Hi, We are pleased to release Totem Star Lite free on Window Mobile.
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Guide the destiny of your tribe through the stars! An addictive star matching game above a Native American desert sunset. Lasso stars of similar shape or colour, or combine them in an almost infinite variety of patterns. Pick your star combinations wisely to achieve the highest score possible!
Features
Easy to pick up, yet deep gameplay
Dozens of combos to discover
Evocative sunset dreamscapes
Download it at touchdimensions.com
Cool thanks downloading it now, will try when i get home
regards
hungry81
I just tried it out on my TP2. It's a great game and I found it quite fun
Hi!
Thanks so much for the support! Did you manage to figure out all the possible combinations? We're wondering if it's more fun to let people discover them by themselves, or if we should post a comprehensive list...
Any suggestions on how to make it better would be most welcome!
one of the best games I've ever played on my Diamond! congratulations!
I have two suggestions:
- can you avoid that the stars are showed in the Higscoretext? Its really hard to see them there or to see the colors (for me)
- can you add a "colorblind" mode? (I am colorblind, but don't worry, I could play the game now for more than an hour )
Thank you for that great game!
Great Game!
I have a little request. Is it possible to ad a option in the Settings to mute the sound.
So I can listen to a audiobook and play your fantastic game!
wow.. at first i was like " ahh whatever ill try this its probably crap" but i started playing and ended up playing for a while.. very addictive.. great game man... on my first time playing i got a 102544 is that good?
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... on my first time playing i got a 102544 is that good?
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On my first tries I only got 50.835
i think you guys are right with your comments...the stars showing up in the highscore is tough (I just match by color when that happens) and mute would be a nice addition (my wife just yelled at me for it). Regardless, pretty nice game. Here's a little love http://www.fuzemobility.com/dream-catcherthe-game/
Mod edit: No warez!
Nice game..
Hi!
We're really glad you guys like it!
tomoffel (colourblind mode)> Oh dear, I guess we didn't count on that-- right now we're allowing people to match on colour OR on shape, so maybe we should put something else besides colour to match on, like maybe a number to stand in for colour. I'm not sure if that would look great, but at least it'll help folks who might be having a bit of trouble telling the colours apart...
tomoffel & bugsykoosh (stars appearing in bonus)> Oops, my bad! We'll post a patch soon which prevents stars from appearing in that area.
KUR0I & bugsykoosh (mute function)> We could definitely add a mute function! Do you think you would need to toggle the sound on and off frequently? We could put a button in the corner of the play screen, but that eats up real estate-- it's already a bit cramped! Otherwise we'll add an option screen to the menu and stick it somewhere in there.
Sorry if the music's a bit repetitive, it's hard to find a long stretch of nice music to purchase without it becoming too expensive, so we bought a loop and put it on repeat...
Perhaps we could work on add an option to play songs from your playlist!
i think adding it to the option screen at the beginning would work. And using your own MP3s would really be sweet
Option screen at the beginning would be perfect. But it should save the setting, for next start.
Own mp3 isn't necessary, cause we can use our Players at the same time playing. By the way I like the song.
One little suggestion: Maybe you can think about making the stars a little bit bigger. In the darkness at home it's all fine, but it's a little bit hard to detect the different shapes of the stars in daylight or on a bumpy bustrip.
Could you tell us, what a good Highscore is?
KUR0I & bugsykoosh> It's nice that you like the song, because we spent hours listening (and then arguing) about which one to buy: heh, vindication!
I guess we'll build in the MP3 selection sometime, but I figure we should fix the stuff mentioned in the previous post first and release a new patch quickly-- it's great if you could use your players in the meantime!
jok3sta & KUR0I (high score)> Actually, I'm not entirely sure what a good highscore is yet-- we don't have that much data, and we're still balancing the game: statistically more probable combinations of stars warrant a lower bonus, but beyond that we also want to reward creativity in figuring out new combos (as well as having to make longer lassoes!)
So far I thought I was doing pretty well when I hit 80,000 as a highscore, so jok3sta, you're amazing! and uh, KUR0I, I think you're doing pretty decently still!
Someone reported that they managed to keep clearing all stars other than a single colour, and managed to get a super 'ALL CLEAR!' bonus by clearing the sky in 1 sweep! Colour matches tend to give higher scores than shape matches (5 shapes vs 7 colours), and triplets of pairs of shapes or colours tend to be less rewarding.
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At the same time, we also realise that while 'Dreamcatcher' is kind of cool and reflects the Native American theme, it's totally lost on web searches. We're thinking of changing the name to 'Totem Star', 'Spirit Skies', 'Star Harvest' or, 'Star Catcher', which uh, sounds a little bit too sci-fi. (Yes, I know we've totally conflated a whole bunch of Native American motifs, but hey, they've got a really cool culture that we admire!)
Which one do you think sounds the coolest?
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In the meantime, if you've checked www.touchdimensions.com, we're also working on a new game called 'Autumn Dynasty', an ink-brush strategy game!
We're hoping to put up an alpha version for this on the phone as well, but we acknowledge that the game could be a bit more intensive in terms of requirements, and could take a while more to arrive...
Here are some videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fUlFsyuaCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdjLuysuG1M
Hope you guys might find this interesting too!
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Hi!
We're really glad you guys like it!
tomoffel (colourblind mode)> Oh dear, I guess we didn't count on that-- right now we're allowing people to match on colour OR on shape, so maybe we should put something else besides colour to match on, like maybe a number to stand in for colour. I'm not sure if that would look great, but at least it'll help folks who might be having a bit of trouble telling the colours apart...
tomoffel & bugsykoosh (stars appearing in bonus)> Oops, my bad! We'll post a patch soon which prevents stars from appearing in that area.
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I just played with the forms and that colors I can see/differ, and its really fun to play!
normally other games use forms instead of colors in colorblind mode, thats not possible in that game, so I think numbers are the best solution too.
(how about make them "blinking" in different frequency/rate? just a thought)
And KUR0I is right.. a little bigger would be good, and no integrated music player is needed, we all have s2p or wmp an our phones
thank you, waiting for the patch to keep stars away from the highscore
I like the music too, but yesterday night I turned the whole phone silent, so I haven't hear it.
"Spirit Skies" sounds cool, "Totem Star" also but I like Dreamcatcher the most!
fernfreak said:
In the meantime, if you've checked www.touchdimensions.com, we're also working on a new game called 'Autumn Dynasty', an ink-brush strategy game!
We're hoping to put up an alpha version for this on the phone as well, but we acknowledge that the game could be a bit more intensive in terms of requirements, and could take a while more to arrive...
Here are some videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fUlFsyuaCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdjLuysuG1M
Hope you guys might find this interesting too!
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Only one Word: Fantastic!
After the first Seconds I thought: "A Okami RTS"! Great!
The presentation is awesome and the Soundtrack is grandiose!
But I'm afraid, that the little VGA-Screen of the Touch Pro could be a little bit to small for it. Please say, that I'm wrong!
I would like to see both of your projects on the wiiware-channel.
The Pointer would be perfect for it.
I would buy it instantly!
Autumn Dynasty could be a real contender for the fantastic "World of Goo!
Hi guys,
I was wondering, is the 3.5 Net Framework really necessary to get this running? Can the 2.0 libraries work? I only ask because I'm still using 2.0.
Cheers.
Wow autumn dynasty looks awesome! hope that works for my touch pro 2..
another suggestion for Dream catcher, maybe you can add some sort of online registry of high scores.. Like it would automatically send the scores to a database so we can compare..
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wow.. at first i was like " ahh whatever ill try this its probably crap" but i started playing and ended up playing for a while.. very addictive.. great game man... on my first time playing i got a 102544 is that good?
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That is great, My personal high score is only 76688
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Hi guys,
I was wondering, is the 3.5 Net Framework really necessary to get this running? Can the 2.0 libraries work? I only ask because I'm still using 2.0.
Cheers.
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For now yes, but we prob review it again after Windows Mobile 6.5 launch, They promise they would take care of the .Net 3.5 installation.
Downloading now for my HTC Touch Pro 2! Thanks!!
edit : Fantastic app! When I exit thought the music continues to play and I have to reset the phone. Other than that its great!
Related
Tiny Wings Bounce you play as the bird who cant fly because he is too fat. However press anywhere on the lower and middle of screen and he can bounce.Collect yellow coins to add time on the timer , collect blue coins to add double yellow coins time to the timer. Windows mobile WVGA 800x480 resolution. For smooth performance turn off othe running apps.
Features:
Highscore save to challenge yourself over and over.
Background color changes to reflect time is running out.
Catchy music and sound-effects.
How to play
Tap anywhere on the screen to bounce
If you collect a yellow coin , tap again to do double and triple jumps.
Extra: If anyone can make a good video put it on youtube and here , I will send you a computer version you can play on your PC.
Original Tiny Wings game made by Andreas illger for iphone.
So what type of highscores does everyone have? 40,000 , 50,000 or 100,000 . I look forward to seeing screenshots posted.
Hi, I will get the ball rolling. After playing this addicting game for a while, my highest score thus far is 63,010 points.
Edit: My new high score is 84,170 points.
http://www.andreasilliger.com/
I hope you got permission for that audio.
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http://www.andreasilliger.com/
I hope you got permission for that audio.
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Well I got the audio from a video not his website. I love when people somehow become police around here. Iam not selling the game but providing freeware. I love it !!! I make a freeware game and someone always comes with copywrite stuff all the time.
Look Iam making games so that when people get bored they can play for FREE. Its not like Iam making a million dollars ripping someone off!!! Iam making zero,$0,nada,nothing from this game. I swear people start this non-sense because they have no life.
Well I'm not gonna do anything about it, but someone else might; people are police around here cuz xda as a whole is trying to keep a clean professional rep. In general, mobile piracy happens mostly on forums, and xda doesn't want to be associated with that.
The least you could do is say "inspired by" and "music / noises by" in your first post, and provide a link to the iOS game...
Also, it's not nonsense; the US government (and most of the world for that matter) haven't yet decided how to handle copyright cases, and so there are a lot of unreasonable consequences forced upon the defendant. Even for petty cases, the courts and government turn a blind eye to illegal responses (and in excessive force) by companies "protecting" their content. Even in something as small as this, for your own good, cover your back.
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Well I'm not gonna do anything about it, but someone else might; people are police around here cuz xda as a whole is trying to keep a clean professional rep. In general, mobile piracy happens mostly on forums, and xda doesn't want to be associated with that.
The least you could do is say "inspired by" and "music / noises by" in your first post, and provide a link to the iOS game...
Also, it's not nonsense; the US government (and most of the world for that matter) haven't yet decided how to handle copyright cases, and so there are a lot of unreasonable consequences forced upon the defendant. Even for petty cases, the courts and government turn a blind eye to illegal responses (and in excessive force) by companies "protecting" their content. Even in something as small as this, for your own good, cover your back.
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So in your mind me using the music is equivelent to piracy. So how about all the
ROMs and android working on windows mobile , do you think thats legal?
If you didnt know Tiny Wings is an iphone game , which most people do , its not my fault.
Look at flash games that use mario or sonic , look at the internet as a whole. Piracy is giving away payed goods for free or making money off of someones work.
Obviously you dont even know the definition of Piracy if you think Iam a pirate Hahahahaha . Now thats too funny , also Mr.Andreas already knows about my port and doesnt care .
Freeware=Piracy LOL!!!
I do not think this is piracy, I merely pointed out that forums such as these are easily susceptible to unknowingly hosting several kinds of illicit data. If whatshisface is ok with it so be it, but I still think you should give him credit for the idea out of common decency.
I have not been attacking you at all, so stop being overly defensive.
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I do not think this is piracy, I merely pointed out that forums such as these are easily susceptible to unknowingly hosting several kinds of illicit data. If whatshisface is ok with it so be it, but I still think you should give him credit for the idea out of common decency.
I have not been attacking you at all, so stop being overly defensive.
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In a way you have been attacking him and continue too by calling his game illicit data.. are you an xda Mod? No i didn't think so, so stop trying to police this thread!! If you have a problem with it use the report button thats what it's there for!! Can you honestly sit there and say you wouldn't get defensive if you spent countless hours making fun games to share for FREE, then instead of getting thanked, all you get in return is "I hope you got permission for that audio."? Give OP a break, I'm sure if it was such a problem xda wouldn't allow him to continually share his works here!!
@ Op.. Thanks again for sharing all your fun games with us!!
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In a way you have been attacking him and continue too by calling his game illicit data.. are you an xda Mod? No i didn't think so, so stop trying to police this thread!! If you have a problem with it use the report button thats what it's there for!! Can you honestly sit there and say you wouldn't get defensive if you spent countless hours making fun games to share for FREE, then instead of getting thanked, all you get in return is "I hope you got permission for that audio."? Give OP a break, I'm sure if it was such a problem xda wouldn't allow him to continually share his works here!!
@ Op.. Thanks again for sharing all your fun games with us!!
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I am merely giving a friendly warning. Technically, it isn't legal even if it's non profit...
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I am merely giving a friendly warning. Technically, it isn't legal even if it's non profit...
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Again let xda deal with it if it's not legal! I still fail to see how your comment "I hope you got permission for that audio" translates to a so called friendly warning? You would have pm'ed him your message or would have worded it differently if your intent was to be friendly. To me it seems like your trying to start trouble here and get it removed.
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So how about all the
ROMs and android working on windows mobile , do you think thats legal?
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Also, yeah, this stuff is perfectly legal.
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Again let xda deal with it if it's not legal! I still fail to see how your comment "I hope you got permission for that audio" translates to a so called friendly warning? You would have pm'ed him your message or would have worded it differently if your intent was to be friendly. To me it seems like your trying to start trouble here and get it removed.
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Instead of "letting xda deal with it", you could, you know, give credit and cover your back so xda doesn't have to deal with it. If I were trying to get it removed, I would have actually done something. Talking to you guys about covering your backs isn't starting trouble...
Also, "friendly warning" = no repercussions. I'm warning him, I'm not calling him out on it or tipping off anyone. I'm not being nice about it either, because not giving credit to the author is very discourteous, legality aside.
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Instead of "letting xda deal with it", you could, you know, give credit and cover your back so xda doesn't have to deal with it. If I were trying to get it removed, I would have actually done something. Talking to you guys about covering your backs isn't starting trouble...
Also, "friendly warning" = no repercussions. I'm warning him, I'm not calling him out on it or tipping off anyone. I'm not being nice about it either, because not giving credit to the author is very discourteous, legality aside.
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No actually that would be warning = no repercussions. You claimed "friendly" when there's been nothing friendly about any of your posts in this thread. You're acting as if he took the original, resized it, and is now calling it his own or as if he owes you something. Like I said if it was such a problem xda would/could make appropriate changes not you!! You shared your views and gave your "friendly" warning to the op so move on already!!
I ,like many other users, appreciate the hard work and time OP puts into bringing us all these amazing games! So lets get this thread back on track.. Any new high scores out there??
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No actually that would be warning = no repercussions. You claimed "friendly" when there's been nothing friendly about any of your posts in this thread. You're acting as if he took the original, resized it, and is now calling it his own or as if he owes you something. Like I said if it was such a problem xda would/could make appropriate changes not you!! You shared your views and gave your "friendly" warning to the op so move on already!!
I ,like many other users, appreciate the hard work and time OP puts into bringing us all these amazing games! So lets get this thread back on track.. Any new high scores out there??
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Why don't you let OP fight his own battles, please?
Look Timmy Marsh is the Moderator for this forum. If he says its ok then its ok end of story.
1)This game is all over the internet , no problems as the developer Andreas knows about this game.
2)Also everybody knows about the iphone game that Andreas made. Its like angry birds , everyone knows who made that game.
3)I never ever said I originally made this game. All I say is I brought it here for everyone to enjoy.
So your one of the few people who are still waiting for developers to make iphone/ipod games for windows mobile6.1,6.5. Its never going to happen , we never gotten that type of support. XDA-developers was started because Micro-soft didnt give windows mobile proper support . I got sick and tired of not having games that I want on my phone , so now I make them. I share them here so other people can play too. ALL FREE! The reason I get upset is because people always complaining I stole someone works which is ridiculous.
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Look Timmy Marsh is the Moderator for this forum. If he says its ok then its ok end of story.
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I am not saying this is a rip off, or is stolen, or etc. But unless you acknowledge the source, you kind of give off that impression. That was my initial impression; and now I see that impression was wrong ONLY after we've had this argument. Which brings me to my next point;
The reason I get upset is because people always complaining I stole someone works which is ridiculous.
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Maybe if you posted a link to the original work, people would stop getting that idea. Just acknowledge the author or source some way, as standard procedure. If you clearly mention right off the bat; "This is a clone of the game [x] for the [y]" then no one will think you're hiding something, or covering it up.
"I never ever said I originally made this game. All I say is I brought it here for everyone to enjoy."
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While technically correct, this is misleading; if you have no problem admitting this is a clone, why not just say... this is a clone of [insert source here]? Don't be misleading, that arouses suspicion.
I never mis-lead anyone , how long have you been here? I have made Mario games, doodle jump,angry birds etc. Games everyone knows I didnt come up with myself. If you didnt know who made those big games by now I would be shocked!
Now the way you just carried on and keep going , Iam %100 sure you wanted to start a fight. The conversation is going no-where and what your saying right now is sounding real stupid. Your going to tell me people dont know who made Super Mario,doodle jump,angry birds, or tiny wings , thats a laugh.
Iam supposed to post a link to an iphone game that doesnt even run on windows mobile , are you serious? Thats the stupidest thing I heard yet , thanks for the laugh by the way. You said its legal to change ROMs and run Android on windows mobile shows me you dont even know what your talking about. Did you know Microsoft tried to shut down XDA because of ROM a long time ago? No you didnt. Did you know apple tried to sue when XDA had a iphone screen run on windows mobile? No you didnt. All you know is how to harrass me , hahahaha. Go make an original game post it here and show me how its done LOL.
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Your going to tell me people dont know who made Super Mario,doodle jump,angry birds, or tiny wings , thats a laugh.
Iam supposed to post a link to an iphone game that doesnt even run on windows mobile , are you serious?
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I know of super mario, but I have never heard of doodle jump or angry birds. I happen to know of tiny wings by chance; don't assume that everyone knows about a game just because of popularity. And I think we can safely assume that the users here know an iOS app won't run on their wm device, but that isn't the purpose of posting a link; listing the source for any work is just a standard and respectable practice... Your seniority in this forum doesn't change that fact, nor does it have anything to do with this argument...
I'm not going to address the rest of your comment, but I will say this; just because a company whines about something doesn't make it illegal (they probably wish it was). Those were accusations, nothing more.
I am not looking for a fight, I merely continued because I thought you would listen to reason, but apparently we just cannot agree on this point... and since you don't seem to be able to carry out an argument without resorting to ad hominem, I'm ending my involvement here.
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I agree with link68759 with the music, Andreas Illiger explicitly states that the Tiny Wings music "is not for use in other movies, games, tv shows, etc. and you should not earn any money with it or distribute it in any form."
http://youtu.be/NZ_t9cOIFzE
Made the video for my friend Jon to justify him buying it and excuse me trying to clear my nose a bit, was sick with a cold at the time of the video and it was difficult to breathe.
This is great! Any suggestions on how to get some of the features you're sporting here? e.g. the Honeycomb taskbar and the nifty backgrounds, etc?
This is honestly pretty cool.
I've been considering the nook tab myself.
I've really been hoping the devs can get ICS on it but, I'm still a a bit in limbo.
How much tweaking have you done to get your tab like that if you don't mind me asking?
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This is great! Any suggestions on how to get some of the features you're sporting here? e.g. the Honeycomb taskbar and the nifty backgrounds, etc?
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That the honeycomb launcher from syndicate apps and a few system apps I added.
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Indirect,
I would really like to know what keyboard that is that you're using. Thanks for the video.
I also made a quick video to show people how my NT is more than "just an e-reader" after a few mods. I made this and submitted it to an Android themed podcast called All About Android.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC60Kl4oVnQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
That is awesome.
Also, blow your nose.
150pilot said:
Indirect,
I would really like to know what keyboard that is that you're using. Thanks for the video.
I also made a quick video to show people how my NT is more than "just an e-reader" after a few mods. I made this and submitted it to an Android themed podcast called All About Android.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC60Kl4oVnQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Mine's cooler than yours lol. Anyway, it's the CrashNation Minimal Cyan keyboard found in the HTC Hero CDMA themes and apps section.
Indirect said:
Mine's cooler than yours lol. Anyway, it's the CrashNation Minimal Cyan keyboard found in the HTC Hero CDMA themes and apps section.
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Found something similar in Swiftkey for the time being.
Indirect,
Love your work. I owe just about everything I done with my NT to you. Thanks for all of your time & efforts.
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Hey Indirect, i noticed (obviously cause you pointed it out) you had Volume+ installed on your NT, how did you get it? When i tried to download it from the thread it said it was not compatible with my device. Did you just download the APK and install it anyway?
Also, nice looking NT and thanks for all the work you've done.
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Hey Indirect, i noticed (obviously cause you pointed it out) you had Volume+ installed on your NT, how did you get it? When i tried to download it from the thread it said it was not compatible with my device. Did you just download the APK and install it anyway?
Also, nice looking NT and thanks for all the work you've done.
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I used titanium backup to install and it's given me no issues except it uses speaker settings for headphones which is annoying. But that's it.
And thank you as well as no problem. I work hard to make your nooks look good and run even better.
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Indirect,
I would really like to know what keyboard that is that you're using. Thanks for the video.
I also made a quick video to show people how my NT is more than "just an e-reader" after a few mods. I made this and submitted it to an Android themed podcast called All About Android.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC60Kl4oVnQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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How did you get your go launcher to launch from the top right like that?
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This is kewl, but Im confused. So is the tablet now rooted? I am trying to decide between the color and the tablet. The one thing I like over the color is the built in "mic" so I could actually narrate a childrens book to my 6 year old daughter. So does this mean that we will soon be able to load roms like the color can now?
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How did you get your go launcher to launch from the top right like that?
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I pressed & held the icons on the launcher's dock until I was able to remove them from the dock and drag them off onto the middle of the screen temporarily. Then I had + icons in their place. I tapped the + icons and selected the "Blank" option. I deleted all of the icons except the "Apps" icon which I was able to drag around anywhere I wanted.
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I pressed & held the icons on the launcher's dock until I was able to remove them from the dock and drag them off onto the middle of the screen temporarily. Then I had + icons in their place. I tapped the + icons and selected the "Blank" option. I deleted all of the icons except the "Apps" icon which I was able to drag around anywhere I wanted.
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That really made it a thing of beauty. Thanks a ton.
Below you will find a link to some awesome keyboards and I believe it is also where indirect got his from.
Don't forget to change the permissions once you move the keyboard over into your /system/app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?=9862247
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That really made it a thing of beauty. Thanks a ton.
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I'd sure like a peek if you've got a screenshot.
randyreed1971 said:
This is kewl, but Im confused. So is the tablet now rooted? I am trying to decide between the color and the tablet. The one thing I like over the color is the built in "mic" so I could actually narrate a childrens book to my 6 year old daughter. So does this mean that we will soon be able to load roms like the color can now?
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The Nook Tablet is rooted, but it has a locked bootloader so custom ROMs are a no go at this point in time. And honestly, while it's possible that sometime in the future custom roms could be loaded, it's not worth betting your money on that feature (right now). Good people are putting in the effort, but the Nook Tablet is a tougher nut to crack than the Nook Color. Time will tell....
With all that said, you can pretty much do anything besides load custom roms on the tablet. With launchers and some apps that help tweak it you can get a very snappy little tablet. It just takes a little more tinkering right now to find your own happy place.
This is a hard decision! So going on the android market right now is a no go? But if you root it you can side load apps from the market? Can you surf the web with it right now the way it is? So what would you guys get? If they get past the bootloader problem, which I am sure they will, the only other advantage to the tablet besides the speed is the built in "mic" which later on could be used to talk while using the keyboard, (maybe) similar to the way a cell phone works? Just trying to weigh my options! Just trying to decide which one I want to get right now!
Can you side load the android market right now?
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This is a hard decision! So going on the android market right now is a no go? But if you root it you can side load apps from the market? Can you surf the web with it right now the way it is? So what would you guys get? If they get past the bootloader problem, which I am sure they will, the only other advantage to the tablet besides the speed is the built in "mic" which later on could be used to talk while using the keyboard, (maybe) similar to the way a cell phone works? Just trying to weigh my options! Just trying to decide which one I want to get right now!
Can you side load the android market right now?
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The market is fine for my uses. Apparently there are a few apps that don't show up but meh.
You can surf the web with the thing out of the box, no rooting or side loading required.
And yes the difference between the color and the tab is speed and the mic. The color is alright speedwise if you get a decent rom on it, and tweak it but it's still slow compared to the tab, even with B&N's relatively clunky interface. Also getting the color running at a decent pace takes a lot of effort, impacts battery life (think overclock) and it still has it's limits.
The bootloader is a huge issue though. If you want to run custom roms, i really can't recomend the tab.
If you just want to watch movies, surf the interwebs, or read books/comics/magazines, then I would highly recommend the tab. The nook color is a very special piece of hardware, but it's showing it's age with it's speed. The kindle fire might be better for hackers, but the display on the nook is...well...amazing. Take five minutes with a fire at target or something, then stop by B&N and play with the tab, you will see what i mean. The difference is huge.
To me the decision just came down to the display. The nook's is amazing, the fire's sucks. Since it's mostly a content consumption device, even if i was running custom firmware, the display is the most important part.
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This is a hard decision! So going on the android market right now is a no go? But if you root it you can side load apps from the market? Can you surf the web with it right now the way it is? So what would you guys get? If they get past the bootloader problem, which I am sure they will, the only other advantage to the tablet besides the speed is the built in "mic" which later on could be used to talk while using the keyboard, (maybe) similar to the way a cell phone works? Just trying to weigh my options! Just trying to decide which one I want to get right now!
Can you side load the android market right now?
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Once you get the market on the Nook Tablet, you can use the market to get your android apps. And yes, some apps don't show up in the market for one reason or another, but you can usually find ways around those issues and it's not a common thing from what I have seen.
For example, I had purchased the Slingplayer for my Android phone a few months ago. Once I rooted my tablet, got the market loaded, and signed in the market showed me Slingplayer all ready to download and install... and it works perfectly.
The biggest question you want to ask yourself is "What do I need the tablet to do?" If you consume a lot of Amazon content, the Fire is the choice. If you need a tablet that will go with custom roms sooner rather than later, then the Fire is a better bet. If you plan on loading a lot of your own content, or use the B&N content, then the Nook Tablet is going to be your choice. And finally if you don't mind tweaking a rooted tablet around the existing setup instead of needing custom roms or can be pretty patient in waiting, then you will do fine with a Nook. And just as an example, my Nook Tablet is going to end up replacing my iPad. I still have a couple of things to do to get it where I want it, but I'm pretty confident that's it is a perfect replacement for my iPad, even at this stage (rooted and tweaked by apps).
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The market is fine for my uses. Apparently there are a few apps that don't show up but meh.
You can surf the web with the thing out of the box, no rooting or side loading required.
And yes the difference between the color and the tab is speed and the mic. The color is alright speedwise if you get a decent rom on it, and tweak it but it's still slow compared to the tab, even with B&N's relatively clunky interface. Also getting the color running at a decent pace takes a lot of effort, impacts battery life (think overclock) and it still has it's limits.
The bootloader is a huge issue though. If you want to run custom roms, i really can't recomend the tab.
If you just want to watch movies, surf the interwebs, or read books/comics/magazines, then I would highly recommend the tab. The nook color is a very special piece of hardware, but it's showing it's age with it's speed. The kindle fire might be better for hackers, but the display on the nook is...well...amazing. Take five minutes with a fire at target or something, then stop by B&N and play with the tab, you will see what i mean. The difference is huge.
To me the decision just came down to the display. The nook's is amazing, the fire's sucks. Since it's mostly a content consumption device, even if i was running custom firmware, the display is the most important part.
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Thanks for the info, can we get some more
Is there a certain thread you followed to get your tablet to where it is now or would you be willing to put together some kind documentation to get the tablet like yours? Honestly, I'd (and a few others more then likely) would just need a set of steps we can follow... sorry for being a noob.
thanks in advance
So, I'm feeling a bit stupid for buying the Noot Tablet, and here are my reasons:
I actually bought the Fire first but really didn't like it and the Nook Tablet was much faster so I exchanged it. I figured that the faster device would get more attention from devs and might get an ICS port more quickly.
Now I learned that the KF already has an ICS port on the way and has had some experience with CyanogenMod, and we're stuck with...well...root? I'm very disappointed. Wanted to know if anyone could bring my hopes up a little...lol. I need a pick me up because I'm thinking I was a bit stupid for exchanging. Don't get me wrong, I love the NT, it's a great e-reader, web browser, and Netflix viewer, but that's about all it can do for me.
I should say that I have no idea what goes on in development because of the fact that I'm not a developer and don't aspire to be. I just try and follow instructions and give advice if I can with simple things. I'm sure the guys over there are hard at work getting something going, but I'm just disappointed, that's all.
I wouldn't say "stupid" - I'd say you made a decision based on what felt good to you at the time and on the information that was available to you. At this point, ... Yes, the KF has had a few more hurdles leaped, but the KF really wasn't an option for me.
The lack of SD card expansion was an EPIC failure IMHO. 8GB of total space is something that I couldn't deal with. I prefer the build of the NT over the KF also. It's all a matter of personal preference.
With my NT, I'm currently doing a lot of retro gaming (SNES, Genesis, N64, GBA, PSX, etc), browsing, chat, video streaming (Netflix & Plex FTW), HTPC control via RemoteDroid, light photo editing, & even do some of my real work from job w/ office apps, etc.
From reading the Dev threads, there's a lot of hope and there's a lot of (appreciated) hard work being put in, I figure least I can do is be patient & chill. I knew there was a shot the bootloader was locked before I bought it so I made my purchase based on that fact.
I hope you find happiness in your NT like I found in mine
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I wouldn't say "stupid" - I'd say you made a decision based on what felt good to you at the time and on the information that was available to you. At this point, ... Yes, the KF has had a few more hurdles leaped, but the KF really wasn't an option for me.
The lack of SD card expansion was an EPIC failure IMHO. 8GB of total space is something that I couldn't deal with. I prefer the build of the NT over the KF also. It's all a matter of personal preference.
With my NT, I'm currently doing a lot of retro gaming (SNES, Genesis, N64, GBA, PSX, etc), browsing, chat, video streaming (Netflix & Plex FTW), HTPC control via RemoteDroid, light photo editing, & even do some of my real work from job w/ office apps, etc.
From reading the Dev threads, there's a lot of hope and there's a lot of (appreciated) hard work being put in, I figure least I can do is be patient & chill. I knew there was a shot the bootloader was locked before I bought it so I made my purchase based on that fact.
I hope you find happiness in your NT like I found in mine
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I wouldn't say stupid either. I as well as other developers are hard at work on this. So good call being chill and patient. Think of us all working on this as saving up to buy a really kickass christmas present.
Anyway, yes, we are hard at work, and if you want a mid-end phone hardware device, get a kindle fire. If you want a real mans tablet, get the NT.
Edit: Holy crap! 800th post!
I'm pissed off about the bootloader too. But here's the thing.
You said you didn't like the kindle, and you love your NT.
You list the things that it excels at, and say you love those things. And then say that's all it can give you.
The implication being that somehow having ICS on your tablet will allow you to do more.
It won't ;-). It's still a 7" device with a touchscreen, limited processor, great battery life, and no keyboard or mouse. It's always only going to be good for internet, netflix, reading, some lightweight gaming, etc. Doesn't matter whether it's running ICS or B&N gingerbread.
Think about it this way. Do you use your actual computer for anything different with Windows 7 than you did when you had windows 98? I don't, it's still mostly video games, internets, and word processing etc.
If you love the NT, then just love it ;-). I love mine. The kindle has a super crap screen, no hardware bezel to ease holding it, no hardware "n" button, worse battery, it's not as snappy, etc. Sure I'm not running cm7 or ics which kinda sucks, because they are shiny and i want, but the differences above are way more important to me than having a prettier menu button.
Plus someone is going to get around to getting around the bootloader and we are golden, even if it's later than sooner.
>Was I stupid?
Not were. Are. For asking a bunch of strangers how you should spend your own damn money. Sorry, but we don't do group therapy here. Try this other link,
http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx13t.htm
>I need a pick me up
Try bungee jumping. For a real rush, do it without the bungee.
OK fine. In the spirit of the holidays, I officially feel sorry for you.
Group hug for all insecure wimps.
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I don't know why ICS is so alluring.
It'd be nice, in the same sense that anything brand new is exciting and nice... but for me right now... the Nook itself is satisfying that craving.
With root, Go Launcher, Home Catcher, google calendar/market, android market, mx player, and psx4droid... it has become a fantastic device for me to travel with or relax with on the couch while watching TV.
What is ICS even going to give me that I don't already have? Bugs? Lack of network use like the Fire? My Nook is great the way it is.
>I don't know why ICS is so alluring.
I do. It's called tech lust. We all want new stuff, especially the ones that aren't yet available. Once they are, then they're old news and time to lust for the next one.
Same old story for Froy, GB, HC, and now ICS. In 3 months, it'll be JB.
Kind of like seeing a pic of a hot celeb. Then one day you see her on the street without her make-up and it's like HOLY CRAP what happened to half of your face?!
Reality sucks. New toys are best when they aren't real.
AugustusBot said:
I don't know why ICS is so alluring.
It'd be nice, in the same sense that anything brand new is exciting and nice... but for me right now... the Nook itself is satisfying that craving.
With root, Go Launcher, Home Catcher, google calendar/market, android market, mx player, and psx4droid... it has become a fantastic device for me to travel with or relax with on the couch while watching TV.
What is ICS even going to give me that I don't already have? Bugs? Lack of network use like the Fire? My Nook is great the way it is.
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Applications that have tablet interfaces typically only expose those interfaces to honeycomb and ics devices. In addition, ics is built from the ground up for tablets by adding things like software buttons and 360 rotation as well as built-in rotation lock. The application switcher is miles better and only ics fully supports multiple cores and interface acceleration on the gpu.
There are numerous technical reasons to want ics.
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>I don't know why ICS is so alluring.
I do. It's called tech lust. We all want new stuff, especially the ones that aren't yet available. Once they are, then they're old news and time to lust for the next one.
Same old story for Froy, GB, HC, and now ICS. In 3 months, it'll be JB.
Kind of like seeing a pic of a hot celeb. Then one day you see her on the street without her make-up and it's like HOLY CRAP what happened to half of your face?!
Reality sucks. New toys are best when they aren't real.
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You have some disturbing pictures!
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The implication being that somehow having ICS on your tablet will allow you to do more.
It won't ;-).
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This. ICS is getting a lot of hype from geeks who like modifying things, and want the latest and greatest. That's pretty much it. It's still a media tablet that is faster, nicer to use, gets better battery than the direct, current competition. Enjoy it for what it is,. and watch these forums for advances! Did you buy it to watch videos, read, play android games, etc? Yes? Ok then you can still do that. For the tablet focused applications, Honeycomb* is what you want/will be enough/might get updated anyway soon.
I agree with e.mote. Buying the NT wasn't stupid, especially after direct comparisons. Starting a thread asking others to help make up your mind on something and regretting it based on forum hype WAS stupid
*I thought this was just a random rumor on XDA posted by one person but I checked around some and it seems as if a ton of tablets are getting honeycomb updates this winter, and some of it is due to netflix recently adding honeycomb support and redesigning their software specifically to take advantage of features in honeycomb, soo..... it's possible.
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This. ICS is getting a lot of hype from geeks who like modifying things, and want the latest and greatest. That's pretty much it. It's still a media tablet that is faster, nicer to use, gets better battery than the direct, current competition. Enjoy it for what it is,. and watch these forums for advances! Did you buy it to watch videos, read, play android games, etc? Yes? Ok then you can still do that. For the tablet focused applications, Honeycomb* is what you want/will be enough/might get updated anyway soon.
I agree with e.mote. Buying the NT wasn't stupid, especially after direct comparisons. Starting a thread asking others to help make up your mind on something and regretting it based on forum hype WAS stupid
*I thought this was just a random rumor on XDA posted by one person but I checked around some and it seems as if a ton of tablets are getting honeycomb updates this winter, and some of it is due to netflix recently adding honeycomb support and redesigning their software specifically to take advantage of features in honeycomb, soo..... it's possible.
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If they update to HC, we lose root with no real way to root again aside from an unbrickable mod then flashing a new bootloader then finding a software exploit. :|
Nah. I preordered the fire at first but ultimately went for the noot. Once it's rooted, it's a good device(not being able to save files without a microsd card aside).
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If they update to HC, we lose root with no real way to root again aside from an unbrickable mod then flashing a new bootloader then finding a software exploit. :|
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Right, for a while Ideally users here will have advance warning or a way to not automatically update. At worst, likely wait for a way to reroot it. At really worst, sideload the stuff you want (to be honest, I'm happy doing the things I want on it with sideloaded apps - but I'm also not on the new OS now now now bandwagon, and the current tablet runs well for my needs (reading, browsing, video, comics mostly). Like what am I going to want to try doing on a NT? Re-encoding video files? Noooo... (Had a friend doing this on an iPad, trying to see how hot things would get or how bad the battery got. Brilliant.)
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If they update to HC, we lose root with no real way to root again aside from an unbrickable mod then flashing a new bootloader then finding a software exploit. :|
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My blind faith tells me that the current way of blocking updates will work
(btw, this means nothing IRL)
I will rely on that and my faith that you will come up with a way to root my nook after the next update
I just got the "New IPad" and I have to say that I am not impressed at all. I have never used IOS before and it sucks Android on the Prime is what is going on, for real, and to be honest you cant even tell all that much the screen resolution difference it isn't that drastic! The New Ipad does look cleaner I will give it that but its just boring , so far its went something like this - Go to App Store find app ........... Wait (put in password-what)for an App to download ......... takes forever ......... Done finally ........ Play or use app. Why do the apps take so long to download then you have to type in your pass every time you download an app, that's crazy. I like my freedom, I heard it was hacked already I don't know how much freedom that will bring. No customization at all, I don't know if I wanna keep this thing or not. The Prime is way better so that's coming from someone that owns both. Get a Prime or just ............. Boring so far at least.
I didn't get a chance to try it out at the store because Walmart keeps them behind glass where I live. So i guess there to precious to touch, unlike all the androids that are out too display, use and try them out at will. It was the last one of the IPads so I figured I would buy it and if I didn't like it I would take it back haven't decided yet of course I'm going to give it a few days to see if I like it at all. So far I think it will see Walmart again. Here are some Pics I took side by side.
GAME SIDE BY SIDE MESSED UP AND HAD PRIME IN BATTERY SAVE, RUNNING @ 1GHZ MODE FOR AWHILE INSTEAD OF PERFORMANCE MODE 1.3GHZ - DONT EXPECT GAMESPOT QUALITY - FIRST COMPARISON VIDEO EVER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqyG_-4mI9M
BOTH ARE TURNED UP FULL BRIGHTNESS
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ONLY GAME I GOT RIGHT NOW THEY TAKE FOREVER TO DOWNLOAD
Wouldn't it have been better just to try one out in store and watch reviews online instead of buying it?
This really didn't need its own thread. Should have posted it in the Android VS Competition thread. Keep clutter down please.
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What kind of customization are you looking for? I never could understand the amount of time people spent staring at their widgets on the home screen.
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I didn't get a chance to try it out at the store because Walmart keeps them behind glass where I live. So i guess there to precious to touch, unlike all the androids that are out too display, use and try them out at will. It was the last one of the IPads so I figured I would buy it and if I didn't like it I would take it back haven't decided yet of course I'm going to give it a few days to see if I like it at all. So far I think it will see Walmart again. Here are some Pics I took side by side.
So what are your complaints about either of the devices anyways?
Great, you have a Galaxy Note as well . I've got all the three devices as well. Unfortunately, my Prime doesn't get too much usages, since I bought Note.
I have a good prime now except for Wifi and BT together sometimes goes out. Gonna get that fixed hopefully. But I get really good download speeds all around the house with the prime. I just wanted to try the IPad out because I have never owned one before so I figured I would give it a try. I don't just sit and stare at widgets though, you must be talking about someone else but they are nice to have, don't you agree? As you can tell I don't have my Prime all set up yet with widgets and all that other stuff. It just feels more comfortable to operate, but like I said this is my first IOS go, so it might get better, who knows? I'm only giving my INITIAL IMPRESSIONS of IOS and my experience with Android Initially was better, that's all!!!
I might pull my Prime out and see how many widgets I can put on the front page. Hell I might put Widgets on every page, nothing but all widgets, actually that might look nice. At least I know it would have the horsepower to operate in that fashion.
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Great, you have a Galaxy Note as well . I've got all the three devices as well. Unfortunately, my Prime doesn't get too much usages, since I bought Note.
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The note is sweeet I love it its perfect. tablet and phone with widgets. lol/jk it does have a really nice screen also. Did you root your note yet. If so what rom are you running? I cant decide yet just got it too. Oh the note is only turned up about half brightness by the way, it probably has the best display of all three. Today was a good day!
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What kind of customization are you looking for? I never could understand the amount of time people spent staring at their widgets on the home screen.
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The widgets and customization are important for how useful they make the device to each individual user. I don't know about everyone else, but I have my home screens setup in such a way as to provide all of my necessary information available at a glance, along with widgets that allow me to do things like create new notes, create tasks, etc. with a single tap.
I don't spend a great deal of time staring at the widgets. Quite the opposite, in fact. Just a quick glance shows me everything I need to know. Getting at that same info on an iPad would require a whole bunch of tap icon, open app, tap home button, tap icon, open app, tap home button, tap button, open app, tap home button, rinse, repeat, over and over.
Tedious and inefficient...
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I don't spend a great deal of time staring at the widgets. Quite the opposite, in fact. Just a quick glance shows me everything I need to know. Getting at that same info on an iPad would require a whole bunch of tap icon, open app, tap home button, tap icon, open app, tap home button, tap button, open app, tap home button, rinse, repeat, over and over.
Tedious and inefficient...
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Right they are good to look and see what info you think is important real quick without interning into a program and the tap tap tap stuff. I personally would rather save my time take a quick look oh it's looking nice tomorrow and the next couple days, I'm running at good temps, My clock speed is what I want, I see my news flashes, etc. widgets widgets widgets man!
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The widgets and customization are important for how useful they make the device to each individual user. I don't know about everyone else, but I have my home screens setup in such a way as to provide all of my necessary information available at a glance, along with widgets that allow me to do things like create new notes, create tasks, etc. with a single tap.
I don't spend a great deal of time staring at the widgets. Quite the opposite, in fact. Just a quick glance shows me everything I need to know. Getting at that same info on an iPad would require a whole bunch of tap icon, open app, tap home button, tap icon, open app, tap home button, tap button, open app, tap home button, rinse, repeat, over and over.
Tedious and inefficient...
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Exactly. I don't understand how Gary just thinks people sit there and stare at them. I personally have news, weather and gmail widgets. It's nice to not have to launch three apps to get a quick glance at everything. I can just scroll through the gmail widget and see if there are even emails I need to read and the same goes with news articles.
Widgets are interactive not just static, just much quicker to do the menial tasks.
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I just got the "New IPad" and I have to say that I am not impressed at all. I have never used IOS before and it sucks Android on the Prime is what is going on, for real, and to be honest you cant even tell all that much the screen resolution difference it isn't that drastic! The New Ipad does look cleaner I will give it that but its just boring , so far its went something like this - Go to App Store find app ........... Wait (put in password-what)for an App to download ......... takes forever ......... Done finally ........ Play or use app. Why do the apps take so long to download then you have to type in your pass every time you download an app, that's crazy. I like my freedom, I heard it was hacked already I don't know how much freedom that will bring. No customization at all, I don't know if I wanna keep this thing or not. The Prime is way better so that's coming from someone that owns both. Get a Prime or just ............. Boring so far at least.
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The customization you'll get from jail breaking is pretty much themeing and it slows the device down, there's no way to get more performance out of it. The things you'll be able to do once jail broken, you can do more on unrooted android..
I guess since development started slow people are second guessing? Believe me, things are coming, things are being worked on. That's just me, 40+hrs a week construction slows things down, im sure theres others like me. Check my git, stuff is slowly being added to my kernel. After that, aosp w/ some things.
>I personally have news, weather and gmail widgets. It's nice to not have to launch three apps to get a quick glance at everything.
How often do you need to check on news/mail/weather?
I check the weather once a day; mail, about once every couple of hours; news, never. If I want to read news, I'll fire up the browser.
It's a preference. I personally view widgets that have constantly updated content a distraction. Neither do I like live wallpaper. I'm a minimalist who dislikes eye candy.
iPad's lack of multitasking is a weakness, but is also a strength, depending how it's used. On a mobile device, multitasking isn't as important. iOS obviously is very responsive, is arguably more stable, and with a simple UI for anyone to navigate. I wouldn't hand an Android tab to my non-tech parents, at least not without tutoring them in its use.
Each platform has its fortes and foibles.
BTW, as a public service for Prime users, consider this a request to the mod to close this thread.
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The customization you'll get from jail breaking is pretty much themeing and it slows the device down, there's no way to get more performance out of it. The things you'll be able to do once jail broken, you can do more on unrooted android..
I guess since development started slow people are second guessing? Believe me, things are coming, things are being worked on. That's just me, 40+hrs a week construction slows things down, im sure theres others like me. Check my git, stuff is slowly being added to my kernel. After that, aosp w/ some things.
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+1 most kiddies on here think it takes 15minutes to prepare and cook and bake a rom/kernel/theme and it really pisses off some devs out there.
Ok I had to respond. I too own a Transformer Prime, new iPad and a ATT galaxy note. You can't honestly say you can't see a difference between screens. The iPads screen to me "27 YO Old 20/20 eyes" is farrrr crisper and clear. It seriously looks magazine page printed clear. Now before people get all hot in the pants I love my Prime too. But posting pictures or viewing a video over the web of course you aren't to be able to tell. All three devices have Pros and cons. Maybe if you had a super high end camera you could see the difference.
As a Prime owner for 2 months I was blown away by the new iPads screens as far as text clarity, zero light bleed, and very accurate color calibration and saturation. The note has the best color saturation but sometimes it looks overblown in movies. People's skin look pinkish etc. Wish I had the international version, you can change the picture mode like movie, standard etc. But the blacks on the Super Amoled are crushing the iPads LCD screen. So resolution isn't everything.
All three devices have their purpose. I haven't used a iPad since the 1st generation, and using it for a few days am impressed with its super snappiness, very fluid UI etc. So if your a person who likes to change your widgets, icon layout, live wallpapers than obviously the iPad isn't for you.
I bought it for the GF and play with it time to time. Especially using the direct tv guide app that android doesn't have yet. It's nice not getting hang up, or freezes or forces closes. But stil love the Prime and my Note. What the iPad is built to do, it does it well. I'll just say that.
And of course so does the Prime but it ultimately boils down to user preference. Not everyone like my GF needs to over clock, or add a custom rom etc...
One thing I've noticed that I like the iPad over the prime more is web browsing it the 4:3 ratio. Less scrolling and more content on the page. But.... Obviously the Prime wins for videos with its 16:10 and 16:9 ratio. But I only really use YouTube on my note, prime and iPad. The workhorse is my Samsung D8000 Plasma.
Please no ripping me, I gave honest non biased points. Good post thought. Do what I did use both for about a week. Than see if you feel the same. I too planned to return the iPad if we didn't like it. But I might hang onto it, along with my Prime. The GF wants too kill me, says I have too many gadgets. Prime, Note and iPad lol.
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>I personally have news, weather and gmail widgets. It's nice to not have to launch three apps to get a quick glance at everything.
How often do you need to check on news/mail/weather?
I check the weather once a day; mail, about once every couple of hours; news, never. If I want to read news, I'll fire up the browser.
It's a preference. I personally view widgets that have constantly updated content a distraction. Neither do I like live wallpaper. I'm a minimalist who dislikes eye candy.
iPad's lack of multitasking is a weakness, but is also a strength, depending how it's used. On a mobile device, multitasking isn't as important. iOS obviously is very responsive, is arguably more stable, and with a simple UI for anyone to navigate. I wouldn't hand an Android tab to my non-tech parents, at least not without tutoring them in its use.
Each platform has its fortes and foibles.
BTW, as a public service for Prime users, consider this a request to the mod to close this thread.
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Whether I check throughout the day as well as email. I ride a motorcycle and live in Texas where thunderstorms come out of nowhere sometimes. I also work as a software developer where my current role is support of production systems handling millions of dollars a day so I check email constantly. For the news its mostly tech blogs and like to just read the blurbs to decide if I want to read the full article or not.
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What kind of customization are you looking for? I never could understand the amount of time people spent staring at their widgets on the home screen.
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Well if you want to check your different updates (new mails on several accounts, agenda, twitter, facebook, news, weather, ... I could go on), you can see it all by just turning on your screen, instead of having to launch each app separately.
Also, it allows you to have widgets for shortcuts like switching wifi/bt/gps/... on and off with a single click, or anything else you might want to do without having to go through apps, menus, ....
If you don't see the advantage of that, then I can't help you..
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Well if you want to check your different updates (new mails on several accounts, agenda, twitter, facebook, news, weather, ... I could go on), you can see it all by just turning on your screen, instead of having to launch each app separately.
Also, it allows you to have widgets for shortcuts like switching wifi/bt/gps/... on and off with a single click, or anything else you might want to do without having to go through apps, menus, ....
If you don't see the advantage of that, then I can't help you..
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I usually add widgets just to add them on my note and prime. The weather and clock is more important to me.
Compared to iOS using toggles can be helpful for wifi,gps etc. but 8 out of 10 times I'll click the actual app icon lol.
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The note is sweeet I love it its perfect. tablet and phone with widgets. lol/jk it does have a really nice screen also. Did you root your note yet. If so what rom are you running? I cant decide yet just got it too. Oh the note is only turned up about half brightness by the way, it probably has the best display of all three. Today was a good day!
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Yes, I have it rooted (got the international version). I'm currently running Stunner ICS. Awesome ROM. Very stable and issue free.
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How often do you need to check on news/mail/weather?
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Well, obviously, if you define a scenario where such things are unimportant, then you're defining away the advantages of instant access to information. Now, most of the productive people I know need to have constant access to a wide variety of information, and indeed it's access to information that tablets (and indeed the iPad) are most often touted for. You know, how they can be used to get information quickly without resorting to booting a PC, etc.
So, if easy, fast, and convenient access to information is important, and widgets provide the easiest, fast, and most convenient access to it, then they should be pretty hard to dismiss as an advantage. This is why more and more reviewers are talking about how the iPad is nice hardware and has a smooth UI, but it's getting a bit long in the tooth in terms of the functionality provided by iOS.
I am very sad to say it but I have cancelled my order. I just cant justify paying what this phone costs for something that wont even let me use Android Auto and keeps switching Google apps to Oppo even after setting Google apps as default. I will continue to lurk and hope for a day when we see this phone released with a Global version. Thanks to everyone for all your answers and feedback, it is appreciated.
Anyone want to buy an Oppo light Gray case…should be arriving at my door any day now
You’ve done the right thing. No matter what someone else tries to tell you about rotation apps or how the general experience isn’t a problem, I’m sorry, but it is. You just saved yourself a crap load of money and I’m happy for you.
Mine is going up on eBay UK tomorrow if anyone is interested
future3 said:
You’ve done the right thing. No matter what someone else tries to tell you about rotation apps or how the general experience isn’t a problem, I’m sorry, but it is. You just saved yourself a crap load of money and I’m happy for you.
Mine is going up on eBay UK tomorrow if anyone is interested
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It is interesting that you are active on this forum. This community is all about customizing devices, and making them do things they are not originally intended to do. If you come here, you will get recommendations on the same. For those that want a phone to just works, buy one from your carrier, for those that want to play with tech, and force it into submission, buy one that is not meant for your carrier, visit XDA, and get to work.
Also imapfsr has received the feedback they requested here, to include the recommendation to not buy the Find N.
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Admiral Oden said:
It is interesting that you are active on this forum. This community is all about customizing devices, and making them do things they are not originally intended to do. If you come here, you will get recommendations on the same. For those that want a phone to just works, buy one from your carrier, for those that want to play with tech, and force it into submission, buy one that is not meant for your carrier, visit XDA, and get to work.
Also imapfsr has received the feedback they requested here, to include the recommendation to not buy the Find N. View attachment 5507817
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Who says it’s about customisation? Do you make the rules? It’s nonsense to say ‘buy one from carrier’, what are you on about?
This person wants honest opinions, he does not want to waste over 1000 bucks for some person to say it works because they have downloaded an app on PlayStore to work around the devices limitations. Don’t worry he’ll wait for your analysis on Android Auto.
You say most of apps works, 99.999% would work fine, yeah OK….have you used every single one of PlayStores apps? Do you know every little UI issue on every single app? I doubt it.
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Who says it’s about customisation? Do you make the rules? It’s nonsense to say ‘buy one from carrier’, what are you on about?
This person wants honest opinions, he does not want to waste over 1000 bucks for some person to say it works because they have downloaded an app on PlayStore to work around the devices limitations. Don’t worry he’ll wait for your analysis on Android Auto.
You say most of apps works, 99.999% would work fine, yeah OK….have you used every single one of PlayStores apps? Do you know every little UI issue on every single app? I doubt it.
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For your first question... It's in the name "XDA-Developers", and if that is not enough it is in a statement on their home page.
Ask what you want, but if you are coming here to ask questions you should expect responses that include customizing. imapfsr was smart in coming here because they knew they did not want to do heavy customizations, and asked questions that lead to not buying the phone. You on the other hand seem mad that people are offering up solutions to these issues.
Last, if you want to quote me pay attention to context, it is important. My comment was this:
I said 99.9999% of apps would look fine in landscape mode, and to turn to portrait for the others. In a later post I offered to test specific apps for anyone that would like. This was in response to you complaining about the phone being in landscape by default.
Do you also complain about all the default portrait phones that force you to turn into landscape when you launch a game?
Admiral Oden said:
It is interesting that you are active on this forum. This community is all about customizing devices, and making them do things they are not originally intended to do. If you come here, you will get recommendations on the same. For those that want a phone to just works, buy one from your carrier, for those that want to play with tech, and force it into submission, buy one that is not meant for your carrier, visit XDA, and get to work.
Also imapfsr has received the feedback they requested here, to include the recommendation to not buy the Find N. View attachment 5507817
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Who says it’s about customisation? Do you make the rules? It’s nonsense to say ‘buy one from carrier’, what are you on about?
This person wants honest opinions, he does not want to waste over 1000 bucks for some person to say it works because they have downloaded an app on PlayStore to work around the devices limitations.
You say most of apps works, there’s 99.9999% would work fine, have you used of PlayStores apps? Do you know every little UI issue on every single app? I doubt it
Admiral Oden said:
For your first question... It's in the name "XDA-Developers", and if that is not enough it is in a statement on their home page.
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Ask what you want, but if you are coming here to ask questions you should expect responses that include customizing. imapfsr was smart in coming here because they knew they did not want to do heavy customizations, and asked questions that lead to not buying the phone. You on the other hand seem mad that people are offering up solutions to these issues.
Last, if you want to quote me pay attention to context, it is important. My comment was this:
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I said 99.9999% of apps would look fine in landscape mode, and to turn to portrait for the others. In a later post I offered to test specific apps for anyone that would like. This was in response to you complaining about the phone being in landscape by default.
Do you also complain about all the default portrait phones that force you to turn into landscape when you launch a game?
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99.9999% of apps would look fine in landscape.
Your argument about games makes no sense - most games force landscape mode, that’s just games - most other apps don’t force landscape mode and most people aren’t playing games most of of the time on their phones, so that’s awful comeback.
Context doesn’t make your argument any more relevant. You have no idea that this % amount of apps ‘look fine’, stop pretending you know more than you do. Also why would offer to test apps? Who on earth do you think you are? Please calm your ego. You are a nobody. No one’s care about you testing anything.
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Who says it’s about customisation? Do you make the rules? It’s nonsense to say ‘buy one from carrier’, what are you on about?
This person wants honest opinions, he does not want to waste over 1000 bucks for some person to say it works because they have downloaded an app on PlayStore to work around the devices limitations.
You say most of apps works, there’s 99.9999% would work fine, have you used of PlayStores apps? Do you know every little UI issue on every single app? I doubt it
99.9999% of apps would look fine in landscape.
Your argument about games makes no sense - most games force landscape mode, that’s just games - most other apps don’t force landscape mode and most people aren’t playing games most of of the time on their phones, so that’s awful comeback.
Context doesn’t make your argument any more relevant. You have no idea that this % amount of apps ‘look fine’, stop pretending you know more than you do. Also why would offer to test apps? Who on earth do you think you are? Please calm your ego. You are a nobody. No one’s care about you testing anything.
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@future3 got a PM
Admiral Oden said:
It is interesting that you are active on this forum. This community is all about customizing devices, and making them do things they are not originally intended to do. If you come here, you will get recommendations on the same. For those that want a phone to just works, buy one from your carrier, for those that want to play with tech, and force it into submission, buy one that is not meant for your carrier, visit XDA, and get to work.
Also imapfsr has received the feedback they requested here, to include the recommendation to not buy the Find N. View attachment 5507817
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And I thank you for that as well sir!
Hey you guys, nothing this trivial is worth arguing over, we have enough garbage to deal with nowadays to not get pissed over this. I appreciate everyone's help and feedback for and against. I am just looking for everyone's honest opinion and I always get that here without question. As I have stated previously I have messed around with phones since the original Mi Mix but I am passed the stage of wanting to do that anymore, I just want my phone to work...who knows, global version maybe or late news is looking like maybe the Google Pipet might be Find N like so we will see. Ideally that would be perfect...a Google foldable in the flavor of the Find N with pure Android...yes please
Thanks again to everyone!
You have made a great choice. Great hardware, poor software with way too many irritations. I sold mine 2 days after getting it.
Good luck to those jumping off; but I've been using the Find N a week now, and very happy with it (Fold is going on sale shortly). It's just an all around better package with better trade offs (for me) than my Fold. Every phone has trade offs, and it is true there are some things that might not work yet (Android Auto) and some that are annoying (aggressive battery); but with the Fold the form factor is just not quite right (for me), and it always felt like a folded in half iPad Mini which doesn't fit comfortably in the pocket; where the outer screen is too tall and the keyboard too narrow such that the outer screen isn't very usable; and then the weight in the hand is unwieldy due to the length. I can understand if there are deal breakers for some (such as for those where Android Auto is a must have), but so far there aren't any for me.
@conceptgate
What do you mean with "(Fold is going on sale shortly)"?
Do you mean the Oppo find N going on sale soon?
Tahot said:
What do you mean with "(Fold is going on sale shortly)"?
Do you mean the Oppo find N going on sale soon?
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No, my Fold is going on sale because I'm keeping the Find N....
conceptgate said:
No, my Fold is going on sale because I'm keeping the Find N....
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Haha got it! enjoy it
All Samsung Fold's are even not close to this phone's build quality, if this phone came with global version than for the moment no any fold can be a competitor.