So I looked around and couldn't seem to find the answer to this anywhere.
Why exactly do you have to Hard-Reset after flashing a new ROM? (When the screen calibration comes up) I have almost never Hard-Reset after flashing and I haven't had any troubles what-so-ever, so why is it recommended? I certainly haven't seen any improvement the few times I did Hard-Reset. Is this a ticking time bomb to not do it, or is it just more likely that something will go wrong if you don't Hard-Reset? Is there some underlying damage I'm doing to my phone? To me it seems like it works fine without a Hard-Reset, why spend the extra time?
Any insight?
-Hobadee
Hobadee said:
So I looked around and couldn't seem to find the answer to this anywhere.
Why exactly do you have to Hard-Reset after flashing a new ROM? (When the screen calibration comes up) I have almost never Hard-Reset after flashing and I haven't had any troubles what-so-ever, so why is it recommended? I certainly haven't seen any improvement the few times I did Hard-Reset. Is this a ticking time bomb to not do it, or is it just more likely that something will go wrong if you don't Hard-Reset? Is there some underlying damage I'm doing to my phone? To me it seems like it works fine without a Hard-Reset, why spend the extra time?
Any insight?
-Hobadee
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i think you might find your answer if you read this post #25).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008&page=3
hope it helped you
When you flash a stock rom with the HTC ruu, it automatically does the hard reset for you. The hacked, custom ruu's skip the hard reset (so you can flash a radio or splash w/o the hard reset). I couldn't tell you why thr hard reset is necessary, but if HTC seems to think it's important, then that's good enough for me.
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i think you might find your answer if you read this post #25).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008&page=3
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Perfect, thanks! Sorry I couldn't find it with search. :-/
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Perfect, thanks! Sorry I couldn't find it with search. :-/
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Meh..
1200+ posts. Enjoy reading. Maybe I am lazy. I always leave SIM and SD in and rarely HR after flash. You can always hard reset (free, no charge)
When you are flashing more than once a week, and better yet, cooking a new rom more than once a week, you won't bother reading drivel (you won't have time).
You'll get your own feel for the need for another HR after flash. Pattern-seeking is basic human nature. You'll figure it out
Hobadee said:
So I looked around and couldn't seem to find the answer to this anywhere.
Why exactly do you have to Hard-Reset after flashing a new ROM? (When the screen calibration comes up) I have almost never Hard-Reset after flashing and I haven't had any troubles what-so-ever, so why is it recommended? I certainly haven't seen any improvement the few times I did Hard-Reset. Is this a ticking time bomb to not do it, or is it just more likely that something will go wrong if you don't Hard-Reset? Is there some underlying damage I'm doing to my phone? To me it seems like it works fine without a Hard-Reset, why spend the extra time?
Any insight?
-Hobadee
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You want to reset after install because it helps clear any left over data and the rom will load from phone and not activesync. The best way to do it is to install the rom from sd card then reset. This helps make sure you get a good flash. I havent had a bad flash in along time but it does happen.
Always perform a Hard Reset after every flash.
AFAIK, you do need to reset between ROM flashes; the loader and Custom RUU were changed to allow for flashing of Radio, ROM, and Splash - so not all areas are reformatted during flash. Most chefs perform the Hard Reset when the Stylus Calibration appears - I used to personally wait until TF3D so as to ensure that all post-reset processing has completed successfully.
For a while, I was skipping the Hard Reset ... then I spent 30 mins trying to figure out why files were was missing from Application Data, Content, and Music. As a rule, I now perform these steps:
SD Card ROM Flash
Hold Volume Down & Action
Push Reset
Perform reset phase & wait for completion
Press Volume Up
Hold Volume Down (enter bootloader)
ActiveSync (cradle):
Similar steps can be performed while connected via ActiveSync (cradle):
Power Off Phone
Hold Volume Down & Action & Reset
Power On Phone
Perform reset phase & wait for completion
Press Volume Up
Hold Volume Down (enter bootloader)
USB connects, launch Custom RUU
Reference
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3673222&postcount=790
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3966093&postcount=7
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AFAIK, you do need to reset between ROM flashes ...
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I never hard reset, unless I experience some major weirdness and I (almost) never have any issues. Sometimes I have issues when I switch from lets say EnergyROM to NATF's but really rare.
I never reset any other devices I flash (I have flashed so many different types of phones, routers, ipods and so many other different devices.)
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I thought you hard reset after the flash?
DJGonzo said:
I never hard reset, unless I experience some major weirdness and I (almost) never have any issues. Sometimes I have issues when I switch from lets say EnergyROM to NATF's but really rare.
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Few things to keep in mind: frequency of ROM flashes (i do many while chef'ing), ROM size (going from larger to smaller can cause unpredictable results), device non-volatile settings (the area of the device that contains altered settings such as registry, file additions/removals, etc.).
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I never reset any other devices I flash (I have flashed so many different types of phones, routers, ipods and so many other different devices.)
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Some devices operate differently. From my 25+ years experience in the business, I've run into several issues where a factory (hard) reset cleared up the problems experienced post-firmware update. I've even had situations where uploading the backed up configuration would cause the device to halt/crash.
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I thought you hard reset after the flash?
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In the very beginning, I used to Hard Reset twice, once before a flash and then once after a flash. Noonski posted a more efficient method which eliminated one of the Hard Reset and ensured that the device always functioned as anticipated. See steps and thread noted above that contains Noonski's observation.
I've been using the noted methods above since then and have never run into issues as I had before.
I hard reset twice, too. The first one is so quick, there's no good reason not to-it may help the flash go properly as well. I don't hit volume up, though. When the reset is done, I just go straight to bootloader and flash from my card. Then I do the second one at the tap here screen.
Still, sometimes funky things happen in customization. I always remove the sim card, but occasionally instead of getting a soft reset after customization, the stupid dialer will pop up, as well as the 'customization will start in 3 seconds' pop-up. Then the phone freezes. This happened a couple days ago to me, and voice command and gscroll wouldn't work. A 3d hard reset got me going, lol.
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Hi experts...
Well, I have just recently upgraded to WM2003SE with ZeroXtreme modified ROM. Lately, while I was using my xda 2, probably it process pretty much heavy task and got hang. I did a soft the first time, it was somehow froze at the splash screen. Thought I waited longer than the usual time it'd load to windows, impatiently I soft reset the second time.
Surprisingly It proceeded to the align window which was actually done by hard reset. I was still puzzled even now, wonder whether it does happen like with the upgrade or just on my machine.
However, before this happen, I did somehow accidentally got my xda 2 knock against the ground quite lightly and a little scratch was on my baby's... Not sure if that was part of the cause of the auto-hard reset?
After reinstalling all applications back, I did some trial and error to test if it reoccur by soft resetting a few times and pressing multiple buttons simultaneously or any other way that I could think of to test out.
And so far it didn't auto-hard reset again. But, sometimes, if I soft reset it, it'd froze at the 2nd splash screen (the first splash screen where it displays the rom version,etc for short). Hence, i need to soft-reset it another time to get back working.
Experts please give advise or anyone experience the same occurence please do share. thanks.
Hi buddy,
The hang/delay while soft reset seems to be a common problem for 2.06 ROM. I have the same problem as well. Someone suggested the XCPUScaler could help a bit and it does....well, not totally. Sin from Australia suggested a merge of 2.02t and 2.06 ROMs can resolve the problem. I haven't try it yet but if you would like to give it a go, do a search in the Forum.
Have a great Christmas!
Cheers!
Check the DB_notify_queue database as it might contain lots of records ... use CheckNotify to clear it as the clearnotify.exe fix doesn't
P.S: it shouldn't contain more than 20 records in average
Biso007 said:
Check the DB_notify_queue database as it might contain lots of records ... use CheckNotify to clear it as the clearnotify.exe fix doesn't
P.S: it shouldn't contain more than 20 records in average
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Hi!
I use CheckNotify and check that they were 21 records. I guess it's normal then, since you said it shouldn't be more than 20 records. So, do you think I should still run the "clearfix.exe"?
I was just puzzled, how on earth that it could hard-reset by itself, when I was expecting a soft-reset on the machine.
I tried to recollect how was it possible to happen, and I thought it could be due to the one time that it slipped off my hand and knock on the ground lightly while I was trying to snap a picture that's closed to the floor. Other than these, I'm not too sure what's the cause could be, cause it might be too technical for me to discover :?
I think this is the problem of using non-official rom, especially main one. I have similar problem but not that serious. This is our trade off as no one force us to flash our rom.
Sometime I think it might be hardware problem too, as my wife is using 1.66WWE (I did not flash her machine), it sometimes hard reset automatically too... Also, everything change sim card - even if the 2nd battery is full, it still lost all the data.
Might be the machine is too complicated or might be this is a common feature of all the windows products.
I have searched this and could not come up with any fixes, but here goes.
On my 8525 most of my front buttons would quite working (Send, End, OK, Start Menu, and Both Top Menu select buttons) on every Cingular 2.06 Rom. This would be a daily thing that could be fixed by a soft reset. Then I upgraded to XDA Live 2.0 everything worked great for a while when all of a sudden all of the front buttons stopped working, all of them except the dpad. I did a soft reset and even a hard reset, and every time it would still not be working. I freaked out the only thing I could think to do is to downgrade to the original Rom 1.34 that was on it when I received it so I could try to send it in for warranty. After the downgrade all the buttons have been working now.
So in my mind I am thinking this is a software issue rather than a hardware problem. But if that is the case what would cause this? Is there any kind of fix?
I really want to put WM6 back on my device, but not at the cost of my hardware buttons.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Aww cmon nobody has anything to say and nobody has ever run into this? Should I just try to reupgrade with different radio and BL. Would the BL or the Radio have any remote relation to this problem?
Need your help here GuRu's.
Never heard of this problem before. There is a fix for the 8525 keyboard in the XDA Live extras, but I'm almost certain it doesn't affect the front buttons.
I'd almost say that its a problem physically with a broken/barely connected button membrane or something similar.. and the action of you moving the phone to reset it/pressing the button is enough to connect it again.
If you're sure its working 100% now, try flashing XDA Live again and seeing if it kills it again!
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Aww cmon nobody has anything to say and nobody has ever run into this? Should I just try to reupgrade with different radio and BL. Would the BL or the Radio have any remote relation to this problem?
Need your help here GuRu's.
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Just a couple ideas. First, what 3rd party apps have you installed after upgrading and have you changed anything in the "softkey" program? Also, when you said you did a hard reset, was it a real hard reset, or just a power down? Some people at first get the two mixed up.
Also, the radio and bl wouldn't have anything to do with a problem like this.
Like TAURUSBulba said, I would think that it HAS to do with some cab/registry or executable you install that is common to all the ROMS that makes it do this. I would suggest you check out your installed applications and research what might create this problem.
The Rest was an actual "hard reset" with nothing else installed on phone except for system files (fresh system). I did not think the BL or Radio would have anything to do with it, I just wanted to be sure. I will try to re-upgrade to XDA Live 2.0 again when I can find some extra time. I will post results if anything changes or I continue to keep having this problem.
I appreciate your feedback.
Thank You
I did a hard reset on my phone after installing too much stuff, trying to make things run better. After i did the hard reset my phone reboots all ok, but then after that anytime i turn it off and back on i get a message that says cprog.exe and then after that message my touchflo3d wont work at all and i also cant access my contacts at all. how can i fix this? i tried another hard reset but it did the same thing.
I have had the same thing happening to me. I have tried everything, new ROMs, registry settings, completely hard reseting and putting everything as default. I am going to return mine and get a replacement it has to be a hardware issue
rujelus22 said:
I have had the same thing happening to me. I have tried everything, new ROMs, registry settings, completely hard reseting and putting everything as default. I am going to return mine and get a replacement it has to be a hardware issue
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yo0123yo said:
I did a hard reset on my phone after installing too much stuff, trying to make things run better. After i did the hard reset my phone reboots all ok, but then after that anytime i turn it off and back on i get a message that says cprog.exe and then after that message my touchflo3d wont work at all and i also cant access my contacts at all. how can i fix this? i tried another hard reset but it did the same thing.
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Yup, that happaned to me once. I just hard reset again and it was fine. Happaned one time in about 30 hard resets since ownership since last week. It actually did it on my own custom ROM which was the wierdest part. I woudl liek to say its the hardware but I dont see how? Strange issue.
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Yup, that happaned to me once. I just hard reset again and it was fine. Happaned one time in about 30 hard resets since ownership since last week. It actually did it on my own custom ROM which was the wierdest part. I woudl liek to say its the hardware but I dont see how? Strange issue.
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LOL, so ironic considering I just started receiving this error this morning. I'm not hard resetting and it's been pissing me off. So instead I went ahead and turned off Error reporting, thus basically told the phone to pound sand.
Hi,
MY Touch HD has developped this problem and I can't use it at present. I only just upgraded to the new ROM, as directed by HTC, who now suggest a hard reset - which I am loathe to do as have just re-installed all my apps, contacts etc. Can I replace the obviously corrupt cprog.exe file with a working one? Where would I get one if so . .!?
Disappointed with HTC for the support on this.
i just replace the pim.vol file and it works, i'm using touch pro 2. sad to say that, i just got my phone about 1 week, and i found alot of problem with its rom and software.
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Hi,
MY Touch HD has developped this problem and I can't use it at present. I only just upgraded to the new ROM, as directed by HTC, who now suggest a hard reset - which I am loathe to do as have just re-installed all my apps, contacts etc. Can I replace the obviously corrupt cprog.exe file with a working one? Where would I get one if so . .!?
Disappointed with HTC for the support on this.
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cprog.exe might not be as simple to replace since I believe that this is cooked into the roms. Hard reset is normally the best medicine...
OK i am extremely frustrated with this. i have tried two different ROMs (the latest NFSFANS rom and an Energy ROM)and took hours to get them set up exactly as i needed then i would eventually soft reset the phone to make sure all is well....using either the button or a software reset button. then it completely starts over just as if i had barely flashed the rom, therefor i lose EVERYTHING i set up...all software and emails etc. hours of work multiple times...why in the hell is it doing that. i am only doing a soft reset. i have had many other HTC phones and the reset button never does this. seriously i am about to FU*@ break this phone...too many hours lost
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OK i am extremely frustrated with this. i have tried two different ROMs (the latest NFSFANS rom and an Energy ROM)and took hours to get them set up exactly as i needed then i would eventually soft reset the phone to make sure all is well....using either the button or a software reset button. then it completely starts over just as if i had barely flashed the rom, therefor i lose EVERYTHING i set up...all software and emails etc. hours of work multiple times...why in the hell is it doing that. i am only doing a soft reset. i have had many other HTC phones and the reset button never does this. seriously i am about to FU*@ break this phone...too many hours lost
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When this happens, and it does from time to time when flashing different ROM's. All you need to do is flash a stock ROM to it, hard reset it, then flash the ROM of your choice, hard reset it and you should be all set. I flash back to stock, like every 5 ROM upgrades just to clear out the old cob webs or what ever causes this.
I hope this helps.
thanks a ton
i was able to find a stock sprint rom...flashed it then flash another custom rom. everything seems to be going good. hopefully the problem is gone. it was just bad timing that this was hapening...i left for a overseas trip just after i posted the problem.
Hey guys!
The other day, I picked up an Atrix, mainly to use as an mp3 player so my S3's battery wouldn't drain as much during the day.
So, I took the steps any good android-user would go through. I unlocked the bootloader, rooted, and had Clockworkmod all set up.
This is within 30 minutes of having the phone. During the first while of tinkering with it, I noticed some strange things. There's really too many to list, but I'll try.
The phone at times is completely unresponsive. At seemingly random intervals, the Atrix would freeze, and randomly start selecting things.
For example, whilst using the keyboard, it would stream out random lines of text, like yyyyzzyyzyyzyyzyyyxyyxyyzy. Thinking that it was just a fluke with the rom , I carried on.
Often, the only time I can accurately and reliably select something is immediately after turning the screen off and back on again. And sometimes, that doesn't work either.
Also, there seems to be a 4-5 second latency from pressing the screen, to the device registering it.
Again, at random intervals, the image displayed on the screen begins to shake, and becomes unresponsive. I really wish I could record it happening.
There's also a host of other problems. The wifi hasn't ever worked, and the phone flat out refuses to flash some gapps packages.
So, my Atrix is basically a non-functioning, shivering, nightmare of a phone to work with. None of these issues have been caused by flashing different roms, and I have never touched any of the sbf files.
No matter what I try, it is just unusable. Every thing I have tried has failed, and this phone is out of warranty, so replacement is out of the question. So, is there anything I can do to fix this issue? I really, really need help.
Thanks in advance guys!!
I think we need to know what ROM (ROMS?) you are using. Is the bug recurrent? Have you thoroughly wiped cache, dalvik and did a factory reset before flashing? Are you sure you are flashing the proper Google apps for the ROM you are trying to use? And finally, are you sure your bootloader is unlocked? Does it say unlocked when booting and can you get to clockwork mod?
Those problems might be hardware, but I've experienced some of them myself from bad flashes, or corrupt pds partition, so software is far more likely. Give a little more info and I'll try to help.
Also, does Bluetooth work?
And what do you mean " refuses to flash"? What happens?
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I think we need to know what ROM (ROMS?) you are using. Is the bug recurrent? Have you thoroughly wiped cache, dalvik and did a factory reset before flashing? Are you sure you are flashing the proper Google apps for the ROM you are trying to use? And finally, are you sure your bootloader is unlocked? Does it say unlocked when booting and can you get to clockwork mod?
Those problems might be hardware, but I've experienced some of them myself from bad flashes, or corrupt pds partition, so software is far more likely. Give a little more info and I'll try to help.
Also, does Bluetooth work?
And what do you mean " refuses to flash"? What happens?
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Hey! Well, I started on the stock ota 2.3.6
Yes, the bootloader is unlocked, cwm is the recovery, and I can get into it. Before flashing, I did wipe dalvik, cache, and factory reset.
The roms I've installed are in this order:
Stock ota 2.3.6, Cyanogenmod 7 2013/1/1 nightly, TopSmart's final release 1.3 rom, and AOKP 4.1.2 from October 17.
The roms flash just fine,and I always use the correct gapps. The problems have persisted through everything I have tried.
Bluetooth does not work, and neither does anything that requires a radio. (Data, calls, wifi, etc)
Is this a new or used atrix. if it was bought used perhaps has a hardware problem that the seller neglected to tell you about
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Is this a new or used atrix. if it was bought used perhaps has a hardware problem that the seller neglected to tell you about
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I got it used, but it was still in the box, and even had the plastic screen that says "Don't text and drive" on it. The phone had literally never been booted up.
I think I figured out the problem, and will try to post a video of it.
The touchscreen just freaks out when being used. I found this out through the pointer location in the dev tools in Cyanogenmod 7
I'm on cm10 and random touches happen to me. I just lock and unlock the screen to fix. Only happens to me on cyanogen roms.
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Could it be a foreign phone? that would explain the radio not working. The screen breaking and ghost touches sound like the leaked rom/kernel, was it happening with all the roms you installed?