom which carries bl1.09 what is the bootloader version going to read on the device at the completion of the flash process?
If I make this simple and go buy a IMEI-check unlock to superCID my bl1.09 system will the bootloader page change to read bl1.04 and will it stay that way regardless of what I flash?
Is bl1.04 going to stay put with subsiquent rom loads?
Thanks
pof said:
@basilrsa: To make SuperCID sticky you need to run Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe on your phone while it has the patched radio that shows SuperCID. Otherwise it is lost after radio upgrades.
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Hi, I am quite new with all this things. I just upgraded my radio to 1.27.00.00, does it mean, that my phone is CID locked again (I unlocked it together with SIM unlock).
How do I find oud, whther the phone is SuperCID or not. Thnax a lot
zzzp said:
Hi, I am quite new with all this things. I just upgraded my radio to 1.27.00.00, does it mean, that my phone is CID locked again (I unlocked it together with SIM unlock).
How do I find oud, whther the phone is SuperCID or not. Thnax a lot
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Read the WIKI first... it tells you to issue 'info 2' command in bootloader.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
Seriously, if you've CID unlocked and radio flashed your Hermes without reading this far you're probably going to brick your phone sometime soon, so it'll pay to do some more reading before you play too much more.
1.04 vs 1.06 vs 1.09
I've been "burning eyelashes" for the last few days, my Firefox tabs seems like a huge cargo train
One thing i never could understand of all the readings i've made is about the functional advantages on the various bootloaders . Let me explain:
I know 1.04 is the only one that allows radio-only flashes but let's forget all flashing. Let's concentrate on everyday's use.
Does anyone know if 1.06 and 1.09 will make the PDA run better? I mean, if there's a newer ROM that brings bug corrections and new features so i guess that's the same for bootloaders. In this line of thinking 1.09 should do something better than 1.04. If so what is it?
Why i'm making this question? It's because everyone wants to have the best software version for himself uses, so i don't understand why people improve on ROM's, ExtROM and radios but keep a lower version of the bootloader after flashing. Aren't they missing something using 1.04 instead of 1.09?
I have my TyTN only for a week now and i'm looking forward to do things right by reading all that i need to know. So far this is the question that i haven't seen answered.
Cheers everyone,
Evandro
Well...I'm no expert but I'd imagine that you're venturing down the wrong path. I would venture a guess that many of the bootloader revisions have been made solely to enforce increased security or to attempt to prevent hacking or modding of the underlying OS and Radio ROMs.
That was a really great summary and guide. Unfortunately from all the threads and Wikis I have been reading I feel like alot has been changing very fast and I don't fully understand. This guide was great, and I was wondering if the author or anyone else (there are a bunch of guys on here who really know what they are doing) could write an updated (mabey even more detailed/technical) version. I know how to do all the flashing and stuff, but I'm not so confident I know how it's all working, especially the more recent stuff. Mabey including how stuff like the SSPL, hard SPL, mtty, KITL, nbh/nbs, and other more technical methods being used now other than the standard RUUs.
I know almost all of this info is in the forums and the wikis, but it's a little rough to grasp it all when not together. I hope this doesn't upset anyone, I just figured Quentin was gracious enough to do it once mabey he or someone else would want to do it again. If it's too much to ask then just ignore my request. I have been reading the forums for a few months now and think you guys are doing amazing work. You have improved in weeks what it takes MS to build in years and you do it much better. Thank to all and sorry again if I offended anyone by asking this (just really scared to brick my really expensive phone ...lol)
Thanks
Bootloader 1.09 ... no problem!
sn00x said:
Bootloader
Versions
1.04
There is a bug in bootloader 1.04 wich allows you to flash any ROM without a CID check. You have to be in bootloader mode to use this bug.
It's possible to upgrade the RadioROM. You can even flash a patched RadioROM wich is needed to unlock your device.
[*]1.06
The bug from version 1.04 is fixed. Without downgrading to a Shipped ROM with bootloader 1.04 that matches your CID it's not possible to flash a ROM with a different CID.
The RadioROM can't be upgraded. You have to downgrade to bootloader 1.04 to unlock your device.
[*]1.09
You can't downgrade to bootloader 1.04 by flashing a Shipped ROM. However imei-check.co.uk is able to downgrade the bootloader.
There was a solution posted on this forum, but it was stolen from imei-check and was removed. If you are not willing to pay you have to wait until another solution is developed.
The RadioROM can't be upgraded. You have to downgrade to bootloader 1.04 to unlock your device.
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I think first pages should be updated since the issue regarding 1.09 has been resolved here by the great pof:
http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
Regards
good job..
okay, being a newbie to the Softbank X01HT, I went through the forums, FAQs, and Wiki as much as I can...
anyway, i checked with imei-check in regards to unlocking my SIM; however, their method unlocks the SIM, as well as SuperCID the device. from what i undertand - SuperCID the device would void the warranty, correct?
this being the case, if i do use imei-check, is there a way to "undo" the SuperCID?
similary, i can also use a process that only unlocks the SIM, ie., pof's free unlocker... however, as ive read, this is NOT compatible with Softbank X01HT models released after December 2006. right?
in this case, are there any other ways to unlock the SIM?
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on the other hand, all i need is to unlock the SIM (no need for a SuperCID) - if there are people out there who have a better idea in going about this, please teach me...
thanks in advanced...!!!
PS: here is my Softbank X01HT
ROM: 1.33.761.4
ROM Date: 11/10/06
Radio Version: 1.14.00.10
As far as I know once you supercid it can't be reversed. I believe that if you use the hard-spl to flash, supercid isn't required anymore.
Now onto the unlocking the sim. I'm also a little bit confused on the options available. Please one of the gurus here step in and offer an explanation
garydempsy said:
As far as I know once you supercid it can't be reversed. I believe that if you use the hard-spl to flash, supercid isn't required anymore.
Now onto the unlocking the sim. I'm also a little bit confused on the options available. Please one of the gurus here step in and offer an explanation
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the way i would understand is that if imei-check.co.uk unlocker is used, there arent any issue or problems. can anyone confirm/verify this?
however, for my needs at least - all i need is for my X01HT to be SIM unlocked. i dont need it to be SuperCID, nor i need to flash any other ROM. and unfortunately, imei-check cannot do this (there are NO options for a SIM unlock-only, or a SIM unlock and SuperCID)...
i hope any of the gurus here can help, or at least confirm this understanding...
old X01HT can perfectly unlocked by V3.
how do you know the date about your X01HT produced?
lyerx said:
old X01HT can perfectly unlocked by V3.
how do you know the date about your X01HT produced?
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well, if you look at the System Info tag in Settings you'll see a date... mine is at:
>ROM: 1.33.761.4
>ROM Date: 11/10/06
>Radio Version: 1.14.00.10
Just for clarification:
imei-check temporarily SuperCIDs your device, you lost the SuperCID status when you flash another radio on it.
With the 1.16 patched radio included in my unlocker you also temporarily SuperCID the device, then you have to run the exe file on your Hermes which will let you choose if you just want to SIM-Unlock or both (do the SuperCID sticky forever). If you don't choose the SuperCID option, then the SuperCID status is lost when you flash another radio on it.
I have had reports of people unlocking without problems X01ht devices with v3, but some others reported they can't boot OS after unlocking, and as I can't test it I put the warning, so do it at your own risk.
Anyway, I'm planning to release a new unlocker version soon
pof said:
Just for clarification:
imei-check temporarily SuperCIDs your device, you lost the SuperCID status when you flash another radio on it.
With the 1.16 patched radio included in my unlocker you also temporarily SuperCID the device, then you have to run the exe file on your Hermes which will let you choose if you just want to SIM-Unlock or both (do the SuperCID sticky forever). If you don't choose the SuperCID option, then the SuperCID status is lost when you flash another radio on it.
I have had reports of people unlocking without problems X01ht devices with v3, but some others reported they can't boot OS after unlocking, and as I can't test it I put the warning, so do it at your own risk.
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thanks for the reply, pof...
on the other hand, what do you mean by "temporarily SuperCIDs..."...? would it mean that the device is still registered to Softbank and at the same time you can flash another ROM?
all i want though is just have my device SIM-free so i dont have to deal with exorhbitant roaming rates when travelling abroad... not much privy with playing with other ROMs, yet; as well as not wanting to void my warranty.
Anyway, I'm planning to release a new unlocker version soon
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really? what would be the new stuff that youd be adding in?
I am an owner of a BEFORE DEC. model X01HT and sim unlock&SuperCID by pof's v2a unlocker.
Since April is coming, I have to update the rom to use the net according SB. I wonder if the sim-unlock will remain after I update. i hope so sadly.
I, TOO, don't mind the SuperCID.
Anyway, thank pof ad waiting for the new unlocker.
ps: if i use another sim card other than SB, I can use WIFI or BT only about two minites continiously. then it will be disconnected automatically. Anyone else has same experience? I use SB_USIM to avoid the annoying popup.
I submit this post via my X01HT.
Hi, if I Update my HTC and this is unlocked. ¿I lose this condition?
thanks
Depends on what ROM you flash! You will have to CID unlock your device first anyway! Even though your HERMES might be SIM unlocked (meaning you can use any SIM card in there) it is still CID locked which keeps you from flashing with any ROM you want to ...
But however, even if your phone gets SIM locked after a flash: you always can SIM / CID unlock your phone again using the HERMES_UNLOCKER!
PLease read carefully UNLOCKING for BEGINNERS in the WIKI HERMES SECTION!
the phone will not become simlocked again.
the CID can be changed if you wish, or bypassed by using Hard-SPL or SSPL.
the new CustomRUU, once universally adopted will ensure people not bothering to use Hard-SPL (which is somewhat idiotic) can flash without issue.
thank's for your advices,
my last question.
I have SPL-1.09 ds, I want update whit SCHAPS WM6 (multilingual), just follow the manual and all right, or i need to do something more.
hi guys,
i just bought a used 8525 from cingular and the guy told me its unlocked, i put my sim card from tmobile and it worked, the rom is cingulars wm6, i want to know if its already cid unlocked or not, i have files for new wm6 rom from viet but its very specific, it needs a spl 1.04 to be installed but this is what i have in the bootloader screen:
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-1.40.Olipro
then in the splash screen this is what i have:
M 05 R 1.54.07.00
S 04 G 32.86u.7020.23H
B 06 D 3.62
i want to know what do i have to do to install the new unbranded rom and also to know if its CID unlocked or just SIM unlocked, any help will be very much appreciated =)
this is my first phone tweak BTW...
a rom that requires a specific spl? never heard of that.....but whaever.
if i'm not mistaken, hardspl only bypasses cid.....it doesnt really makes your device supercid. i think you might be able to check for the cid level via mtty, but that may be way above your knowledge, why dont you just try running the cid and sim unlocker that's in the sticky. i would be a good "warmup" for your rom flashing.
and i can guess you next question is probably how to downgrade the spl, that info is in mrvanx's guide which is a sticky in one of these hermes subforum.
i guess, if you did put in a T-Mobile simcard into a Cingular branded 8525 and it worked, then your machine should have been CID unlocked. coz normal Hard-SPL flash only allows you to install unofficial cooked roms but not letting you use other providers' simcards.
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i guess, if you did put in a T-Mobile simcard into a Cingular branded 8525 and it worked, then your machine should have been CID unlocked. coz normal Hard-SPL flash only allows you to install unofficial cooked roms but not letting you use other providers' simcards.
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you are talking about SIM unlocking. SIM unlocking is not the same as CID unlocking. CID unlocking it wat allows you to flash roms not meant for your device. as i mentioned earlier, hardspl also allows you to do so, but harspl only bypasses CID but doesnt CID unlock.
Hello all,
I finally talked AT&T into giving me an unlock code for my Fuze. But they said I needed to put another carriers sim in before it would prompt me for the code.
Is there another way to enter this code?
I would like to do this so I can flash a different radio.
Thanks for all the help.
jsmith7364 said:
Hello all,
I finally talked AT&T into giving me an unlock code for my Fuze. But they said I needed to put another carriers sim in before it would prompt me for the code.
Is there another way to enter this code?
Thanks for all the help.
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Nope. Must have a non AT&T Sim, If you go to nextel, or t-mobile, they might sell you one. Besides this is NOT what you do to flash a rom, you need to read the sticky regarding SPL and Security unlocker. All the code does is sim unlock, you need security unlock and spl.
I have been flashing roms to the Fuze as well as to my 8525 for some time. But that post you cite didn't go into depth on how to unlock if and when AT&T gives you the code. It stated the only other way to do it besides an aftermarket unlocker is to get it unlocked by AT&T.
Which is what I thought they gave me. Just no directions or anything on how to do it.
You've been a member here for a year and a half, claim to have flashed Roms to both Fuze and 8525 but don't know about HardSPL or what Security Unlocked is?
Here's the short of it:
At&t provides a SIM Unlock Code so you can put another provider's SIM into your phone. The first time you do this the phone will ask for your unlock code, enter it and you're done.
HardSPL CID Unlocks your device so you can flash cooked Roms or Roms from other providers. It also prevents the SPL from being overwritten so you don't have to worry about unwanted security upgrades.
Security Unlocking is the ultimate, on a Raphael it allows you to flash properly modified BlackStone, Experia & Diamond Radio Roms. It also prevents a Radio Rom from getting locked onto you device.
Now I'm closing this thread as it has served it's prupose and cluttered the search results even further.
jsmith7364 said:
I have been flashing roms to the Fuze as well as to my 8525 for some time. But that post you cite didn't go into depth on how to unlock if and when AT&T gives you the code. It stated the only other way to do it besides an aftermarket unlocker is to get it unlocked by AT&T.
Which is what I thought they gave me. Just no directions or anything on how to do it.
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