my new Atrix came with 2.2 froyo dont laugh but i do love this stock rom more than the new gingerbread my friends just keep telling me to upgrade my phone and my question here is what is the benefits of upgrading other than the icons, themes , widgets ...ect thanks
More features, availability of ROMs, unlocking etc. Currently on neutrino gt... if you like froyo more than neutrino...please, go jump off the biggest building you can find...lol. its not possible
1. off all its the visual telephony option for me.
2. Froyo doesn't use the two cores. so, the speed isn't so good.
3. 2.3.6 has firefox 8 for the webdock. it's faster and better if you use it.
a lot more customizability and performance
Would you please link me some of the best custom roms thanks in advance .
Monzer_ said:
Would you please link me some of the best custom roms thanks in advance .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257574 2.3.7 very good, very stable, long batterylife, no webtop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430608 2.3.6 with blur, very smooth, but its in the beginning of development, so it has some bugs
grobi99 said:
1. off all its the visual telephony option for me.
2. Froyo doesn't use the two cores. so, the speed isn't so good.
3. 2.3.6 has firefox 8 for the webdock. it's faster and better if you use it.
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Its been a while but I seem to remember that Moto's Froyo on the Atrix was "optimized" for two cores, not sure exactly what they did to "optimize" it, but I would say that #2 on this list is not correct.
The biggest thing and the one reason you should ALWAYS upgrade is for security reasons, the new features are great, but with each new version come bugfixes and security enhancements and those you should not pass on.
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Simple question really, is Froyo really worth it on the HTC Hero.
I mean what difference does it really make to are HTC Hero Phones, the main differences I know, is the ability to store apps to the SD card, which if you are rooted you can do anyway.
The ability to properly play flash files, which I don't think the HTC Hero will fully support due to hardware issues.
Meant to be faster. But using the 2.2 roms, we have, I did not notice any increase of speed and if anything, the speed gets much slower after using it a few days. (excluding Fusion rom).
On top of this, some apps wont support Froyo, you lose HTC sence/HTC apps, and there is keyboard problems.
What do you lot think?
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Simple question really, is Froyo really worth it on the HTC Hero.
I mean what difference does it really make to are HTC Hero Phones, the main differences I know, is the ability to store apps to the SD card, which if you are rooted you can do anyway.
The ability to properly play flash files, which I don't think the HTC Hero will fully support due to hardware issues.
Meant to be faster. But using the 2.2 roms, we have, I did not notice any increase of speed and if anything, the speed gets much slower after using it a few days. (excluding Fusion rom).
On top of this, some apps wont support Froyo, you lose HTC sence/HTC apps, and there is keyboard problems.
What do you lot think?
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From the moment I installed the first development build of FroydVillain, I am never going back to 2.1. It's honestly that good.
The main benefit is having JIT, which speeds up the ROM. We have seen scores of 5.3 mflops in linpack using Froyd1.1.1 with overclock.
Froyo is also the latest version, includes the stock browser with the V8 javascript engine etc. and has automatic market updates amongst other random stuff
Have a look at the new features of froyo, as I've never looked back yet
PS. camera doesn't work properly yet, but IMHO it's a decent compromise for the ROM that has given me the best battery life ever etc.
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From the moment I installed the first development build of FroydVillain, I am never going back to 2.1. It's honestly that good.
The main benefit is having JIT, which speeds up the ROM. We have seen scores of 5.3 mflops in linpack using Froyd1.1.1 with overclock.
Froyo is also the latest version, includes the stock browser with the V8 javascript engine etc. and has automatic market updates amongst other random stuff
Have a look at the new features of froyo, as I've never looked back yet
PS. camera doesn't work properly yet, but IMHO it's a decent compromise for the ROM that has given me the best battery life ever etc.
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I did have a very good look at all three Froyos ROMs and then I installed 2.1 again, Android 2.1 is so far 100% better for the HTC Hero, in my opinion.
I don't think I miss much by having to individually update the apps, especially since I don't like being the first to update apps as not all updates are for the best (E.G. Astro (now with adds))
Although the Rom is meant to be faster I found it a lot slower, even though I was using Set CPU, only Fusion Rom was decent (but as other roms still had reliability problems). With 2.1 everything is much faster.
I will probably try Android 2.2 again, but I will probably wait till there is a version with Sense as in my opinion Launcher pro (plus) is so inferior in comparison. Sense is a very important feature in my opinion.
Between Android 1.5 > 2.1 there was a big difference and it was worth updating, here no such difference exist, and the main attraction of 2.2 the ability to play proper flash does not work with the Hero.
Just my opinion, but would it be fair to say that its still a bit early to be drawing comparisons?
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Just my opinion, but would it be fair to say that its still a bit early to be drawing comparisons?
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Yeah, i'd agree. Wait another week or two, till the issues start to go, then look again
tbh i think it is good that the scene is moving towards 2.2.
sure things dont fully work atm and certain features wont be beneficial on the hero, but at least there are people working on it so that there is an option if it is needed/wanted.
it is better that there are questions as to whether we need 2.2 on the hero, rather than endless questions of "when will 2.2 be ported".
Just my opinion, but would it be fair to say that its still a bit early to be drawing comparisons?
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I just posted (on my two posts) on what we have available at the moment, and what we know about Android 2.2 in relation to flash, app2sd and automatic updates. No matter what rom comes out in the future these problems will persist.
I agree that all the roms we have are just beta-like versions, and that I am hopeful that the roms will be faster in due time. I even mentioned in my 2nd post that I will try Android 2.2 again once someone manages to incorporate HTC sense to it.
it is better that there are questions as to whether we need 2.2 on the hero, rather than endless questions of "when will 2.2 be ported".
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I 100% agree with you, and I fully appreciate all the work that developers make in order to develop these roms. But at this moment in time, I found that upgrading my phone to Android 2.2 felt more of a downgrade (excluding Fusion, to some extent).
To be honest ill be very surprised, if we ever get a good Froyo rom, which is as fast as the 2.1 roms and works properly with flash. But we will have to wait and see.
Hmmm. I see your concern about automatic updates, but they are optional, and need to be actively enabled in my experience.
EXT apps2sd is miles better than the included one, so I think it's a case of "better than original" for that.
Sense should come with time. No idea about flash tbh.
Froyd is looking to be a fair bit faster now
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Hmmm. I see your concern about automatic updates, but they are optional, and need to be actively enabled in my experience.
EXT apps2sd is miles better than the included one, so I think it's a case of "better than original" for that.
Sense should come with time. No idea about flash tbh.
Froyd is looking to be a fair bit faster now
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Any idea if we are talking about weeks, or months for Sense
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Any idea if we are talking about weeks, or months for Sense
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I can be even more specific. A few days after HTC does the first Sense Froyo ROM for Slide or Legend. But no idea how good these ROMs will be, as there will be porting needed.
Hi,
I've been considering installing a custom froyo rom on my Hero, currently running the standard 2.1 sense rom from HTC.
I'm mostly concerned with speed and stability. So will the overall speed of my phone be better with a custom rom (as 2.2 generally is faster than 2.1), will it run smoother, scroll smoother? And how the stability on the current roms?
Can you maybe recommend one?
I'm not so much interested in the new features, but mostly on the speed of the device. So what would you recommend?
I rooted my phone the day I got it back in August 09 and have no regrets at all.
The devs who create the ROMs and custom kernals are usually very good at optimising them better than HTC themselves, so yes... chances are high you will see a big improvement in speed and stability. It doesn't even have to be Froyo.
You do have to be prepared to do a lot of reading and try a few different ROMs and set-ups to get the best out of your device though, but the end result will be worth it.
As for what ROM to go for. I've stuck with VillainROM 12 (Android 2.1) since it was released as it does exactly what I need it to and seems to be very stable. With Flykernal 12-pre2 it's is also very fast, although it was fast enough anyway.
I've never really been tempted by any 2.2 ROMs to be honest. I've tried most of them out but not enough to give any recommendations. Give me a 2.2 Sense ROM with Tristan's SenseVillain theme and I'll happily say good bye to VR12 though.
So, my suggestion to you would be (all at your own risk obviously):
Root it, do a Nandroid back-up, find a decent ROM, flash flykernal, download SetCPU from the Market and then just have a play about until you have a nice mix of speed and stability.
For detailed instructions of each step check the FAQs and guides in the Hero Development section
Yeah I do understand that it will take some time etc for finding roms and all. I've earlier installed custom roms on older windows mobile devices
Anyone can recommend a froyo rom then? It should be faster than a 2.1 rom I would guess. I can live without sense
Floyo 1.2.0 and Flykernal 12-pre2 would be a good place to start your testing then.
Also look into FroydVillain 1.7.2 or even CyanogenMod-6.1, which most non-Sense ROMs will be based on.
Have fun
Hi to all XDA members,
Got an X10a with Global 2.0.2.A.0.24 rooted with Dual Touch....
i want to change my ROM to a custom ROM.....
I went to XPERIA X10 Android Development sub-forum and found lots and lots of customed ROM.......
so i want to know and have suggestions which is the best custom (2.1)ROM for X10a which has least bug(rather say no bug) and can work blazing fast......
Also Is it possible that Flash (adobe flash) can be pushed in to 2.1 ???...... can it be done ?
" I m really sorry if this is re-post since i tried to find it on X10 Q&A sub forum didnt got any such details "
i'm Using Eminence and installed Eternity 2 in my friends X10 and i vote for Eternity 2 . it's more faster and easier and jit included.
pick one you like.
I recommend eminence v1.2
I'm obviously biased, but check out kX10: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913610
Why bother with a 2.1 rom when free10x has a working camera and is a million times better than any 2.1 rom? Get with the times
If you want something stable, use the modded SE roms like Eternity or X10iUser's rom. ( Basically Sony's normal 2.1, with some theming and tweaking; no Flash on these ones )
If you want to experiment with the newer Android versions, I'd suggest using Z's FreeX10 2.2 b2. However, this rom is still under beta stage, most of the functions work, but there will definitely be some glitches here and there. ( FreeX10 2.2 is capable of Flash 10.1 )
PS: do everyone a favour and make sure you READ all the info of that rom before posting in the dev section.
Best of luck.
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Why bother with a 2.1 rom when free10x has a working camera and is a million times better than any 2.1 rom? Get with the times
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True, the >2.1 ROMs are nice, but I completely rely on my phone. There's still too many bugs, and they aren't 100% stable. Plus I see no benefit other than Flash, which is not a benefit to me.
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True, the >2.1 ROMs are nice, but I completely rely on my phone. There's still too many bugs, and they aren't 100% stable. Plus I see no benefit other than Flash, which is not a benefit to me.
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I have not had a single reboot or issue whatsoever.. I have found it to be 100% stable..
Well if you consider having your quadrant score nearly double (mine is 1500+ now, was like 800 before), not to mention the far superior memory management of froyo, I think you'll see there are far more benefits than just flash. Do some research on it..
Well i use Eternity, and I love it, and its blazing fast with no problems
I would highly recommend that if you go for 2.1,
I can't say anything about the 2.2, because i'm holding back until the video capture works correctly (i think that the only problem now, right? or was that fixed?)
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Well i use Eternity, and I love it, and its blazing fast with no problems
I would highly recommend that if you go for 2.1,
I can't say anything about the 2.2, because i'm holding back until the video capture works correctly (i think that the only problem now, right? or was that fixed?)
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higher battery consuming (around 20 hours) - Many Apps FC Specially Task Managers - other small bugs . Z Did a Great Job in his FW but still not completely stable .....as a smartphones user who likes to show his X10 to his friends you don't want to see your x10 reboots more than 1 time per a day. It's annoying . Once the camcorder is implemented and these bugs are fixed i will directly install the 2.2 fw on my smartphone . I'm Really Excited .
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higher battery consuming (around 20 hours) - Many Apps FC Specially Task Managers - other small bugs . Z Did a Great Job in his FW but still not completely stable .....as a smartphones user who likes to show his X10 to his friends you don't want to see your x10 reboots more than 1 time per a day. It's annoying . Once the camcorder is implemented and these bugs are fixed i will directly install the 2.2 fw on my smartphone . I'm Really Excited .
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You don't need task managers or killers with froyo, they have issues even on official froyo. Read up in it.
I have not have even one reboot.. also the battery consumption is actually better than 2.1 due to the better memory management.
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I have not had a single reboot or issue whatsoever.. I have found it to be 100% stable..
Well if you consider having your quadrant score nearly double (mine is 1500+ now, was like 800 before), not to mention the far superior memory management of froyo, I think you'll see there are far more benefits than just flash. Do some research on it..
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I didn't mean to offend you. I have read up on it, and while the higher Quadrant scores are nice, I didn't see any real-life performance improvements over a tweaked 2.1. Maybe others do, I don't know. I'm just saying that for me, I would rather have a rock solid ROM than a few bells and whistles.
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higher battery consuming (around 20 hours) - Many Apps FC Specially Task Managers - other small bugs . Z Did a Great Job in his FW but still not completely stable .....as a smartphones user who likes to show his X10 to his friends you don't want to see your x10 reboots more than 1 time per a day. It's annoying . Once the camcorder is implemented and these bugs are fixed i will directly install the 2.2 fw on my smartphone . I'm Really Excited .
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That's exactly why I can't use 2.2 as a daily ROM. If they ever get 2.2 or 2.3 out of beta, I will definitely use that instead of 2.1.
fiscidtox said:
You don't need task managers or killers with froyo, they have issues even on official froyo. Read up in it.
I have not have even one reboot.. also the battery consumption is actually better than 2.1 due to the better memory management.
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Everyone's experiences will vary.
Hi
what is the difference between froyo 2.2 and gingerbred comparing everything and comparing with 2.1 as well
Its a very basic question i want to ask dont kill me as i am new in that.
thanks
it's a updated that include fix to the software to improve it or get more stability, or add some characteristics. Between the 2.2 and 2.3 I can say that the major point that improve is about the speed.
Pd. You can see this video to have a better idea of the characterisitcs of Gingerbread (2.3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3pdWBlZ34
a headache of problems for the devs lol
lol yes ^^^^
But seriously, every new version adds speed. 2.3 is faster then 2.2 and I don't think there are any major new features of 2.3, but correct me if I'm wrong.
for your basic question ill give you a basic answer.
the numbers
The main focus for speed improvements for 2.3 as far as I understand is for video games.
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2.3 has an awesome screen on/off animation that is really fun to show off
have a read here
Hey guys im a Newbie here and Im thinking about buying Ace and thus would like to ask some questions about it first..
If I upgrade the firmware to the latest KPH 2.3.4 are there any problems in that firmware?
If I want to revert back to original Froyo then is it possible?If yes then where can i download the original Firmware?
Is 384 amount of Ram sufficient?I mean are there any lags or hiccups if many apps are running?
Is the 800Mhz CPU fast enough i mean is the UI snappy under it?
Are there any Custom ROMS available for Ace?If Yes which one is the fastest/snappiest?
That will be all
Thank You
The 2.3.4 update has small wifi bugs.
You could revert to 2.2 froyo with a flashtool and the firmware is provided in Samfirmware.com
The ram is good in froyo but in gingerbread there're appkills in background when you play games.
800mhz is quite snappy but if you're big on performance then you'll have to go for expensive phones like galaxy s or s2, nexus, or htc high-ends.
The development section of the phone is rather young so custom roms are not that far from stock firmware as yet, but the phone has potential. If you're looking for a medium-spec phone this may be a good choice.
Thank me if I helped in any way in your decision
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consegregate said:
The 2.3.4 update has small wifi bugs.
You could revert to 2.2 froyo with a flashtool and the firmware is provided in Samfirmware.com
The ram is good in froyo but in gingerbread there're appkills in background when you play games.
800mhz is quite snappy but if you're big on performance then you'll have to go for expensive phones like galaxy s or s2, nexus, or htc high-ends.
The development section of the phone is rather young so custom roms are not that far from stock firmware as yet, but the phone has potential. If you're looking for a medium-spec phone this may be a good choice.
Thank me if I helped in any way in your decision
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Ohkay thanks for a early reply
So Froyo is lighter compared to Gingerbread?
And is Code.ROMv1 good rom?
What about Villian Rom?
are these faster compared to KPH?
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Ohkay thanks for a early reply
So Froyo is lighter compared to Gingerbread?
And is Code.ROMv1 good rom?
What about Villian Rom?
are these faster compared to KPH?
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Coderom is great mainly because of the darktremor app2sd support, extending the memory for app download. Villianrom is lightweight so I guess it should be faster than stock KPH..
I'll still prefer stock froyo if not for the app2sd support in coderom (am using that now)