il have no problem rooting my hero, as i have done alot like this. *although i have never rooted a phone
I just havnt seen any reason too yet, i feel like im missing out!
so my question is, what are the benefits? also is it possible to completely restore it in case i have to use the manufacturers warranty?
(1.5 update on white gsm, unlocked hero, in canada, phone from somewhere in europe)
seriously dude, you could have found that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543940
well yea i saw that
but like all those things are pretty general..
i mean like are there any themes that are so amazing its worth the root?
stuff like that..
i guess, what are peoples fav part about rooting there phone?
themes are installed from the recovery image, so there is basically no need for root. i personally need root for wireless tether, ssh, backup, and just because "i am root on my devices".
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Hi. I just ordered the HTC Hero but I'm not sure what version OS it will ship with.
Whats the official latest? Will I have to root and all that stuff to install it?
What are Radio's? What do they do? Why would I need to install/update one?
Are there any risks or downsides to rooting the device?
If I do the official update, will I lose the ability to install custom ROMs? If I root it to install custom ROMs, will I lose the ability to install official updates?
Thats all for now... I might ask more questions.
Thanks in advance.
Well done! You do have some tastes!
Just forget about all your questions. Get used to Hero first.
Visit forum pages for knowledge and info for a month from today.
After that you will be answering and helping others.
Regards.
Fair enough, thanks
But I know people just say "dont mess up". I'm just curious as to what the worst case scenario is if you DO mess up.
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Fair enough, thanks
But I know people just say "dont mess up". I'm just curious as to what the worst case scenario is if you DO mess up.
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Worst case scenario?
What happened to *this* guy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585269
But you'd really have to be not careful when you do things...
Main things to remember when you're looking at things: if it doesn't say CDMA, it's likely for the GSM version of the phone and won't work.
If all else fails: ask here about specifics...and if it still breaks things, there's always the RUUs for your provider (assuming it's on the list: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622)
Hm cool, thanks!
I'll most likely only install the latest *official* RUU when I get my phone. Modding I guess will have to wait a bit, but its good to know that effing up is ... hard
Use and enjoy your Hero and determine what do you want from it ie usb tethering, skype on 3, sip application for which no roots needed. At present wifi tethering does need root. So not everyone will want to go root way.
If you still go root way , I suggest to read about it. Reading is harder! And its a 10 minute job once fully understood.
Have been reading any and all Rooting Posts and I have come to the conclusion that as of now, Most, if not all of the Rooting techniques are a shot in the dark.
If there is one good way that is reliable and doesn't screw up one thing or another than I have not seen it.
Example......Superoneclick....works on one phone but not the next....Roms....need more fixes to get to work than Microsoft.....
Tell me is there a proven way to unlock the bootloader, Root the phone and get Gingerbread to work fully ?
I may be new to this site and believe me I would love to have a open phone....But I have other things to do than F around trying to get a already KickAss phone to work.....Just saying....
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Have been reading any and all Rooting Posts and I have come to the conclusion that as of now, Most, if not all of the Rooting techniques are a shot in the dark.
If there is one good way that is reliable and doesn't screw up one thing or another than I have not seen it.
Example......Superoneclick....works on one phone but not the next....Roms....need more fixes to get to work than Microsoft.....
Tell me is there a proven way to unlock the bootloader, Root the phone and get Gingerbread to work fully ?
I may be new to this site and believe me I would love to have a open phone....But I have other things to do than F around trying to get a already KickAss phone to work.....Just saying....
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There are lots of tutorials in the Development forum on how to do this.
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT preinstall method is the one IS SAFE and FUNCTIONAL
JaB062 said:
Have been reading any and all Rooting Posts and I have come to the conclusion that as of now, Most, if not all of the Rooting techniques are a shot in the dark.
If there is one good way that is reliable and doesn't screw up one thing or another than I have not seen it.
Example......Superoneclick....works on one phone but not the next....Roms....need more fixes to get to work than Microsoft.....
Tell me is there a proven way to unlock the bootloader, Root the phone and get Gingerbread to work fully ?
I may be new to this site and believe me I would love to have a open phone....But I have other things to do than F around trying to get a already KickAss phone to work.....Just saying....
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you need to do more reading, no one uses superoneclick for the atrix... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1165791
Read the stickies..
Have you ever opened the android dev section?
Almost everything is in the sticky thread of clown.. With faqs guides etc..
Unlock your bootloader depending what atrix you have(att or international), then install the tenfars port of CWM4, and then you can root using the CWM root method..
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Have been reading any and all Rooting Posts and I have come to the conclusion that as of now, Most, if not all of the Rooting techniques are a shot in the dark.
If there is one good way that is reliable and doesn't screw up one thing or another than I have not seen it.
Example......Superoneclick....works on one phone but not the next....Roms....need more fixes to get to work than Microsoft.....
Tell me is there a proven way to unlock the bootloader, Root the phone and get Gingerbread to work fully ?
I may be new to this site and believe me I would love to have a open phone....But I have other things to do than F around trying to get a already KickAss phone to work.....Just saying....
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To build on your Microsoft comment...............Some software is not compatible with all versions of Windows. The Atrix came out with Windows 95, has made it to XP, and with GB will be Windows 7. If you are not happy with the devs work, what they have done for everyone, and can't filter through the threads to get what you want, maybe you should get an iPhone and stick Cydia on it!......Or get a Windows phone because you won't have to "fix" anything on it!
If you want help, then you have started out the wrong way. Your post needs to be objective, and not flaming all the work others have done because you can't implement any of it, and are confused.
Root, ROM's, etc., do not need a bunch of fixes............you just have to READ so you know which ones work together for what you want. If you had actually taken the time, you would know that the bootloader has been unlocked, root is working, and GB is awesome. You just have to check the instructions for what you want on your Atrix, whether it be AT&T, Orange, Bell, etc.
Personally, I am on an AT&T Atrix 4G with unlocked bootloader, rooted, with GB 4.5.91, and have absolutely no complaints ot problems!
Since you don't want to F around, watch that door................it's heavy and swings closed fast.........wouldn't want it to hit you between the buttocks on the way out!
Bell ATRIX, unlocked bootloader, rooted, running 2.3.4. No problems
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JaB062 said:
Have been reading any and all Rooting Posts and I have come to the conclusion that as of now, Most, if not all of the Rooting techniques are a shot in the dark.
If there is one good way that is reliable and doesn't screw up one thing or another than I have not seen it.
Example......Superoneclick....works on one phone but not the next....Roms....need more fixes to get to work than Microsoft.....
Tell me is there a proven way to unlock the bootloader, Root the phone and get Gingerbread to work fully ?
I may be new to this site and believe me I would love to have a open phone....But I have other things to do than F around trying to get a already KickAss phone to work.....Just saying....
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Thanks for the post, gave me a nice lol. I lol'd.
Hello there, Since I am somewhat poor and I´m still under my parents wing... I upgrade phones about every 5 years, (well at least until I start working) so i was really outdated with phones but i did my homework and got to the conclusion that Android based phones are the best price x performance/ features.. specifically Motorola brand around the $200 mark so my decision was between the Droid 3, Photon 4g & Atrix 4G.. I decided for the Atrix with the lapdock which i think is the best feature until now!
This it my first smartphone ever! laugh at this.. I´m upgrading form a Motorola Rokr em35 which i remember that i bought for $180 because it was a music player based phone that had a 3.5mm headphone jack! and now i bought the atrix with the lapdock for $250 on eBay.
Im just learning how to use the phone I´m hoping for some guidance on some things i should and shouldn't do!
first off.. My phone is blocked.. so Im thinking about buying an unlock code for about $2 since its blocked in my country (Dom. Rep.) ,, hows that about?
i want to learn all about the cool stuff i can do with the phone.
learn about custom roms and themes... Ive heard theres roms that are really optimized for the Atrix 4G and even overclocked!! but i dont want to loose the webtop ability?
I heard that you can make a partition on a micro sd and install a Full Ubuntu OS ... which im most exited about! even thought ive never used linux!
Luckily im into computers since I study computer science/engineering and these things shouldn't be hard for me to learn.
im really eager to get on to this stuff and I hope i can get somebody to guide and help me though all this! i hope this is the right place
Before doing any unlocking, or custom roms, etc. READ, RE-READ IT, THEN READ IT ALL AGAIN. until you understand what you are doing.
as for ubuntu ( linux ) on your phone, you said that you never used linux before. I would learn the basics with linux, on a computer, before slapping it on your phone and not understading the OS. But thats up to you. its just easier to learn it on a pc from start, rather than on a phone that you dont even understand yet.
No question here, is a dumb question, so ask away, ( just remember to search before asking so ya dont get the crap flammed out of ya )
once ya start learning linux, you will love it. its better than windows.
Good Luck!
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Before doing any unlocking, or custom roms, etc. READ, RE-READ IT, THEN READ IT ALL AGAIN. until you understand what you are doing.
as for ubuntu ( linux ) on your phone, you said that you never used linux before. I would learn the basics with linux, on a computer, before slapping it on your phone and not understading the OS. But thats up to you. its just easier to learn it on a pc from start, rather than on a phone that you dont even understand yet.
No question here, is a dumb question, so ask away, ( just remember to search before asking so ya dont get the crap flammed out of ya )
once ya start learning linux, you will love it. its better than windows.
Good Luck!
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thanks, I´ll read as much as I have to.. can you post me some good links on these sfuff.. but first i wanna unlock and root the phone. I seen vendors on ebay that provide you with an unlock code for your IMEI. should i do that¿
edit: btw i am familiar with ubuntus UI since Ive used it a few times but never had it personally for me so i dont now things like commands lines and that advanced stuff. i just like the idea of using the lapdock as a notebook and not being limited by the ROM/OS ... would be good for collage.
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thanks, I´ll read as much as I have to.. can you post me some good links on these sfuff.. but first i wanna unlock and root the phone. I seen vendors on ebay that provide you with an unlock code for your IMEI. should i do that¿
edit: btw i am familiar with ubuntus UI since Ive used it a few times but never had it personally for me so i dont now things like commands lines and that advanced stuff. i just like the idea of using the lapdock as a notebook and not being limited by the ROM/OS ... would be good for collage.
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the wiki has most the guides, roms, and other stuff listed out, and its mostly up to date.. you should definitely read through the noob guide first because it has all the terminology you'll be seeing throughout the rest of the forums
If you want to keep your webtop the roms I would recommend are darkside or wetdream, both by Nottach..they have a ton of great features..of course there are others and I recommend you go through all of them and find whats right for you..just avoid cyanogen mod(CM7, CM9) based roms because they do not include webtop or any close alternative for now
Just remember, take your time on rooting and unlocking your bootloader, because you can really mess things up, but after that everything else should be pretty easy..
And don't worry too much about your rom selection, if you back everything up properly you should be able to switch roms in under an hour, so you can try out many different roms before settling on which one you like best(such a hard choice!)
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the wiki has most the guides, roms, and other stuff listed out, and its mostly up to date.. you should definitely read through the noob guide first because it has all the terminology you'll be seeing throughout the rest of the forums
If you want to keep your webtop the roms I would recommend are darkside or wetdream, both by Nottach..they have a ton of great features..of course there are others and I recommend you go through all of them and find whats right for you..just avoid cyanogen mod(CM7, CM9) based roms because they do not include webtop or any close alternative for now
Just remember, take your time on rooting and unlocking your bootloader, because you can really mess things up, but after that everything else should be pretty easy..
And don't worry too much about your rom selection, if you back everything up properly you should be able to switch roms in under an hour, so you can try out many different roms before settling on which one you like best(such a hard choice!)
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thanks so much for being kind with this noob
It can't be overstated though. READ. I've been toying with my Atrix for a couple of months now, and came close to bricking my phone since I didn't read it all. By all I don't mean only posts about the developer, but problems people have encountered with their specific atrix model.
You've got to read a lot though.
The Atrix was my first Android and I have to say I couldn't be happier with the level of customisation you can get.
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It can't be overstated though. READ. I've been toying with my Atrix for a couple of months now, and came close to bricking my phone since I didn't read it all. By all I don't mean only posts about the developer, but problems people have encountered with their specific atrix model.
You've got to read a lot though.
The Atrix was my first Android and I have to say I couldn't be happier with the level of customisation you can get.
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yes, im reading the wiki link thewarhawk gave me, i want to be careful not to brick it.. because i cant send it back to the US to att ... if any thing i´ll make another help me thread
I bought a photon last week thats on Ntelos Frawg. so theres that... it works great, but its also rooted. i didnt do it, and dont know anything about rooting. ive been trying to look into it but its just not my thing. dont get it. sorry for being so nooby, but i didnt ask for it lol. anyway, how can i see whats already been done to it, and how can i know what could b done to it? the guy who sold it to me can do stuff to it. but i gotta know what i want him to do. please! any help will be appreciated.
Theres a free app in the market called "root checker" or something along those lines, its an easy way to check if you have root. You can tell if the bootloader is unlocked by looking at the top left corner of your screen when it is first booting, if it says "unlocked" then your bootloader is unlocked. It will show it while at the Moto dual core screen. I'd personally read up on rooting, unlocking, and all that goodstuff so you know what you have/can do. But basically root allows you to install apps that unleash androids true potential that you cant use without having root access, like free wifi tether, etc. Unlocking your bootloader allows you to install a new recovery(ClockworkMod usually) which then allows you to flash new ROMS and Kernels. I wont go into much depth there but it basically allows you to customize your phone how YOU want it to be, via Roms, Kernels, Themes, and all that. Currently with our Photon though you will lose Sprint 4g(Wimax) by unlocking the bootloader so if its important to you than you may not want to unlock the bootloader. Theres plenty of threads on XDA and other sites too that have loads on info on CWM, ROMS, Root, and everything. QBKing77 has a bunch of SUPER great Youtube videos for us Photon owners(and other phones) so be sure to look for those! If you have any more questions or anything feel free to PM me or post on the forums!
^^^ this
and make sure not to pay him for all these "awesome services". the tools are all here for free. i dont charge anyone for teh one click, theres no reason for anyone to charge others for it
@shabby i actually have your kernel and im totally satisfied, the only thing i really want right now is the slide to wake feature. Does it support it? And if not, im having a hard time finding one that does without losing stuff i do need. I guess it might only be for the evo right now?
Well i think anyway lol.
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@shabby i actually have your kernel and im totally satisfied, the only thing i really want right now is the slide to wake feature. Does it support it? And if not, im having a hard time finding one that does without losing stuff i do need. I guess it might only be for the evo right now?
Well i think anyway lol.
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Cant speak for him, but im pretty sure whoever made the slide to wake feature hasnt released the source code yet, and without that the devs cant really do much but wait. Here is a link to the thread where people were discussing it for the Photon, im sure if/when we get it that this thread will be updated or a comment posted.
.....but it seems they are soooooo ignorant.arrogant over on the V50 forum.
Weeks ago i posted a simple question asking in the V50 can can be rooted (UK) Hundreds have viewed buy zero answeres.
Seen as thoguh I only recently gave my mother the V30.....can u pretty please let me help me out and any ideas if v60 can be rooted?
thanks
Matt
You may want to be more clear on what you're asking for... you mention 3 phones in your post, so I'm not sure which one you're askign about, really. I assume it's not the V30. That said, the V60 shows very little ROM development, which makes me think it's not rooted. Lack of ROMs generally means there is no root.
The V50 has a few ROMs, so that implies it probably does have root capability...
That said, I realize the principles that people have regarding rooting... I was once in that camp myself. But these days, I find it's hard to get it... and it really may not be necessary. I gave up root on my current S10 for this reason, even though it can be rooted in specific situations. For this reason, I question the real "necessity" of it.
i wan to root my V50 just for the sake os system app remover and titanium backp.
thanks
Matt
As I've learned on my new S10, TiBu hasn't been updated in many years and doesn't quite work as well as it used to either. People have had to find alternative apps to do those tasks. In Samsung-land, Samsung Switch works pretty well for this purpose, and doesn't require root. There are others.
Similarly, you don't need root to remove system apps on the S10 either - you can remove them via ADB these days. I'm guessing you can probably do the same on the V50. However, IMO you don't need to remove system apps as much these days because phones have lots more memory and Android is more efficient in dealing with background apps.
To each their own, but the old ways of doing things may have been superceded... so you may not need root anymore... not that you can get it as easily either.