Hello everyone,
I have tried the two reg patch by Sin () to add the Handsfree profile to my Qtek 2020 (with WM2003SE). I use the very good Bluetooth headset by Globalsat BTH-808, and I have seen these things:
- When in Headset mode: the blu BT Led on the Globalsat flash one time per second. If one call incomes, an icon on the top bar light on in my Qtek and I can use the Globalsat to answer the call, or I can transfer audio back to Qtek and use it to answer the call.
- When in Handsfree mode: the blu BT Led on the Globalsat flash three time per second (awful). An icon noticing the HF Profile is ever on the top bar (with or without a call incoming, and this is not good, i think). If one call incomes, I can use at the same time the Globalsat or the Qtek (audio comes out from the Qtek and from the Globalsat).
Where is the good useful way of this? Why do I need the Handsfree profile too? to make voice dialing (adding relative software)? I didn't liked it and I disabled back the HF profile...
Can someone explain to me how the Hadsfree profile is good?
Thank's
facts
Hands free mode is great when using the right OS.
hands free is more robust. It offers caller ID, etc.
Headset will not do caller ID but I believe it may offer better battery life.
Also with your 2.02-2.06, you will notice while in hands free that the mic on the headset does not work, only the one on the phone.. Even though you can hear sound on the headset!!
If I am wrong, please tell me.
One OS that supports Hands free is the 2.20 translated or in original Chinese. But the caller ID is not consistent on some if not all devices. The caller ID will not be displayed if you have already received the call or if it is in your contacts. It also has some bugs when someone calls on the call waiting and you switch over to it, you will loose the sound on both the headset and the phone until you turn off hands free and then back on.
The other OS, 2005, is GREAT with the Hands free and the phone program, no bugs AT ALL with bluetooth and the phone, BUT, the contacts, email and calendar database are different so it will not work with many programs and the memory size is messed up and small.
I am switching back to my 2.20 translated today.
I wish someone wuld fix it.
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ccrrazzzy said:
Hands free mode is great when using the right OS.
hands free is more robust. It offers caller ID, etc.
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Hmmm, no... with my device (Qtek 2020, aka XDA II/MDA II and WM2003 SE 2.06) the CallerID works great with either Headset profile and Handfree Profile...
ccrrazzzy said:
Headset will not do caller ID but I believe it may offer better battery life.
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Yes this is real: Headset is more light for battery life cause it lets BT headset to go online only during call incoming...
ccrrazzzy said:
Also with your 2.02-2.06, you will notice while in hands free that the mic on the headset does not work, only the one on the phone.. Even though you can hear sound on the headset!!
If I am wrong, please tell me.
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According to me you are wrong, cause my device have the headset mic working in either Headset and Handfree profile. The only practic difference between the two profiles are that HS goes idle and come online only during call incoming, instead HF is online not stop.
ccrrazzzy said:
One OS that supports Hands free is the 2.20 translated or in original Chinese. But the caller ID is not consistent on some if not all devices. The caller ID will not be displayed if you have already received the call or if it is in your contacts. It also has some bugs when someone calls on the call waiting and you switch over to it, you will loose the sound on both the headset and the phone until you turn off hands free and then back on.
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Again... with my device all works fine, but I don't like the headset all time in waiting/online modem with its led blinking speedly and the boring icon on the top bar (so if you miss a call or receive a sms, you see the baloon tooltip to advice you that more than 1 alert are waiting). I don't know about your bugs cause I never tested these cases
ccrrazzzy said:
The other OS, 2005, is GREAT with the Hands free and the phone program, no bugs AT ALL with bluetooth and the phone, BUT, the contacts, email and calendar database are different so it will not work with many programs and the memory size is messed up and small.
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I am yet not happy about the WM2003SE 2.06WWE speed on booting and its stability... so I will not go further on with Magneto/WM2005... When I will be able to do, I will buy a new device with Magneto natively working...
ccrrazzzy said:
I am switching back to my 2.20 translated today.
I wish someone wuld fix it.
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Good flashing and have a nice weekend!
The difference between the two right now using WM2k3SE is:
Handsfree allows you to redial the last number using your BT headset (hold headset button for 2-3 secs).
Headset allows to use the BT headset to talk on the phone.
Other than that they don't do anything else with the current OS (at least for me)
tesking
I am using a Jabra BT800 and I have talked to people who are using Erickson HBH200 and HBH660 and one guy who is using an xLive. The people I have talked to using 2.02 or 2.06 or Sin's 2.02-2.06 merge, all said these devices are not having the caller ID working and the Hands Free would give them the stereo affect.
You are the first.
I have tried 2.02, 2.06 and the Sin's combined one. All would not display properly with the caller ID on my BT800. And even with the addition of the reg key, hkey local machine, software, Microsoft, Bluetooth, "HandsfreeProfileOn", I would get the caller ID, only if the number was not in my contacts and it was not already in my call history of the BT device.
I have also tried BT tools, I have tried every patch and tried all the widcomm stuff too.
I am very curious to know what you have for a ROM and any BT additions or patches and I am very interested to know what caller ID BT device you have.
Maybe you misunderstood what I was saying as well, please know that I was talking about caller ID being displayed upon the BT device, not the phone.
One other thing that Hands free does is allows for the possibility of BT activated voice dial. Like the the voicesignal program on my MPX300.
There has to be a hardware specific driver for each device so when you press the button, it transfers the audio and Mic to the BT headset and starts the voice recognition program. Other wise, we would have had BT voice dial on our HTC devices by now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15191&start=50
ccrrazzzy
I misunderstood the BT device you're using for caller ID (I don't have such device, I was talking about the phone itself).
As far as redialing using the Headset, I am using the Motorola HS850 and I was able to use it to redial the last number. However I end up turning the Handfree off when I don't need it in order to avoid the Mic issue on the headset. When I paired the headset, I chose headset profile only. When ever I need the handfree capability, I normall go under Start/Settings/Connections/Bluetooth/Devices hold my stylus on the device (HS850) then choose "Set as Hands-free" on the pop menu.
For Crrrrraaaazzzyyy:
For Crrrrraaaazzzyyy:
Sorry for your device... I can tell you that with the Globalsat BTH-808 (see the ebay link below), it works smooth in headset Profile (1 or 2 seconds and I can answer from the headset button), and it works smooth in Handfree profile (but as I said, i don't like the behaviour): you can buy the headset from here
http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6334980179
Have a nice day!
BT
Sorry I was not clearer at first. I was speaking about the caller ID on the BT headset or in a BT car audio system.
Hands free is needed to have features like caller ID on the BT device and voice dial and to be able to scroll through the BT device's caller ID history and make calls from that while leaving your cell phone safely tucked in your briefcase or hip case.
With my MPX300, because it supports BT voice dial through the BT headset, and with my caller ID on my Jabra BT800 BT headset, I can have all the power of my phone on my ear; being able to make calls through the caller ID history and through dialing via voice dial by speaking the phone number OR speaking the contacts name AND be able to see who is calling me, all while my cell phone-PDA is about 30 feet away!
I just wish we had this on the XDAII because I hate my MPX300; small screen and low memory make it useless.
Through the 2.20 OS, I am able to get caller ID functioning somewhat, but I have to disable call waiting. However to get BT voice dial to work, we will need someone to make a driver like the one that is in the MPX300 and use software like FONIX or www.voicesignal.com
Here is how we can make voicedial work on BT.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19233&highlight=
XDAII-TSM500 and Jabra BT800 incompatibility ???
I cannot use neither the microphone nor the headphone of the BT800 instead of the XDAII for listennig mp3 files or recording notes.
When I use headset mode, I can speak and hear throuhg BT800 and it is possible to use the buttons to answer and hang during a phone calling, but is not possible to dial, see the caller number and other features.
When I use handsfree mode, I can get most of features but the BT800 microphone does not work and I have to use the one of the PDA.
Any way, only it is possible to use the BT800 in phone mode, not in PDA mode. However it works perfectly whit my IPAQ.
Could anybody give me any idea ?
BT
Please read everything.
Again,
With a caller ID device like the BT800, it needs Hands Free mode to work right. 2.02 and 2.06 do not do Hands Free well.
Only 2.20 and 2005 but 2005 has other bugs. In 2.20 you must disable call waiting or live with clicking upon Tools, Hands-Free Off, then Tools, Hands-Free On to resume the sound on the BT headset when you try to switch back to the first call. You will have to do this even if you ignore a call.
2005 works VERY well with BT and the phone but there are other bugs like lack of memory and database not compatible with third party programs.
I am sorry ccrrazzzy
I did not mention I have two other poblems:
One is that I am a beginner whith these machines, less than two weeks working whith them, and some concepts are confusing to me.
The other is, my short english (obvious ?) make me misunderstand things and to explain them is even worse.
I understood that all problems appear using the phone and not using the PDA for listening mp3 files, for example. When I use the BT800 whith my IPAQ 5500 (headset only) works like a wired headphones and I thought that it should work in the same way whith the XDA, forgeting the phone features.
I will try whith 2.20.
Many thanks for your answer and excuse me.
mp3 will not work unless you get http://www.bluetake.com/products/BT420EX.htm or the HP one.
While using Headset profile, in 2.02, 2.06 and 2.20, The BT800 will work but I experienced an 8 or 9 second delay before call is transfered to the headset when someone call me. Calling out is OK.
Hands free and 2.20 is only good way with BT800.
No audio on BT headset on the XDAII, no matter what OS... Like the mono audio on your other pda, it will not work on xdaii.
I am trying the xLive now, will post results. It has built in MP3 player and is BT cell phone Hands free. Only $90.
These will not make you look like you are from outer space
http://www.itechdynamic.com/html/border22.htm
Support HiFi audio, stereo but I doubt they will work on the XDAII.
You could make them work with the widcomm stack but that stack does not work with Hands Free and I forget if it works with Headset.
If this thing had caller ID and worked for sure with the XDAII, I would get it.
Hi folks,
Greetings from Italy.
First of all congratulations for this web site and thanks to all people who share their info's with others.
Problem: I use a Qtek 2020 with his original latest ROM 1.75.04ITA, radio 1.14.00, with a Logitech BT headset . This configuration works fine, and I can make/receive phone calls without any problem. I also have installed TT5 with a BT GPS Leadtek device and it works fine, BUT I can't hear TT5 vocal instructions in my BT headset! The voice from TT5 is only available on Qtek speaker.
If I receive a phone call during TT5 usage, the phone call is correctly diversed on my BT headset, on TT5 screen appears an icon showing 'Vocal instructions suspended' (but the graphic instructions are ok) and at the end of phone call the vocal instructions start again.
Note that using wired headset all works perfectly.
How can I hear these vocal instructions into my BT headset?
I know using Nokia 7710 with identical configuration it works fine, why using Qtek isn't?
Pls help me! It's is very important, because I'm an ambluance driver, and this function should be VERY useful for us in our job.
I'm availabe to all modifications: i.e. change ROM, change BT stack (but I'm not able..need instructions..), change WinMobile version... whatever you want if it can be the solution!
The only thing I don't want is to buy another device or a BT adapter.
Thanks,
Valerio
I successfully paired Cingular8525 with Acura 2007 HandsFreeLink. But after it report successfull pairing, I can not use it. It saying phone not found. I use same phone before with PArot system without any problem.
If you go to Acura web site they report 8125 will not support call waiting and data link, but will support basic phone functions. But it does not work for me. Does anyone succesfully paired 8525 with Acura HandsFreeLink? Is 8525 better then 8125 in list of futures supported by acura?
Thanks
I successfully use the 8525 with my Acura TL's Bluetooth. (Previously used an 8125). It works, but occasionally it will drop the Bluetooth connection. This seems to be a known issue with Bluetooth on the 8525.
BTW To get battery level and signal strength meter on the Acura, you need to get the following program:
http://www.jetwaremobile.com
Mike
I have the same problem with my 2005 BMW 545i. Only stays connected when I leave the screen on. If I hybernate it, I lose bluetooth connection. The Jetware program did not seem to help.
sign up for the jetware beta -- might help
my TL also randomly drops the connection as well.
Question, when you answer an incoming call, does the HFL beep twice? Mine does, and the people on the other line can hear the second beep....
Oh well, just live with it I guess....
Bluetooth Acura paudible Tone problem
Yes, I also get dropped more than occasionally in the Acura bluetooth connection. Any fixes? Another Acura problem for me is that when audible tones are created to SEND tone data replies ( " hit 7 to disconnect"), the last tone in teh sudible series sticks and hangs on for 10 seconds or so. The tone message is sent and recieved, so the call actions continue in the background to the tone. Cingular says hardware and send back phone. Any alternative ideas ,or does everyone else have tone work ok?
Bluetooth Acura audible Tone problem
Yes, I also get dropped more than occasionally in the Acura bluetooth connection. Any fixes? Another Acura problem for me is that when audible tones are created to SEND tone data replies ( " hit 7 to disconnect"), the last tone in the audible series sticks and hangs on for 10 seconds or so. The tone message is sent and recieved, so the call actions continue in the background to the tone. Cingular says hardware and send back phone. Any alternative ideas ,or does everyone else have tone work ok?
this actually worked for me, however, the drain on the battery is siginificant, so if you can live with that, I have gone two weeks now without a dropped call....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=247520
Does anyone recognise having problems when using a parrot CK3100 with the S740? When I answer an incoming call, the parrot sort of disconnects so I have to get the phone in hand to speak. There is a sign of a tone in the display with a stripe through it. I already updated the parrot-software but no luck. Also checked the compatibility-list of the parrot and unfortunately the S740 isn't in it.
Therefore I'm just wondering if anybody else uses the CK3100 and experienced the same problems but somehow managed to solve them?
Thanx in advance for a reply.
A question : Do you answer the call using the answeringbutton on the carkit or the phone? When you use the phonebutton this is normal.
I also have a lot if issues with the parrot carkit MK6000. After a call it takes 2 minutes before the carkit can be used again (carkit needs to reconnect to the phone and is doing this after 2 minutes) and at every connect it wants to start to download the contacts from the phone. But it never completes. It's about time parrot releases an update.
Solved!
Thanx for your helpful question/answer! The parrot appears to work perfectly when you only use the device on the dashboard to make calls and answer them. With the latest software update 4.18b (which I installed earlier) all works like a charm. Just don't use the S740 to make calls or answer them while it's connected to the parrot.
So I've got my hands on the tablet, works great but there is one thing I didn't quite get. Over the bluetooth, a headset/handsfree, when answering a call it turns all the radio off disconecting the tablet from the gsm network, wifi, bluetooth for 2-3 seconds and after everything is back to normal. It doesn't do that when the call is initiated from the tablet, only on answer. I tried a nokia bh 102, nokia bh 214, nokia bh 200, bluetrek st1 and a samsung hs6000 with the same result. When the call is answered without the headset it works with no problems but as soon as I try to connect the headset and transfer the call to the headset, the "radio off" message appears in the status bar and game over. I believe this is a software related issue since the hardware works in other conditions. Could someone give me an advice to what I can do besides getting it to a service? It is rooted so I have access to the root files. Maybe a firmware update or a custom rom? I googled all night for an answer, but no luck.