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my new Atrix came with 2.2 froyo dont laugh but i do love this stock rom more than the new gingerbread my friends just keep telling me to upgrade my phone and my question here is what is the benefits of upgrading other than the icons, themes , widgets ...ect thanks
More features, availability of ROMs, unlocking etc. Currently on neutrino gt... if you like froyo more than neutrino...please, go jump off the biggest building you can find...lol. its not possible
1. off all its the visual telephony option for me.
2. Froyo doesn't use the two cores. so, the speed isn't so good.
3. 2.3.6 has firefox 8 for the webdock. it's faster and better if you use it.
a lot more customizability and performance
Would you please link me some of the best custom roms thanks in advance .
Monzer_ said:
Would you please link me some of the best custom roms thanks in advance .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257574 2.3.7 very good, very stable, long batterylife, no webtop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430608 2.3.6 with blur, very smooth, but its in the beginning of development, so it has some bugs
grobi99 said:
1. off all its the visual telephony option for me.
2. Froyo doesn't use the two cores. so, the speed isn't so good.
3. 2.3.6 has firefox 8 for the webdock. it's faster and better if you use it.
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Its been a while but I seem to remember that Moto's Froyo on the Atrix was "optimized" for two cores, not sure exactly what they did to "optimize" it, but I would say that #2 on this list is not correct.
The biggest thing and the one reason you should ALWAYS upgrade is for security reasons, the new features are great, but with each new version come bugfixes and security enhancements and those you should not pass on.
Which roms (or rom families, really) are best for which purposes? I know some are designed to be fast and lightweight, while others go for the richest user experience, or other specialized purpose/situation.
My question is how can I find out the aim of the various roms?
The rom threads focus mostly on features provided and what rom family (if any) they based it on. Since I have no idea the aim of the original rom family (aokp, cm, miui, etc.) it's hard to decide which one is right for me.
Which player do you have?
dstarfire said:
Which roms (or rom families, really) are best for which purposes? I know some are designed to be fast and lightweight, while others go for the richest user experience, or other specialized purpose/situation.
My question is how can I find out the aim of the various roms?
The rom threads focus mostly on features provided and what rom family (if any) they based it on. Since I have no idea the aim of the original rom family (aokp, cm, miui, etc.) it's hard to decide which one is right for me.
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Stock ROMs, which most of the customs ROMs out there are based on, are probably the most stable but the performance won't be as good.
CM7 and CM9 are slim and super fast, while MIUI, which is Cyanogen-based, has a bit more eye candy at the cost of performance. AOKP is very similar to CM9, except as far as I know the team has added many tweaks and features to make the experience more pleasant. Both are good choices if you're looking for ICS.
Hope this clears up some of the questions you may have
Thanks, Klin. That's exactly the sort of info I'm looking for.
and I'm running the USA 5.0, fgcu. It was either this or an ipad, and avoiding itunes was worth the extra $20 (ipods were on sale that week).
If you are looking to install a rom, I recommend what I have listed down below. The dev of the rom is currently updating it to 2.3.6 and I can't wait for it. It will deffinitely fix the wifi drop bug and a slightly better Gingerbread version. You do need to install a custom rom though and the one below is also a good one too.
Sent from my GenericGinger ROM + Entropy512 Kernal Samsung Galaxy Player 5 U.S. using xda app-developers app
This was my rom of choice back when I was running GB. In my opinion it is the most stable rom available for the Player 5.0. This rom is pretty fast and light as it is based on a stock GB rom.
I would also recommend this rom as it is also very stable.
For general use I would say use GB as everything works, but you can also get ICS roms if you want but all of the ICS roms in the development section have pretty major issues e.g. the camera does not work. Take a look in the development section and read the user comments/reviews/bug reports
Hi all,
I'm sort of new here, so I hope I'm abiding by all the rules... I believe I am :angel:
I've only recently rooted my Samsung Galaxy S3 (international) and have been using Omega for a while now and I'm running 33.3 atm. So not the one based on CM10, but the one based on the stock rom.
I've now reached a point where I'm feeling that I've been there and done that. So I'd like to try a new fresh solution. I've been looking at CM10 and ParanoidAndroid, as these seem to have the largest user base, based on the number of posts here in XDA Developers forums in their threads. However I'm unsure if either of these are right for me.
I believe I read about CM10 having added a feature where you inside the OS could search for and download new versions directly on the phone, like you can with new software on iOS. Is this possible on both CM10 and ParanoidAndroid?
I'm looking for something that is both rock stable and yet constantly adds new gizmos and features, so I have something to play with. I'd like for it to be very easy for me to upgrade to newer versions. On Omega you downloaded via torrents, transferred to the SD card and then just rebooted into CWM and installed from zip. It automatically wiped cache, dalvik and such. So you didn't really have to do much yourself. But if CM10 could do it evern better and also download directly to the Phone, then that's a big plus for me.
I'm also a bit curious about why people change so much stuff on their phones. I often hear people talk about different kernels. From what I understand the kernel is sort of the drivers that bridges the gap between the OS and the hardware. Why is this so important? On Omega the default seemed to work perfectly... so what do you actually get by swapping? if the answer is 0.5% extra batterylife, then that's just not enough for me.
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rock stable.
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CM10 builds are nightlies, and PA is based off of CM10. So if you want rock stable - go stock
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Hi all,
I'm sort of new here, so I hope I'm abiding by all the rules... I believe I am :angel:
I'm looking for something that is both rock stable and yet constantly adds new gizmos and features, so I have something to play with. I'd like for it to be very easy for me to upgrade to newer versions.
I'm also a bit curious about why people change so much stuff on their phones. I often hear people talk about different kernels. From what I understand the kernel is sort of the drivers that bridges the gap between the OS and the hardware. Why is this so important? .
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Well first of all, kernel is not only your "drivers". It manages your governors, your I/O schedulers, CPU freq etc. That means when you are flashing a new kernel you are either looking for some improvements in responsiveness of the device, deep-sleep state improvements, WiFi patches (muticast f.e.), modules (like mali gpu), ko's (lets say for xbox controller or openvpn support), better RAM management OR you simply wanna sound smart to your friends :cyclops:
There are couple of articles you should take a look by droidphile, first one is Kernel Stuff and the second one is Governors, Modules, etc
Regarding the ROM, it pretty much depends on what you would like to do with it. If you wanna have working radio, call recording, "smart stay" and other things which are specific to TW based ROM's than you should stick with Samsung TW based ones.
CM is awesome! Very clean and nice experience. Couple of glitches here and there but no deal breaker.
PA is my daily driver. I'm very happy with it and I can't recommend enough. Highly customizable, tons of options, custom led lights, different DPI settings for each app, different layouts, on screen nav bar so on and so forth.
Although PA is based off of CM they are now migrating to AOSP. The main difference between them is code bloat. CM has own settings and codes to support them, which makes it a little bit slower than AOSP but that doesn't mean its worst.
You should start experimenting and see for yourself. XDA is full of information and although the search function is not working for the moment it will work and you can find all your answers.
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Well first of all, kernel is not only your "drivers". It manages your governors, your I/O schedulers, CPU freq etc. That means when you are flashing a new kernel you are either looking for some improvements in responsiveness of the device, deep-sleep state improvements, WiFi patches (muticast f.e.), modules (like mali gpu), ko's (lets say for xbox controller or openvpn support), better RAM management OR you simply wanna sound smart to your friends :cyclops:
There are couple of articles you should take a look by droidphile, first one is Kernel Stuff and the second one is Governors, Modules, etc
Regarding the ROM, it pretty much depends on what you would like to do with it. If you wanna have working radio, call recording, "smart stay" and other things which are specific to TW based ROM's than you should stick with Samsung TW based ones.
CM is awesome! Very clean and nice experience. Couple of glitches here and there but no deal breaker.
PA is my daily driver. I'm very happy with it and I can't recommend enough. Highly customizable, tons of options, custom led lights, different DPI settings for each app, different layouts, on screen nav bar so on and so forth.
Although PA is based off of CM they are now migrating to AOSP. The main difference between them is code bloat. CM has own settings and codes to support them, which makes it a little bit slower than AOSP but that doesn't mean its worst.
You should start experimenting and see for yourself. XDA is full of information and although the search function is not working for the moment it will work and you can find all your answers.
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Thanks a lot for your answer, I greatly appreciate it
I'm currently running the stock rom, and I'm wondering if any other roms out there would provide improved performance without compromising stability much? My galazy player works ok most of the time, but there are times when it just seems to slow to a crawl (i think its checking for updates to stuff in the background).
There are a lot of different versions of cyanogenmod out there. Would a certain one be better than the others? While in the changelog for each android version, they claim to improve performance and stuff... but I also know that generally apps tend to get slower and fatter as the version number increases.
I've also been looking at EtherealRom, how would that compare?
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I'm currently running the stock rom, and I'm wondering if any other roms out there would provide improved performance without compromising stability much? My galazy player works ok most of the time, but there are times when it just seems to slow to a crawl (i think its checking for updates to stuff in the background).
There are a lot of different versions of cyanogenmod out there. Would a certain one be better than the others? While in the changelog for each android version, they claim to improve performance and stuff... but I also know that generally apps tend to get slower and fatter as the version number increases.
I've also been looking at EtherealRom, how would that compare?
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Improved performance? Absolutely! Without a doubt! Stability? That depends on the ROM and your device. I'm currently running CM 10.2 on my 5 without any serious issues (SODs, pocket reboots, etc.). Of course, there's the obvious problem regarding the camera (it simply doesn't work), but that's not a big deal for me personally. The pictures my device takes are caca anyway...
The version of cyanogenmod will again depend on you and your device. CM 10.2 has TRIM, and I think it performs better. Considering our device's low specs though, YMMV. Don't know anything about EtherealRom, so I can't help you there.
Zarxrax said:
I'm currently running the stock rom, and I'm wondering if any other roms out there would provide improved performance without compromising stability much? My galazy player works ok most of the time, but there are times when it just seems to slow to a crawl (i think its checking for updates to stuff in the background).
There are a lot of different versions of cyanogenmod out there. Would a certain one be better than the others? While in the changelog for each android version, they claim to improve performance and stuff... but I also know that generally apps tend to get slower and fatter as the version number increases.
I've also been looking at EtherealRom, how would that compare?
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Redd is the best when it comes to stability on the stock based side, where as CM10.2 is the best when it comes to battery life and performance.
I have some thoughts about custom roms in general.
Wanted to know if I'm alone in this or am I missing something.
I'm an android user for a long time and like to tinker with custom roms.
Reading a lot of posts on XDA I came to a conclusion that a large amount of you prefer AOSP build roms rather then CM.
I share the same opinion.
I don't like pie controls, heavy themes, 44 toggle buttons, list view animations ect....
I like roms that are close to stock android as possible and from your posts many of you do, too.
I appreciate all the work devs are doing for the community....
but would like to see more custom roms that are AOSP based and close to stock rather then having a lot of (for me at least) unnecessary features.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
Thank you in advance.
AOSP is pure android and CM is some handy features included in AOSP. I personally prefer CM over AOSP because of this. For instance, quick drawer swipe and clear all in recent buttons. So basically their is not much difference but you can choose not to use any of these features in CM . I don't use pie control. Theme usage is upto you. Though black themes save battery and sometimes makes look better when you are bored with stock look. Toggles again are quite good to use. If you don't want to use a toggle, you can remove it. But I like sync, LTE selector and IME selector toggle.
Once you use CM, it's little hard to go back to vanilla android.
s3r3tin said:
I have some thoughts about custom roms in general.
Wanted to know if I'm alone in this or am I missing something.
I'm an android user for a long time and like to tinker with custom roms.
Reading a lot of posts on XDA I came to a conclusion that a large amount of you prefer AOSP build roms rather then CM.
I share the same opinion.
I don't like pie controls, heavy themes, 44 toggle buttons, list view animations ect....
I like roms that are close to stock android as possible and from your posts many of you do, too.
I appreciate all the work devs are doing for the community....
but would like to see more custom roms that are AOSP based and close to stock rather then having a lot of (for me at least) unnecessary features.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
Thank you in advance.
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Don't get me wrong... Diversity is great... But at the same time realize that we had a CM tree long before the recent CAF AOSP tree came around. I don't think you're going to find many ROMs that don't use it as a base and as far as AOSP goes, we have AOSParadox which is a CAF optimised AOSP ROM. I believe @OldDroid has something in store as well.
As for CM being bloated, I can see where an experienced user would complain. At the sane time they are useful features.
If anything, we need more kernels. Despair for instance, hasn't had any commits for at least a month
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AOSP is pure android and CM is some handy features included in AOSP. I personally prefer CM over AOSP because of this. For instance, quick drawer swipe and clear all in recent buttons. So basically their is not much difference but you can choose not to use any of these features in CM . I don't use pie control. Theme usage is upto you. Though black themes save battery and sometimes makes look better when you are bored with stock look. Toggles again are quite good to use. If you don't want to use a toggle, you can remove it. But I like sync, LTE selector and IME selector toggle.
Once you use CM, it's little hard to go back to vanilla android.
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That is exactly what I was curious about. I see that your android experience as far as custom roms and features goes differs far from mine. I used to install custom roms when i bought my first android smartphone (i9100). tried out almost every rom that was available at the time... from CM to AOKP, Paranoid Android and many others. I now own Oneplus x and had just yesterday installed AOSParadox. my experience with it for now is that it is fluid and seems stable enough for daily use. the only thing I miss is tristate keys. CM13.1 in retrospect had some bugs with the flashlight and with google now(home button)... but maybe it was fixed in the meantime. sudamod, resurrection remix, mokee, aicp where exacly what I wrote about and had too many features that for me are not that useful as a user.
The main reason for writing my post was because I saw a lot of users here and on oneplus forums requesting an 6.0.1 AOSP rom.
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Don't get me wrong... Diversity is great... But at the same time realize that we had a CM tree long before the recent CAF AOSP tree came around. I don't think you're going to find many ROMs that don't use it as a base and as far as AOSP goes, we have AOSParadox which is a CAF optimised AOSP ROM. I believe @OldDroid has something in store as well.
As for CM being bloated, I can see where an experienced user would complain. At the sane time they are useful features.
If anything, we need more kernels. Despair for instance, hasn't had any commits for at least a month
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That was one of the reasons why I have decided to write my post.
I saw a lot of users here and on other forums requesting an 6.0.1 AOSP rom.
Some of them where more specific and wanted to find roms that are not CM based.
Even as far as I know when a dev is listing bugs those are bugs that come with CM base itself (mostly wifi, bluetooth, camera bugs).
I now own Oneplus X. One thing I found interesting was that when using stock oxygenos my gaming experience was that the games where lagging a bit.
When I flashed a custom rom and went to settings - battery - battery mode and set it to performance all the games run just fine.
Since you mentioned that we need more kernels... do you thing that gaming performance or performance in general could benefit from custom kernels and what features would you use (and not) in that kernel.
Thank you for your reply and for your time.
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That was one of the reasons why I have decided to write my post.
I saw a lot of users here and on other forums requesting an 6.0.1 AOSP rom.
Some of them where more specific and wanted to find roms that are not CM based.
Even as far as I know when a dev is listing bugs those are bugs that come with CM base itself (mostly wifi, bluetooth, camera bugs).
I now own Oneplus X. One thing I found interesting was that when using stock oxygenos my gaming experience was that the games where lagging a bit.
When I flashed a custom rom and went to settings - battery - battery mode and set it to performance all the games run just fine.
Since you mentioned that we need more kernels... do you thing that gaming performance or performance in general could benefit from custom kernels and what features would you use (and not) in that kernel.
Thank you for your reply and for your time.
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I believe that both could easily see a boost. Take Boeffla for instance. Makes the device feel an entire tier or two higher in performance then it is with just the stock kernel. As for what I'd like to see INA kernel, here's a list
1. HID Keyboard and CDROM support
2. F2FS support for cache
3. A CAF base
4. Unlocked voltage and clock speed
5. 3.10 instead of 3.4
6. CM 13 support
That's what comes to mind. Boeffla does most things for me and battery life is great but it lacks CM support. AK is pretty awesome in terms of performance enhancements, Franco was amazing back when I used it (last I checked you'd edit a file for configuration versus using an auditor), and Despair is really great
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Oh and something built with the Sabermod toolchain would be pretty swell.
s3r3tin said:
I have some thoughts about custom roms in general.
Wanted to know if I'm alone in this or am I missing something.
I'm an android user for a long time and like to tinker with custom roms.
Reading a lot of posts on XDA I came to a conclusion that a large amount of you prefer AOSP build roms rather then CM.
I share the same opinion.
I don't like pie controls, heavy themes, 44 toggle buttons, list view animations ect....
I like roms that are close to stock android as possible and from your posts many of you do, too.
I appreciate all the work devs are doing for the community....
but would like to see more custom roms that are AOSP based and close to stock rather then having a lot of (for me at least) unnecessary features.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
Thank you in advance.
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You see, the thing with custom roms is that you just use what's available. It is difficult to put request in the open.
For instance I like custom stock roms, which totally isn't available. But I'm not in the position to ask for this. The only thing we can do (as non developers) is to support this particular scene, if one day a dev cooks one up. Which for aosp already has been done.
So go ahead and install and try the few aosp and participate with this community, to make better aosp roms. Which eventually will result in more aosp roms.