Greetings.
For the past few months, I have been trying to solve a problem with POP3 email. I have posted in the Ralph & Software sections to no avail.
The issue is how email gets sorted as it arrives. In outlook, email is properly sorted based on when it was sent to you. When using the Fuze and POP3 email however, the sort is all messed up. It sorts based on when you log in to check for messages, not when they were sent.
Take a look at the 2 pictures. One is the Outlook account and the other is the POP3 account.
You will see that they do not look the same, but they are for the same email address and both updated within a few seconds of each other. They should look the same, but they do not.
Does anyone know why this is the case? I need to use POP3 when I am not in the office and it does not really work the way it is supposed to. I have tried every imaginable ROM and the results are always the same. 6.5, 6.1 it doesn't matter. I fear that I may be forced to dump my poor beloved Ralph in favor of a BlackBerry if I cannot get this to work reliably.
I am still surprised that this does not seem to hold a larger disaffection. Perhaps not many of you use POP3 email accounts.
Thanks for any advice.
Doug M.
All my POP3 accounts get sorted by received date by default or I can change it in the TOOLS -> SORT BY menu. The pics aren't attached so I can't see what your talking about.
I am using aim mail and yahoo pop3 accounts and do not have this issue. As suggested previously, you may want to review your settings
dwmackay said:
Greetings.
For the past few months, I have been trying to solve a problem with POP3 email. I have posted in the Ralph & Software sections to no avail.
The issue is how email gets sorted as it arrives. In outlook, email is properly sorted based on when it was sent to you. When using the Fuze and POP3 email however, the sort is all messed up. It sorts based on when you log in to check for messages, not when they were sent.
Take a look at the 2 pictures. One is the Outlook account and the other is the POP3 account.
You will see that they do not look the same, but they are for the same email address and both updated within a few seconds of each other. They should look the same, but they do not.
Does anyone know why this is the case? I need to use POP3 when I am not in the office and it does not really work the way it is supposed to. I have tried every imaginable ROM and the results are always the same. 6.5, 6.1 it doesn't matter. I fear that I may be forced to dump my poor beloved Ralph in favor of a BlackBerry if I cannot get this to work reliably.
I am still surprised that this does not seem to hold a larger disaffection. Perhaps not many of you use POP3 email accounts.
Thanks for any advice.
Doug M.
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Looks to me as though your POP3 server is timestamping the messages as you access them, not when they arrived. My POP3 mailbox looks just like your Outlook one.
Cheers,
Steve.
Sorry about the missing pics. They are now attached.
The problem for me comes in when you do not check the POP account on a regular basis. As shown in the picture, the time stamp on the POP account seems to be when I did the download; in this case 9:21 am. So all of the messages get sorted based on the same date & time. Outlook email is sorted correctly based on when it was sent.
I have tried to use Tools>Sort By, but the time stamp seems to be the problem. In the example posted, the POP emails on the list are mixed up over about 3 days but all show 9:21 am. Lower in the list are messages from today.
Any help is appreciated.
Doug M.
StevePritchard said:
Looks to me as though your POP3 server is timestamping the messages as you access them, not when they arrived. My POP3 mailbox looks just like your Outlook one.
Cheers,
Steve.
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That is the strange thing. When you open the message, it has the correct "Sent" date. But when viewing the Inbox Header list, it has the wrong date. Take a look at the attached and you will see what I mean.
Thanks for the help.
Doug M.
I thought I just saw a cab that fixed that over in the Topaz forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4766831&postcount=1831
It's an SMS Timestamp fix but perhaps the bug also effects emails, which would make sense. The cab posted is in that link.
Problem Solved - Sort of...
Thanks for the replies. I tried the timestamp CAB to no avail. To experiement a bit I loaded a few other POP accounts from different hosting sites. They all worked fine. The problem must be with my work POP hosting account. I switched it to IMAP (which I did not know we had) and all is well.
Thanks again for the assist.
Doug M.
dwmackay said:
Thanks for the replies. I tried the timestamp CAB to no avail. To experiement a bit I loaded a few other POP accounts from different hosting sites. They all worked fine. The problem must be with my work POP hosting account. I switched it to IMAP (which I did not know we had) and all is well.
Thanks again for the assist.
Doug M.
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I love it when I'm right.
Glad you got it sorted.
Cheers,
Steve.
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Hi,
Originally back in 2000-2007 I was a Nokia and Blackberry User. Instant Emails I am very much used to, however I decided to take a break from Blackberry and right so as now everyone has one and I find it annoying! LOL!
in 2008 I got a Nokia e71, the email schedule was a crap annoying 15mins, so I decided to see if there is anything out there to speed it up!
I found emoze. This app was a lifesaver, once you got it to work ofcourse.
Now I am on a HD2 with a batter life equivalent to a snail on a motorway, (slow to move but quick to die)
I am in need for a more than 5mins schedule on my emails without the battery dying so quickly. I tried emoze on the HD2 but it does not work, it gets as far trying to add an account which then crashes.
I looked at the gmail push, problem is I have my own doman hosted email accounts I am not a fan of gmail, hotmail etc, as I am working professional and such accounts are frowned upon and not taken seriously.
Sorry for the story I thought i give you a understanding of where i am coming from etc.
Thanks.
Exactly something i am looking for too, and for exactly the same reason mentioned! i got my own domain too, so business mails are strictly on that, and hotmails good only for the "forwards"
Please help guys!
what are u guys talking about , if you need it for business , use exchange , if u're ok with google, use google sync for your gmails. Thats push email for you.
Agree, with above - MS Exchange server works like a charm!!
Emoze works on my HD2.
I've got two accounts configured on it, one is an Outlook Web Access (OWA) and the other is my own domain.
Re-try Emoze and let me know exactly what faults you are having and I'll do my best to help you.
mr3rown said:
Hi,
Originally back in 2000-2007 I was a Nokia and Blackberry User. Instant Emails I am very much used to, however I decided to take a break from Blackberry and right so as now everyone has one and I find it annoying! LOL!
in 2008 I got a Nokia e71, the email schedule was a crap annoying 15mins, so I decided to see if there is anything out there to speed it up!
I found emoze. This app was a lifesaver, once you got it to work ofcourse.
Now I am on a HD2 with a batter life equivalent to a snail on a motorway, (slow to move but quick to die)
I am in need for a more than 5mins schedule on my emails without the battery dying so quickly. I tried emoze on the HD2 but it does not work, it gets as far trying to add an account which then crashes.
I looked at the gmail push, problem is I have my own doman hosted email accounts I am not a fan of gmail, hotmail etc, as I am working professional and such accounts are frowned upon and not taken seriously.
Sorry for the story I thought i give you a understanding of where i am coming from etc.
Thanks.
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hi there....another app that as good as emoze (even better for me then emoze) is seven .....you should try it bro.
here is the like for it: http://www.seven.com/
thought it is still in beta, but it work great!
mail2web offer an exchange based email service. I've been using it for a year with no problems
yeah.. use seven
best push email for me, been using it since I was still using Eten M600
Hi guys,
Exchange
you make it sound like going out buying a dedicated server, install exchange and setup my emails (4 accounts in total) is a walk in the park.
dont get me wrong i do this stuff for a living, but my business has never had the need for an exchange server. and wont for a long time. so thats not an option.
emoze
i will try it again and see how it goes.
seven
never liked it much, as emoze was easier for me and suited my needs, even got a pro license as well.
mr3rown said:
Hi guys,
Exchange
you make it sound like going out buying a dedicated server, install exchange and setup my emails (4 accounts in total) is a walk in the park.
dont get me wrong i do this stuff for a living, but my business has never had the need for an exchange server. and wont for a long time. so thats not an option.
emoze
i will try it again and see how it goes.
seven
never liked it much, as emoze was easier for me and suited my needs, even got a pro license as well.
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Hi there,
im not quite sure if emoze works fine with the HD2, give it a try and tell us
emoze crashes!
Hi no emoze does not work on the HD2.
- it crashes on the part where you need to add the account settings for your pop3 server.
- also you get the Microsoft reporting error screen
- i remember one i could edit the settings but for some reason i get no joy this time.
gonna give seven a try.
seven
Seven also was a waste of time.
Not sure what to do next, gonna pm the guy that said he got emoze to work.
Do you not use Gmail because how the email address looks to clients or for security purposes?
If it's the first one, Gmail offers hosted email services for custom domain names. So you use their service and all the benefits that come with it but it would be [email protected].
seven: simply the best!
alexleon said:
seven: simply the best!
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+1................
Seven works awesome for me. Instant push mail.. I use it with Lotus Notes and its the best push mail connector service I have used. I have tried Emoze and mail2web services but like the seven best.
@mr3rown:
You should try Google's business package where they will host the email service for your domain name.
Most of the ISPs will host your domain email on their exchange servers and its cheap you never have to worry about your own servers and you can have as many emails as possible.
Google Hosted Emails
Right,
i took a look at the google hosted email, and volia, i have updated all my mx records and cnames etc, working fine on my clients, just now need to start setting it up on my HD2.
will post back with results.
Apologies if this is not what you guys are looking for but for push mail, I have 3 accounts on servers supporting imap-idle and I use Flexmail to check mail so I get instant notifications when mails come in and it doesn't poll the server in x-mins thus no battery drain.
I've been using this guy's homebrew solution without any problems. http://www.gudensoft.com/emailscheduler/
UncleBeer said:
I've been using this guy's homebrew solution without any problems.
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does this allow the use of imap idle (push) on outlook mobile?
I have syncd with exchange ("corporate') but the thumbnail pictures have not syncd. anyone know why / have or have not got a similar issue?
Same here. Syncing to Exchange 2010, but I get none of my contact photos.
Ed
I'm using Touchdown, no issues with pictures downloading for contacts from Exchange... Must be a native Exchange client issue.
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i'm having the same problem with contact thumbnails from my Exchange contacts as well. no issues with my other Android devices, only the Atrix4G. it must be a MotoBlah issue...
Ditto and very disappointing.
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this is not a solution for the contact pic sync issue, it's more an option. i stumbled across an app called Enhanced Email 1.16.2 that allows you to sync multiple exchange accounts, integrates into the stock calendar and contacts apps and it also synced my contact pics as well. the app also uses the volume key to increase/decrease font size in the emails. i had to shell out $10 bucks, but that investment is making my Atrix experience a little better and the contact pic sync issue is behind me. other features of the email app i like: it gives you the option to use the Exchange Pin. i said no and am using pattern lock instead.
EDIT: i did notice a (minor to me) bug; not all of my contacts birthdays were synced.
cortez.i said:
i stumbled across an app called Enhanced Email 1.16.2 that allows you to sync multiple exchange accounts
Fantastic tip. It was well worth the $10. It's kind of ironic my old hacked up HTC HD2 with WinMo wiped and Android running off the SD card had better email than the Atrix.
I'm looking forward to an update that improves email and fixes the slow internet speeds.
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umm, idk about you guys, but i have two exchange accounts synced off the stock rom.
my bigger issue is the lack of pictures.
cortez.i said:
this is not a solution for the contact pic sync issue, it's more an option. i stumbled across an app called Enhanced Email 1.16.2 that allows you to sync multiple exchange accounts, integrates into the stock calendar and contacts apps and it also synced my contact pics as well. the app also uses the volume key to increase/decrease font size in the emails. i had to shell out $10 bucks, but that investment is making my Atrix experience a little better and the contact pic sync issue is behind me. other features of the email app i like: it gives you the option to use the Exchange Pin. i said no and am using pattern lock instead.
EDIT: i did notice a (minor to me) bug; not all of my contacts birthdays were synced.
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can you post the URL for where I can find this. thanks
BTW anyone know how I can reverse black and white in emails? I dont like white on black (Sense is black on white which I find easier to read)
theknub said:
umm, idk about you guys, but i have two exchange accounts synced off the stock rom.
my bigger issue is the lack of pictures.
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yep. knew this as well. 2 things i miss with the stock email app (compared to the HTC Sense email app) is the ability to increase font size in email and the "hack" to disable the Exchange Pin requirements. and then there's the picture issue.
ekerbuddyeker said:
can you post the URL for where I can find this. thanks
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you can find the app in the Market.
I am having problems with the pictures not syncing too. We are also on Exchange 2010. Is everyone else using 2010, or are all versions of Exchange having problems. I only ask because when I decided to check the Motoblur info it only mentioned supporting Exchange 2003 and 2007, which I thought was odd.
This is also my first Motorola (in a long while), but after doing some quick research via Google, I see a lot of people complaining about the same thing from as much as a year ago on other Moto phones. Despite being nice hardware, I'm really irritated with the Motorola "experience" after coming off of my Captivate on Cognition.
Del_Usion said:
I am having problems with the pictures not syncing too. We are also on Exchange 2010. Is everyone else using 2010, or are all versions of Exchange having problems. I only ask because when I decided to check the Motoblur info it only mentioned supporting Exchange 2003 and 2007, which I thought was odd.
This is also my first Motorola (in a long while), but after doing some quick research via Google, I see a lot of people complaining about the same thing from as much as a year ago on other Moto phones. Despite being nice hardware, I'm really irritated with the Motorola "experience" after coming off of my Captivate on Cognition.
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No, the problem of contact pictures not being synchronized affects Motoblur talking to Exchange 2007 servers (like mine) as well.
I heartily second the disappointment in the email. For Exchange users Motoblur is a FAR WORSE experience than directly syncing with Android's built in utilities. I really miss the email on my Captivate... but that is the only thing I miss.
acabtp said:
No, the problem of contact pictures not being synchronized affects Motoblur talking to Exchange 2007 servers (like mine) as well.
I heartily second the disappointment in the email. For Exchange users Motoblur is a FAR WORSE experience than directly syncing with Android's built in utilities. I really miss the email on my Captivate... but that is the only thing I miss.
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You miss Exchange on Captivate? - I can't imagine why -
I couldn't see my read messages, I couldn't edit appointments i created, I could not mark messages as read in bulk. Worst of all was the lag - even with Voodoo lagfix if i attempted to delete 5 messages it took forever. No GAL access or it was for email address only. No subfolder sync support either. So the Atrix is missing picture sync, that i can deal with. I can't search the server, but again, a minor issue for me.
Del_Usion said:
I am having problems with the pictures not syncing too. We are also on Exchange 2010. Is everyone else using 2010, or are all versions of Exchange having problems. I only ask because when I decided to check the Motoblur info it only mentioned supporting Exchange 2003 and 2007, which I thought was odd.
This is also my first Motorola (in a long while), but after doing some quick research via Google, I see a lot of people complaining about the same thing from as much as a year ago on other Moto phones. Despite being nice hardware, I'm really irritated with the Motorola "experience" after coming off of my Captivate on Cognition.
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The issue occurs with Microsoft Exchange 2003 as well. I am facing this. It was working fine with my older phone the HTC Desire Z.
sekhar_777 said:
The issue occurs with Microsoft Exchange 2003 as well. I am facing this. It was working fine with my older phone the HTC Desire Z.
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From the reading that I did a few weeks back, it's a long-standing issue with the MotoBlur Exchange synchronization. HTC's Exchange synchronization does contact pictures, Motorola's doesn't.
We are using Exchange 2008 and my contact pictures also do not sync. This is a Huge thing for me.
Updated to 87, but no change in this feature. I was hoping this was a small thing that would be included when moving to 2.2.2. Looks like have to hold out hope until 2.3....
so I downloaded ENHANCED EMAIL, which IMHO has a better email handling program , but uses all the other stock programs for Contacts, Diary etc. it DOES SYNC pictures!
You need to remove your blur exchange account otherewise you get duplicates.
Enhanced email is easier to read, faster and just better IMHO
Hello, the Atrix has just been released in France and I'm fcacing the same problems : not possible to sync in Motoblur my contacts and Pictures of contacts.
Another big trouble, I'm not able to sort the contacts by Last Name/First Name : only First Name/Last Name.
It's a pitty as many other smartphones propose that (Samsung Galaxy S2,...)
BR
ludovic.audoin said:
Hello, the Atrix has just been released in France and I'm fcacing the same problems : not possible to sync in Motoblur my contacts and Pictures of contacts.
Another big trouble, I'm not able to sort the contacts by Last Name/First Name : only First Name/Last Name.
It's a pitty as many other smartphones propose that (Samsung Galaxy S2,...)
BR
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I also have got the picture issue. it's very annyoing!
we're using exchange server 2010
about last name / first name: i've been looking around forums but it seems to be not possible with this version of motoblur. i installed go contacts which can sort contacts by last name.
Saw a few threads mentioning there are issues with Gingerbread and outlook e-mail.
Anyone know how to get it working?
I tried touchdown, it helped me sync the calendar, but not the e-mails.
Mike
Some notes:
1: I've been able to get G-mail working.
2: Calendar will sync for Exchange.
3: Tried both touchdown and Moxier Pro.
4: Able to send an e-mail.
5: Have entered appropriate APN
6: Know exchange server will work with other Android phone running Gingerbread.
I found a post on the SE site which seems to indicate a solution.
http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/40628#40628
Tried contacting my Microsoft Exchange email server admin and he said the solution was specific to a particular setup
and that ours didn't match since we use Cisco routers.
Can anyone explain how the solution in this link is supposed to work? It seems to imply all that needs to be done is make
an adjustment in the MS Exchange server for the SE setup.
However, I don't understand enough of the explanation to understand what really needs to be done.
Mike
Found the answer.
I'm surprised no one else has run into this issue. Issue turned out to be the last thing I would have expected.
My inbox was too big! I never considered this would be an issue since I set the retrieve option for 3 days worth of my e-mail.
There's some sort of issue with the way the sync works. The guys at touch down helped me identify this problem.
Maybe this will save some other poor soul hours of investigation.
Here is a tool that was helpful for testing the active sync connection. active sync diagnostic.
I'd recommend using touchdown to because it can also be useful for tracking down why e-mail connectivity isn't working. They provide a diagnostic log. They also have a very helpful google groups community.
Regards,
Mike
Hi. Is there a known glitch with the Android Email App where it takes emails off the server when in POP3 configuration, even when you have the "Don't Delete From Server" option on "Never"? I'm experiencing this problem. Is there a fix?
Thanks,
-Adam
IIRC "Don't delete from server" is a traditional client config setting that controls whether or not the email is deleted at the time it is polled by the POP client. It does not necessarily control whether or not the client later reaches out and tells the server to delete an arbitary message, and I think this ambiguity is the issue.
My guess is Android is deleting the message from the server when it's deleted from the phone. See the last few posts here.
The workaround I see folks using is to set the "last N days" setting low and letting them fall off the phone's view rather than deleting them.
I haven't used POPn in a while so input welcomed from more knowledgeable folks.
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My guess is Android is deleting the message from the server when it's deleted from the phone. See the last few posts here.
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It takes an email off the server as soon as one's delivered (into the inbox). I'll check out the link. Thanks.
adam79 said:
It takes an email off the server as soon as one's delivered (into the inbox). I'll check out the link. Thanks.
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I just read through the link. I took the advice of setting up the email client on my computer to leave mail on the server, but it still gets removed when I receive it on my phone.. maybe it's time to call T-Mobile.
But the desktop client leaves it on the server? If so, sounds like an Android problem and I figure TMO will be useless. Hopefully someone else jumps in to clue us in. I don't have a pop+webmail account handy to use for testing (and I'm running CM7).
Are you running the stock T-mobile ROM that came with the phone? Would it be acceptable to try some other (free) POP3 client from the android market?
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But the desktop client leaves it on the server?
Are you running the stock T-mobile ROM that came with the phone? Would it be acceptable to try some other (free) POP3 client from the android market?
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When I receive the email on my desktop, I can't get it on my phone.. even though I have it set to keep the messages on the server. This is weird!
I know that POP3 is kind of outdated and IMAP is the new popular standard. I'd switch it over to IMAP, but I don't like how when I delete messages from the Inbox, they reappear the next time I check my email.
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Are you running the stock T-mobile ROM that came with the phone? Would it be acceptable to try some other (free) POP3 client from the android market?
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Yeah, I'm running the stock ROM. What POP3 Client would you recommend from the market?
Thanks,
-Adam
Actually, I think the weirdness is on the server, since the desktop client won't leave them there either. If you share who the mail provider is someone might chime in with info or a fix.
Dunno any 3rd party pop3 apps, as I don't use them.
Hey folks
I am having an issue with my HTC Evo 3D where I am unable to have more than one active Exchange Activesync (EAS) account syncing. I'm trying to have my work e-mail and my hotmail account with push using EAS.
What I have tried:
- Setting up my work e-mail, then my hotmail. Can receive work e-mails instantly, but not with hotmail.
- Setting up my hotmail, then my work e-mail. Can receive hotmail e-mails instantly, but not with my work e-mail.
- Setting up my work e-mail in one mail client, and my hotmail in a separate client. Same issues as above, one receiving push e-mail and the other not.
And here's something funny: If I set up one and then the other in the default HTC mail client, the first one will work with push the but second one won't. BUT, if I then do a manual sync to make the second one "catch up", that second one will start receiving with push but the first one no longer does. I can keep doing this, and it seems like only one can be "active" at a time.
I've tried different clients with the same results, and tried Touchdown which many people recommend, but Touchdown is built to allow only one active profile at a time (so only one EAS account pushing or polling).
I'm beginning to think it's a device limitation on the Evo 3D but it would be great to get around that - I've seen bits and pieces around saying that, due to licencing, iPhones can have up to 5 EAS accounts at a time, and different Android phones can have varying numbers, but haven't seen anything particularly clear or definitive.
Any help would be much appreciated. I'm running stock ROM, ICS 4.0.3.
Cheers
I've moved this post to the Evo 3D part of the forum... tried the Edit/Delete button to delete this one but can't seem to see a delete option..?
Mods feel free to delete this.
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