Before I Upgrade .... - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development

Before I Upgrade .... - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development

I just bought T-Mobile Ameo WM 5.0 over the ebay which was mentioned unlocked. I am using it with vodafone SIM. I am confused by reading about upgrades that it has to be unlopcked before it ca be upgraded. Does this SIM unlock is the 'unlock' required to upgrde or is it something different?
(1) How do I know that it is really unlocked, if it is different to SIM unlocking? As it is working with other than T-Mobile SIM proves it is unlocked? As different to other WM devices I have used, this is more like a PC booting up.
(2) What are the prime benefits of upgrading to WM6.0?
(3) I want to go for official upgrade (i.e. WM 6.0) than coocked ROMs as for now. Or should I jump to the latest (but coocked Wm 6.1 or WM 6.5) ROM? Do I loose any functionality in installing coocked ROM?
(4) And last, does upgrading to offical ROM (downloaded from links on the forum) will again Unlock it to T-Mobile? This may seem trivial, but I have a bit concern that as it is going to be offical upgrade, can it again lock to T-Mobile? If it does, than I will not be in a position to use it as phone unless I unlock again! This seems funny on my part, but better prevent than cure.
Thanks in advance

NO ONE AS YET? I gussed I would have received instant answers to very basic questions becaise I had just bought Ameo!

mmbika said:
I just bought T-Mobile Ameo WM 5.0 over the ebay which was mentioned unlocked. I am using it with vodafone SIM. I am confused by reading about upgrades that it has to be unlopcked before it ca be upgraded. Does this SIM unlock is the 'unlock' required to upgrde or is it something different?
(1) How do I know that it is really unlocked, if it is different to SIM unlocking? As it is working with other than T-Mobile SIM proves it is unlocked? As different to other WM devices I have used, this is more like a PC booting up.
(2) What are the prime benefits of upgrading to WM6.0?
(3) I want to go for official upgrade (i.e. WM 6.0) than coocked ROMs as for now. Or should I jump to the latest (but coocked Wm 6.1 or WM 6.5) ROM? Do I loose any functionality in installing coocked ROM?
(4) And last, does upgrading to offical ROM (downloaded from links on the forum) will again Unlock it to T-Mobile? This may seem trivial, but I have a bit concern that as it is going to be offical upgrade, can it again lock to T-Mobile? If it does, than I will not be in a position to use it as phone unless I unlock again! This seems funny on my part, but better prevent than cure.
Thanks in advance
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Its been a while since I did mine but will try and advise on what I can remember
1.SIM unlocking is for using other networks operators and sometimes confused with CID unlocking, I think. If your using a vodaphone sim then it is def sim unlocked but in order to get it to a safe point for upgrading ideally you need to install hardspl and cid unlock I think. There are many guides on here but you will have to search and read I'm afraid as most of us did this a while ago.
2/3.Each of the windows builds 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5 bring different things and increased functionality, 6.0 and 6.1 are worthwhile upgrades as they are both official releases, you may struggle to find a stock 6.1 for the ameo though. Again its been a long time since I used 6.1 on any of my devices, 6.5 is ok as long as you realise that its still in MS beta so you may find stuff that doesnt work or isnt perfect but it is the most up to date. Cooked roms gain or loose functionality dependant on the cook who made it and what they decided to include or remove.
4. I have never installed the stock t-mobile rom so cant tell you if it will re-lock the device but I wouldnt think so.
***Please for your own sake, read as much as you can in these forums to ensure you know what your going to do, also if you do decide to go for cooked roms make sure you use a rom suitable for your SPL****
Hope this helps

avengerpenguin said:
Its been a while since I did mine but will try and advise on what I can remember
1.SIM unlocking is for using other networks operators and sometimes confused with CID unlocking, I think. If your using a vodaphone sim then it is def sim unlocked but in order to get it to a safe point for upgrading ideally you need to install hardspl and cid unlock I think. There are many guides on here but you will have to search and read I'm afraid as most of us did this a while ago.
2/3.Each of the windows builds 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5 bring different things and increased functionality, 6.0 and 6.1 are worthwhile upgrades as they are both official releases, you may struggle to find a stock 6.1 for the ameo though. Again its been a long time since I used 6.1 on any of my devices, 6.5 is ok as long as you realise that its still in MS beta so you may find stuff that doesnt work or isnt perfect but it is the most up to date. Cooked roms gain or loose functionality dependant on the cook who made it and what they decided to include or remove.
4. I have never installed the stock t-mobile rom so cant tell you if it will re-lock the device but I wouldnt think so.
***Please for your own sake, read as much as you can in these forums to ensure you know what your going to do, also if you do decide to go for cooked roms make sure you use a rom suitable for your SPL****
Hope this helps
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That's what I was suspecting, that SIM unlocking wasn't the unlocking required to upgrade it. Thanks for reconfirming this.
Now as there is offical WM 6.0 ROM for Ameo linked here, does that mean they (T-Mobile) have also referred their own upgrading procedure somewhere? For my Xperia X1, SE Updte utility takes care of official upgrade task, so something similar had existed sometime as there exists official T-Mobile 6.0 ROM, there must their official procedure too. I will definitely try to find it, but as yet someone had gone through it, please give some hints.
And as yet until I get a definite answer that upgrading it to offical WM 6.0 T-Mobile ROM will not lock (I mean SIM Lock) to T-Mobile again, I will prefer to defer although I am still looking to get enhanced performance, it has been with me for just a few day and I don't want to mess it up as I have slowly began to love it! Even it is like my desktop speakerphone at home / office and I have began to talk more conveniently and confortable on the desk or home. Yes, I am still not used to use it as normal small cell phone, but I hope I will gt used to it, although I find to see anything on screen during sulit days or in bright daylight.

mmbika said:
That's what I was suspecting, that SIM unlocking wasn't the unlocking required to upgrade it. Thanks for reconfirming this.
Now as there is offical WM 6.0 ROM for Ameo linked here, does that mean they (T-Mobile) have also referred their own upgrading procedure somewhere? For my Xperia X1, SE Updte utility takes care of official upgrade task, so something similar had existed sometime as there exists official T-Mobile 6.0 ROM, there must their official procedure too. I will definitely try to find it, but as yet someone had gone through it, please give some hints.
And as yet until I get a definite answer that upgrading it to offical WM 6.0 T-Mobile ROM will not lock (I mean SIM Lock) to T-Mobile again, I will prefer to defer although I am still looking to get enhanced performance, it has been with me for just a few day and I don't want to mess it up as I have slowly began to love it! Even it is like my desktop speakerphone at home / office and I have began to talk more conveniently and confortable on the desk or home. Yes, I am still not used to use it as normal small cell phone, but I hope I will gt used to it, although I find to see anything on screen during sulit days or in bright daylight.
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Hi. welcome to the forum. I was new here six months ago. there is a lot of information here and you MUST take time to read and understand. not many will answer your basic questions. they is not being nasty, it is just the way it is. you must teach yourself. you will not find much (if any) information about official roms.
if you decide to try a cooked rom, Lakeman has produced a great tutorial which is stickied in this forum. It is the one I followed. here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013
study this carefully, google anything you dont understand, dont do anything until you are sure you know what you are doing.
just to repeat what avengerpenguin said
MAKE SURE YOU USE A ROM TO SUIT YOUR SPL
good luck

lennie said:
to be able to flash cooked ROMs to your phone you need to hardSPL your device. HardSPl will OS unlock your device. to be able to use the best WM6.5 rom for your device you need to upgrade to SPL 3.5.
first thing you need to do:
find out what spl your device is currently using: hold down camera button (all the way down) + press the reset hole/button, keep holding down on the camera button but release the reset hole/button (keep holding on camera button until a multi colored screen comes up (then release camera button) look where it says (spl) tell us what is there.
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It was 1.10 something and I upgraded to T-Mobile official WM6 ROM today without any issues and overall device is more fast and chunkier. Now it is 2.35 something.
I have however noticed two issues,
(1) HSDPA switch is enabled yet 'H' icon has gone so probably it is not connecting to HSDPA mode, I guess. I want the 'H' back.
(2) Windows Live is gone.
(3) Programs icons are noit alfabatically sorted but somehow lossely scattered.
I googled that Ameo doesn't require CID unlocked and it upgrades directly and it did via T-Mobile application which runs via USB cable.

mmbika said:
It was 1.10 something and I upgraded to T-Mobile official WM6 ROM today without any issues and overall device is more fast and chunkier. Now it is 2.35 something.
I have however noticed two issues,
(1) HSDPA switch is enabled yet 'H' icon has gone so probably it is not connecting to HSDPA mode, I guess. I want the 'H' back.
(2) Windows Live is gone.
(3) Programs icons are noit alfabatically sorted but somehow lossely scattered.
I googled that Ameo doesn't require CID unlocked and it upgrades directly and it did via T-Mobile application which runs via USB cable.
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HSDPA may be down to the age of the rom, if tmobile didnt have their HSDPA running when the rom was built may not be included in the icons etc
Windows live should be available through cab if you search or use a 3rd party app like palringo

mmbika said:
It was 1.10 something and I upgraded to T-Mobile official WM6 ROM today without any issues and overall device is more fast and chunkier. Now it is 2.35 something.
I have however noticed two issues,
(1) HSDPA switch is enabled yet 'H' icon has gone so probably it is not connecting to HSDPA mode, I guess. I want the 'H' back.
(2) Windows Live is gone.
(3) Programs icons are noit alfabatically sorted but somehow lossely scattered.
I googled that Ameo doesn't require CID unlocked and it upgrades directly and it did via T-Mobile application which runs via USB cable.
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Hi and welcome to the forum,
Now I have been using the Ameo for 2 years now, and must have flashed about every rom there is for it. So the other day I thought about going back to a stock WM6.0 T-mobile rom and try it for a few days to see how different it was to a cooked rom. Well it lasted 2 hours and I put it back to Michy's 5.1 rom. Now I'm not saying that Michy's roms are the mutts nutts of roms, that is down to personal choice, but it just proved to me why we use cooked roms. Read the WIKI, and I very much doubt you will have a fault that's not covered in that page.Also read THIS superb thread, it tells you all you need to know BE very careful when choosing a rom that you check the SPL on it, as flashing an SPL 3.5 rom onto an Ameo with another SPL will cause all sorts of problems. Like I say, Read the WIKI FIRST. take your time, and do nothing till you are sure!
Regards
Jay

Somehow I found internet access speeds even better although it doesn't display 'H' for HSDPA, because noe HD youtube videos plays smoothly with less buffering, i.e. seems good enough. Battery life has been extended.
USB host is still not good, can't retain it's status, can't load HDD or DVD or CD drives (via powered hub, offcourse)
I was just ponderind, does it drain more battery while connected to keyboard as keyboard definitely will be needing some current to drive and power to run it, that means even when it is plugged in to charger or USB to a PC, what difference does i make w.r.t time it takes to fully charge and retain there where keyboard is connected and when not?

Hi I just upgraded my Ameo using the official TMB 005 6.0 upgrade and it did not relock my sim to tmobile, my vodacom sim is still working fine, however now I want to upgrade it to 6.1 or 6.5 perhaps using a cooked ROM as i cant find an offical Tmobile upgrade to 6.1

donczaro1 said:
Hi I just upgraded my Ameo using the official TMB 005 6.0 upgrade and it did not relock my sim to tmobile, my vodacom sim is still working fine, however now I want to upgrade it to 6.1 or 6.5 perhaps using a cooked ROM as i cant find an offical Tmobile upgrade to 6.1
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I dont think there was an offical t mobile 6.1 release, and any 6.1 stock build will be very old now as I dont think there has been any oem development for this device for a long time.

avengerpenguin said:
I dont think there was an offical t mobile 6.1 release, and any 6.1 stock build will be very old now as I dont think there has been any oem development for this device for a long time.
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No there wasn't a 6.1 upgrade for our device, I think they thought it such a small change that it wasn't worth it. and not long after they brought out the 16gb device.
Regards
Jay

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Recommended ROM for TMobile Version used on Vodafone?

Guys i have read lots of pages now and all the wiki and i am still unsure which is the current recommended rom to upgrade to?
do i use latest cincular or the latest imate? or somthing else? i have the voda uk settings already, just need to choose a rom!
Thanks

timellert said:
Guys i have read lots of pages now and all the wiki and i am still unsure which is the current recommended rom to upgrade to?
do i use latest cincular or the latest imate? or somthing else? i have the voda uk settings already, just need to choose a rom!
Thanks
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Well if you have already purchased the IMEI-check unlocker I wouldnt worry about it. You can swap as many times as you'd like with that.
Each ROM has its quirks here and there. There is no perfect ROM. I recommend just try a few out. I have had mine nearly a week and have tried almost all the WWE ROMS. I just changed from the 1.34 Cingular to the HTC. I can see a speed difference in a good way towards the HTC.
It's your world, choose your ROM.

jokinawa said:
Well if you have already purchased the IMEI-check unlocker I wouldnt worry about it. You can swap as many times as you'd like with that.
Each ROM has its quirks here and there. There is no perfect ROM. I recommend just try a few out. I have had mine nearly a week and have tried almost all the WWE ROMS. I just changed from the 1.34 Cingular to the HTC. I can see a speed difference in a good way towards the HTC.
It's your world, choose your ROM.
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So in your weeks of testing ROMs, which would YOU prefer/recommend?
I too am in the same problem in that there are lots of threads with wows and boo's , but there is no true comparison thread in what it does, does not do, what it has, has not, what stability it has, has not etc etc
With the K-jam, it was clear what ROMs were recommended but here, most are just going in circles askingQ's rather than reviewing roms.
I use the I-mate one after unlocking the M3100 and removing the orange one. While it is good, I am yet to hear what the other ones are like. I would test as you said but with lackof time etc, it is difficult... whichis where you guys come in
I want a stable working phone, andwhat I dont want is to upgrade to a rom (or keep the Imate) get it all up and running and then tomorrow, a much better rom comes out :->
This is in no way putting anyone down, I do appreciate like most of us do, that most of you guys really go out of your way to test/come back to us about how things went.
What would be nice is a definative answer from testers on how the roms were... and maybe a comparison thread too.
Thanks

Well its actually less than a week of testing. I didnt like the graphics in the iMates (mainly the boot up graphics). I also had the problem of the iMAte ROM freezing after installing MMS Composed which I need here in Japan. The Cingular ROMS have great graphics but cant unlock the ExtROM. The Dopod was the first I tried out and it looked great as I remember but I couldnt get it to connect to the internet here in Japan. The HTC seems to be my favorite now cause I dont see alot of extra certain network only apps that I dont need. It also seems to boot faster for me.
With all that being said, I am in Japan and you are not so my perception will be different than yours about which ROM is "the best." I would just say try one of each of the flavors of ROMS.This probably wont help much but I think you'll be happier if you try multiple ROMS out and pick for yourself.
Good Luck

Trying to choose little big problem.....!
jokinawa said:
Well its actually less than a week of testing. I didnt like the graphics in the iMates (mainly the boot up graphics). I also had the problem of the iMAte ROM freezing after installing MMS Composed which I need here in Japan. The Cingular ROMS have great graphics but cant unlock the ExtROM. The Dopod was the first I tried out and it looked great as I remember but I couldnt get it to connect to the internet here in Japan. The HTC seems to be my favorite now cause I dont see alot of extra certain network only apps that I dont need. It also seems to boot faster for me.
With all that being said, I am in Japan and you are not so my perception will be different than yours about which ROM is "the best." I would just say try one of each of the flavors of ROMS.This probably wont help much but I think you'll be happier if you try multiple ROMS out and pick for yourself.
Good Luck
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Cingular ROM downgrade error
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I have a Vodafone PDA1605 (HERM200) I've updated the ROM with new Cingular version available on this site (1.34.502, bootloader 1.06), now I need to downgrade to older version with same CID (1.30.502, bootloader 1.04) but I receive an ERROR "Wrong Vendor ID" every time i retry to flash the ROM (following the procedure... restarting the update without disconnecting the PDA).
I've also tryed to put other ROM with bootloader 1.06 (new Vodafone FRA... i will upload when tested) but I receive the Error: "Wrong Model.."
Could someone help me?
Emanuele

Third Party modified ROMS?

Hi,
Recently got a new Dopod 838Pro and im wondering why is it i can't seem to find any thrid party ROMS for it?
I had a Mitac Mio A701 before it, which was originally based on AKU 2.3 but third part ROMS became available from a Mio forum that updated it to AKU3.3. I really need something similar so i can get the added features. Mostly WPA2 support, but other things as well?
Is there somewhere that is doing this? are there any other sites that wold have a user created AKU3.3+ ROM update??
Thanks so much, and just a thanks to all those that i've read and used info from!

Hermes ROMs are signed with a private HTC key, the bootloader checks the signature before flashing the ROM. If you do a cooked or modified ROM and try to flash it you get an "invalid cert" error from bootloader. There will be no 3rd party cooked ROMs available for the Hermes until a way to circumvent that is found.

Bugger....
Any way to get WPA2 on it then, in its current state?
Thanks for the quick reply

No WPA2 AFAIK on AKU 2.3, you need AKU 3 or newer... probably you can use 3rd party supplicants, but I have never tried on WinCE.

So once you have the security certificate etc which is used to sign the code for the Hermes you'll be able to create a ROM based on a different device??

Yes, but HTC won't give its private keys to anyone... so the way to do this should be by placing a hacked SPL in RAM and jumping into it.
I started doing this some time ago, but got stuck while copying the SPL file into RAM and haven't had any more time to finish the project (busy with real life ****, work and studies).

This might be a dumb idea.. but instead of trying to bypass the bootloaders restrictions, why not hack the bootloader (since it's flashable) to bypass the signing requirement?

1st step is to jump from OS to SPL placed in RAM (not the real SPL flashed on the ROM).
Once we can do this, we can take the SPL and modify it so that it doesn't check signatures. But we can't flash this "hacked" bootloader in ROM without doing the 1st step, as we can't sign it

pof said:
1st step is to jump from OS to SPL placed in RAM (not the real SPL flashed on the ROM).
Once we can do this, we can take the SPL and modify it so that it doesn't check signatures. But we can't flash this "hacked" bootloader in ROM without doing the 1st step, as we can't sign it
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Thanks pof. I should have thought that it was the bootloader itself that did the verification. Good luck with this, I can't wait until I can get a custom rom, up to date with features like WPA2 without the telstra's (my local jasjam provider) **** all over it.

Same. Struggling without WPA2. Its meant no wifi for me essentially as im not willing to downgrade home netwrok and work use WPA2 as well, so for me, it may as well not have wifi at the moment. Hopefully either Dopod/HTC etc get their fingers out and release an official ROM or it gets cracked.
That was something the Mio A701 i had, which led to some great aftermarket ROMS.

Actually, I should mention that WPA2 is possibly a bad example. It's a feature of AKU 3 and there hasn't been one released for hermes yet (that I'm aware of). I'm just hoping because it's part of other WM5 platforms that once someone works out how to make custom roms they'll be able to hack up other similar devices AKU's for us.

T-Mobile ROMs - Available links here!

OMG!!! T-Mobile have released Official WM6 ROMS UK NE DE AT!!!
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There are a lot of people who keep asking for T-Mobile ROMs I was one of them. So this morning after someone else asking I have decided to post this in the hope it can be referred to!
CURRENTLY AVAILABLE DUMPED T-Mobile ROMs
UK ROM
UK ROM - With CustomRUU v4.3 felt kind so updated it for you all!
UK ROM - Windows Mobile 6 Test 3.60 - Radio 1.50
DUTCH ROM
CROATIAN ROM
GERMAN ROM
Edit from Sleuth255: We are not allowed to host ROMs here. Please post to rapidshare or some other site then link. I must remove these ROMs from our FTP due to an edict from m$ legal. Sorry
The UK one appears to have been built however I have not tested it, if someone has used it in the past please let me know.
I have not checked any of the others, if people have used them and they are built please contact me and I shall update this accordingly.
Please can someone update the Wiki for the UK ROM, thanks.
CURRENTLY AVAILABLE SHIPPED T-Mobile ROMs
HUNGARIAN
GERMAN
SHIPPED ROMS HERE
If there are anymore T-Mobile Shipped ROMS I have not mentioned please msg me and I will update accordingly.
Any chance of this thread being sticked?

Thanks, I think this is very helpfull.

Great! Always usefull when you need to restore your device

Has anyone tested if any of these ROMs flash properly.. for me it would be the Dutchversion then... But I can not test right now can not have my phone broken down. Once Kaizer is out I am going to buy that one and then I could test, but would be nice to know if these dumped ROMs work

Unfortunately I do not know, I haven't even tested the UK version as I am not sure if it will work, however I did update the RUU.
Shame we cannot emulate the firmware install!

The T-Mob UK dumped ROM isn't quite right - the w'n'w home page doesn't work properly.
Minor thing but, one of the first things I tested
I dumped my friends ROM the other day. I'm currently working on building it and testing it - will let you know when it's done
Cheers,
Smiffy.

Hmmm...humble pie - lovely
Well, after flashing the ROM i dumped the other day, I had exactly the same thing with IE.
It took me about 3 seconds to realise it must be because the extROM had been flashed by one of the WM6 ROMs I had been using in the past.
As it turns out, this is the case so I can confirm that if you have the same issue, download the extROM dumo from the wiki (from this page) and delete the current contents of your extROM and copy the downloaded one back to it. Hard reset, and voila - everything back the way T-Mobile shipped (apart from Radio ROM, IPL\SPL etc...) but WTH ;-)
Smiffy.

Lordsmiff said:
As it turns out, this is the case so I can confirm that if you have the same issue, download the extROM dumo from the wiki (from this page) and delete the current contents of your extROM and copy the downloaded one back to it. Hard reset, and voila - everything back the way T-Mobile shipped (apart from Radio ROM, IPL\SPL etc...) but WTH ;-)
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How can I do that?

trapper said:
How can I do that?
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Trapper,
I assume you mean how can you put the correct Extended ROM onto your device? If I understand this correctly, the ROMs mentioned in Jygar's first post are the original main ROM but the Extended ROM is in fact from a Windows Mobile 6 ROM (I do not believe that flashing a ROM will affect the Extended ROM - the problem is that the re-flashed (downgraded) WM5 ROM is starting the Extended ROM installation after the basic OS install (as normal) but that Extended ROM is still a WM6 one.
The page that is linked to includes many Extended ROMs from many countries and devices - one of them an original T-Mobile ROM (here) and if you were to unlock/unhide and mount your Extended ROM you would be able to delete the incorrect (WM6) ones and then paste in these original Extended ROM files.
The Extended ROM files are executed during a hard reset after the OS has been installed - details of how this works are within this forum. I am not sure that you need to do a hard reset but it all depends on whether you stopped the device completing a normal (complete) install. After a hard reset the device will start to execute the Extended ROM files/.cabs and if you stop that with a soft reset as soon as it starts then the device will re-boot with a basic WM build (with no service provider fixes/updates/customisations/settings)
If this is all explaining what you already know then sorry but your question posted is rather open... Hope this helps

ExtROM.nb attached Just put it into an NBH and flash
@tony.wheeler - What was the original radio version of your Vario II? I'm in the process of creating a complete upgrade to restore UK MDA Vario II's to their 'out of the box' state with the original ROMs (IPL, SPL, MainSplash, SubSplash, OS, Radio ExtROM)
Phil

eek, think it was 1.03?
[edit]Have done a search it appears it is 1.05!
only problem is this is HTC_BOOT 0106 and most ppl are now patched to 0108 so I would have thought we cannot downgrade our radio rom.
TBH 1.43 is the best radio rom out and i cannot say a bad word against it. I have only eva updated my radio rom and since the radio update have not had a problem with the origional t-mob os.

Hehe, yeah i found out it was 1.05 as well. Oh well, I'll use 1.07 in my NBH. I now have a complete ROM backup (IPL, SPL, GSM, OS, MainSplash, SubSplash, ExtROM) to revert back to should anything ever happen which means I would need to claim on the warranty.
Phil

The dutch rom seems to be in *.raw files. How can i open of re compile it?

jm012a9749 can you upload it?

RaDeNRFX said:
The dutch rom seems to be in *.raw files. How can i open of re compile it?
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Same question here.
Does anyone know how to use the .raw files...?

as its all t-mobile users on this thread, what radios are people finding the best? UK

Read, read, read...
wensing said:
Same question here.
Does anyone know how to use the .raw files...?
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoReconstruct

fil said:
as its all t-mobile users on this thread, what radios are people finding the best? UK
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I keep loosing connection with the 1.50 that came with the WM6 test ROM, and also falling down to GSM even though I'm in a good 3G reception area.
Didn't seem to notice these problems before. I was running Radio 1.48 onto of the old radio.

jm012a9749 said:
Hehe, yeah i found out it was 1.05 as well. Oh well, I'll use 1.07 in my NBH. I now have a complete ROM backup (IPL, SPL, GSM, OS, MainSplash, SubSplash, ExtROM) to revert back to should anything ever happen which means I would need to claim on the warranty.
Phil
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Any chance of you posting this backup ROM? There are many of us who would be very keen to have this as a safety net for when we have to return our Vario 2s under warranty.

twelve47 said:
I keep loosing connection with the 1.50 that came with the WM6 test ROM, and also falling down to GSM even though I'm in a good 3G reception area.
Didn't seem to notice these problems before. I was running Radio 1.48 onto of the old radio.
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I too am running with Radio 1.50, after a short-lived update to WM6. I have had no problems at all with 2g or 3g, steady as a rock.

How do I change the radio version?

I am trying to get TNT .20273 working on my G4, but my radio version is 2.30.11 and I heard this is why its not working correctly. I downloaded the T-Mobile 2.19.11, but I have Cingular...will this make a difference? Do I flash this like any other ROM? Do I need to flash this before or after I flash a new ROM?

Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present

Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.

Well I got TNT .20273 "working", but I was always getting missed calls and texts and whenever I would soft reset I would get like 10 cannot load blah blah file and I read somewere it was because the radio version I had. Plus I heard 2.19.11 was the best with no dropped calls and such.

al0ns0 said:
Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
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First determine which version is your phone,G3 or G4,its very important,coz method for flashing a rom is altogether different for both the devices.
HardSPL and SoftSPL are solely meant to flash a G4 device and shud not be done for a G3 phone,likewise CID unlocking method for a G3 phone,through lokiwiz02b or WST_4.2.2 Tool, shud not be carried out on a G4 device.
You need to do alot of reading to understand all these methods,So..... get going!!! or else you might end up 'Bricking" your phone

zabardast_1 said:
Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
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ok so you said that. i'd like to say, i have a g3 with radio 02.25.11 and i'm fixin to use a multitude of different roms i've found here .. some with touch flow, others are this and that. but none of them say anything about radio roms or compatibility or dropped call count. so my question to you is, will this radio rom i have make a difference? am i going to have to change radio roms or no?

This is the G4 subforum
Radio 2.19.11 is recommended.

Thanks a lot zabardast_1!
I did the reading and the upgrade. Evertyhing went great and my wizard is now running WM 6.1 and working great.
I do have a follow up question though. I noticed there are different ROMs and the today screen looks different (the way the clock is shown, the icons available, etc).
Is there any way to change the way things look without changing the ROM?
Thanks again!

Orange SPV M3100 rom upgrade to WM6/6.1

my cousin has 2 orange spv m3100 and was thinking about upgrading them to windows mobile 6 or 6.1 depending on rom's available
is this easily done?
and would it be best to unlock the phone so it can go on all networks before the rom update or after it?
all advice would be great thank you

Upgrading your device's rom is quite easy after youve done it once, just check the wiki page, upgrading for beginners this should tell you all you need to know about flashing a rom for the first time.
Have fun

cheers scotty
we're guna havea play about with both of them next tuesday/wednesday when we're both free
maybe unlock teh sim so it goes any network aswell

another quick question
do you know if the latest rom on there for the orange spv m3100 is a wm6 build?

no there wasnt a wm6 released for the spv m3100 the actual newest orange rom is a update on wm5 it is in my uploaded file i think if you want to have a look, i used a cooked rom after hard-spl and super cid everything works fine and i have flashed quite a few roms.
Have fun

thanks
do you know of any wm6 roms for the spv?
or if i got the phone unlocked and used a vodafone sim in it would i be able to flash vodafone roms or would i still have to use the orange rom?

James, going to your original question, I've recently done this myself, and over the past week, i've flashed my phone numerous times, so its very easily done.
Just read the guides, and make sure your 100% confident that you've understood it, I did and i'm 100% happy with the outcome!

Thanks Greeee
did you flash a wm6 or a wm5?
cause it comes with a wm5, but wanna updte to a wm6

Tbh, I should've explained something...
My phone is the HTC Hermes 200, not the SPV M3100, although they are the same phone, mines not branded by any network.
It was shipped to me (Bought secondhand) as WM6.1, so all I did last week was updated the HardSPL and since tried a few roms.
I didn't have to use SuperCID, to unlock mine, as it was unlocked, but I do wish you well buddy, and word of recommendation, try not to use branded software on phones, as they bog them down with too much bloatware, stick with what you like.
If need be, I'll help where I can, but tbh, your in safer hands with everyone in here, as all I did was read the guides, and stuck to what was being advised.
The people here are good, which makes it so much easier to use!

cheers Greeee
well im thinking of getting it unlocked before i do anything to it anyway, when using roms without a specified carrier does that mean i can use any rom or is it best to stick with the operator specified?

if you super cid you device you can use any rom that has been cooked or from any carrier as it is basically a unlock for that a bit like a sim unlock. most people use the cooked roms by the chefs in the wm6 part of the forum where there are wm6/6.1 and 6/5 roms that have been cooked and have different features so you will probably have to do a bit of flashing and some looking around before you find a rom that is best suited to you.
If you have ne more questions just ask, Have fun

cheers again scotty
super cid, that easy to do?
just like flashing?
and could i sitll use any carrier rom even if i got someone at a shop to unlock my phone to any carrier?

super cid an sim unlocking is different to flashing i think i dont really remember
wiki on sim an cid unlock here
and a thread here
hope this helps and saves u paying to have it unlocked good luck

yer unlocking and super cid are dif to flashing
are super cid and unlocking the same you know?
cheers for the links, i'll try saving some cash now

no problem and they both come in the same program you just choose which one you want to do both.
Good luck

whats teh splbootloader thing what i been reading about?
it says you need to install that or something :s

do you mean hard-spl?

yer thats what i mean

you will need to flash version 7 2.10 after the sim and cid unlock this prevents your device from bricking if a flash goes wrong

cheers
so sim/cid unlock
then flash hard spl 7 2.10
then flash my rom?

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