Hi everyone. I'm a newbie of cooked rom scene. I want to flash my athena with ap4. I've understand that to run a proper installation i've to check the correct version of radio. But my question is do i've to unlock the athena first with athena unlocker? Or is it enough follow every steps of this guide:
http://www.htc-hackers.com/uploads/AP4_How_To_1.8.pdf
Thank you
Sorry. I found the answer by myself. I have to run the unlocker to get spl 1.2 and then i can flash a new spl 1.2 rom.
I read all the guides about unlock and upgrade Athena but i've one doubt. My athena is an x7500 with a windows mobile 6 rom provided by htc. After i unlock it, can i flash the AP4 rom immediately or do i have to flash one of spl 1.2 rom first and then the AP4?
Please answer.
Thank you.
kingmob said:
I read all the guides about unlock and upgrade Athena but i've one doubt. My athena is an x7500 with a windows mobile 6 rom provided by htc. After i unlock it, can i flash the AP4 rom immediately or do i have to flash one of spl 1.2 rom first and then the AP4?
Please answer.
Thank you.
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Hi kingmob,
Yes you can flash AP4 to get spl 3.5 , but I would suggest you experiment first flashing the spl 1.2 roms to get some experience as sometimes the ap4 upgrade goes a bit awry.
regards lakeman
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Hello
I.m new in the forum,i'm writing from italy and here i'can't find a valid and perfect forum like this,
yesterday i had my new Uk Vpa Compact 1605(Herm200) , with
Ipl 1.01
Spl 1.09
Os 5.1.461(Build 15671.3.3.0)
Rom vers. 2.07.161.1 released the 2nd of giune 2007
Radio 1.32.00.00
Protocol 32.65.7020.09W
At the end of the day i flashed Hardspl with new ipl 1.04 and spl 2.10
and new official Wm6.
now my questions is.. Can i reflash in my Vodafone 1605 all the original rom ,spl,ipl,radio, Os etc. etc. ???
If it is possible,where can i find all the file?
Thank you to alla for the help and congratulations for this fantastic forum
zetax said:
Hello
I.m new in the forum,i'm writing from italy and here i'can't find a valid and perfect forum like this,
yesterday i had my new Uk Vpa Compact 1605(Herm200) , with
Ipl 1.01
Spl 1.09
Os 5.1.461(Build 15671.3.3.0)
Rom vers. 2.07.161.1 released the 2nd of giune 2007
Radio 1.32.00.00
Protocol 32.65.7020.09W
At the end of the day i flashed Hardspl with new ipl 1.04 and spl 2.10
and new official Wm6.
now my questions is.. Can i reflash in my Vodafone 1605 all the original rom ,spl,ipl,radio, Os etc. etc. ???
If it is possible,where can i find all the file?
Thank you to alla for the help and congratulations for this fantastic forum
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Hi & welcome!
Ok..understand your problem and this is your first post and maybe you thought, "aah nice forum, He WM6 that looks nice, lets flash it on my device" ..Right simple ah? But..what you forgot..is to backup or read more about flashing..You cant reset it back to the original (what you wanna call it) "firmware"...
Bram87 said:
Hi & welcome!
Ok..understand your problem and this is your first post and maybe you thought, "aah nice forum, He WM6 that looks nice, lets flash it on my device" ..Right simple ah? But..what you forgot..is to backup or read more about flashing..You cant reset it back to the original (what you wanna call it) "firmware"...
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Well, this is not EXACTLY correct. Check out THIS LINK for downgrade directions. You will need to get the original ROM from somewhere. It is possible that it is HERE IN THE WIKI. Chances are that one of the files there has the same Radio, IPL & SPL. You will just need to find the OS, if it is not in there. (In fact, based on the specs, it looks like the third from the bottom of the English ones - Vodafone?) To flash, you will need dutty's good nbh tool to unpack the ROM, becuase you will need to do the IPL and SPL separately from the OS and radio. See THIS LINK for that info. If you don't want to get into all the unpacking, you *could* do the SPL downgrade first, then the upgrade, but it is generally good practice to downgrade SPL as a LAST step since you lose the hardspl protection as soon as you do it. Finally, use the google search link in my signature if you need to find anything else. Good luck.
zetax said:
Hello
I.m new in the forum,i'm writing from italy and here i'can't find a valid and perfect forum like this,
yesterday i had my new Uk Vpa Compact 1605(Herm200) , with
Ipl 1.01
Spl 1.09
Os 5.1.461(Build 15671.3.3.0)
Rom vers. 2.07.161.1 released the 2nd of giune 2007
Radio 1.32.00.00
Protocol 32.65.7020.09W
At the end of the day i flashed Hardspl with new ipl 1.04 and spl 2.10
and new official Wm6.
now my questions is.. Can i reflash in my Vodafone 1605 all the original rom ,spl,ipl,radio, Os etc. etc. ???
If it is possible,where can i find all the file?
Thank you to alla for the help and congratulations for this fantastic forum
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Like Todd said it is possible.
Check out the links in my signature and read alot before actually doing so.....
That is a practice tip
The Mr VanX guide alias HTC Hermes guide has complete steps to do this!
Good Luck
Ok, tell me if i correctly understand..
I found the correct rom, after i have to unpack this rom with dutty's good nbh tool..(i have to remove Ipl & Spl?).
After the unpack i have to pack again the rom without ipl and spl and flash it in my Herm??!!is it correct? And in the end i have to change ipl and spl(is it a down grade?).
Last questions yet,
What i have to verify first that i start all this work on my herm to not brick my Herm?
Thank you to all again for the help that you are giving to me
All the best
I may have made it more complicated. That is the process I use.
Best thing to do is simply follow Mrvanx guides.
First downgrade the OS/Radio using THIS GUIDE
Then downgrade SPL/IPL using THIS GUIDE
That is all - as long as you have HardSPL, it is VERY hard to brick your device. So, do that last.
Is possible to flash only the rom i need following the guide, and leave my device with the current hardspl ipl and spl?
Thank you
zetax said:
Is possible to flash only the rom i need following the guide, and leave my device with the current hardspl ipl and spl?
Thank you
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Yes. The only reason to remove HardSPL is for warranty. Just for clarification, there is no Hard IPL, only Hard SPL, but I know what you mean.
Basically, 99% of the time most of us flash we are only flashing OS or Radio. SPL and IPL don't change often. Most cooked ROMs are released as OS only.
Ah ok perfect, i'm not interested to the device warranty, because i bought it on ebay from Uk, and there is no warranty on my device, so i can only flash os without ipl and spl..
Thank you very much fo all the help
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Hey boy,
sorry for the up, but i have another question(s)
I have downloaded the rom that i need, but it is in .exe extension how can i extract from this .exe the .nbh file that i will decompile with dutty's???
2nd question, it's possible to downgrade radio rom? i put radio 1.51.00.10 in my device,but i didn't like it, because the 1.47 version
that i had was better of 1.51
Thank you for help
zetax said:
Hey boy,
sorry for the up, but i have another question(s)
I have downloaded the rom that i need, but it is in .exe extension how can i extract from this .exe the .nbh file that i will decompile with dutty's???
2nd question, it's possible to downgrade radio rom? i put radio 1.51.00.10 in my device,but i didn't like it, because the 1.47 version
that i had was better of 1.51
Thank you for help
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No worries.
To unpack the exe, just use winrar and open it up. You will get a RUU_signed.nbh and an RUU. Just use the nbh file with the custom_ruu.
Yes, you can downgrade radio to 1.47 safely. No worries. I tried 1.51 too - didn't work out for me either. back to 1.50 for me.
todd_jg said:
No worries.
To unpack the exe, just use winrar and open it up. You will get a RUU_signed.nbh and an RUU. Just use the nbh file with the custom_ruu.
Yes, you can downgrade radio to 1.47 safely. No worries. I tried 1.51 too - didn't work out for me either. back to 1.50 for me.
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Todd, thanks very much, i didn't know that with winrar was possible to unpack an .exe file,now i have all i need to flash my device with the hold or the new vodafone uk rom.
Tnx my friend
I have done the flashing, it works perfect.. now i learn the way, i can flash every kind of Os in my tytn following this way?for example o2(Uk) os can be put in my device?
Where here in xda forum can i find the software(for eample the software that shaps have included in his Os) for my device customization?like today home,weather widget, or the automatic operator configurator etc etc?
Tnx todd
Please don't reply asking me to search ...
I did and actually didn't find anywhere
the Hard SPL 3.5 for Athena
Anyone to know and post a source?
Thx a million
You didn't search enough
If your Athena is already unlocked and with SPL 1.2, just flash AP4 because it contains the SPL3.5 upgrader and there is not stand alone SPL3.5 upgrader yet ( read cmonex posts) and from there you can flash any other SPL 3.5 rom, or keep AP4 as its excellent anyway.
If the athena has the stock SPL just unlock it with Olinex unlocker firs, search how to do this properly to avoid problems and yes the unlocker AP4 and instructions how to do and procedures to follow shall you got into problems are easy to find.
good luck
Hi
I was familiar with up ROM for SPL 1.2
But in order to up ROM to SPL 3.5 version, I spent 6 hours to read all, all, all... and I still confuse.
No one says about the way to upgrade SPL from 1.2 to 3.x
As I knew, AP 4.0 can upgrade from directly from (???) - because in the instruction of AP 4.0 installing, they did not talk about the version of SPL, they only say that it must be 3.x, and 3.5 was attached in AP 4.0
But also they said that if up ROm 3.5 for SPL 1.2 it will make the phone be a brick one.
So confuse here.
Pls forgive me, because I am a newbie, so much information here (even I tried to search many times, but no result for me to know about that way)
So, pls help me to answer this question.
Thank you very much
vqscorpions said:
Hi
I was familiar with up ROM for SPL 1.2
But in order to up ROM to SPL 3.5 version, I spent 6 hours to read all, all, all... and I still confuse.
No one says about the way to upgrade SPL from 1.2 to 3.x
As I knew, AP 4.0 can upgrade from directly from (???) - because in the instruction of AP 4.0 installing, they did not talk about the version of SPL, they only say that it must be 3.x, and 3.5 was attached in AP 4.0
But also they said that if up ROm 3.5 for SPL 1.2 it will make the phone be a brick one.
So confuse here.
Pls forgive me, because I am a newbie, so much information here (even I tried to search many times, but no result for me to know about that way)
So, pls help me to answer this question.
Thank you very much
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from the beginners guide sticky at the top of this forum
SPL3.5 Upgrade
OK if you got this far You should be able to do this.
**First step is to install AP4**
At the moment there is only 1 foolproof way to do this and this is to use the Athena Updater
But first read the upgrade Guide Please Here http://www.htc-hackers.com/uploads/AP4_How_To_1.8.pdf
It is very detailed and I recommend following it exactly !!
This is the link to the athena Updater
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387409
This simply answers your question!
Please read the Upgrade Guide
thank you Lakeman
It is clear now for me.
As I know now, installing AP 4 is one process which also includes the "up SPL 3.5". That's why I could not find out any thread about alone SPL 3.5
Also, it means that AP 4 will support SPL 3.5 for any other upROM 3.5.
I know that the file PDF is VERY CLEAR about the process to Up Ap4
(however, it is not clear to talk about SPL 3.5 for newbie, who still doesn't know where SPL 3.5 is).
So I guess that, the Instruction file for AP4 SHOULD attach more one sentence " The SPL 3.5 is not alone until now to install, it is attached to AP 4 ROM, and it will be THE FIRST VERY IMPORTANT step to CONVERT Athena into SPL 3.5".
I am sure that, after that, the most stupid one can be known.
Thank you again.
All ROMs thread updated!
hello
does any of you know if there is a way to update the rom to AP4 via minisd card? I have learned to do it this way with most of the new roms apart from this one and unfortunately my usb is down so I can't use it.
mietulok said:
hello
does any of you know if there is a way to update the rom to AP4 via minisd card? I have learned to do it this way with most of the new roms apart from this one and unfortunately my usb is down so I can't use it.
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I am pretty sure it has to be off a usb cable, sorry dude
Hello,
I have AT&T 8525 with Windows Mobile 5.0
Should I upgrade to WM 6 before installing HARD SPL?
Or upgrade after installing HARD SPL
What does hard spl do?
If you are going to upgrade to AT&T 8525 WM 6 official ROM then no need to do a HARDSPL but if you are going to used WM 6 Cooked ROM then it is a MUST to do a HARDSPL.
AFAIK
HardSPL will allow you to flash your unit with a unofficial release ROM or Cooked ROM, or even the other brand official ROM as long as it is for Hermes.
here's a link from the wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HardSPL
hope it helps....
Happy Holiday......
Alright, got official wm 6.0,
Installing HardSPL, no luck keep getting Error 260, it loses connection with the device for no reason, I'm wondering why there isn't a straight forward Hard-SPL readme, that says how to install it, the instructions are all over the place...
Please go to the HardSPL thread with your questions.
Hi,
I won an auction for a T-Mobile Ameo and started to do my homework, while the phone doesn't arrive.
I already own a BlueAngel and two Universal, so it should not be that new to me. However, I do have a few questions:
SPL: as I understand it, this is like a second stage boot loader. There is the V1.2 by Oli, which is like patched to allow any firmware to be installed, as oposed to the original one, which only allows to flash signed firmware matching the country ID. Is this more or less correct?
SPL 3.5: there is a new second stage boot loader, which is required for WM6.1 like the AP4.0. Correct?
Downgrade back to SPL 1.2: this is now possible again?
Last question: there seems to be official 6.1 firmware versions from T-Mobile.
Can I just upgrade the WM5 untouched Ameo to the official WM6.1?
What if I have the german WM5 and want to use T-Mobile's WWE 6.1 instead of the german one?
Is there any stupid combination of firmware and SPL that will lead to a brick or a dead end?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
vma
I am newbie with X7500
vma said:
Hi,
I won an auction for a T-Mobile Ameo and started to do my homework, while the phone doesn't arrive.
I already own a BlueAngel and two Universal, so it should not be that new to me. However, I do have a few questions:
SPL: as I understand it, this is like a second stage boot loader. There is the V1.2 by Oli, which is like patched to allow any firmware to be installed, as oposed to the original one, which only allows to flash signed firmware matching the country ID. Is this more or less correct?
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I think is correct.
vma said:
SPL 3.5: there is a new second stage boot loader, which is required for WM6.1 like the AP4.0. Correct?
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SPL 3.5 is for ROMs adapted from X7510 (but not for X7510)
vma said:
Downgrade back to SPL 1.2: this is now possible again?
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Yes.
vma said:
Last question: there seems to be official 6.1 firmware versions from T-Mobile.
Can I just upgrade the WM5 untouched Ameo to the official WM6.1?
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Yes.
vma said:
What if I have the german WM5 and want to use T-Mobile's WWE 6.1 instead of the german one?
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You must make superCID in your X7500 (>>>SPL1.2)
vma said:
Is there any stupid combination of firmware and SPL that will lead to a brick or a dead end?
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I think ROM for SPL3.5 in SPL1.x and for SPL1.x in SPL 3.5
Thanks for the resonse.
So here is the sum up for all Newbies like myself:
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The Hitchiker's Guide to understanding SPL on Athena
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1) SPL = second stage bootloader
2) Athena 7500 is originally shipped with SPL 1.2
3) Athena 7510 is originally shipped with SPL 3.5
4) for different firmware to be loaded, one need a hacked SPL, that allows flashing unsigned firmware
5) There is a modified SPL 3.5 for the Athena 7500 that allows WM6.x firmware, ported from the Athena 7510 to run on the 7500
6) SPL 1.2 and 3.5 are incompatible, regarding firmware, due to the different amount of memory reserved for the ROM. A SPL 1.2 firmware won't run on SPL 3.5 and the other way around, neither. Trying to do so, will make the black screen or reset loop happen.
7) to get SPL 1.2 Olipro (the hacked one), you need to do the UNLOCKER procedure (search sticky)
8) to get SPL 3.5 Olipro, you need to install AP 4.0 (it's a WM6.1 firmware, that installs the SPL 3.5 Olipro as well)
9) to be able to install SPL 1.2 compatible firmware again, you need to follow the DOWNGRADER procedure (search sticky)
10) if you want to have, for warranty issues, the original SPL 1.2 back, you need to install an official dump. I am not 100% sure about this one...
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I hope my statements are correct. If not, please let me know, so this post can act as a beginners first read. Currently I have to confess, that it is quite confusing to understand these 10 points... And I am already familiar with modding the BA, Universal, HP 514, VDA GPS, etc.
Thanks,
vma
PS: Yes, I ask silly questions, but still I try to bring something back...
vma said:
2) Athena 7500 is originally shipped with SPL 1.2
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No, X7500 original is SPL 1.1
Is there a way to go back from i.e. SPL 1.2olipro to official SPL?
Thanks,
vma